Methamphetamine User Tools

[Chip (OP)]

I have found that Anti-Psychotics to be effective "tools" for dealing with the unpleasant side effects of Methamphetamine use.

Not only do they help promote sleep but i believe that they provide protection against the neurotoxicity of powerful stimulants.

As Methamphetamine usage increases, i hope that more of these types of drugs become more available.

My preference is using both Olanzapine and Quetiapine.

Your comments are welcome.

[Queenofdenial]

Thanks for posting that info Chipper. Now I can pass it on to my friend that can't seem to get off this drug alone.

He keeps saying "Oh, I know what to do, and I'm going to stop next week, blah, blah, blah,......then next week rolls around and he is either in jail with his boyfriend, sleeping for 4 days, or fighting with the police.

It is horrible to see this happening to him at this point in his life.  Actually (myself included) we think he may have a death wish. Because everything he is doing is getting him closer and closer to dying.

It is just unbearable to witness.

Thanks again,
  love,
             ~QoD

[Chip (OP)]

QOD, i have a simple rule - if i am around users that are suffering negative consequences, i simply tell them exactly how it ends - in tears.

if they keep on using the drug daily then i don't want to be around them.

i use weekly/fortnightly and i get to not only enjoy my drugs BUT i also participate in reality.

"less is more" ... weekly use not only WORKS WELL but it also is affordable.

pass my thoughts onto him if you wish.

[Narkotikon]

Good info, Chipper.  I can definitely see how anti-psychotics (especially the newer atypicals) are beneficial to stimulant users.  They're essentially dopamine inhibitors, whereas stimulants increase dopamine.  So yeah, I can see how they'd be useful for over-stimulation, sleeping, neuroprotection, etc.

Personally, I don't like anti-psychotics.  But then again, I don't use stimulants all that often.  The last time I used coke was over three years ago.  And even then it was only a very occasional thing.  Not daily, weekly, monthly by any measure.  The last time I smoked crystal was ten years ago.  And even then I had only done it like three or four times in my life.   

I was prescribed Risperdal, Geodon, and Abilify in my early 20's for anxiety and "anger" issues.  Honestly, I don't think they worked for that.  I pretty much assumed I was being given them in lieu of a more traditional benzo because of my history and / or age.  For me, they just made me very dysphoric, sleepy, and made me "zombified."  I can not express how much I did not like those meds. 

I've heard Seroquel is different, in that it's not as bad, but I've never taken that.  If it's better tolerated, that's great.  Another use for these drugs is Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder.  I can totally see why those types of patients are often not med-compliant.  Who in the hell wants to take meds that make them feel like shit, even if they help them in the long run. 

Regardless of my experience with them, I'm glad anti-psychotics are helpful to you and other stimulant users. 

[Chip (OP)]

Since I have discovered and successfully used Pregablin and other Gabapentinoids, I am now adding this to my arsenal.

They are generally not documented yet work as POWERFUL antagonists to stimulants that work far better than anti psychotics but do come with a much greater risk of addiction so much caution is advised.

The rapid tolerance tolerance to the drug gives you an idea of their addictiveness as many if not most of you recognise the same bodily response to and with opiates and benzodiazepines ... but without the euphoria !

Lyrica is still generally not seen as a tightly controlled drug with a high potential for abuse but that is changing.

Stimulant users, as well as opiate users in withdrawal can both benefit from these Calcium channel blockers.

I know that I keep banging on about this shit but I only do so because despite having low levels of euphoria, they are just so handy for pain management as well.

It would be unwise and foolish to mix them with opiates and/or alcohol (Google search for such hospitalisations). I can't see my recreational benefit.

So that makes them a very practical tool.

[skyhiatrist]

Ya Chip sorry to barge in but don't post alot and have trouble figgerin where to put my questions. Can only pickup shit fent around the island I'm on.I have a script for Quetiapine and am curious if it can be fixed once cleaned up and powdered as a mellow edge to this shit "down" we get that is really buggy?? Live west of Nanaimo so it is real tough to get any shit worth while, Thanks   Skyhiatrist.

[Chip (OP)]

All good, skyhigh.

I have IV'ed Quetiapine but there is no benefit from doing so that I found.

Just take it orally is my suggestion.