Drug <> Danger Matrix

[Chip (OP)]

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[bignasty]

U got that off Wikipedia, didn't you?!?! I just saw this same chart the other day and I thought it was pretty cool since it had alcohol number 1 and harm to others was bigger than harm to yourself for alcohol.

[Chip (OP)]

Nope

[bignasty]

Where'd you get it? Maybe I saw it from a link on here but I know I just saw that same chart the other day when I was reading about Portugal and the Netherlands' drug policies.

It's crazy to think the most dangerous drug is the legal one. I know there's an argument to be had saying it's so dangerous because it's so prevalent but alcohol is just a nasty drug period in my opinion. It 'causes more damage to the body, domestic violence, violence in general, sexual assaults and sexual harassments, injuries from doing stupid shit while under the influence, moral hangovers from saying stupid shit while under the influence, etc..

When I drank heavily from 17 to about 22, I used to literally go to jail and then hospital and then jail and hospital over and over. Not at the same times, mind you. I'd get arrested for somethin stupid one month. Then, I'd end up in hospital because of something alcohol related maybe a few months later. It seemed like it'd never stop until I stopped drinking and got into opiates, benzo's and weed after I had pancreas problems from drinking and stopped drinking for a few months.

Also, it makes no sense whatsoever that amphetamines causes more harm to others than meth. Personally, I think meth should be alot higher than it is. I would personally put it second behind alcohol or maybe third behind alcohol and heroin but the only reason I'd put it behind heroin is because it's so easy to OD on heroin these days. I think meth makes folks do crazier shit to get it than heroin does, and just makes folks crazier in general while under the influence or craving.

I've seen meth heads do alot more illegal shit like stealing and shoplifting and pawning stolen shit to get their dope than a sick junky does to get their dope. It seems like a junky will eventually be like "Fuck it, I'm just gonna be sick and try to find a suboxone or some methadone or something" while a meth head usually doesn't give up until they're in jail or have their dope. That's subjective I know, but just my personal experience.

[MoeMentim]

so what is the recommended roa for butane?  seems pretty harmless.  wtf?

[bignasty]

LOL, they inhale it. I used to fuck around with a girl from South Korea in college and she told me that there weren't many drugs over there so they used to inhale butane from lighters. I never knew it was really a problem in other countries too though. Seems like it'd just say inhalants instead of butane.

[MoeMentim]

no shit?  i never heard of that.  kids these days...

[bignasty]

yep. that was about 12-14 yrs ago when she told me that so it's interesting to see that it's still going on. I imagine it's only in really strict or really poor countries with no good drugs.

[Anti-hero]

Just my 2 cents and only mine
Does any one find it strange that the drug that you get high on and can harm others is the legal one
Like smoke a joint do some shrooms heroin meth you dont want to hurt any one ya just want to get high. You might do some dumb shit when your in wds and need to get right.
Alcohol on the other hand I know more people who are instant assholes once you add alcohol.
Just like gun sales legal
War where weapons get sold to both side legal
Its like some Buildaberger shit if you can hurt others or take it and its likley you will hurt others shit is legal
mmda makes you wanna love other well your gonna rot in jail for that.
Jus my 2 cents