Good quality coke, zero rush when IV'd. Input?

[Tainted]

Meth and amps, even pure tablets, just have a dirty manmade feeling. My biggest problem with them though, is that the high for me lasts maybe an hour or two longer than coke, and then i just spend the other 10 hours feeling jittery side effects whereas on coke i would have come down already and can just redose and get just as high

i never understand when ppl say this. "dirty manmade feeling" ive heard that used to describe drugs many many times (although normally not in that context, normally more in the 'i dont do MANMADE drugs, only stuff that comes from the earth and isnt manmade!') but pretty much all drugs are manmade. coke is man made. sure it exists in the coca plant but it needs chemical extraction/refining/processing. i guess weed and shrooms arent completely man-made, but they're genetics (weed, prolly not most shrrooms) have been exploited by man for so long it may as well be manmade.


ive tried shooting crack 3 times in the last year or so and every single fucking time its been a total waste. the shit im getting is FAR from the best quality, but its decent enough i guess. but i throw a dub in a spoon, throw in 60 units of white vinegar (5% acetic acid, which ive read is what people use) and i get either nothing at all or i get a slight speedy high without any real rush (nothing like shooting coke) wtf is the deal with that? am i just getting rock that is THAT shitty quality? the last time i tried was last night and i threw a very large dub in the spoon, big enougjh that i could have gotten 4 good hits off a stem, used 70 units of white vinegar and i got a bit of a speedy high, got a little naseuos, but i didnt get a rush like i do when i shoot powder C.

[Bodytec]

It may be really crappy rock. I've always used lemon juice or those crystal light packets with a little water. It should sizzle when breaking down. I've had some good rock that shot really good,just do not miss with lemon juice or it will swell for about a week.

[MoeMentim]

@Tainted - I've shot rock that were just as good as powder.  I assume you keep adding vinegar until it stops foaming?  Also - I've heard that vinegar isn't great to iv (can contain bacteria), safer than lemon juice but not as safe as citric acid (viatamin c), that's what i always use(d). 

  Did you smoke any to compare effects?

[Tainted]

@Tainted - I've shot rock that were just as good as powder.  I assume you keep adding vinegar until it stops foaming?  Also - I've heard that vinegar isn't great to iv (can contain bacteria), safer than lemon juice but not as safe as citric acid (viatamin c), that's what i always use(d). 

  Did you smoke any to compare effects?

yeah i had bought a few dubs so i smoked a bunch and like i said it was mediocre, it wasn't great but wasn't terrible.
i just added 70 units, it fizzed a little bit (my previous attempts i dont recall it fizzing at all)

and i know vinegar is terrible to IV, but ive heard lemon juice is WAY WAY WAY worse.  i got no clue where to get citric acid from. the first time i ever tried shooting rock, i bought vitamin C supplements, crushed them up in a spoon, poured water on it, used a cotton and sucked it up, then used that water to melt down the rock. didnt work AT ALL for me, but my gf at the time said it worked for her. only time i ever tried it that way. i got no clue where to get absorbic acid or whatever is in vtamin C

i know the needle exchanges in some countries hand it out, but i live in FL, we dont even got needle exchanges

[DiacetylKineval]

Ive heard the extraction/refinement process arguement from those shroomers and potheads al naturale type people for coke and smack. Kind of arrogant people, usually bitch about my cigs too.

Easy answer is well the way i feel about meth is subjective.

But, in my opinion no amount of processing changes whether the starting molecule came from a plant, or didnt.

And call me crazy, but i just trust the ones that started with a plant. Well, not trust so much as just i like em better.

I like them to the point that ive thrown tons of money at them and spend every waking second on at least 2 of them, caffeine and nicotine, so yeah, in that sense the natural ones are probably worse for me anyway. I can certainly enjoy some meth with a girl or something and put it down. Heroin, a cigarette, even a damn cup of coffee; if my systems been used to it, things wont be pretty when i dont have it.

[Chip]

meth. comes from a plant too; Ephedrine can be extracted from the Ma Huang plant and then by reduction of an OH group to meth.

[DiacetylKineval]

I knew someone would bring up ephedrine. Its a far cry from meth, and really not even part of the process on most street level meth anymore.

Isolating morphine, adding a couple acetyl groups, refining coke straight from the leaves. Just a bit closer to the source in my opinion.

But also, like i said, meth dont feel right to me, so either way lol, there ya go

Also, maybe im biased because, at least in my area, people who use meth as opposed to literally any other drug are all really fuckin weird, narcissistic, psychotic, self absorbed lunatics. Idk why, but judging on how it even affects my behavior in ways i dont want it to, i guess it seems that people are choosing to continue using something that really changes them in strange ways. I try to avoid things that change me like that. But maybe its just not my cup of tea, as i know plenty of drugs have great effect on my behavior

[Chip]

Give me an opiate using person over a tweaker any day.

Ephedrine or psuedo-Ephedrine is how Meth is made these days.

I use Meth to build this site otherwise nothing would get done.

Not all Meth users are crazy but many aresad excuses for human beings.

[Z]

Lemon lime Kool aid is essentially 99℅ pure citric acid with a preservative or two.  The one that you add sugar to of course.

[DiacetylKineval]

That came out sideways anyway chip, i was high and have had a chip on my shoulder about meth since my ex.

[neighbor]

Lemon lime Kool aid is essentially 99℅ pure citric acid with a preservative or two.  The one that you add sugar to of course.

Indeed. If you're going to be shooting crack in the first place, atleast do it right with some koolaid and a newport for a filter.

5% vinegar solution could work but wont be as effective as koolaid packets, IMLE

serious about the koolaid, joking about the newports. Drink the koolaid and try shooting koolaid with your crack if you want the crack junky merit badge. this is starting to sound familiar....

TL;DR  your vinegar solution was off and was just adding more danger to an already dangerous situation. just smoke it man.

[Chip]

That came out sideways anyway chip, i was high and have had a chip on my shoulder about meth since my ex.

nah, you're cool. meth is very dangerous and potent drug that compromises too many people.

it gives idiots the energy to be even bigger idiots and for much longer.

there are very few nice people that use meth that i like, i tend to avoid them and find that the opiate set are so much cooler - with exceptions in both cases, naturally.

[NZniceguy]

Can you guys/gals in the States not get Citric Acid in the supermarket? Over here its near the baking soda and other baking ingredients. Usually in a wee plastic container.

[DiacetylKineval]

Ive always heard that vinegar can cause some weird fungal infection and lemon juice is much the same. That vit c powder is the way to go. Idk ive done desperate things for dope but ive never needed to shoot crack. Like smoking it just the way it is.

And to be honest, after having some junk in my veins after 7 or 8 months, my comments about drugs changing me were premature. I think im only normal on opiates after some tolerance has built, i can be quite manic getting high for the first time in awhile. As much as i bitch about alcohol, at least its debilitating enough to keep me from too stupid of behaviors

[AllNightLong]

I have used vinegar on occasion to shoot rocks with and its always worked fine. No issues with infections or anything at all.

Btw, I love shooting coke. I am honestly starting to prefer shooting coke more than dope. Lately I will do a speedball when I first pick up and then shoot coke. Once I start to come down I will shoot the rest of my dope.

[DiacetylKineval]

Dont get me wrong i love shooting coke. Idk, slamming coke vs smoking crack is like the one comparison i cant decide which i like better, so whatever form it comes in is how ill use it. However i will say, id seek out a pipe if i have crack and no equipment, id probably just snort it if i have coke and no rigs. I really like all 3 ways of doing it. And ill pretty much be needing some depressant in 20 minutes anyway