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Core Topics => Drugs => Antihistamines => Topic started by: smfadmin on February 17, 2026, 07:04:31 PM
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Promethazine for Sleep (Adults)
Dose
• Typical dose: 12.5–25 mg taken 30–60 minutes before bed
• Upper end: 25 mg is where most people cap it for insomnia
• Do NOT exceed: 50 mg for sleep — above this you mostly get side effects, not better sleep
What it actually does
• Sedating first-generation antihistamine, not a true hypnotic
• Useful for short-term knock-out sleep, jet lag, or when anxiety/nausea is involved
• Tolerance can build quickly if used nightly
Common side effects
• Next-day grogginess / brain fog
• Dry mouth, constipation, blurred vision
• Restless legs or paradoxical agitation in some people
• Can worsen urinary retention
Important warnings
• Do NOT mix with alcohol, opioids, benzos, GHB/BDO, or other sedatives
→ increased risk of respiratory depression
• Can potentiate antipsychotics and other dopamine blockers
• QT prolongation risk at higher doses or in combination stacks
Bottom line
• Start at 12.5 mg
• If ineffective, try 25 mg max
• If you need more than that to sleep, promethazine is the wrong tool
Me: Promethazine 50 mg — No Effect
This is not unusual
Taking 50 mg and feeling nothing happens to a lot of people.
It’s not a sign you need more — it’s a sign the drug likely doesn’t work for you.
What it likely means
• Promethazine simply does not produce sedation in some individuals
• Increasing the dose rarely helps once 25–50 mg has failed
• You may have cross-tolerance or blunted response from:
– other sedating antihistamines
– antipsychotics / dopamine blockers
– stimulants (current or residual)
• Some people have a neutral or paradoxical response (no sedation at all)
Mechanism mismatch
Promethazine works via H1 histamine blockade.
If insomnia is driven by:
• dopaminergic rebound
• noradrenergic activation
• circadian disruption
…histamine antagonism won’t touch it.
What NOT to do
• Do NOT escalate beyond 50 mg
• Do NOT stack with alcohol, benzos, opioids, GHB/BDO, or other sedatives
→ this increases respiratory depression risk without guaranteeing sleep
Bottom line
• If 50 mg does nothing, promethazine is non-viable for you
• Higher doses mostly add anticholinergic side effects, not sleep
• This is a binary drug — it either works early or it doesn’t
Alternatives to Promethazine for Sleep
1. Sedating Antihistamines
• Diphenhydramine – 25–50 mg 30–60 min before bed
• Doxylamine – 12.5–25 mg before bed
• Same caveats as promethazine: next-day grogginess, anticholinergic side effects, do not mix with other sedatives
2. Melatonin & Circadian Support
• Melatonin 0.5–5 mg 30–60 min before desired sleep
• Useful for circadian misalignment, jet lag, or delayed sleep phase
• Combine with sleep hygiene: dark room, avoid screens, consistent bedtime
3. Low-Dose Sedating Medications (Prescription)
• Trazodone – 25–100 mg at night, sedating antidepressant
• Mirtazapine – 7.5–15 mg for sleep; more potent at higher doses
• Often used short-term; monitor for next-day grogginess or weight/appetite changes
4. GABAergic Agents (If Not Mixing with Other Depressants)
• L-theanine, valerian, magnesium glycinate – mild, generally safe
• Avoid combining with alcohol, benzos, opioids, BDO/GHB
• Effect is subtle; good for easing into sleep rather than knocking out
5. Behavioral / Environmental
• Keep a strict bedtime/wake time
• Limit caffeine after midday
• Dark, cool, quiet room
• Avoid screens 1 hour before sleep
• Consistency often more powerful than drugs alone
Bottom line
• If promethazine fails, try an approach based on mechanism (histamine, melatonin, GABA, or circadian)
• Avoid stacking multiple sedatives for brute-force sleep
• Start low, track effect, and adjust cautiously
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High-Dose Phenergan (Promethazine) for Sleep
Dose and Effects
• Typical sleep dose: 12.5–25 mg
• Max for sleep: 50 mg
• 125 mg is 2–5× the normal dose — this is why it produces noticeable sedation
Risks of High Doses
• Strong sedation — can feel like heavy grogginess or almost “knockout”
• Anticholinergic overload: dry mouth, blurred vision, constipation, urinary retention
• Cognitive impairment: confusion, memory issues, next-day fog
• Cardiac risk: possible QT prolongation, especially if combined with other meds
• Respiratory depression risk if combined with alcohol, opioids, benzos, or GHB/BDO
Key Points
• Feeling sedation at 125 mg is expected — it’s essentially a high-dose effect, not a normal sleep dose
• No additional sleep quality benefit occurs beyond the sedation — only side effects increase
• Do NOT escalate doses for “stronger sleep” — the danger rises much faster than any benefit
Harm Reduction Advice
• Stick to 12.5–50 mg if using for sleep
• Avoid combining with other sedatives
• Track effects and side effects carefully
• If 50 mg does nothing, consider alternative approaches rather than escalating the dose