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Can you communicate independently or are you completely dependent on a "service" provider?

If an emergency happened and internet / cellphones were turned off, would you still be able to communicate with your family members and coordinate their safety?

This will not be used to help you, it will be used against you.

Quote The US Government Has an Internet Killswitch — and It’s None of Your Business
The Supreme Court has refused to hear a petition concerning the Department of Homeland Security’s secretive internet and cellphone killswitch program.

United States — On Monday the Supreme Court declined to hear a petition from the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) that sought to force the Department of Homeland Security to release details of a secret “killswitch” protocol to shut down cellphone and internet service during emergencies.

EPIC has been fighting since 2011 to release the details of the program, which is known as Standard Operating Procedure 303. EPIC writes, “On March 9, 2006, the National Communications System (‘NCS’) approved SOP 303, however it was never released to the public. This secret document codifies a ‘shutdown and restoration process for use by commercial and private wireless networks during national crisis.’”EPIC continues, “In a 2006-2007 Report, the President’s National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (‘NSTAC’) indicated that SOP 303 would be implemented under the coordination of the National Coordinating Center (‘NCC’) of the NSTAC, while the decision to shut down service would be made by state Homeland Security Advisors or individuals at DHS. The report indicates that NCC will determine if a shutdown is necessary based on a ‘series of questions.’”

Despite EPIC’s defeat at the hands of the Supreme Court, the four-year court battle yielded a heavily redacted copy of Standard Operating Procedure 303.

The fight for transparency regarding SOP 303 began shortly after a Bay Area Rapid Transit (“BART”) officer in San Francisco shot and killed a homeless man named Charles Hill on July 3, 2011. The shooting sparked massive protests against BART throughout July and August 2011. During one of these protests, BART officials cut off cell phone service inside four transit stations for three hours. This kept anyone on the station platform from sending or receiving phone calls, messages, or other data.

In July 2012, EPIC submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the DHS seeking the full text of Standard Operating Procedure 303; the full text of the predetermined “series of questions” that determines if a shutdown is necessary; and any executing protocols related to the implementation of Standard Operating Procedure 303, distributed to DHS, other federal agencies, or private companies.

After the DHS fought the FOIA releases, a district court in Washington, D.C. ruled in EPIC’s favor, but that ruling was later overturned by the court of appeals. The appeals court told EPIC the government was free to withhold details of the plan under the Freedom of Information Act because the information might “endanger” the public. In 2015, the digital rights group asked the Supreme Court to review the ruling by the federal appeals court.

With the Supreme Court’s refusal to address EPIC’s petition, the issue seems to have reached a dead-end. The American people are (once again) left in the dark regarding the inner-workings of another dangerous and intrusive government program. It is only through the hard work of activists and groups like EPIC that we are at least aware of the existence of this program — but knowing bits and pieces about the protocol is not enough. In order to combat such heavy-handed measures, we need to have access to the government’s own documents. Hopefully, there is already a whistleblower preparing to release these details.

What we do with the information we do have is up to each of us as individuals. We can sit back and watch the United States further devolve into a militarized police and surveillance state — or we can spread this information, get involved locally, and create new systems outside of the current paradigm of control and exploitation.
http://theantimedia.org/the-us-gover...your-business/




Cell phones are ubiquitous and are the best vehicle for overcoming this "kill switch" but you need to be proactive; you can also set up mesh networks in your neighborhood for "small scale internet".




Source:



Big at SXSW: FireChat Bypass Cellular and WiFi Networks
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/sxsw-brea...578160814.html
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Quote The Serval Mesh
ur software:
* Is completely open and open-source; free for all
* Can be carried and activated in seconds by those who need it when it is needed
* Is carrier independent
* Can be installed during an emergency from only one phone
* Is distributed nature makes network resilient
* Can use your existing phone number
* Encrypts mesh phone calls and mesh text messages by default
* Can distribute pictures, videos and any other files

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...lproject&hl=en

**and more info from the Washington times.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/13/homeland-security-must-disclose-internet-kill-swit/
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I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."
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The same exists for gps/glonass and the euro version.  The military has said many times that they can shut down the satellites from benefitting anyone but the military if they want/need to.  I would assume that they are also able to change the timing signal to give wildly inaccurate results.  This comes from the gps guided weapons being produced and used by foreign militaries.  They need to be able to shut them off to deny capability to foreign militaries.


