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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 03:01:21 PM »
Scary shit that! Great read though!
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 01:20:46 AM »
Was a pretty good read. What i thought was real interesting was the link to the article about using carfentanil as a chemical  weapon.  :o




http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/State-backed-research-into-fentanyl-and-molecules-like-it-as-potential-chemical-weapons-stretches-back-to-the-1960s/id-7e41d2d38e2740aabe17f1ed2b67df57
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 05:57:02 AM »
That was a very interesting article.

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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 06:27:01 AM »
I think it's kinda funny actually to think about them using fent as a chemical weapon. All the junkies would be invincible to "sub lethal doses for normal people"

They'd be all like "wtf!?! I'm not dopesick anymore"

Lol everyone else would be dropping like flies and the junkies  would withstand round after round....


What a retarded idea. Though using felt ripped darts soaked in fent!?. Imo it would be smarter to shoot a dart with a measured dose of fent on it and then some sort of time release naloxone molecule. Maybe a naloxone dose along with the fent? But the fent is normal and the naloxone is wrapped with a polymer coating or some type of thick substance that makes it start working in a few mins, that way the person would be up, then get shot, the fent takes hold, while the naloxone coated molecules start getting absorbed, the body finally reaches the naloxone and then puts it to work and the come back to Theor senses... all would happen within 5 mins.

Shit. You heard it here first. I call patent rights!!! U hear that u shitbag pharmaceutical companies and defense contractors making weapons??
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 07:51:12 AM »
I think it's kinda funny actually to think about them using fent as a chemical weapon. All the junkies would be invincible to "sub lethal doses for normal people"

They'd be all like "wtf!?! I'm not dopesick anymore"

Lol everyone else would be dropping like flies and the junkies  would withstand round after round....


What a retarded idea. Though using felt ripped darts soaked in fent!?. Imo it would be smarter to shoot a dart with a measured dose of fent on it and then some sort of time release naloxone molecule. Maybe a naloxone dose along with the fent? But the fent is normal and the naloxone is wrapped with a polymer coating or some type of thick substance that makes it start working in a few mins, that way the person would be up, then get shot, the fent takes hold, while the naloxone coated molecules start getting absorbed, the body finally reaches the naloxone and then puts it to work and the come back to Theor senses... all would happen within 5 mins.

Shit. You heard it here first. I call patent rights!!! U hear that u shitbag pharmaceutical companies and defense contractors making weapons??

I've often wondered about that theatre terrorist incident in Russia when the authorities used the fentanyl gas to end the situation. If your tolerance was just right, you'd be nicely buzzed while everyone around you was passing out.
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 10:16:15 AM »
I see a world where pharmaceutical warfare would kill all the non users and the junkies would be saved, left to build a new world order with new laws.

If only ...
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 11:51:36 AM »
That would be my kind of world! ;)
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 05:38:58 PM »
this was a dope article. girl looked pretty good too.
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 05:04:39 AM »
I see a world where pharmaceutical warfare would kill all the non users and the junkies would be saved, left to build a new world order with new laws.

If only ...

If only, indeed...

I'm 28, started my "drug career" about a decade ago, and just in that time alone I've noticed drugs of all types becoming more and more vague... "Acid" isn't LSD anymore, it's designer drugs/research chems, fent is sold as heroin, meth can be replaced by bath salts. Ya never know wtf you're getting these days. I would say that at least pills are safe but I've gotten ripped off that way too. Nothing is sacred/safe. :/
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 04:48:39 AM »
I haven't read the article yet, but about using drugs as weapons, I was reading random articles on wikipedia once and landed on a page about South Africia's chemical weapons program. They had several different chemical weapons stockpiled in massive numbers for like riot control and then other racist bullshit. But for riot control, they actually weaponized MDMA. I dunno what exactly it was, maybe MDMA teargas? There was a couple they had, but I can't for the life of me remember which. I think K and qualludes maybe? after the whole apartheid, the entire stockpile went missing.
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2017, 04:09:37 AM »
MDMA teargas seems pretty interesting. Pop open a canister at a rave and get everyone on one....wonder how it would be used as a weapon? Make them love everyone to diffuse the situation??
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Re: Inside the DEA: A chemist's quest to identify mystery drug
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 10:11:18 PM »
I haven't read the article yet, but about using drugs as weapons, I was reading random articles on wikipedia once and landed on a page about South Africia's chemical weapons program. They had several different chemical weapons stockpiled in massive numbers for like riot control and then other racist bullshit. But for riot control, they actually weaponized MDMA. I dunno what exactly it was, maybe MDMA teargas? There was a couple they had, but I can't for the life of me remember which. I think K and qualludes maybe? after the whole apartheid, the entire stockpile went missing.
I thought I was the only one that read random shit on wiki. What you're describing is Project Coast: "This led to the investigation of unusual non-lethal agents, including illicit recreational drugs such as phencyclidine, MDMA, methaqualone and cocaine, as well as medicinal drugs such as diazepam, ketamine, suxamethonium and tubocurarine, as potential incapacitating agents.A list of purchases at RRL and other documents include references to such things as the snake and thallium acetate, sodium cyanide, cantharides, powerful anticoagulants, phenylsilatrane, strychnine, paraquat, "knockout drops", midazolam, salmonella, organophosphates and other poisons. Other plans referenced in the UN report included crowd control with pheremones, and a discussion about developing a new, stronger analogue of methaqualone."
Wouter Basson was the scientist in charge and it was revealed that he sold large amounts of Quaaludes and MDMA on the black market.
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