Backup

[pODDity (OP)]

So in this crazy world. And living in NYC  My biggest fear is some fucked up war/ bomb attack or some shit happening. And me getting fucked without methadone.  If a person was to have backup  MDne... What would be the best way to preserve it. Fridge? Freezer? Room temp? Or dry it out.?
 
Really the world is fucked. And US news doesn't show the half of it. I watch a lot of RT.
Def stresses me out. I'm sure Anybody on MMT can relate to the FEAR.

[Chip]

I wouldn't worry about Methadone storage, it's got a long shelf life.

welcome !

[Guts]

Maybe it's different being in NYC and all but fuck dude... that's a lot of worrying. Maybe you're not taking your meds right? That's me fucking with you in case you don't catch it.

[Snout]

I felt the same way when I was on methadone. My clinic made it clear through their actions that they could not have cared less about the clients. I always had an extra take home or two stashed in the fridge, and I would use it and replace it with a fresh one monthly. I also bought 2 big bottles of loperamide on line, just in case a natural disaster shut the city down. In Seattle, this could be as little as 2 inches of snow!

[dizzle]

I'd advise everyone to stockpile as much as they can, whenever they can.

I'm not talking some zombie outbreak shit or financial collapse, I'm just saying it's good doper practice. But, I know there is a large difference between doper practice and reality.

[Guts]

Hmmmm I guess I never really thought of natural disaster... hopefully at least the dope is still flying in if the meth' isnt.

[pODDity (OP)]

I used to have a hard time stock piling. Because I'd drink it all.. But I've finally learned some discipline in these last years.

[dysmorphic]

If the world does end then drugs will be obtained like most other things. Through violence. End of the world is going to be one of those "big things eating little things" situation. Best bet is to find half a dozen to a dozen like minded individuals, get a game plan for the day you foresee coming. I mean you'll need food, water, shelter, ways to protect yourself etc...

With that said, my lady and I have bottles and bottles of our pain meds stored away for safe keeping. Because you never know man...your are sure right about all this bat shit crazy terrorism crusade going down. Fuck me if it isn't a world war. There must be what 12 countries with troops on the ground somewhere in the Middle East at this very second?

World situation indeed...

[Guts]

Dude... Trump as President = World War 3. I called it and I want credit when it happens dammit. It's like a video game or something... a year ago Trump as president was a joke... I secretly am kinda rooting for it just to see shit fall apart.

[whiteheat]

Dude... Trump as President = World War 3. I called it and I want credit when it happens dammit. It's like a video game or something... a year ago Trump as president was a joke... I secretly am kinda rooting for it just to see shit fall apart.

Sorry but socialist views with either Hillary or Bernie will bring the end Donald will just strengthen the free market.  I don't understand how people can be for a democrat in this race...its a Nation built on capitalism and the free market, especially when we were better than all other countries at one point in time due to the freedom we had.. Now democrats want more of the state which has NEVER worked...  so they quickly jump to some old socialist that will make the ideas of freedom further than drug legalization.  It actually perturbed me to the point of being sick.  Our forefathers would shit if they heard a socialist was getting votes. socialism turns to communism and both love fascism enjoy the labor camps with Bernie. When has socialist view's worked??

[DeadCat]

So in this crazy world. And living in NYC  My biggest fear is some fucked up war/ bomb attack or some shit happening. And me getting fucked without methadone.  If a person was to have backup  MDne... What would be the best way to preserve it. Fridge? Freezer? Room temp? Or dry it out.?
 
Really the world is fucked. And US news doesn't show the half of it. I watch a lot of RT.
Def stresses me out. I'm sure Anybody on MMT can relate to the FEAR.

I suspect that like pharmacies, clinics get their drugs from discreet warehouses scattered around the metropolitain area they serve and probably keep about amonth's worth on hand as well. If anything big enough to disrupt the methodone supply occurs you are going to have A LOT more to worry about, like food and water in NYC.

If (when) things really start going to shit and they will eventually. It happens to all empires that overreach the people who will do best will live in small communities that can innnovate and adapt to become independent of necessiities coming in from far away in trucks and retailers using "Just In Time" inventory.

There are plenty of "survivalist" blogs but I find most of them more focussed on getting through the short term by being stockpiled and armed not changing to sustainable living. Ther is a very good blog by a Russian-born, American educated engineer named Dimitri Orlov http://cluborlov.blogspot.com he is very insightful and forward-thinking.

