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Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« on: October 05, 2015, 02:28:35 AM »
Hopefully some people will get some use from this

I crushed half a 100mg mallinckrodt mscontin
used harmonik's spoon crisp
 and heated it until it turned off-white/yellow

I then shocked it with 2mL nearly saturated solution of baking soda
following this I agitated it with a straight razor until the solids were totally dissolved
agitated again for another few minutes with the razor
then began to slowly heat the spoon containing the solution

After roughly less than a minute of direct heat
it produced a film that floats on top
It all solidifed into a gooey, white, bitter substance

Spreading it out on foil or wax paper helps dry it a bit
but it is ready to be vaporized as it comes out the spoon


Those of you who have cooked your own rock might say
no shit ya doodoo head this is how free base is born
but I could not find ONE single source for this on any other drug forum
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 07:42:30 AM »
That's very similar to how we do them over here.....but we dont crisp them first. We only get two brands of Morph here though. M-eslon (which we use the "pegging" method.......and Activas LA-Morph, which we use the baking soda method.
Get yourself some Acetic Anhydride man and give it a 15 minute cook in the oven on 150 degrees Celsius and try some homemade heroin mate!

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 06:14:10 AM »
Just my $.02, but pulling the M away from the rest of the crap before you vap that stuff would be... wise. Morphine is soluble in lots of stuff, I had great success with isopropyl and the HCL on I think it was the ABGs; but iso didn't work on another brand I tried. I had thought at the time maybe acetone might do it, but I never tried it.

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 08:10:23 AM »
Just my $.02, but pulling the M away from the rest of the crap before you vap that stuff would be... wise. Morphine is soluble in lots of stuff, I had great success with isopropyl and the HCL on I think it was the ABGs; but iso didn't work on another brand I tried. I had thought at the time maybe acetone might do it, but I never tried it.

Since I was only doing 50mg
and even was a bit... clumsy (careless) so a bit was lost
even still this is the next step (isopropyl)

I can also get those monstrous fucking E 658 pills
 but I can imagine those would be better than mallinckrodts

Also there isnt shit online about an iso extract of MSContin
WASSUP WITH THAT?!?
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 08:50:52 AM »
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 09:55:40 AM »
Ive been wanting to try my hand at homeback for many years now. I have access to a ton of 15MG Watson (abg) morphine, as well as an easy to access source of AA.
Which route would be the easiest for a novice to isolate (well, isolated enough for homebake) and freebase?

With the ABG's, could I remove the coatings and crush finely, then do a 91% isopropanol extraction to isolate morphine hcl then use baking soda to base it out? As for the isopropyl alcohol at 91% I could use Epsom salt to get it as close as anhydrous as possible, or just go get 99% isopropyl alcohol in the next town over.

I just want to get rid of as much of the gel in the ABG'S as possible because it would be really difficult to source chalky white morphine IR's in an oxym centric userbase.

In short - what's the best way to clean up Watson ABG morphines for freebase to H conversion?

Advice?
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 10:01:24 AM by theSWPK »
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2015, 04:17:46 AM »
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 12:48:57 AM »
With way I was doing the purple 30s (I think those were ABG?) for awhile, you actually wanted water in the iso, without any water the M wouldn't come out.

The trick was to add a little HCl to the pill mass in 10-20ml %70 isopropyl and let it soak, then draw off the liquid and evap down to just a couple ml, and at that point I was adding sodium carbonate to base the M, and then continue evaporating to dryness (carefully!) under heat. At that point, you should have clean & dry morphine base. That worked really well on the purple 30s, then I started getting these weird green pills and they'd gel in the iso. Again I considered trying acetone, but never got around to it.

The basic premise was that the gel mechanism didn't work in the iso, so it was a lot like just doing a hot water pull and then evaporating the liquid off with a little carbonate at the end.

added: the HCl salt isn't very soluble in iso, so if you do this make sure there's enough water in there for the amount of M you're working with, should be ~1ml per 60mg.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 06:44:22 AM »
With way I was doing the purple 30s (I think those were ABG?) for awhile, you actually wanted water in the iso, without any water the M wouldn't come out.

The trick was to add a little HCl to the pill mass in 10-20ml %70 isopropyl and let it soak, then draw off the liquid and evap down to just a couple ml, and at that point I was adding sodium carbonate to base the M, and then continue evaporating to dryness (carefully!) under heat. At that point, you should have clean & dry morphine base. That worked really well on the purple 30s, then I started getting these weird green pills and they'd gel in the iso. Again I considered trying acetone, but never got around to it.

The basic premise was that the gel mechanism didn't work in the iso, so it was a lot like just doing a hot water pull and then evaporating the liquid off with a little carbonate at the end.

added: the HCl salt isn't very soluble in iso, so if you do this make sure there's enough water in there for the amount of M you're working with, should be ~1ml per 60mg.

I have read that ISO is only effective for ABGs (Watsons)
And that its not recommended for Mallinckrodts or Endos

I haven't tried it with either, although I have access to both
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 02:20:58 PM »
I dk if i missed the point but those purple ones are abg 30s and i forget what the green are but to get it into a shot you just have to boil the water and quickly throw in the powder and draw. Heating after the pill is in the water makes it worse. I havent seen the filtered liquid gel again but it hasnt sat around for more that 5 er ten minutes. Good luck. Whats the ba of smoked morphine and wth would you want to do that. Not to be condescending.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 08:55:20 PM »
I dk if i missed the point but those purple ones are abg 30s and i forget what the green are but to get it into a shot you just have to boil the water and quickly throw in the powder and draw. Heating after the pill is in the water makes it worse. I havent seen the filtered liquid gel again but it hasnt sat around for more that 5 er ten minutes. Good luck. Whats the ba of smoked morphine and wth would you want to do that. Not to be condescending.

You need freebase morphine, not morphine sulfate, to use to make heroin with acetyl anhydride.
Nobody's smoking morphine.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 11:42:12 PM »
I dk if i missed the point but those purple ones are abg 30s and i forget what the green are but to get it into a shot you just have to boil the water and quickly throw in the powder and draw. Heating after the pill is in the water makes it worse. I havent seen the filtered liquid gel again but it hasnt sat around for more that 5 er ten minutes. Good luck. Whats the ba of smoked morphine and wth would you want to do that. Not to be condescending.

cause im bored
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i have a nice coil system one on the way so i will let you know

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2015, 11:57:25 PM »
The point is separating the M from the rest of the crap in those pills, of which there is a shit ton, especially in the smaller doses. Trying to homebake 30s works, but the shots are nasty and jet black and leave a ton of crap in the spoon. If you clean the pills first, it's an entirely different hit.

I forgot (it's been awhile) about the wax part, which may or may not matter depending on what you're doing. If you want REALLY clean shit, you can do the first extraction with %100 iso and no hcl, and all you'll bring over is straight up wax, I swear you could make a very pretty little red candle with the shit. You can easily find %100 iso in auto parts stores as a fuel additive for drying gasoline, it's like Heat brand in the US, but in the red bottle NOT the yellow bottle, that's methanol. It's really easy to just do 1 pull with the %100, and then do the extraction like I described above and you'll get crunchy brown yummy Morphine in your drying vessel.

You actually can acetylate Morphine HCl, but most pills are M. Sulphate, for whatever that's worth..
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2015, 01:57:41 AM »
I figured i was missing a bit. Fair enough:)
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2015, 02:00:05 AM »
You can only get up to 99% iso.
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