I'm going to be a toofless tweaker as 12 (all back teeth) gotta go !

[Daughter of Dionysus]

Hi Chipper, here I am the stereotypical Brit with bad teeth, here to make you feel better! I have full dentures top and bottom and its not so bad, honest.

I started with a partial denture at the top. I had a fall and lost three top front teeth (yes I was drunk) then my remaining teeth got looser and it was time to say goodbye to them in one foul swoop. Time for full dentures.

I'll be honest they do take a lot of getting used to and with a partial you will automatically still use your natural teeth to chew even though those natural teeth are front teeth and not designed for chewing.

I didn't use My dentures properly till I had a full set. Now I sleep in them (my moth feels as weird without them as it once felt with them) I can eat pretty much everything except bite into an Apple, can still snog (in case you wondered) and they look ok. Photo on profile page.Mine were free on the UK NHS so they are not by any means top of the range. No implants but don't need to use glue.

I was only 41 when I lost all of mine so yours lasted way longer than mine.

Don't beat yourself up. Any questions, give me a shout.

It's just a shame that we live in a society that Puts so much value
On people's looks
You are beautiful in my book poppy always have been.
Dental care is just way to expensive and we put
Such high value on that
When it's proven that a good mouth leads to a healthier life.

@Nick. Yea if you don't have implants then your diet changes to
I don't  know if I could do that because most off my protein comes from nuts.

I know people who are in the grips of agoraphobia. When they came out with that t.v add about what a tweakers smile looked like.

@opioette dental insurance is not a deal at all it doesn't cover shit
Is way to expensive and the deductibles are redickuless too.

Dental care should be free no matter what. It's kinda of a way to keep the classes separated. If you dint have a fabulous smile then you don't get very far in life. Kinda pro argument for burkas for everyone men and women. I wish people were taught to see people for who they are not just their bad habits and dental care.

I don't care for this. maybe Donald Thump will win the election and we can all be ompa lompas with great smile who get judged on what we have not what we do.

This is a great group we have here. We can be ourselfs and not be judged on our looks

@everyone
Me a DoD do talk to each other we just happen to be lying in bed
And posting on the same thread

I feel where you are coming from regarding the looks aspect, but it is also a health issue as well. With poor dental health, it affects the body as well...specifically the heart. There is a connection between the two. So in that regard, it costs more in the long run when things go untreated.

That is true Opi-ette
Although rare you can get bacterial endocarditis
Thru dental issues

But
In the society in which we live
If you don't have a damn near perfect smile
You are looked down upon a lot of times

Then
On the other hand
If you do have close to perfect teeth
Like I did thru all of my school years
People can treat you differently too
Especially if you carry yourself with ANY kind of confidence
Some seem to think that you think you are better than others
And label you as a bitch

#firstworldproblems

[Sand and Water]

I have implants too
I had to have my first one
On one of my front teeth
When I was in grade school
And got tripped on the ice by some kid and it broke my front tooth
Then I got hooked on fentynal lollipops
Which made my bottom teeth start to get cavities very badly
Other than drugs
My teeth are one thing I had spent the most money on

DoD (and anyone else w/experience), could you share about your experience with implants? I had 3 failed riot canals (back teeth) and have been told conflicting things like "Oh, it's great, no problems" and " I had it doe and both times my body rejected it", which I didn't even know was possible tbh. 

Also,  I know it's expensive, but I'm also concerned about the procedure itself-  since they go into your jawbone, is it as painful as a root canal? Worse? Does healing take a long time?

 Any info would really be appreciated as I'd like to get it done, but really have a hard time going to the dentist already--absolutely hate it, but if implants are worth it, I'd rather gut it out vs a partial! Many thanks for any info on this

[Anti-hero]

fuckin laptop (I had a responce and lost it)
DoD says
Its not as painful as a root canal
yes they do go into the bone
some teeth were as muck a 4k
they have a new opition called a mini
they are great for a starting opition
she would answer this herself
but she is locked in a words with freinds battle
(you should see the backflips I have to do to get her attention when she is locked in battle mode)
the pain really depends on the dentist as you get what you pay for
sometimes it really is worth the extra hundred to get the better doc
shop around and haggle with them
some of them really are hurting for bussiness
 any more I will difer to her

[Sand and Water]

fuckin laptop (I had a responce and lost it)
DoD says
Its not as painful as a root canal
yes they do go into the bone
some teeth were as muck a 4k
they have a new opition called a mini
they are great for a starting opition
she would answer this herself
but she is locked in a words with freinds battle
(you should see the backflips I have to do to get her attention when she is locked in battle mode)y
the pain really depends on the dentist as you get what you pay for
sometimes it really is worth the extra hundred to get the better doc
shop around and haggle with them
some of them really are hurting for bussiness
 any more I will difer to her

Thanks Hero & DoD for the info- very glad to hear it's not as bad as a root canal (they rarely can get me totally numb, even w-/Marcan cuz my facial nerves aren't usually in normal landmarks, so that's a relief to hear!

