Defeating ER morphine - for oral use

[SapphireBlue (OP)]

So I came across some ABG 30s and I'm planning to eat them.  When I get OPs I cut them up, smash the pieces and then break up those smashed pieces into even smaller ones and throw them into some Emergen-C and let them sit for 20 min or so. 

Seems to work pretty well for those, so i figured I'd do the same with these.  I would like to have something that is a bit easier/quicker, but if that's what I need to do then I'll do it of course.  Anyone have any better ideas, comments, suggestions?

[Chip]

perhaps dissolve the crushed powder (yuck) under the tongue ?

find some potentiators other than benzos and more opiates ?

[SapphireBlue (OP)]

Well Chipper, that would actually be easy to do with these!  I just chopped it up and I couldn't believe how easily it came apart.  It was NOTHING like the OPs!!  Those fuckers are like plastic, and are hard to cut up/smash.  They stick to the blade and then when I try to smash the pieces, it takes herculean effort.  And even then, you don't get any kind of powder - at all.

I must say, I was pleasantly surprised.  So I just chopped it all up and put it in a glass of OJ and downed it.  Didn't even leave it to sit for a few minutes.  We'll see how well it works for me.

And I actually have a great potentiator - methocarbamol!  Works sooo much better than Soma, IMHO.  And since I don't like benzos anyway, it works out well. 

[Thoms]

Yeah ive smashed up a shit ton of abg's and love them. Infact i just shot my last 2.5 30mg abgs this am. You should atleast plug those morphine though. The oral b.a. is only 30% and I think plugging them comes close to doubling that. (more like 50% ime). After all you have done all the work, you just have to put it in an oral syringe and push it from the exit going in. Also keep in mind when putting morphine into solution you need atleast 1Ml per 60mgs.

[Jega]

Yeah ive smashed up a shit ton of abg's and love them. Infact i just shot my last 2.5 30mg abgs this am. You should atleast plug those morphine though. The oral b.a. is only 30% and I think plugging them comes close to doubling that. (more like 50% ime). After all you have done all the work, you just have to put it in an oral syringe and push it from the exit going in. Also keep in mind when putting morphine into solution you need atleast 1Ml per 60mgs.

What Toms said. the oral BA of Morphine is almost as bad as Dilaudid. If you're against shooting, plug the darn things.

[SapphireBlue (OP)]

I plugged my dilaudid rx for 2 yrs, but I figured since this is an ER formulation that plugging might not be the best way to go??

I know the oral BA sucks ass, but I've gotten pretty good results by eating them in the past (and currently)....60 mg at a time makes me feel quite nice.    I just cut them into 7-8 pieces, toss it all in a glass of OJ and slug it down.  I usually have to do at least one wash of the inside of the glass to get all the bits that stick to the sides.     

But they do crush up very nicely; that was a pleasant surprise after dealing with the 60 mg OPs.  I've been getting them a lot lately too and those fuckers are a HUGE pain in the ass to cut/crush up.  Plastic fuckin' pieces o'shit is what they are...

When I got that bottle of liquid (oral) morphine in June, I did plug one dose of it and it was a total waste.  I seemed to get more from it by eating it.  Idk what's up with that, but that's my experience.  Has anyone else ever plugged the oral liquid morph??

Maybe I'll go ahead and try plugging my next dose..

[Thoms]

I only shot the liquid dose. So im no help there. The viggest factor with plugging isyou have to be totally cleanned out. Plus ime you have to use like 10 to 15 mls of water. It sounds like overkill and i suppose it prolly is it nust worked for me. If everythi g works out you will basically almost double your dose so keep that in mind. Any turds hanging out there will eat that morphine and it will be a waste.

[Chip]

you know, i prefer the ER stuff as it is an alternate, decent maintenance therapy.

the only bugger is that they take over and hour to start working noticeably but man, they hang in there.

i'd trade my Methadone for oral ER/MS-Contin. formulation.

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