I tried methamphetamines but nothing happened :)

[antidepressing]

Not sure if this paste stuff smokes, but when in doubt about the quality of crystal, smoke a hit off aluminum foil or a glass pipe. Speed melts/smokes very nicely with a common core taste and the lung-uptake should hit you pretty good.

Wondering if that Rivotril thing might be fuzzing with your experience, especially on low doses of the meth.

[ceaser]

Snorting is my 2nd least favorite way of ingesting meth. Mixing with liquid and drinking is my least favorite. Snorting is so bad for your nose. It burns like hell, but it should get you high pretty much instantaneously still. Shooting is balls out wiggy insane. To say I get instantly horny after shooting would be a colossal understatement. Oh... I forgot to mention smoking. I too love smoking meth with friends, and talking non-stop; sometimes for days. But if I'm alone, or I just need to get my fix, I shoot it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but missing a vein with meth is dangerous as hell. Is it not? I believe that's what caused some pretty gnarly abcesses to burst while I was in California about a year ago.

[Chip]

Snorting is my 2nd least favorite way of ingesting meth. Mixing with liquid and drinking is my least favorite. Snorting is so bad for your nose. It burns like hell, but it should get you high pretty much instantaneously still. Shooting is balls out wiggy insane. To say I get instantly horny after shooting would be a colossal understatement. Oh... I forgot to mention smoking. I too love smoking meth with friends, and talking non-stop; sometimes for days. But if I'm alone, or I just need to get my fix, I shoot it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but missing a vein with meth is dangerous as hell. Is it not? I believe that's what caused some pretty gnarly abcesses to burst while I was in California about a year ago.

not so, IME ... Meth is made with so much toxic shit, the drug tends to carry so little bacteria etc. that it shouldn't hurt or form an abcess.

[robojunkie]

IMHO, whenever one "cook" teaches another "cook" teaches another "cook", the quality of the prepared product drops each time until eventually you have what I see around here (I know a few) where the stuff they make is more pseudo fed and trace lithium salts than meth that when they try the real deal they are confused and not sure what the fuck to think.  I know this one girl did some of my shit after doing her man's shit for years, acted all disappointed started defending her man's shit, then promptly froze up and seized for five minutes and didn't sleep for forty eight hours (as, despite my advice, did a pile the size of what she was used to).

Most of these guys have no idea what they are doing chemistry wise and are for all intents and purposes "monkey see monkey do's".  All they know is well swirl it around after you catch the ammonia with propane until it looks like gold.  No work up, no pill extraction, a bunch of crap.  When I did it, dropped water on the ammonium nitrate/sodium hydroxide mix with a tube going to a flask in a dry ice bath with another tube going to an empty flask with a second tube going into acidic water (to absorb any escaping ammonia so it can be done inside).  The middle empty flask is a water trap for any pull back so it doesn't get in the anhydrous.  Once done distilling the extracted PE base in toluene (or preferably THF) is added already cooled and the lithium pieces are added with swirling until the deep blue stays.  One doesn't need anywhere near as much ammonia or lithium as these guys use, they use like five times too much.  Then its taken outta the dry ice and the trap flask removed so the slowly boiling ammonia goes into the acid trap at the end.  By the time its nearly evaporated (over half hour for 5 gram batch average) its golden liquid colored and pretty much totally reduced.  But that's not the end.  These guys just add hexanes/naphta/toluene and "gas" it out with HCl gas.  NO!  Add the hexanes and give it a water wash to get rid of any ammonia for fucks sake because gassing that will give you ammonium chloride and some of the lithium salts as well as unreacted PE and SOME meth.  And it will be wet.  After the water wash a salt wash then throw in anhydrous sodium sulfate and pour into another container to gas and then you can filter and rinse.  Now one will have way over 90% pure shit and nearly quantitative yield. 

When the day comes I decide to do some meth and buy it off the street instead of making it, please fucking shoot me!

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^^^And that's why most of what passes for "crystal" burns like hell when you sniff it, right? If it's pure meth it doesn't burn right?

I bought some of what someone was selling as "meth" at a rave once, and it was some shit that just got me all sorts of jacked up, with no euphoric rush at ALL. I don't know what it was but it sure kept me up all fucking night, heart pounding.

Might have been something cut with clenbuterol or some adrenergic agent or something.

Best speed I've ever taken was pharm. Desoxyn. Pure d-methamphetamine. When you cook from pseudoephedrine, you still get a racemic mixture as the product right?

And is there a difference in the product obtained from ephedrine vs. pseudoephedrine?
Dexedrine was my fave amp though. To me it was slightly better than the Desoxyn tablets I got hold of from time to time.

[Thoms]

Go back to the "Search History" on your computer from the day you used...

Is it full of some of the most depraved content you've ever seen?

Did you have an undeniable urge to peek thru your curtains/blinds for hours and hours on end?

Did you take ANYTHING apart, then put it back together... Or better yet, just leave it in pieces?

If you answered YES to ANY of the above, then you had you some Meth baby!!!

If no.... Try again.

I missed this before but lmao this time. Also look in your side yard. If you have come up on one or two sets of washers and dryers or some old cry tvs, it was crystal...