No rush but whenever y'all have the time, any info on how long it takes & what's involved (like multiple appts etc) would be really great to know.

Also, has anyone else heard about this rejection thing?  I'm wondering cuz if they dig down into the jawbone & this can happens, what's next? Do you have to wait weeks for it to heal before any other options like a bridge or a partial can be done?
Thanks again!

[suboxstitute]

fuckin laptop (I had a responce and lost it)
DoD says
Its not as painful as a root canal
yes they do go into the bone
some teeth were as muck a 4k
they have a new opition called a mini
they are great for a starting opition
she would answer this herself
but she is locked in a words with freinds battle
(you should see the backflips I have to do to get her attention when she is locked in battle mode)y
the pain really depends on the dentist as you get what you pay for
sometimes it really is worth the extra hundred to get the better doc
shop around and haggle with them
some of them really are hurting for bussiness
 any more I will difer to her

Thanks Hero & DoD for the info- very glad to hear it's not as bad as a root canal (they rarely can get me totally numb, even w-/Marcan cuz my facial nerves aren't usually in normal landmarks, so that's a relief to hear!

No rush but whenever y'all have the time, any info on how long it takes & what's involved (like multiple appts etc) would be really great to know.

Also, has anyone else heard about this rejection thing?  I'm wondering cuz if they dig down into the jawbone & this can happens, what's next? Do you have to wait weeks for it to heal before any other options like a bridge or a partial can be done?
Thanks again!

Just wanted to speak to the pain/suffering aspect + the rejection thing. 

My first implants were back in the mid 1990's.  Those are still holding strong, no rejection.   The rejection aspect comes into play since often, a bone graft needs to be done to build up the jaw bone so it can serve as a good anchor for the implant.   I've had two different really super oral surgeons; they both used bovine bone!   (One of my procedures was celebrated at work with a big picture of a cow saying "Good luck from your donor" .   Also, implants can become loose over time if you develop gum disease or something.  You have to be committed (IMO) to taking care of your teeth after implants since you don't want to screw w/your investment! 

IME..... implants are  much LESS painful than a root canal.   I've had implants done both using twilight anesthesthia  (out pretty cold) and local (was awake w/headphones, music, etc.)   Both were OK.   I really didn't have much pain afterwards but I tend to get kinda swollen up; my oral surgeon quite freely scripted percs (and refills) so I availed myself of those but didn't need them beyond day one.   

I've had other implants after that (~ 2008).  Mine were all traditional  (not the new "mini" or get it done in a day procedure).   Typically they placed the implant, wait 4-6 months to make sure it's all stable, and then go back for the crown.

Very expensive but so very worth it.    So important as Hero said to pay for a good oral surgeon with a shitload of experience; SO important.  You def get what you pay for.   

Yes, I def have the value of a super-nice vehicle in my mouth.   It is ludicrous that dental is separate from medical since dental probs can fuck up your whole system big time. 

Agree w/Hero (I think it was him) that it's really a way to separate the classes; there's been studies done about the difficulty of  getting professional jobs w/bad teeth.

[Daughter of Dionysus]

fuckin laptop (I had a responce and lost it)
DoD says
Its not as painful as a root canal
yes they do go into the bone
some teeth were as muck a 4k
they have a new opition called a mini
they are great for a starting opition
she would answer this herself
but she is locked in a words with freinds battle
(you should see the backflips I have to do to get her attention when she is locked in battle mode)y
the pain really depends on the dentist as you get what you pay for
sometimes it really is worth the extra hundred to get the better doc
shop around and haggle with them
some of them really are hurting for bussiness
 any more I will difer to her

Thanks Hero & DoD for the info- very glad to hear it's not as bad as a root canal (they rarely can get me totally numb, even w-/Marcan cuz my facial nerves aren't usually in normal landmarks, so that's a relief to hear!

No rush but whenever y'all have the time, any info on how long it takes & what's involved (like multiple appts etc) would be really great to know.

Also, has anyone else heard about this rejection thing?  I'm wondering cuz if they dig down into the jawbone & this can happens, what's next? Do you have to wait weeks for it to heal before any other options like a bridge or a partial can be done?
Thanks again!

Just wanted to speak to the pain/suffering aspect + the rejection thing. 

My first implants were back in the mid 1990's.  Those are still holding strong, no rejection.   The rejection aspect comes into play since often, a bone graft needs to be done to build up the jaw bone so it can serve as a good anchor for the implant.   I've had two different really super oral surgeons; they both used bovine bone!   (One of my procedures was celebrated at work with a big picture of a cow saying "Good luck from your donor" .   Also, implants can become loose over time if you develop gum disease or something.  You have to be committed (IMO) to taking care of your teeth after implants since you don't want to screw w/your investment! 