I also saw a crazy article showing the lossless taps that the NSA is using to read everything going through certain internet backbone points.  This lets them read and save everything.  EVERYTHING.  If it's encrypted they can save it and then take their time to crack it.  The whole thing sounds paranoid, but it is the well documented reality.  If those taps were set up in a way to remotely move the prisms even a millimeter then the internet could be kiled at a moments notice.  The prisms are basically to reflect the light and copy the signal between two outputs in as lossless of a manner as they possibly could. They resemble the pentaprisms in SLR and DSLR cameras.

For the dorks like myself out there, it looks like this:


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You guys hear about this? Oy vey.

Quote Propaganda Games: Sesame Credit - The True Danger of Gamification - Extra Credits

China has gamified being an obedient citizen with the creation of Sesame Credit. The game links to your social network and gives you a score for doing things that the government approves of, but it also reduces that score for doing things the government disapproves of. Even your friends' scores affect your own, and being friends with people who have a low score will drag your score down as well. This insidious system applies social pressure on people to ostracize their friends with lower scores, either forcing those friends to change their ways or effectively quarantining their rebellious ideas. While many sci-fi visions of a dystopian future have centered around a bleak government that controls through fear, Sesame Credit shows us that a government can use gamification and positive reinforcement to be just as controlling. And it's real. While currently the system is opt-in, the government plans to make it mandatory in 2020. Once mandatory, it may give rewards for good scores or penalties for bad ones. And in the meantime, making it opt-in has already set the tone for the game: people participate willingly, so they find it fun, and they set a very high standard for what the "average" score should be. Already people have begun sharing their scores on social media.


Here's more info...
China To Use Big Data To Rate Citizens In New 'Social Credit System'

http://www.ibtimes.com/china-use-big-data-rate-citizens-new-social-credit-system-1898711


How good a citizen are you? China hopes to answer that question for every one of its citizens with a numerical rating system based on their financial standing, criminal record and social media behavior. A new translation of the government’s plans for a so-called social credit system sheds light on how China aims to utilize "Big Data" to hold all citizens accountable for financial decisions as well as moral choices.

China’s plans to roll out a citizen rating system has been in the works for years. Rogier Creemers, a China expert at Oxford University, recently published a translation of a document circulated through various levels of government detailing the six-year rollout of the program. According to a State Council notice, the central government hopes to have every adult in China assigned a credit code in addition to a government-issued identity card by 2020.

“Accelerating the construction of a social credit system is an important basis for comprehensively implementing the scientific development view and building a harmonious Socialist society,” the memo reads, adding that it has “important significance for strengthening the sincerity consciousness of the members of society.” The "guiding ideology," the name of a subsection in the memo, states that a key principle of the system is "government promotion."

While using financial, Internet and other data to evaluate individuals is not a new phenomenon, China will likely be the first nation to do it publicly and have the systematization and rationalization for doing so down to a numerical index. In an interview with Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant, Creemers draws similarities to the former East German system but says the Chinese are taking it even further.

“The German aim was limited to avoiding a revolt against the regime. The Chinese aim is far more ambitious: It is clearly an attempt to create a new citizen,” Creemers said in the interview, explaining that the program will incentivize specific behavior. “This is a deliberate effort by the Chinese government to promote among citizens ‘socialist core values’ such as patriotism, respecting the elderly, working hard and avoiding extravagant consumption.”

In a more modern context, a closer comparison could be made with the U.S. National Security Agency's alleged data-mining project PRISM, which former CIA contractor Edward Snowden revealed as government access to user data at the country’s biggest tech firms like Google, Apple and Facebook. Whereas Silicon Valley execs denied knowledge of the data-mining scheme and said that if user information was being collected, it was without the companies’ knowledge, China wants its citizens to know they are being watched and that their standing in society will be affected by their behavior.

Unlike in the West, in China, cooperation between tech firms and the government is “symbiotic,” according to Creemer, and will likely continue when it comes to implementing the Social Credit System. “Government and big Internet companies in China can exploit ‘Big Data’ together in a way that is unimaginable in the West,” he said.

In fact, according to de Volkskrant, Ant Financial, one of Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba’s subsidiaries, recently began its own rating system based on the spending habits of users of the popular Alipay service, which rates a person's credit on a scale of 350 to 950. Scores are based not only on a user's lending and spending numbers but also on what the money is going toward.

