Safer Fentanyl Extraction Techniques

[Fluffhead]

I posted a long reply on the fent brand topic by accident last night. Shoulda probably gone here. Short version, got some watson 50 gels would like to smoke remainder before trashing. Any tips/tricks on smoking. Last time I feel like I wasted it. Plz & thanks for the help. Message me if ya preffer. Maybe you guys will see them both or I can get Chipper to move & replace. Thanks for any help

[Thoms]

@Fluffhead the best thing to do is to let that gel dry to a fold and then run it on foil. Over time you can decide what shape works for you as far as the foil goes. I always liked sort of a long canoe shape except with the end folded back over my thumb to direct the vapor toward the pen. You just stuff the film back into that little cove. Just hold the lighter I would say two inches from the bottom and sort of breath out good before you light it so your lungs are empty to take a hit. Go slow. There is a small small line between felling high and falling out. I mean it's like half a hit. You rolly won't get much from one patch but that just depends on you tolly I guess. Good luck.

[theSWPK]

I posted a long reply on the fent brand topic by accident last night. Shoulda probably gone here. Short version, got some watson 50 gels would like to smoke remainder before trashing. Any tips/tricks on smoking. Last time I feel like I wasted it. Plz & thanks for the help. Message me if ya preffer. Maybe you guys will see them both or I can get Chipper to move & replace. Thanks for any help

This is for gel patches

Cut a tiny slit on one end of the gel patch, place on hard smooth surface like a table or counter. Place a piece of foil underneath the oatch  Use a credit card to push out every last bit of gel.

Make sure to press hard with the card. You'd be surprised how much can be left if you don't use enough force.

This works great for gel patches that have already been worn, especially the Watson gels.

[Thoms]

I meant a film not a fold.

[Lolleedee (OP)]

Hi all! Been checking out the post. For some good
info on fent patch extraction and doses etc, search
4 the PDF.' injecting fentanyl -minamising the odds'.
Its out if oz harm reduction. Cheers MHD.
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Thanks for the info. The title is injecting fentanyl-minimising the risks.

[Blue90]

Hello All, I have a quick question. Somehow, I bought oxys that are actually Fentanyl from my friend. Now I am aware of the danger of taking such a stronger class of narcotic. However, I have been taking it for several weeks now. The issue I have with these is the fact the compound mix is causing my nose to be completely clogged, and causing my throat to hurt. As a result from this issue, I am looking for a way I can extract the fentanyl strictly from the pill. Is there a way I can do a cold water extraction with this? Please let me know what materials I need, and the instructions for extracting the material.

[Thoms]

What is the binder? You should be able to pull with ISO I would imagine and then dry . Don't take my word for that though. Someone else needs to weigh in first. Also the bioavailability of fent nasally is very low. One you pull the fent you should smoke it. Be warned that it will be a whole fuck ton stronger however.

[Blue90]

Ok, could someone please give me some more details? I am not entirely sure what ISO is... I am assuming Rubbing alcohol?

[Chip]

not rubbing alcohol -- ISO is Propan-2-ol or Isopropyl alcohol / tape head cleaner for the oldies.

rubbing alcohol is 90% or less.

[Lolleedee (OP)]

@Thoma..I know you have a ton of fentanyl experience.  I've always loved it..my favorite!  I wanted to know if you have ever broken down the gel for injection.  I know you might not want that on the board, but I have someone who is going to do this and I think I need to give some harm reduction advice.  He is planning on using vinegar or vodka...I think that is vein suicide.  Do you have a more sterile technique?  Even if you want to message it to me.  I know people have different thoughts on having this information available.  My thought is people are going to try and they are going to kill themselves trying...like the two kids from my area who died trying to break it down with anti-freeze...one died..the other is in a permanent vegitative state, on a vent in a long care facility completely unresponsive!  I'm afraid using vinegar or vodka is going to produce the same results!

Thanks for any advice you can provide!

[Thoms]

Yes Christ both of those are shit ideas. There is no reason for the acidicness of conifer and I think shooting alcohol is pretty self explanatory. The gel for injection. Breaking down the gel to slam is where I got the ISO from for what the post a few above me from. Gel broken down with ISO and the that into water is how I would do it. That's if I were to do it which I never had. Make sure all the ISO is gone though as shooting that would be shit. I was always just happy to smoke it. Make sure to have a sitter and narcan on hand. The best results I ever had was from gel that had dried into a film. That was smoked on foil and it was hard to find that fine line. Anyway start low as fuck obviously.

[Thoms]

Btw opana blows fent way out of the water for me. Opana blows everything outta the water for me.
Fent was never really something that we choose, it came to us my a sort of bit of fate if you will. We didn't have anything else and somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 patches fell into our laps. We grew a tolerance that was out of this fucking world and we came very very close to killing ourselves on multiple occasions. I haven't really brought that up to anyone as it kind out sounds like I'm dick sizing. The reason I bring it up now is to tell people that your tolerance will continue to rise as far as you want to push it. Fucking up and up it will go. The only thing stopping it is you. So when you decide to dive head first into fent know that it will run you rampant. In a way that not many opiates will. Now I know that you have fucked with fent a good bit @Lolleedee but some of the other philes here haven't. In my opinion fent doesn't give very much euphoria compared to other opiates. Anyway I'm fucking babbling. To reiterate fent is on another level. IMO sort of like slamming your shit is. Be careful guys.

[Blue90]

Where do you find search things? I currently have 91% ISOpropyl Rubbing Alcohol

[Lolleedee (OP)]

Thanks, Thoms!  I have never injected fent either, except when given as a cocktail before surgery.  I think buccal use or smoking gives enough...slamming it is going to be a virtual nothing rush followed by virtual coma!  Unfortunately, people still try to do this stuff.  I don't think I would even try if it wasn't an ampule meant for injecting.

Anywho, I passed on the information with the disclosure that I think this is a fucking stupid move.  But, I can't really say much..in my active using days, I have done some pretty fucking stupid stuff...including trying my methadone in my PICC line.  I was amazed at the euphoria of pumping it all in at once...took mt breath away!  I actually did it twice, but I stopeed because I could see this becoming a real problem...once you start abusing maintenance med, where else do you have to go??  Also, I got a high fever both times (103.0).  The methadone we get is colorless and flavorless..It isn't the cherry crap with viscosity like syrup.  They mix it with water though and I have a feeling the microbes in the tap water were responsible for the fever...so no more experimenting for me!

Why did I go on that tangent? 

Anywho, hopefully this guy is going to change his mind about this.  People are always going to look for ways to get higher, hence why legalization and being able to purchase drugs of known purity, is the only way I think we will get ahead of this nightmare..and Narcan..lots of Narcan!

[Chip]

Where do you find search things? I currently have 91% ISOpropyl Rubbing Alcohol

Google isopropyl alcohol.

[Blue90]

So you use isopropyl alcohol to pour it on the pill and dissolve it? Then what? Do I get rid of the binders from it?