Winnipeggers score drugs through secret Facebook messages

[Chip (OP)]

source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeggers-score-drugs-through-secret-facebook-messages-1.3847611

Winnipeggers score drugs through secret Facebook messages

Hiding in plain sight, selling everything from fentanyl to crystal meth, no fear of being busted



Winnipeg's drug scene is using secret group conversations via Facebook's Messenger app to score everything from potentially lethal fentanyl to crack cocaine, CBC News has learned.

"It's all there, hiding in plain sight," said one participant CBC News agreed not to identify. "Deals are being made day and night, all over the city."

CBC News took an inside look into two group Messenger conversations titled "Wpg drug mart" and "ChOp ShOp."

They're accessible by invitation only and only through a Facebook account. But once inside, members enter an online marketplace where they post messages to buy and sell whatever drugs they can get.

Even fentanyl — suspected in the fatal overdoses of at least four Winnipeggers this fall — is sold.

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Its deadly reputation is no deterrent and its lethal strength is billed as a selling point, including in this message: "fentanyl Powder really potent just got the pure package today! HMU (hit me up) for your needs."

There were also messages for morphine: "200 mgs morph (morphine)," xanax, "green bars, text or hmu," ecstasy and marijuana, "Mollys, kush, hmu for deals.....delivery city wide."

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Stolen goods are also for sale and there's something for almost everyone: Samsung phones, Gucci purses, brass knuckles and even baby formula.

In most cases, a single click on the Messenger's profile image sent one directly to that person's Facebook profile. In some cases, members even posted their cellphone numbers.

"No one worries about being caught," the participant told CBC News. "I don't think the police even know about it."

A Winnipeg police spokesman told CBC News they are aware these sites exist, but confirmed they've not made any arrests in relation to them.

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[Jega]

That's just funny.

[Chip (OP)]

It's also stupid considering that Facebook would, without doubt, archive your chat/messenger data.

If you're wondering if I archive database backups  (read: everything) off site ? You bet I do.

[Z]

I wonder if online ting like that would be enough to convict someone?  It could be boasting and just saying something doesnt make it true.

My guess is that the real risk here is putting yourself on the oinkers radar.  If they are convinced that you sell fentanyl because of dumb posts like this, then it becomes very worth their while to pursue you i a traditional police work way. Im goi g to assume the genius postung on facebook isnt on top of his opsec either.  Criminal theory of evolution in effect.

[Jega]

If you can prove who it is that is sending the messages which an IP would do, it's absolutely grounds for a search warrant. That's probable cause.

[adamn1t]

Sooooooo...............................................................................can i get an invite? Jk. Doesnt surprise me though. Users are some resourceful people who do a lot of networking.

[Tainted]

It's also stupid considering that Facebook would, without doubt, archive your chat/messenger data.

If you're wondering if I archive database backups  (read: everything) off site ? You bet I do.

Fb recently added "secret conversation" that use Signal/open whisper systems encryption. I'm guessing they're using that. Personally I don't trust fb as Signal is open source, but nothing is stopping fb from putting a back door in.

iirc I think it was dizzle who told me about Signal. I've managed to get all my friends and half my dealer's to use it.

[Wildcat]

If you can prove who it is that is sending the messages which an IP would do, it's absolutely grounds for a search warrant. That's probable cause.
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@Jega
But what if they're using VPN, etc. ?

[Jega]

Tor would be a good move, yeah.

If they went after the records from someones ISP and they used Tor they may not be able to identify you.