[sambo]

my favorite subjects - methamphets and forums.

if the meth. is pure then 1/20 th. of a gram, IV, will give you a feeling of exhilaration.

we get purity levels up to 80% but I have no idea what you had.

there is a lot of HEAVILY cut meth. that looks and handles like the real thing and we will pay $AUD 300-500 a gram.

you will know when it works because you'll feel bulletproof and 10 ft. high.

as far as this editor goes, marking the text and BOLDing more than once will just confused you.

you can use Ctrl+z to undo your last text modification.

just keep practising and exploring - if you post something wrong then one of the staff will try to correct it for you.

I'm sorry but we are all suspicious of white powder - we use crystal here and being OFF-white and/or a bit oily is what you want.

you won't sleep for over 24-36 hours.

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 great write up. thanks chipper.

you just blew my mind though. ~$215 USD per gram. how hard is it to get onto that massive island?? the price is less than 1/4 here

[theSWPK]

That sucks man. I live in a spot where speed is just not around almost: Minnesota. I wouldn't want any speed that made it here either. I got some folks on the West Coast with the heaven. You won't grit your teeth and you'll sleep like a baby. And if you... Well now I'm just... Fiending sorry.

Meth is clear crystals. Any cloudyness is usually rat poison or something else horrible. The quality of meth from L.A. to the desert suburbs was staggering. It was apples and oranges. And most people, sadly for those of us who demand quality and performance from our drugs, don't notice. Sorry that I don't have any great suggestions for you, but just know that there are some places where you aren't going to find good meth.

Better luck next time. There is nothing worse on this earth, than to pay money for fake drugs. The thing that is worse is for whomever you got it from to duck you or not pay you back. There's a million jack moves and only one you. So look for the clear crystals of perfection whenever smoking, shooting, or burning your nose off with your finest quality methamphetamine. The comedown sucks. I suggest hamburgers for that.

Dude, are you serious? The cloudy spots in crystal method are not rat poison... just impurities from the cook. None of which is rat poison..

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Dude, are you serious? The cloudy spots in crystal method are not rat poison... just impurities from the cook. None of which is rat poison..

yeah, man, don't you know? You can make meth from just about any household chemical, bleach, dish detergent, charcoal litghter fluid, pop rocks, spray paint, rubber cement, super glue, borax (that's a good one), good old gasoline, aspirin tablets, Tylenol, and some bug spray helps to pump up the potency - that's what the real expert cooks use.

Just mix up a bunch of household chemicals and shit (yes, dog shit) in a bucket, bring it to a boil, then strain it out and evaporate the residue, then smoke that shit homie! You got some crystal meth right there!

Oh, and I almost forgot - it's something about batteries. You gotta throw in a couple ENERGIZER brand ALKALINE batteries. This is very important. Once you got the hang of it, it's pretty easy. I've done it a few dozen times... easy!

[thetalkingasshole]

Can we got some real numbers here? For U.S. crystal purity on average

It has to be at least moderately high concentration to form a crystal
ive gotten some stuff that looked like a piece of broken (untempered) glass
Other stuff was clearly crystal but a little cloudier

Any time anyone offered me powder as crystal, I passed
because that shit was like green or yellow at best

80% for average crystal? 85? 95?

[thetalkingasshole]

http://www.methproject.org/action/hawaii/details/news-story-2011-10-16.html

Hawai'i clocking in at over 98% AVERAGE for 2010

Im seeing other numbers like 66, 40, 51 for U.S. mainland overall
but those numbers are from the before times
i know the cartels have made a huge, concerted effort over the last 10 years
to get as much high purity meth into the u.s. as possible (and heroin)

[Chip]

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 great write up. thanks chipper.

you just blew my mind though. ~$215 USD per gram. how hard is it to get onto that massive island?? the price is less than 1/4 here

in Australia, the current wholesale price of a kilo, according to our newspapers, is $95,000 for a kilo then sold on at $50 for a point on the street ($400 per gram etc.)

[Thoms]

Damn I just saw a guy buy an ounce for 350 us$ I guess the cartels don't care about oz enough.

[Chip]

well @Thoms, today, on the news (my trusty cube AM radio), it was reported that they seized $AUD ONE BILLION worth of liquid methamphetamine (190 litres and then an additional 530 litres later) here in Australia.

wow ! ...see http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,2248

... and see what i mean about needing an easily accessible alternative "maint" type option to this drug ? it's everywhere by the looks of it ... i'd still give Dexamp Therapy a try ... a low cost and pure option for maintenance. whereas they way it is now,

i try to back out but then they keep on pulling me back in

[Anti-hero]

If you did a acid/base cleaning
Would clean it up
But t to might end up with very little meth
That's the problem with these home based cooks is they don't clean the product enough.
More volume
More money
More crap in it
Meth is a horrible drug.
It is truly evil imho
And now that we have the net
Everyone that has a pirex plate
And a box of pusdophed
Is a cook.

I haven't done it in ten years
And have no desire to try any of
This home made crap
Go with some riddlin(sp)
Or adderall.

Be safe man
Unless it's pure crystals
Then don't fuck with it.

[Anti-hero]

Today, on the news (AM radio), it was reported that they seized $AUD ONE BILLION worth of liquid methamp. (190 litres) here in Aus.

see http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,2248

... and see what i mean about needing an easily accessible alternative "maint" type option to this drug ? it's so prevalent.

Damn there must be a major market in your country
To set up a smuggling operation like that
You would easily need some major dollars
I don't think we get that Chinese meth here(but I'm in the middle of no where)
Yes there needs to be some sort of maintenance
But
Unlike opiates long term use causes major damage.
So any maintenance imho should be geared toward abstinence.