Drugs Inc.

[Anti-hero]

On the philly one
They were making "scramble"
Supposedly mixing morphine and heroin together.
Big ass pile of "morphine"
Ain't no fuckin way that was morphine.

More like sleepanol

These drug reality shows wtf?
The intervention one gets me
"We told them they would appear on a documentary about drug addiction."
If some one was to tell me that.
I would be all
YEA RIGHT

I wouldn't be on T.V
For anything anyway.
Being on T.V is not something I ever want to do for any reason.

[Griffin (OP)]

Yeah I don't see how they don't realize it is intervention and they freak out when they goto the final interview. The only reason I would go on that show is if I was extremely desperate to get into a in-patient detox/rehab. Other than that is extremely dumb to go on a show that picks you a part and airs out you and your families dirty laundry for the whole world.

I think intervention pays for your rehab stay. I don't know if there is any stipulations to that like they pay part of it or just for one month. If they pay for the whole thing it would be nice to goto a expensive rehab because they cost between $15000-$50000 a month.

I don't think they work very well but as for getting clean it is nice to be in a place you can't get it where you don't have to worry about all your bills and if they give you a legit detox with comfort meds then it would be one of the easier ways to get clean.

As for their approach for the long term I think it is mostly a crock of shit that isn't very helpful. You are in a safe zone with no drugs, no bills, and no worries. They don't prepare you for the real world hardly at all. Obviously some are different but it is totally up to the person.

If they are ready to stay clean and to prepare themselves for the real world when they get there. I swear they still think that once the physical part of the withdrawal is over your good to go and it is a matter of willpower and moral strength. It is like PAWS is a completely foreign concept that they have never heard of.

If I were desperate enough to go on the show I would let my family know to not air out all the laundry, just tell the producers what they want to hear and the truth about how the addiction is affecting them. Not go into a bunch of shit from their whole life that the whole world has no business knowing about.

I would just show them what they want to see. I get high, when I don't I go into withdrawal. I don't have a lot of money so I am broke and still spend money on it and I want to get clean. Then I would probably go on a preachy rant about how the country needs to change its views and go into facts and studies about harm, reduction, needle exchanges, medication assisted treatment, Naloxone, the judicial system, and everything else that I could preach about and show studies to prove it.

[Griffin (OP)]

Did anyone watch the new episode of Drugs Inc, Aussie ice wars? It said that a half oz of meth is $7,000 in Australia. That sounds crazy to me, $220,000 for a lb. of meth. I have never bought or used meth or been around anyone who has. That just seems like it insanely overpriced especially compared to what it goes for here in the states. I always thought it was like $50-$100 a gram here but don't really knew I have always hated uppers.

Are the prices for drugs a lot higher in Australia compared to the US? I figure it varies from place to place there but after seeing that episode last night it made me wonder. How can anyone afford a habit with it being that expensive, I always thought a lot of the appeal of meth was that it was more cost efficient compared to crack because it lasted longer and was cheaper comparatively.

I know that Drugs, inc exaggerates pretty much everything especially prices but that sounds ridiculous. That sounds like how the cops price things to make them seem more dangerous or whatever. I saw a news article from Oklahoma where they busted a kid for getting weed in the mail a few weeks ago where they quoted his 8 lbs of "high grade" marijuana to cost $100,000.

Last nights episode they showed them making a drug bust and the guy threw a metal lock box out the window when they were coming through the front door. They saw him do it when outside, and it had a little bit of meth, cash, and a gun. They were very surprised to find a weapon which is the complete opposite here where they are surprised to not find a weapon.

Do the cops there usually not carry guns? It was interesting because the cops got there guns out of a safe and it seemed they didn't carry them usually. I think that is how it should be but there are probably way to many weapons here for that to be successful. Isn't that how cops do it in the U.K. no weapons? They said that they hardly ever see them or have problems with gun violence.

I don't know how I feel about gun control, on one hand I think that gun violence is completely out of hand, and cops shoot way to many people when they don't need to. On another I don't like the government telling me anything really, and am not sure that outlawing them will keep them away. Even though I don't own guns(legally can't right now because I am on probation) and doubt I ever will unless my mental health is in way better shape.

Did anyone see what that NRA guy posted about how Obama isn't doing anything about all the violence, and that he could completely remove gun violence by locking all criminals with guns up that shit is scary. He said basically with current federal laws they could lock all drug dealers, felons, and criminal gang bangers for having guns for 5 years and that they should do an all out raid and just lock everyone up.

They had a quote from hitler about the way to complete power is by disarming everyone. I don't get how he can go from comparing Obama to hitler and then go on to say that we should lock up every one who has a gun who is a drug user, dealer, has a criminal record, or is believed to be a criminal gang banger. That would involve incarcerating more people than the amount of jewish people who died in the holocaust. Not saying that being incarcerated is anywhere near as horrible as the holocaust I am just saying that is hypocritical.

I don't think it is right for them to ban felons from having guns if everyone else can have them. People with gun violent charges shouldn't be allowed them but people who commit non violent crimes, or had a felony from 40 years ago should be able to protect him and his family and allowed to go hunting if he wants to. I think it is stupid same thing with not being able to vote and the employment discrimination that goes on towards people with criminal records.

Is pseudoephederine available otc in Australia? I feel dumb for not knowing this but is pseudoephederine prescription only here in the US or is it just behind the counter where they limit how much you can buy and report it to the database so that you can't buy a lot? I never buy it so I actually have no idea, I just know that it isn't on the shelves anymore. Which makes a lot of the supply we get now come from Mexico where they have super labs that make tons of the stuff.

[makita]

"give it to big people because they're more able to handle it"  Jesusfuckingchrist, that grinds my gears.  I'd like to gradually poison him with fent until he has a habit, then come sit on him and inject him with naltrexone.

I could easily be wrong but Im almost positive what OP said was that 'he gives it to bigger people because theyd need more to OD" and it having no negative connotations toward people with a large BMI

I dont think OP's post ever mentiond any words like 'fat' or 'overweight'. just big.

the dude may was/is extremely ignorant to things like tolerance, but from what ive seen, said dude bears no ill will towards fat people. until we uncover more evidence I feel comfortable believing thats what he meant

point is makita, dont let this  upset you. he meant big people as in large, as in they probably shop at big and tall and make great basketball players

What?  I mean thank you for trying to make me feel better, but your interpretation doesn't make sense to me.  There is no way "bigger" people doesn't mean bigger bodied, ie fat, people.  Just because he doesn't say the WORD fat doesn't mean that is not what he means.

He doesn't have to say "I hate fat people and want them to die".  He's literally singling them out, giving them fent bags and they're ODing and probably dying as a result.  Like other oppressive and harmful behaviors the point is not his intention or his mindset, the point is what he is actually doing and the results. 

Fat people are seen by him (maybe unconsciously) as more disposable, collateral damage in a marketing experiment.  And he justifies it by saying "well they probably will be less likely to die"  I doubt he'd do the same thing with pregnant woman, although they are also "big"...and hey! they have another whole body inside them, so they can take more fent without dying too! 

I cant think of a more fucked up and obvious form of fat hatred. 

[Snout]

As far as "intervention " type shows, I think if someone was like " we are making a documentary about IV drug users and here is a stack of cash if you let us film you getting off", I'd be like "mr demille, I'm ready for my close up!"

[40mgtofreedom]

a 1/2oz of meth here is 300-400$ if you can get it from a mexican it can be less than $100 for an 8ball and not cut whatsoever at least 95% pure