About to score my first point of H...

[Jake Frazier (OP)]

Never tried this stuff before, but the complete lack of pills has led me to this decision. 

I know it's a broad topic, but since my tolerance is WAY low, and I intend to snort the stuff, can I get some advice on usage, safety, and how much H tends to give the same high as...say...20 mg of oxy?

I know quality varies, but the source comes highly recommended.

Anyway, any feedback would be appreciated.  Delving into this kinds scares the shit out of me.   

[traplord69]

I would definitely tread lightly, it sounds like you have a very low tolerance so I would never want to offer dose advice and have something bad happen.  Unfortunately you are going through what I'm sure almost everyone on this board has, made the inevitable transition from the unaffordable prescription opi's to the slightly more affordable heroin, depending on where you are of course.  One thing I can say is that heroin didn't blow me away at all when I was snorting it in the beginning, it wasn't until I shot that I really noticed how powerful it could be.  I probably had a 120mg+ a day oxy habit when I first tried heroin and like I said, I got high but it wasn't anything spectacular.  If I had to make any recommendation other than not to get into doing heroin, it would be start with a veryyy small bump, not a line, and see how you feel.  To state the obvious you can always do more but you can't do less. Be well

[jonnyr3b]

It SHOULD scare the shit out of you, you're trying to compare dope to 20mg of oxy?
You're in over your head dude.

[Daughter of Dionysus]

Dude
I know the "glamor of this life"
Might not have
Worn off yet
But please see
That the steps
Keep
Getting
Bigger
And
BIGGER
And
Bigger
And
BIGGER
Then the glamor
Wares off
And you become
Old and alone
It's a true story

Ask many of the addicts here
Also breaks my heart
When I see thread
Titles like this one

[Guts]

Ask many of the addicts here
Also breaks my heart
When I see thread
Titles like this one

What can you do... it's a long road to self-realization...

[Fentfiend420]

Your tolly is so low!
Just get by with lope or kratom.
In most cases once you try it, it open's up the flood gates.
For the love of a higher power please don't do the h!
I'm only saying this cause I care and I'm a junkie. Trust me when I say it's no cake walk!

[traplord69]

Yea I hope my post didn't come off as if I was condoning or encouraging you to do H.  Like everyone else says it will take on one fucked up journey, or atleast has a high potential of doing so.  To be practical though, no amount of anyone telling him the risks and dangers of H is likely to stop him from doing it.  I guess best case scenario if you wind up doing it, is that it does scare the shit out of you and you decide to not do it again. 

[EMC]

I was addicted to tramadol (feel free to laugh if you must) for three years and it sucked absolute balls getting off those. I've never been addicted to H, but do chip. When I use for a week, the three days after just fucking horrible. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to come off a lengthy habit. So to echo what others have said, please take some time with this decision.

If there is no stopping you, well, the conventional wisdom I always seem to read is to snort a 'match-head size' bump. Wait half an hour before doing any more.

[Z]

Yeah, it's hard to judge heroin's potency.  When you're sniffing you aren't trying to get a rush like with an injection, so you can take a little and keep adding.  Just do that and go slowly.  If you don't want to inject it, and you really don't, then the next most effecient way is to make a solution and put it up your butt with an oral syringe.  Snorting is fine, but my experience is that it isn't the best RoA.


Be safe.  Try to have someone nearby who knows what's going on, or is at least smart enough to tell that you are in trouble.

[Jake Frazier (OP)]

I appreciate all of the kind feedback.  I actually can afford pills, but absolutely none of the contacts I've made has a damn thing.  Hopefully, that will change. In the meantime, a match head sized bump does seem the next best thing to not doing it at all...I'm afraid that avoidance just ain't gonna happen.  I'll let you guys know what the results are. 
 

[nick]

I'd think again if I were you-BUT if you decide to go for it,BE SAFE.

1.Don't mix it with other drugs-including booze.

2.Tester dose.

3.Try and use with other people around-hopefully with naloxone available.

As I say,think again.

[Jake Frazier (OP)]

So, no speedballing, huh?  Lol.

Seriously, though...thanks for all the heartfelt concern.  I've actually known dozens of addicts in my life, and I'm not blind to the danger.  I plan to go nice and easy...maybe even share a bump with my contact to test the quality of the batch.

I'm rolling the dice...no doubt...but life's like that.

[Taytoechip]

So, no speedballing, huh?  Lol.

Seriously, though...thanks for all the heartfelt concern.  I've actually known dozens of addicts in my life, and I'm not blind to the danger.  I plan to go nice and easy...maybe even share a bump with my contact to test the quality of the batch.

I'm rolling the dice...no doubt...but life's like that.

Lesson one: dont buy drugs from someone who does said drugs. When buying pharms its a lot harder, maybe next to impossible to come by. But with this life stealing powder its fairly common to find dealers who may smoke weed or whatever, but they dont dip into their own stash of harder shit. no doubt you can still get fucked by them, but a dealer/middleman who is on sick and has people trying to throw money at him will only think of one person. Certainly not you.

and lets not kid ourselves, you're not rolling the fucking dice here, you're playing Russian roulette with 3 bullets. But who am i to tell you not to?

I would like comment and say that you're trying to reach the equivalent of 20mg of oxy. BUT your current usage/tolerance is that of 10mg of hydrocodone.
Even this simple step up could put you in a fucking hole.

this is so fucking uncomfortable. I wish i made a thread like this when thinking of jumping from pharms to dope years ago. Maybe i wouldnt have fucked up everything and died. ACTUALLY DIED. But we keep it moving. Now for a smiley face to make this entire post more warm hearted  there, thats nice.

[Z]

I know lots of people who started with heroin.  According to the Internet I should be dead from my first doses.  It's not like there is some sort of formula to follow for this stuff.  I kind of started with pills, but it was speedball's of dilaudid and coke on day 2.

I totally get trying to discourage someone, but I don't know if laying it on too thick will do anything.  If someone told you not to do dope would you have still started?  I know that lots of people told me not to, and I didn't listen to any of them.

I think that accepting that people are going to do what they are going to do, and they deserve the best safety info that they can get in that circumstance is a big part of harm reduction.

My big suggestion would be to find someone who uses and offer to get them high.  Ask them how much to use.  They know how strong the drugs they get are.
Just my personal opinion on these threads mind you.

[Jake Frazier (OP)]

Well, boys and girls...I guess I'm glad I posted this.  I just called the whole thing off.

It seems that there's no way for this to end except badly.  I appreciate all the candor and stern warnings.  It worked.