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Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« on: September 13, 2015, 01:10:06 AM »
Since I started living off my BF instead of working (not ready to jump back into DC's stress-pool), I've been occasionally doing fetish work. Dude wants me to meet him at a pretty upscale hotel to model stockings and hosiery for 1.5-2 hours for 200-350 USD. He was very clear he will not touch me and vice versa (" no sex, hand jobs, blow jobs, etc.) just take some photos of my legs and beat off. I'm thinking of having a male friend hang out in the hotel with the room number just in case. Sound good or not) suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 02:29:23 AM »
I see nothing wrong with it...you've done this before right? And I think having the guy friend close just in case is a good measure for safety concerns!!!
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 02:55:40 AM »
I'm not a female and i shouldn't be replying to this thread but.....

1. Yo where are you finding the hookups with the fetish work.....?  I need some extra income you should point me in the right direction

2. Even if your friend is in the hotel lobby, if something goes down in the hotel room, he would have no idea of knowing and would therefore be useless.  What if when you walk into the room, there are 3 guys instead of one, and thus you are coerced/restrained from running back out the door and taken advantage of/robbed/raped etc.

To prevent this I would do

3.  When you walk in go straight for the Bathroom to check and see if anyone else is in the room.  Don't put your whole self in the bathroom, just peep in maybe reach for the shower curtain and pull it back, if possible, without putting your whole body in the room and at an angle where you are sideways to the door (preventing someone from coming from behind you while you're checking out the room.  Then open the closets of the room.  This is assuming the room is a standard room where you can see the beds and entire room when you first walk in. 

NEVER LEAVE YOUR BACK EXPOSED.

4.  BRING A PHONE,  you can set it down on a table while doing your work, but explain to the client that you need it; don't say anymore.  It might kill the buzz of the client knowing you have a dude waiting outside, but, don't compromise on this.  If the client is insistent on you coming into the room without anything other than what was agreed upon (stalkings, garter belt whatever)...and won't even budge for you carrying a phone in, chances are you are being set up and you should DEFF. leave this gig alone/walk away. 

5. If something goes wrong, don't be afraid to scream like HELL when you are breaking free.  Don't let anyone intimidate you with threats of "ohhh police are coming if you scream and Im sure you don't want to be caught being a whore etc.", as we all know from the dope game people who bring extra attention towards law enforcement presence are ripping you off and in the process of setting you up. 

IF SOMEONE TRIES TO GRAB YOU/HOLD YOU/THROW YOU DOWN/PUT A GRIP ON YOU. 

LOWER your HIPS/Bring your center of gravity (your hips) as low as you can and press against his body while breaking free.  It's hard to explain with out showing, but, it looks like a female squatting when pissing except not COMPLETELY crouched, maybe a female GOING to piss stuck midway.  By lowering your center of gravity this way, you make it MUCH MUCH MUCH harder for someone to throw you or operate a "take-down" when they have a complete grip around your body.  This will look like grinding in a hip hop video, except with your back and head erect and straight upwards.  Push into his back with your hips while your legs are walking away, in crouching type position. 



I couldn't find a better picture, but the above picture is WHAT NOT TO DO IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOU DOWN.  The guy in this picture is about to EAT SHIT, BECAUSE HIS BODY IS COMPLETELY EXTENDED AND HIS ABDOMEN IS OPEN, ALLOWING SOMEONE TO EASILY THROW HIS VERY HIGH CENTER OF GRAVITY (IN THIS PICTURE IT'S HIS SHOULDERS) TO THE GROUND. 

Now, the person in this photo with the CAMO shorts, would NEED TO GRAPPLE FURTHER SO HE CAN STEP INWARDS, Thus re-arranging himself with his ass in the crotch off the assailant and then crouching down. Thus, lowering his center of gravity and making it much harder to be thrown.  Right now, in this photo, he is completely extended and like a column, so think, what is easier to be taken down and thrown over, a STONE STURDY COLUMN OR A TANK.    While you are crouching (this will kinda look like Grinding in a Hip Hop video, except your back will be straight and you will look like you are in mid shitting position) Keep yourself WALKING/PUSHING AWAY FROM THE ASSAILANT WHILE IN THIS POSITION AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WORK ON THEIR HANDS TO BREAK THEIR GRIP.  This could include pulling their fingers back to break them. 
By doing this, you will effectively be controlling the movement as your assailant will be unable to take you down and now needs to react to whatever you are doing (because of your wide legs in crouch position and low center of gravity creating a wide+low to the ground object to throw instead of a large tall extended one).

WHEN GRAPPLING ALWAYS GO FOR INSIDE CONTROL.  Notice in the above photo, the "assailant" ie the guy executing the take down is grabbing the dude from the inside of his shoulders, not the outside.  Inside control is essential.  Outside control doesn't exist, notice the camo shorts guy trying to grab the "outside" of his shoulders, is it helping him any?

 Keep in mind, ONCE YOU ARE THROWN TO THE GROUND YOU ARE AS GOOD AS DEAD.      If someone has that advantage over you, forget about getting away.  This is why this is so critical, and extremely important that any fighter knows NEVER TO BE TAKEN DOWN.  I don't care if you're Boxer #1 Champ, if you get taken down you're straight fucked. 

HOWEVER, if you have been taken down and AREN'T BEAT THE FUCK UNCONCIOUS YET,
GET TO YOUR STOMACH. NEVER FIGHT FROM YOUR BACK.  You are fucked if you do so.  Fight to get to your stomach, then once this is accomplished you need to try and get your knees under your stomach to allow you to spring up/stand up again. 

