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Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« on: November 04, 2015, 09:26:19 AM »
I'm at that place that all of us MMT patients experience from time to time....

I want off, I'M DONE.

Fuck all side effects, the sweating (and now it's just in time for winter) the ups and the downs and the all-the-fuck arounds.

Anyway, I've been trading doses, for xanax (another culprit), then, coming up short on doses... And then and then and then.

Anyway, cut to the chase, I've been out for two days, half dosing for an entire week and a day (8 days, Duh right?) and just yesterday took to Lope for relief.

I never turn to Lope.... Never took much stock in it truthfully. But tried it out anyway.

I've got the benzos for the tempestual storm of emotions within. And the lope has knocked the edge right the fuck off my kick.

I guess I'm asking/wondering if this is a finite sense of relief from the lope? As I plug away at it, will the lope begin to lose its effectiveness?

The plan would be a slight amount of methadone along with a lot bit of lope.

Then bupe once off the done for a good spell.... Maybe two weeks.

I want off, now. 

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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 11:35:41 AM »
There are some people who use lope long-term, so I don't think it would just suddenly crap out on ya.  So if it's currently working, and you've reached a comfortable dose, you can expect consistent results.  Some people get more "mileage" out of lope than others in terms of WD relief, which is why I phrased it the way I did.

As for the bupe... it may be tricky coming from methadone and lope or even just lope... the loperamide itself has somewhat of a long half life and can cause PWD misery if the bupe is dosed too soon.

But if you can stay away from the done and become stable on just the lope, you can try tapering a few mg per day (or as fast as comfort permits) and jump at 1mg.

Or maybe the bupe "habituation" trick would work.  That's where one begins taking small microgram doses of bupe alongside other opiates in order to eliminate PWD.  Has anybody done the bupe trick while on lope? 

Or methadone, for that matter?  That sounds a bit extreme... I'm not sure if it could work with done.  But people have successfully taken dope, oxy, morphine, and other short acting opiates along with miniscule doses of bupe to allow for a a PWD-free induction.

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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 08:55:24 AM »
Thanks dude.... That was a very informative response.

Gonna roll with it. See how it goes.

I can see it... Kinda.

I'm ready.... But they say not to quit in times of stress.

But when the hell is life ever "stress free".

I just can't make peace with being a lifer.

And I think I could change. With some effort.

Maybe I'm trying to find a faster way that doesn't exist. But for fucks sake I sure as hell did.

Thanx again Man.

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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 10:02:15 AM »
i want OFF too.

i'm just over the tie, expense and routine.

much luck to both of us, yeah ?!
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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 11:20:50 AM »
Yeah it keeps helping just drop a pill a day. Easer said than done. It helps i cant fucking hit to save my life. I shoved my last dose up my ass. Fuck us both amiright?
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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 01:28:09 PM »
Yeah it keeps helping just drop a pill a day. Easer said than done. It helps i cant fucking hit to save my life. I shoved my last dose up my ass. Fuck us both amiright?

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Re: Using Lope to Mitigate WD/using Bupe for remainder
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 04:00:18 PM »
time to quit 4 a while get those veins back & juicy  8) 8) 8) 8)

He want's off. As in really off.
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