A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?

[Jega]

@Esoteric Anhydride  Great Post!

[Esoteric Anhydride]

I agree with you but I think you're taking it a bit far.  I assumed that most people would take something with flames shooting out of it off the heat.  You're probably right that some wouldn't.  I didn't suggest heating it over a candle.  I just tried to give some safety tips since someone else talked about doing it over candles.  That's actually the definition of harm reduction I think.  If you're going to do it then be careful like this.

assuming they made it that far before the vessel failed, or wasted precious seconds as the fire started feeding itself  (wet towel!), etc..

While they may only need a ml, that ml has to come from somewhere - frequently it comes from a bigger bottle that could easily be left open, accidentally knocked over...  see where I'm going here?

Suggesting an oil bath on a drug forum seems a bit much.  I would probably suggest a hot glass of tap water before that.  Let's be honest though and realize that most addicts would heat a spoon full of rubbing alcohol with a lighter and then wonder why there is liquid fire everywhere.  I just wanted to prepare people for what heating it over a candle was and give some super basic advice.  I'll add take it off the heat just for you.  My opinion of people's intelligence must be a bit too high.

Interesting post. First, addicts are dumb and do dumb things. Then you give us all some BS line about preparing people for (...what, kitchen fires?); then you wrote:

I just wanted to prepare people for what heating it over a candle was and give some super basic advice.

then you wrote that you must think too highly of peoples' intelligence.

Dude, are you on drugs?

You actually wrote that? And posted it? But yet we're supposed to respect your words here. Srsly if that isn't the biggest pile of bullshit on the Internet, it's the second -- I'm impressed, Z, that was about as moronic a statement (backpedal) I believe I've read in quite a long time. Do you... think much about what you post, or even at all, ever??

Aaaaand I did suggest water, I suggested a bunch of things and water was the first -- plagiarize much? Or I bet it's that you really don't read very carefully, maybe that's it, you don't comprehend writing well -- you sure you're up for this job??

Also, we aren't talking about lab work.  We are talking about less then a ml of alcohol that he wants to evaporate.  Nobody is doing that in boro labware on a drug users forum *(and you know this how??)*.  I think you lost perspective of the question while you were trying to explain your anger.

Tempting to ask why you always seem to think I'm angry, I'm high, happy and typing a post -- do I really seem angry to you, or is that just a convenient fantasy of yours?

Also, my perspective is sound. You my friend, appear in need of a search team.

Stop trying to pick a fight with me man.  I'm really not interested. [sic]

Stop trying to pick a fight with me man.  I'm really not *interesting.

FTFY! Also, if you'd managed to read AND comprehend my post; you might notice that I wrote I'm not here looking to fight with people or troll the board. You miss that part? That's convenient.. I also noticed you missed or ignored my apology, you're a class act, ain't ya Z?

I find this last little quip really telling: my posts here in this thread have *nothing* to do with you (nor was it you that inspired me to post here), and *everything* to do with safety (which BTW, you haven't a clue to what level some kid reading here might try and scale the tek discussed, so really, you know jack shit about what people are doing with this information -- stop assuming, you've admitted you do this like 3x in this thread alone and it's *beyond* irresponsible -- to assume anything period is just flat naive, Mr. HR Administrator).

So, am I out of line telling people to not be stupid and offering alternate suggestions? Spending 5 minutes with some oil and maybe making a small mess to clean is pretty cheap insurance again fire or explosion -- if you disagree, then IMO you have *ZERO* business fucking with solvent extractions or acting as an an admin where people come with such questions.

On safety/HR (this is the board topic, right? HR?); going into the reasons for my posting in this particular thread; to assume I'm posting here simply to fuck with you, is like Nark-level paranoid. Maybe you should have someone check your head, Z, you do seem a little 'noided..

Tempted to take my apology back, but nah, it stands -- who knows where those nappy ass paws of yers been anyway big guy -- I'm not sure I do..

[Z]

Congrats chops.  You win.  Please live out your happy life and stop trying to tear apart the minutiae of my posts.

You don't have to look up to me or respect me or even listen to me.  I'm just a guy that offered to help out here.  That doesn't turn me into anything special.  Funny fact: you voted for me.  I'm still scratching my head at that one.

Again, I really don't want to fight with you.  If you are going to start picking apart all of my posts to attack me then you would be better off ignoring me. Of you want to talk about uninteresting then this is it man.

Edit:  I like how you attack me and not the person who brought up heating alcohol over an open flame.  It really shows your motivation here

[Esoteric Anhydride]

Congrats chops.  You win.  Please live out your happy life and stop trying to tear apart the minutiae of my posts.

Jesus you sure can whine, can't you? Bet that bullshit goes great with a nice cuppa... bullshit and cheesy whine.

Are you sure you're cut out for this position? Really sure??

You don't have to look up to me or respect me or even listen to me.

you damned skippy cupcake.

That doesn't turn me into anything special.  Funny fact: you voted for me.

And?? AFAIC, you did ok before. Certain people I couldn't be paid to vote for because I think they're very poorly-qualified for various reasons. This didn't leave me many more choices. Unfortunately IMO, most of the people truly worthy of running this place the job are MIA -- truth is tho, and even despite this fun we've been having: given the same list, I might make the same choices, because -- now listen closely: handling personality conflicts are part of this job, and if you can't tip-toe around or through conflict; you're gonna have a hard time on a busy board.

FWIW and IMO, if you want my vote again, well, you might have to get a clue and pull that pine cone (or w/e) out yer ass, and also step it up cos AFAIC, you walked right into this one, but handled yourself like shit.

