MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?

[clinton (OP)]

I still abuse mine as well.. I try to make them last but sadly no...and I get so pissed when I'm at work sweating and anxious , asking myself why my present self loves to fuck the future version of me.

I get 6 carries a week of 120 mgs and shoot a half bottle at a time in a vain attempt to keep my supply longer ..

[Chip]

i'm slowly managing to try to shoot it less and to get back to my taper ... this week has been good.

my tapering schedule keeps blowing out but thankfully my veins are trashed ... i can stop when i have no choice 

it's a form of madness because i always end up feeling crappy and suffering.

you will never taper off methadone whilst attempting to shoot it  -so - the oral route is best; it trains you to not look for the tiniest of buzzes.

[Smacky-Doodle 2.0]

Yeah I abuse my take homes.... 

My life HAS gotten much better, and although I don't lock them away and use them as intended, I still manage to stay pretty stable and I only suffer mild w/d's 2x a week.

As others have said, I've adhered to the same schedule for years....I've kind of formulated my own dosing guidelines....it just doesn't jive with what Doc would have me do.

I'll dive into some dope every once in a while, but I'm normally VERY disappointed with myself and end up regretting it for the most part.

Like I said, just because I DO abuse them....I don't go to the extreme, and MMT has greatly improved my life....just ask my SO, my  boss, and my daughters.

[Z]

Same situation here SD.  I abuse them on a regular schedule, and have actually negotiated my sleeping standing up days with the wife.  It gives me a compromise between straight sobriety, and straight junky.  I am at my most productive when I have a good dose of methadone in me.  Not too much, but definitely a fair bit more then I strictly speaking need.  A good methadone buzz gets me bizzing around doing everything quickly and efficiently.

[Chip]

i never knew there were so many of us playing with this long-acting, side-effect ridden, "heavy" synthetic/opioid

i am quite surprised ... are we Methadone addicts ?

[Smacky-Doodle 2.0]

i am quite surprised ... are we Methadone addicts ?

yes, I certainly AM.  Maybe if I had a better supply for decent, reasonably-priced smackage from a 'reliable' source.....I wouldn't fuck with it.
In my present location, $220 for a heavily pinched bag of some 50/50 shit is the going rate, UNLESS you know someone moving weight.

But for now yes, "that kind of thing definitely IS my bag, baby."

[Opus]

Heh, up until today I could say it's been months, but yesterday I fractionated off some ether and used that for a base pull, evaporated it (~15mg) on some Al foil and, erm, Boro was right, it really doesn't take much freebase methadone to get high. It tastes NASTY as fuck, but it works well.

I fucked up when I did the ether distillation and I'm sure there were some hexanes in it (it was starting fluid); and once I added the solvent after basing with literally like 5 grains of lye, there was a significant emulsion layer - pretty nasty really. So a whole bunch of nacl knocked the emulsion down quite a bit, but it was never completely gone and after 12 hrs it had a pretty thick consistency. After evaporation there were a couple red spots from the emulsion layer and they were NASTY when I vaped it, so you've been warned, get that crap out of the solvent before you evap if you do this.

I suspect the trick might be a hexane wash before basing. The ether worked like a charm for the base MD tho, although it took awhile for the mother liquor to clear up after the naoh addition, not sure if that was cos of the nacl or just time; but it certainly worked.

[Z]

Did you have to do the long and slow heating and cooling cycles to grow the grains, or they appeared relatively quickly?  That was biggest, well only really, problem that I had with boro's tek.  I could never figure out if he had acually done it himself since his directions were so horrible.

[Chip]

we are all doomed; abusing our last line of treatment

[Opus]

Did you have to do the long and slow heating and cooling cycles to grow the grains, or they appeared relatively quickly?  That was biggest, well only really, problem that I had with boro's tek.  I could never figure out if he had acually done it himself since his directions were so horrible.

No, instead of trying to filter the xtals out of the linctus, I extracted the base into ether and then evaporated it on foil.

[clinton (OP)]

Yes I'm a methadone addict ..a good shot is quite euphoric

[Opus]

K so I did it again. This time I washed the juice with an ~equal amount of hexanes, then separated the layers before proceeding like before. It made a mess! The hexane fraction is full of NASTY ASS GOO! I have no idea wtf it is.

So I was a little worried that I effed up that dose with the hexane -- I'm still not sure that I didn't, but I hit it with a little bit of lye again and it instantly went opaque like it usually does, so I added some (much cleaner this time!) ether and now I'm waiting for the aqueous layer to clear up so I can find out for sure.

I wonder WTF the goo is? It looks like straight up snot, just a nasty weird whitish-grey goopy polymer of some sort.

If it turns out there's no dope in the ether layer, I guess I know where to look..

[Opus]

Sep'd off the ether fraction this am and evaporated it very quickly over a little heat (no flames!) - this method works VERY well, I'm surprised at how high I get off such relatively small amts of MD base.

I'd call the initial hexane wash optional, I'm not sure it made a huge difference but it sure did pull a lot of crud out of the initial liquor. I noticed on the foil at the time of vaping a small yellowish trail, I suspect that was the freebase 'done. You can tell for sure you're getting a hit with this stuff cos it will numb your tongue & mouth, and shortly after that it comes on like an IV hit.

So ya, ether FTW. If people care I could write this up a little better. I don't think that using your maintenance meds like this on the regular is a fantastic idea, but I do believe in cognitive liberty and freedom of information.

One more over the bow in the war on drugs.

[Chip]

Opus, you might want to copy/rewrite your technique and place it into the Chemistry board ... your call.

[40mgtofreedom]

K so I did it again. This time I washed the juice with an ~equal amount of hexanes, then separated the layers before proceeding like before. It made a mess! The hexane fraction is full of NASTY ASS GOO! I have no idea wtf it is.

So I was a little worried that I effed up that dose with the hexane -- I'm still not sure that I didn't, but I hit it with a little bit of lye again and it instantly went opaque like it usually does, so I added some (much cleaner this time!) ether and now I'm waiting for the aqueous layer to clear up so I can find out for sure.

I wonder WTF the goo is? It looks like straight up snot, just a nasty weird whitish-grey goopy polymer of some sort.

If it turns out there's no dope in the ether layer, I guess I know where to look..

the goo and nastiness and bad taste is from the sugar that is so far impossible for me to seperate, dont believe me, put some sugar on foil and "vape" it same taste

boro was full of shit

[quzyke]

Well I lost my takehomes again after taking 3 days worth and not finding a way out of w/ds. So I called my doctor and was allowed to go pick up my missed doses but I'm back on Sundays takehome only. Ugh...

The buzz was kinda worth it though lol. 

And yeah boro was indeed full of shit, it tasted horrible and made it almost impossible to smoke the shit. The good thing is you can turn the goo back into regular drinkable methadone by adding white vinegar until the solution is clear. Tasted like crap very chemical but it did come on much stronger. I used ammonia to make the freebase methadone in solution.