IME..... implants are  much LESS painful than a root canal.   I've had implants done both using twilight anesthesthia  (out pretty cold) and local (was awake w/headphones, music, etc.)   Both were OK.   I really didn't have much pain afterwards but I tend to get kinda swollen up; my oral surgeon quite freely scripted percs (and refills) so I availed myself of those but didn't need them beyond day one.   

I've had other implants after that (~ 2008).  Mine were all traditional  (not the new "mini" or get it done in a day procedure).   Typically they placed the implant, wait 4-6 months to make sure it's all stable, and then go back for the crown.

Very expensive but so very worth it.    So important as Hero said to pay for a good oral surgeon with a shitload of experience; SO important.  You def get what you pay for.   

Yes, I def have the value of a super-nice vehicle in my mouth.   It is ludicrous that dental is separate from medical since dental probs can fuck up your whole system big time. 

Agree w/Hero (I think it was him) that it's really a way to separate the classes; there's been studies done about the difficulty of  getting professional jobs w/bad teeth.

This is ALL about exactly the same as my experience
I didn't get put under
I didn't it with local anesthetic
I'm deeply terrified of Being put under

I wasn't informed of the rejection thing
But my oral surgeon did a thorough examination of my bone
And said I have really good bone structure

I've never had any problems with the one
That I've had since grade school
I am pretty careful with it

It is in no way
As painful as a root canal

My healing time was pretty much the same
Same amount of appointments too (IIRC)

You defo get what you pay for

I'm with you Suboxtitute
In that I have at least a decent used car
In my mouth
It is one thing that's defo worth it
Having a nice smile goes a long way


It sucks but it's true

[monkawat]

This shit makes me glad I have only had one cavity in my life (funny enough it was this year) and that I haven't had to endure all these painful ass procedures...

I wish you a good speedy recovery chip

[Shelley]

I too am a tweaker stereotype
I only have front teeth
The rest are fake
Can't wait to get the front ones done

[_Enduser]

I'm deeply terrified of Being put under

Me too!  Is it 'cause you're a control freak?  I'm not but I'm a consciousness control freak, which is why I hate drinking but like (smoking) meth and opiates and even benzos (not mixed with alcohol)

[Daughter of Dionysus]

I'm deeply terrified of Being put under

Me too!  Is it 'cause you're a control freak?  I'm not but I'm a consciousness control freak, which is why I hate drinking but like (smoking) meth and opiates and even benzos (not mixed with alcohol)

Ya know
I never really thought about it
But it most likely is because I am
A control freak
There is so much in life
That I know I can't control
So I control what I can

[Badly Drawn Girl]

Since getting on MMT 6 years ago, my teeth have literally disintegrated.  I'm a mouth breather to begin with and with the 'done my mouth is SO dry all the time.  It's shocking to me what has happened in my mouth.  It's so embarrassing to have bad teeth.  I'm hoping to get these pulled and get dentures sometime next year.  What really sucks is how many things I cannot chew anymore.  I miss chewing normally.  It's the one thing about myself I wish I could change...

[Anti-hero]

I think damage to your teeth
Is the one physical draw backs
To long term opiates

And people put way to much
On others smiles.

[BamaPainGurl]

I can totally relate. I have lost all my back ones and am embarrassed from a broken front tooth (won't get it pulled for the hole, it breaks more every day, but no way to get the partial yet). Mine is from strictly opiates, had great teeth until pain management.

Oh, and DoD, I love words with friends! My hubs feels like hero when I'm into a game and he is speaking to me..."huh?wha?" Lol

[Chip (OP)]

It's very upsetting to have them removed but I guess there's always hidden prices if you want to play.

opiates and Stims both dry your mouth out.

[Daughter of Dionysus]

@Bamapaingurl I loled
At your words with friends comment
I promise it's not as extreme
As he says :-P

@Chipper
It does suck
But I lost one of my front teeth
In grade school
And you can barely tell
I've went into the extent of my dental work in this thread
Thank you very much
For the comment you left hero
Re: my smile

The one good thing
Is you won't have to go thru it again

[Anti-hero]

I can totally relate. I have lost all my back ones and am embarrassed from a broken front tooth (won't get it pulled for the hole, it breaks more every day, but no way to get the partial yet). Mine is from strictly opiates, had great teeth until pain management.

Oh, and DoD, I love words with friends! My hubs feels like hero when I'm into a game and he is speaking to me..."huh?wha?" Lol

The great thing is that is not an issue
here
Your words with friends habbit
well thats another thing
and yes it is bad
she wont admit it
like trying to get an alcoholic
to admit they got a prolbem

they wont be ready until
they are ready