Has Anybody Used the Darkweb to Any Extent ?

[Chip (OP)]

so no web crawlers or indexing systems access the Darkweb ?

Surely it's only a matter of time that transactions will be exposed.

I personally don't want to deal with using the postal system and score via. that medium.

I'd rather do the deal in person, the old fashioned analog drug acquisition method is for me.

less paper trail.

[Z]

I ordered a few times way back when.  What interested me most was getting drugs from different countries.  My first order was from a Thai vendor, and it was good, but compared pretty evenly to the heroin I got from my guy and cost more money.

In fact, that was my general experience there with heroin.  Cocaine was something else, but there was a lot of scamming.  Bait and switch, where you would order a tester and it was fire.  Order a larger amount and it was crap. 

I guess if you lived in a place with no drugs it makes sense, or if you want to order more difficult to source items like fentanyl powder.

Bitcoins are pseudonymous.  The blockchain is an eternal record of them, but who did what with which ones?  No way to know.

The tor version of Google is the hidden wiki.  Apparently there is also a search engine now called grams I think.  Deepdotweb is a great news site to find out more info at,as well as Reddit. 

[OpiXPO]

Grams works pretty well but is slow as hell.

The hidden wiki keeps getting phishing sites put on to it, and is one of the ways people keep getting their bitcoin's stolen. Deepdotweb, I second Z on that. It's a great place to find links.

[Bhoris]

I used to use DNMs pretty extensively but haven't ordered anything in quite a while. I mostly used them to order really good pure mdma and some other stuff I had a hard time sourcing around my area. I did try dope off it once and it was damn good but the price just wasn't worth it and dope isn't something I can tolerate waiting for. Always tumble your bitcoins before sending them to any DNM!

[hanna]

I bought weapons. No hassle, fair prices, excellent quality merchandise. My only concern is if they were previously involved in crimes. My vendor assured me they weren't.

[Riddick">Riddick]

I bought weapons. No hassle, fair prices, excellent quality merchandise. My only concern is if they were previously involved in crimes. My vendor assured me they weren't.

Sounds like a very dangerous game.

[Chip (OP)]

be careful what you admit to.

[hanna]

be careful what you admit to.

Good advice, which is why I never indicated what kind of weapons they were.

[Serilia]

Now and then I will , I have a pal who's big into psychedelics' and uses the same vendors fairly often. I've made opiate purchases a few times with nothing but success. Its not legal to buy or receive drugs in the USA at all. So if ya do just attempt to insulate yourself as much as possible ,plenty of FAQs out about being as safe ad possible on the deep , dark web.

[corlene]

Some of the Marijuana vendors have been around since the original silk road, much better bud than can be had here regularly for half the price, it's about the only reasonably priced thing on he DNMs, psychedelics being another.

[BatNuts]

Has anyone ordered anything recently? I want to order some mdma but i'm scared to pull the trigger on it. also do you think I need vpn as well?

[Morfy]

I know very little about everything involved with that whole setup, so I've just been watching and reading about it from time to time.


Most of the input (from Ophile) was positive, about how SR's escrow system worked, and actually obtaining what was ordered, even odd & hard to find chemicals.


While I am sure there are many legit reasons for having & using TOR, it also seemed like having TOR might be like waving a big red flag to any LE groups, while yelling:


"HEY!!  I might be doing naughty things here!  You might wanna take a closer look at my activities!!!"


Besides that, I'm not tech savvy enough to understand how Bitcoin, TOR, etc... worked.  I'd just muck it up and end-up having all my currency stolen, while being sloppy enough on any trading to get arrested.


It seems like each site has a finite life span before its shut down, or one member of the site goes rogue and steals as much as he can--including INFORMATION about all transactions.  Could be a golden ticket for them to stay out of prison, or used to extort members.

[40mgtofreedom]

everything you need to know about darknet markets can be found at reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets
edit: also someone mentioned https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs which is a GREAT noobie resource
how to set up your OS,

how to connect to TOR

how to do PGP

what markets addresses are in onion URLs

multi sig escrow

you have no business making a purchase on a DNM unless you understand and USE pgp, tor and encryption

everything you need to learn is on the right hand side of that link

that subreddit is a great place to see reviews and keep your finger on the pulse of DNMs

beware because scams happen, you need to pay attention!  also watch out for disinfo shills.

Following that subreddit has kept me abreast of all the pressed xanax pills (real) that are flowing thru our fine country right now

many pictures of bags of THOUSANDS of bars, different presses, content of alprazolam etc, vendors competing for lowest price highest quality xanax bars.

also a SOLID place to buy quality lsd

[40mgtofreedom]

TOR isn't anonymous, most government s have control over both entry and exit nodes. Explaining it simply, they can use this along with other information to find out your location. Australia is particularly good at this, they've had arrests just by looking at who in their country is using TOR and then watching your mail. Your ISP can also see if your using TOR as well even if your using a proxy, as the traffic source will still be from TOR's protocols.

If you use it for dark market shopping, be really fucking careful and vigilant with your opsec.

TOR is a US govermnent service.  its not that easy to find your location, its designed not to be, in fact its impossible if not near impossible you would have to have control of over 70percent of exit nodes in order to narrow it down to some kind of reasonable search area.  an easy way to keep an isp from seing your tor traffic is to simply use a VPN and connect to tor thru the vpn, that way your traffic is encrypted from start to end AND anonymous as well.  combining that with using a tails in VM with PGP is incredibly safe. 

But yes of all the places australia is the highest risk, but the risk is much much lower for domestic (in country) orders no matter where you're at.

[skramamme]

Considering customs seized a fucking glass pipe and sent me a seizure notice etc I would be too scared to try and import anything actually illegal. Seriously, how the fuck is a glass pipe illegal?! Still so fucking pissed off about that.
But yeah, add to that that I have a fairly heavy criminal record (trafficking and armed robbery ) I just worry that I would have a little red dot next to my name if something were to come from Amsterdam 

[Chip (OP)]

whilst I know nothing about all this, I still advise against it - as it's the publishing of your name and address that is unwise, especially since you know that it is not legal.

I strongly encourage you to find what you want through your personal network of friends.

mind you, I am speaking as an Australian resident here - things might be less concerning elsewhere.