Be safe!  The best defense is knowing how to grapple, and how to not be taken down. 





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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 03:15:23 AM »
Kinda ironic this is in a section called the empowerment of women!
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 03:17:14 AM »
I vote very bad idea. No amount of $$ is worth your physical safety. If you don't know this dude, you have no idea if he only wants what he's telling you. You also have no way of knowing if he's got a gun or other weapons to force you to go along with something you don't want.  Your situation reminds me vividly of the Craigslist killer (& copycats). Too many probable issues IMO. No way does the risk come close to the reward. Just my .02  Please be safe.
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2015, 04:56:37 AM »
To the OP,

I had a guy that worked for me that made a lot of money doing
fetish work. All he had to do was ( an this is no lie ) undress,
lay on a message table and allow this guy to prance around the
table while jerking off. The funny part is that the guy was naked
and had a cork that had Peacock Feathers stuck in it plugged in
his ass while he was prancing around the table!

He was an older man and never tried anything. Please be very safe
and make sure that you have taken all measures that insure of
your safety. Explain that you reserve the right to call of the session
if you feel at all uncomfortable.. No questions asked... 

Peace,

Tony
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2015, 05:46:46 AM »
I vote very bad idea. No amount of $$ is worth your physical safety. If you don't know this dude, you have no idea if he only wants what he's telling you. You also have no way of knowing if he's got a gun or other weapons to force you to go along with something you don't want.  Your situation reminds me vividly of the Craigslist killer (& copycats). Too many probable issues IMO. No way does the risk come close to the reward. Just my .02  Please be safe.

I find that fetish work is much much much much safer, in terms of the clientele, than escort work.  My very close friends who I know a little too well  ;) may have done both; but I know they've never had a problem with fetish work.  In DC the sex industry is an EXTREMELY lucrative market, just make sure you have someone with you in case something goes wrong, and this person is suited and booted, andyou will be okay
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 06:54:08 AM »
I vote very bad idea. No amount of $$ is worth your physical safety. If you don't know this dude, you have no idea if he only wants what he's telling you. You also have no way of knowing if he's got a gun or other weapons to force you to go along with something you don't want.  Your situation reminds me vividly of the Craigslist killer (& copycats). Too many probable issues IMO. No way does the risk come close to the reward. Just my .02  Please be safe.

I find that fetish work is much much much much safer, in terms of the clientele, than escort work.  My very close friends who I know a little too well  ;) may have done both; but I know they've never had a problem with fetish work.  In DC the sex industry is an EXTREMELY lucrative market, just make sure you have someone with you in case something goes wrong, and this person is suited and booted, andyou will be okay

@Enduser-- my reply to the OP was that she doesn't know the "dude"; I made no distinction re: escort vs fetish "work".  If she doesn't know the guy, there's no way to know if he's just trying to lure her in & she's potentially walking into a dangerous situation.

Yes, the sex industry is a booming business nationwide, but the reality of getting hurt for us women is pretty well-known, so going in "blind" in the scenario she's asking about is too high a risk IMO.

Though there's no guarantee, the danger would hopefully be less if they know each other as you say you & your friends do.
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of lost door keys, the hour badly spent.
The art of losing isn't hard to master.
Then practice losing farther, losing faster:
places, and names, and where it was you meant
to travel. None of these will bring disaster.

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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2015, 08:54:47 AM »
You misread......I'm saying I'm extremely familiar with the sex industry, to say the least.  I don't hire escorts or do fetish work; someone who is very close to me, who knows me very well, very very very well, was on the supply/distribution side at some point in their life. 

I was just trying to say, that fetish work is markedly different from "escort" (prostitution) work, and in many respects "my very very very close friend" has found it to be much safer, possibly due to the expectation of it not involving sex, possibly due to the clientele I don't know.  I do know, however, that my "friend" has been put in really dangerous situations while escorting/engaging in prostitution, but never while doing fetish work. 

in the spirit of harm reduction, and knowing Anyong will most likely go through with it, I believe it's best to be prepared for whatever may happen, and going through the actions I listed above will greatly diminish the risk.  Pimps wouldn't exist if this shit was safe, so it's a given that working in any capacity through either fetish or escorting channels is dangerous. 

@Anyong, get back to your thread and PM me, see #1 I need bread homegurl, where are you finding fetish work?  CL or what?  CL is skimp on gigs for dudes  :-[
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2015, 09:28:13 PM »
Yes, there are always risks however, I don't find thus disempowering to women so long as it's consentual.

Think I've got a beefed up security plan too. We shall see.

Finally, I took a quick look at CL in DC and there are ads wanting male fetish workers. If your city is more DL, try Grinder.
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2015, 06:34:51 AM »
Yes, there are always risks however, I don't find thus disempowering to women so long as it's consentual.

Think I've got a beefed up security plan too. We shall see.

Finally, I took a quick look at CL in DC and there are ads wanting male fetish workers. If your city is more DL, try Grinder.

Hey girl - I'm not sure if you're thinking I made any remark about what you choosing to do being "disempowering", but I think it was someone's post before mine. I don't think it's my place to judge consensual acts between adults--just voiced my thoughts about the safety aspect.

Glad to hear you've got a safety plan you're comfortable with. Good luck!
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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 04:59:03 AM »
If anyone is considering something like this
And needs some basic practical safety tips for screening and meetings
I would be happy to share what I know, if you want to get in touch.
Be safe out there, y'all.

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Re: Ladies, is this a decent plan?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 11:07:15 AM »
Lol this thread just reminds me of what a birch sand and water was. Good riddance....
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