Seriously though as bad as things might get, there will be opiates around for a while but sooner or later you'll have to detox nd depending what "comfort meds" are available it will suck but you'll get past it. You won't die, you'll just wish you would.

[Guts]

Imagine telling that one to your kids... the time the world ended cuz Donald Trump was president and I kicked methadone... and shut up whiteheat... it is too gonna happen.

Really though... don't get me wrong. I'm not voting for him or her or anybody... I don't believe in the entire fucking system.

[Narkotikon]

In a short while I'll have stockpiled enough Subs to last a full calendar year if I kept taking my current dose. It would last much longer if I cut my dose in half, which would be entirely doable.

I encourage EVERYONE to stockpile something, even if it's just loperamide. Even though the world's end probably won't occur in your lifetime, you could very easily need to have a safety net at some point. Even if that's only for a personal reason that doesn't affect anyone else.

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I love most eras of history, but American history (and especially modern American history), isn't one of them. So you'll have to excuse me if I'm wrong.

But didn't the United States get out of the Great Depression because of FDR's New Deal (i.e., socialist) policies? And didn't those New Deal policies help to create the middle class in this country? 

I don't consider myself a Republican at all. I usually vote Democrat. But I'm also not an über, free for all, blind liberal. I believe some rules are necessary, especially if we're to live in a civilized society.

That being said, it appears to me that whenever most Republicans get into office, they tend to make laws and reforms that benefit business owners and, especially, the established wealthy.

I don't think Donald Trump would be any different. If anything, I think he'd be worse.

I don't understand why some people say Democrats, whether Clinton or Sanders, would ruin the country. And I'm not just specifically referring to WhiteHeat. Rather, anyone in general. What's wrong with a little socialism or federal control?

It seems to me a lot of Western Europe is socialist in nature, at least in part. Look at the Scandinavian countries. Those countries have some of the best social policies, and happiest / satisfied people, in the world.

I think when the average American hears "socialist," they automatically assume it means communist, Nazi, or fascist.

Personally, I have no problem having a strong, central, Federal government. We all live in the same country, therefore I think we should all have the same laws, as well as the same access to the same benefits and protections.

It seems very unfair to me when residents in one state can do X, whereas in another they can't, etc. If anything that seems very unequal and undemocratic to me.

It just seems like a lot of people who are against a strong Federal government tend to have a general distrust and dislike of any centralized authority, over them or otherwise.

[Sand and Water]

I recently visited the 3rd (guesstimating) circle of hell when the warehouse (that my pharmacy uses), computer crashed. Although my stuff isn't cheap by any means, b/c the pharmacy hires young folks to check you out when picking up prescription(s) AND they're the ones who count & match the inventory...of course my order never came AND b/c they're young & it was one of many, it just was a "task" to get done with & no one noticed. Yes, i got a huge apology from the head pharmacist, but that misery of withdrawal... sucked big time.

As well, my scrip is often only one or two (or even more fun, *the day*) days before I'm completely out. The above advice is excellent imo----If at all possible, STOCKPILE. Whether blizzard, hurricane or just eh i wanna go on break", it's just better to have that "cushion" imo

[thetalkingasshole]

Sorry but socialist views with either Hillary or Bernie will bring the end Donald will just strengthen the free market.  I don't understand how people can be for a democrat in this race...its a Nation built on capitalism and the free market, especially when we were better than all other countries at one point in time due to the freedom we had.. Now democrats want more of the state which has NEVER worked...  so they quickly jump to some old socialist that will make the ideas of freedom further than drug legalization.  It actually perturbed me to the point of being sick.  Our forefathers would shit if they heard a socialist was getting votes. socialism turns to communism and both love fascism enjoy the labor camps with Bernie. When has socialist view's worked??

When the free market can no longer support a MAJORITY of the people in it,
when you hear that paying people a living wage would ruin this system
does it make you feel good? Like: we need more of that! And less ecological regulations too!
Mother govt holding you back from maximizing your profit margin?

The government,  the UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
Is probably the most pro-business in history
In case you havent noticed, our current system of subsidies and loans means a lot of businesses are getting breaks
A LOT of fucking breaks
to the point where it looks eerily similar to fascism,  with the govt picking and choosing what to "subsidize"