“If friends have a poor lending reputation, this reflects badly on the person, just as prolonged playing of video games,” the report explains. “Buying diapers indicates responsibility and scores therefore well.”

“It certainly feels about as Orwellian as your nightmares would have it be,” Michael Fertik, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and author of "The Reputation Economy," told de Volkskrant. “It's exactly what any Command state would like to do with data


And more info from the BBC:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-34592186

Gamifying civil obedience is just the beginning. What if you were to bring the welfare system and a cashless society into the equation, or perhaps your browsing history?

Quote The Chinese authorities are watching the pilot process very carefully. The government system won't be exactly the same as the private systems, but government officials are certainly taking cues from the algorithms developed under the private projects.
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I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."
"I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking."
"Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
"Shut up! Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control."-BH

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I thank dog every day that I don't have LifeInvader, I personally am appalled by the number of people that are on there and put all their shit out there for the world to see, companies to mine, government to track, I still use adblock, disconnect content filter, noscript, profile spoofer, private browsing, clear history upon exit, wipe cookies, VPN (cyberghost!) and finally disconnect search EVERY SINGLE TIME I use the internet.



I can't believe the bread crumbs people leave on the internet. I really can't. What's more, it's become SO commonplace for people to have all that social media bullshit, and running their browser in "retard mode" (my term for not using the things I mentioned above) that it actually puts a target on the backs of those that value their privacy. I read somewhere that NOT having a LifeInvader profile is suspicious, jesus. I mean, seriously because I don't want to tell all my long lost friends every time I take a dump and show them pictures of my cat, THAT MAKES ME SUSPICIOUS. Fuck that noise man.
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What's life invader? I just googled it and it looks like a Facebook thing. Same? Or is it any different?

Yeah when I tell people I dont do Facebook, I get looks like I'm hiding something. Lol. Yeah duh.
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I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."
"I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking."
"Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
"Shut up! Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control."-BH

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Life Invader is a name for a facebook parody in a video game.  Dizzle means facebook.  They're scary man.  Their  whole business is correlating everything about you to sell a full profile to ad networks.  Even worse, they retain full rights to everything you post, and retain the right to sell your information to whoever they want without your explicit consent.  That includes pictures that are uploaded.  In theory they could sell your photos to a company to use in a worldwide ad campaign, and you would neither get paid or have a say in it.  Just uploading something to their servers means you relinquish the rights to it.


Scary shit.


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all my internet traffic is 4096bit encrypted with a key that changes once an hour ( can set it to change more or less often)  just bitching about the nsa isnt going to do anything, i suggest you protect yourself, starting today
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all my internet traffic is 4096bit encrypted with a key that changes once an hour ( can set it to change more or less often)  just bitching about the nsa isnt going to do anything, i suggest you protect yourself, starting today


40, I aint "bitching" about this, I'm just posting a few good reports on topics that affect us all and that some of us may not know about. We all have personal responsibility yet we also have rights. If you don't know your rights, then you won't know when they are being trampled on.


Life Invader is a name for a facebook parody in a video game.  Dizzle means facebook.  They're scary man.  Their  whole business is correlating everything about you to sell a full profile to ad networks.  Even worse, they retain full rights to everything you post, and retain the right to sell your information to whoever they want without your explicit consent.  That includes pictures that are uploaded.  In theory they could sell your photos to a company to use in a worldwide ad campaign, and you would neither get paid or have a say in it.  Just uploading something to their servers means you relinquish the rights to it.


Scary shit


Duh, I should know that. Lol. Considering I'm sitting next to someone playing it very often. I guess i really am good at ignoring people :)
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I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."
"I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking."
"Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
"Shut up! Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control."-BH

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Im not a computer person at all. Have been helped out by Chipper & others many many times. And I use free wifi. BUT, i do *nothing* on my phone i can't easily give an answer for. Never had FB & though my daughter used to roll her eyes, she stopped when i pointed out that when she joined FB in *middle school* and put her name, DOB & friends, anyone who wants to now knows who she is, where she prolly lived (cuz of school) etc.

She's gotten a LOT more cautious now, but yepper, its out there now for good. I also wondered about the "newish" now Plenti rewards thing--they link Macy's, gas stations, pharmacies etc. Mind-boggling the $$$ being made by these data miners just so I can save .50 AND the loss of anything close to privacy. If i want a store's discount card i give a fake name, email & boom i get the "discount". 