So, did you go through all the ballots and see who did and didn't vote for you? I suspect many professionals psychs might consider this pathological behavior, which would make some sense IMO. You won, why do you care who voted for you? Do you plan to leverage this information, seriously: what do you stand to gain by knowing who voted for you?
 
Maybe you really should go find a head-shrink?

Again, I really don't want to fight with you.  If you are going to start picking apart all of my posts to attack me then you would be better off ignoring me. Of you want to talk about uninteresting then this is it man.

I won't ignore dangerous bullshit, I'd sooner step in and attempt to do what I can to fix the bullshit that you overlooked.

And bitching about "picking apart posts" is hypocritical rhetoric; quit crying so much and stand behind what you post, you're acting like a pussy.

Edit:  I like how you attack me and not the person who brought up heating alcohol over an open flame.  It really shows your motivation here

More whine plz? Show me where I attacked you first.

Aww Z, you have such shiny, soft, moist skin; has it always been so... sssensitive?

If you truly can't comprehend the *reasoning* behind the difference in how I address you and OP; you're even dumber than I originally thought..

edit: @Z : I just ran my thoughts regarding your confession of reading the votes, by my friend; and we agree: really, it's pretty sick behavior IMO -- if this were my show that info *would not* be available -- what good could possibly come of it? Now ask yourself the same question from the other perspective -- what bad could come from knowing that?

IMO and in all honesty, given what I just read; I'd consider the election bogus. Seriously why would he do that? If I wanted the job and wanted to run it fair & square: I wouldn't want to know the results, period. How could he possibly remain un-biased with that knowledge?

[Tainted]

Time out maybe? OP dissolved his shot already, safety has been addressed, maybe we should just leave it at that?

[Esoteric Anhydride]

Time out maybe? OP dissolved his shot already, safety has been addressed, maybe we should just leave it at that?

I agree, time out.

Z, STFU, go sit in the corner, and stay there.

...fkn admins man, but what ya gonna do? Can't shoot 'em..

:shrug:

[Jega]

I thought it was a private poll...

[Tainted]

I thought it was a private poll...

I assumed that but at same time I can see admins being able to see it unless someone coded the ability to hide that feature from even admins for specific posts.

[Z]

I didn't read the votes and make a list.  It was a casual thing to be honest.  I can see how that would look differently.  I shouldn't have said that, but it popped out at me and I thought it was funny. 

If you think I'm inappropriate here then talk to chopper about it.  If that's what people want I have no problem stepping down.  I think it's a bit out of proportion, but I can understand that.

I'm not holding anything against anyone.  The only name I noticed was chops and that was only because of what happened.

[Esoteric Anhydride]

FWIW, I cast that vote before the last scrap we had - so, IOW, well away from any recent friction between us (that I remember anyway, but my memory problems are like clinically bad).

That said, I'm well capable of putting personal issues aside and making a vote for (IMO) the sake of the community, and aside of my personal gripes.

IMO the votes should have been private, and IMO again: giving winners and losers the voting records, is a *major* fuckup; like I can't believe ya'll really did that shit; whether it was Z on his own or all ya'll mfrs, that's just straight fucked up.

That shit should have been private, period --this time fuck an opinion, that's just some straight-up *wrong*

For the sake of the community, MO would be to ditch that vote and re-do it; again. But this ain't my community (meaning, I'm not involved in admin shit).

[Z]

Nobody gave anybody voting records. The vote was a forum poll.  I know that you understand what that means.

I clicked on a link and it showed who voted for what.  I saw your name and thought it was funny because you were in the middle of getting pissed off at me and misunderstanding who I am and what I meant.  There is no sinister conspiracy going on here, and I don't mean any offense by saying that.

I'm sure if you can find a better way or want to write a custom module for the vote we would use it.  Fwiw I didn't like many things about the way it was run either.  I didn't like that the results were available before it finished.  People could have encouraged people to vote or done things they wouldn't otherwise have done.

[dizzle]

...fkn admins man, but what ya gonna do? Can't shoot 'em..

:shrug:

Hey man what did I do?


That's a joke. I don't want to step into the line of fire here so, carry on, or don't, you're both adults and longtime  trusted members so I'm not gonna tell you how to talk/act, just keep it above the belt is all I ask....

[Esoteric Anhydride]

pissed off at me

Z, there's a really big difference between "getting pissed off at you," and thinking you're a tool.

Do you understand that difference? Can we move on from this, good, because anger -- as you've repeatedly accused me of -- is NOT part of the picture here. The issue is, I think you're a tool.

Get it now, or do I need to go deeper?

I maintain that viewing election results runs way too much risk of injecting bias -- I don't see how anyone could call it a fair contest..

Maybe you guys should just cough up for the VB license, now that the honey jar is full again (?)?

[Z]

Lets just move on.  I'm sure we both know how the other feels about us and neither of us cares in the least.  I did over react a bit, but I think you did as well.  This whole thing is out of proportion a bit to the actual thread and discussion.  I'm sorry that it went this far. 

I maintain that viewing election results runs way too much risk of injecting bias -- I don't see how anyone could call it a fair contest..Maybe you guys should just cough up for the VB license, now that the honey jar is full again (?)?

Not my decision.  I don't actually like the whole voting for mods bit.  I suggested that a board of directors be elected with 10 or so members who would oversee decisions for the appointed mods and admins.  If someone stepped out of line they could vote to replace them.  If someone dissapears they could appoint someone else. 

[Esoteric Anhydride]

Word.