I always wondered how much control the govt had over the Net--the kill switch thing sadly, doesn't surprise me now that its been brought out. Felt the same about the NSA spying on other governments.  Scary & sad that it's been happening for a decade though!

I wonder if antimedia (or whoever) were to start an online petition protest (akin to Occupy & other grassroots  efforts) if it might stand a chance of being picked up by mainstream media??  We *are* coming up on elections & the NSA, Hilary's communications etc, are going to be brought up more I would think. Would be great if this got brought out into a BIG spotlight.

My hope (it springs eternal), is that unlike traffic cameras (or marketing companies), if folks knew the breadth of this, there'd be far less apathy.
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Im not a computer person at all. Have been helped out by Chipper & others many many times. And I use free wifi. BUT, i do *nothing* on my phone i can't easily give an answer for. Never had FB & though my daughter used to roll her eyes, she stopped when i pointed out that when she joined FB in *middle school* and put her name, DOB & friends, anyone who wants to now knows who she is, where she prolly lived (cuz of school) etc.

She's gotten a LOT more cautious now, but yepper, its out there now for good. I also wondered about the "newish" now Plenti rewards thing--they link Macy's, gas stations, pharmacies etc. Mind-boggling the $$$ being made by these data miners just so I can save .50 AND the loss of anything close to privacy. If i want a store's discount card i give a fake name, email & boom i get the "discount". 

I always wondered how much control the govt had over the Net--the kill switch thing sadly, doesn't surprise me now that its been brought out. Felt the same about the NSA spying on other governments.  Scary & sad that it's been happening for a decade though!

I wonder if antimedia (or whoever) were to start an online petition protest (akin to Occupy & other grassroots  efforts) if it might stand a chance of being picked up by mainstream media??  We *are* coming up on elections & the NSA, Hilary's communications etc, are going to be brought up more I would think. Would be great if this got brought out into a BIG spotlight.

My hope (it springs eternal), is that unlike traffic cameras (or marketing companies), if folks knew the breadth of this, there'd be far less apathy.

Unfortunately the media attention that would hurl this into the kind of spotlight it needs will never happen because all these huge companies and the media are all intertwined and own one another.
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I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."
"I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking."
"Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
"Shut up! Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control."-BH

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Re: U.S. government has an Internet kill switch and doesn't want us to know...
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2016, 03:23:06 AM »
Microchip implants for every citizen are coming soon. At first it'll be "opt-in" of course, just like this Chinese thing.

Eventually, though, it'll be required, and you'll need one to exchange money in the cashless society.

Sound familiar? Check out Revelation 13:17. I know that's the wackiest book of the Bible, but it's damn prophetic insofar as that "mark" is concerned. These sorts of things divide the shit out of people. There's those that say, "oh it'll be soooo convenient, you'll just wave your hand at the scanner..." (and you just bought your movie tickets or beer or whatever other mind-numbing balm that makes people forget they live in such a truly fucked-up society)

- and then there are those who are naturally suspicious of something that can keep track of everything you buy, look at on the internet/TV, who you talk to, and therefore basically what you're thinking through inferences made based on this information, in one central location. They don't need mind-reading technology to do that.

Be on the lookout for this stuff really soon, people. It will be lauded at first as something that will make your life so much easier and less complicated and most people will sadly buy into it. THEY DO NOT WANT TO HELP YOU.

And eventually, soon afterwards, the holdouts will be labeled as crazies and locked up, fined, ostracized and probably will have their voting rights stripped or something to completely marginalize them. Shit, maybe you'll get beheaded at mass-guillotining centers for refusing the "mark" (the microchip).

Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast - it is six hundred threescore and six. I bet that number somehow comes into play around this technology. Some way we can't imagine right now but it will come.

Serious shit indeed, folks.

(and yeah, I know, I'm completely off my rocker here. Maybe it won't happen exactly how the Bible describes it with all the crazy stuff and "signs," but if you can wade through all the fluff and bull in there, the core message is prophetic.)

TL/DR: I only hope I'll be able to head for the hills when they start requiring all citizens to get microchipped.
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Re: U.S. government has an Internet kill switch and doesn't want us to know...
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2016, 12:57:29 AM »

TL/DR: I only hope I'll be able to head for the hills when they start requiring all citizens to get microchipped.

The only people I'd ever let mark me with the Number of the Beast would be the boys from Iron Maiden.

Even then I'd have to think on it.

Run to the Hills indeed.
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