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Title: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on April 14, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
source: http://lawnewz.com/crazy/sheriffs-office-wants-meth-users-to-bring-drugs-in-for-testing-wait-what/

Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?

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A Missouri sheriff’s office is making a bizarre offer to local meth users. A post on the Christian County Sheriff’s Office’s Facebook page warns that methamphetamine brought in or with ingredients from Texas may be contaminated with Staph or Hepatitis C. Not only that, they’re asking users to bring their supply straight to their office for screening. The post says, “If a positive test is detected using our test ampules, a 100% safe collection will take place by our trained Deputies.”

So many questions!

First, what is a safe collection? Second, what happens to the drugs that test negative? Third, this is a joke, right?

The whole thing sounds like a scheme to trap drug users into showing up with their stash so they can get arrested for possession, or at the very least, get drugs off the street. I have more questions.

First, are people getting arrested if they heed the warning? Second, are people actually showing up for this?

LawNewz.com reached out to the Christian County Sheriff’s Office for some answers, but so far we’ve got nothing. The kind woman who answered chuckled when told the call was about the meth screening, and transferred the call to the appropriate officer. It went straight to voicemail.

UPDATE: 6:30 We spoke with Lt. Lofton with the Christian County Sheriff’s Office. He told us the following:

1) In terms of arresting people who brought in drugs, he says it depends on “the totality of the situation.” It depends on if someone was a repeat offender, the amount they had, if they were selling, or if they just found the drugs and were turning them in. His office would question them and see what the situation is. They also wouldn’t arrest anyone right then and there, because the substances would need a lab test before they can arrest them. He said in theory, they could hold someone until they get the results, but that’s not the plan for this operation.

2) Not a single person has shown up.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Z on April 14, 2016, 10:56:13 AM
A safe collection followed by a deposit into a cell.  Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on April 14, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
isn't this illegal ? it certainly is unethical, designed to catch the weak and gullible.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Z on April 14, 2016, 11:29:22 AM
It's not entrapment for sure, and it has been ruled right up to the supreme court in the us that police can lie to do their jobs.  They can sit you in a room for two days and tell you that your family are dead, and your wife already confessed to whatever so you might as well tell the truth.  Is it sick and depraved?  Absolutely.  Is it legal?  Unfortunately the answer seems to be yes.

Playing on a drug addicts fear is just encouraging criminals to turn themselves in according to the police perspective.  It's a sad, and unfortunate world that we live in,isn't it?
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: smalls on April 14, 2016, 08:07:59 PM
Sounds like this, posted by Taytoechip:

http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,2501.0.html

Except in this ^^ one, they were "testing for Ebola" not Hep C.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: smalls on April 14, 2016, 08:12:01 PM

UPDATE: 6:30 We spoke with Lt. Lofton with the Christian County Sheriff’s Office. He told us the following:

1) In terms of arresting people who brought in drugs, he says it depends on “the totality of the situation.” It depends on if someone was a repeat offender, the amount they had, if they were selling, or if they just found the drugs and were turning them in. His office would question them and see what the situation is. They also wouldn’t arrest anyone right then and there, because the substances would need a lab test before they can arrest them. He said in theory, they could hold someone until they get the results, but that’s not the plan for this operation.

2) Not a single person has shown up.

RE: the bolded... Does it really matter if the substance they bring in is truly meth? People are arrested on drug charges even if what they're selling is fake. Could a person be charged with possession because they think they are holding dope, even if it's fake?
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on April 14, 2016, 08:43:14 PM
I'd say yes to that ... it's all about their perception. I could be wrong ...
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: MoeMentim on April 14, 2016, 08:48:17 PM
How about this - someone starts a company & advertises that they will happily test illegal drugs for potency and contaminants, bring 'em in!  Think said company wouldn't get charged with a crime?  Fucking cops.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: theSWPK on April 14, 2016, 11:04:27 PM
How about this - someone starts a company & advertises that they will happily test illegal drugs for potency and contaminants, bring 'em in!  Think said company wouldn't get charged with a crime?  Fucking cops.

Companies like The Bunk Police test folks drugs at festivals all over the country.

There's also a few online companies that will test your mdma and let you know if it's adulterated and/or dangerous. These guys seem to get on alright.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Z on April 15, 2016, 12:41:46 AM
Dance safe says this on their site:


Quote
Onsite Pill Testing
When approved by the promoters, DanceSafe provides pill testing services directly from our harm reduction booths at electronic music events. Since 1999, we have tested thousands of ecstasy tablets at hundreds of events in over a dozen cities across the US and Canada. During this time, neither DanceSafe staff members nor volunteers have ever been arrested for providing this service, nor have any users been arrested at our booth while having their pill tested. When possible, we obtain the cooperation of local public health departments.
Fearful of federal “Rave Act” laws that can hold event organizers and venue owners liable for drug use at their events, many promoters feel uncomfortable having us provide pill testing services. We always respect the wishes of promoters and never test pills without their approval. We believe the Rave Act is a regressive law that should be overturned. Drug use cannot be stopped. It takes place everywhere——at sporting events, in public parks, and inside private homes——as much or more so than it does in electronic music events. Only by acknowledging reality can we implement policies that protect public health and safety, and the Rave Act prevents this from happening.


I guess that they operate in a bit of a grey area.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Tainted on December 26, 2018, 10:39:46 AM
isn't this illegal ? it certainly is unethical, designed to catch the weak and gullible.

It is most definitely legal in the United States. I've heard this same story in the news before, but they arrested every person that walked in. Similar story they had a drive to get illegal guns off the street, wanted people to walk in and turn over unregistered weapons. While there were some people turning in antiques, most people just got arrested on felony gun charges. I don't have the link as these happened over the last ten years and only remember reading about it, but that's the kind of bullshit you can expect in the United States, especially in certain states.

Post Merged: December 26, 2018, 10:51:19 AM
How about this - someone starts a company & advertises that they will happily test illegal drugs for potency and contaminants, bring 'em in!  Think said company wouldn't get charged with a crime?  Fucking cops.

Companies like The Bunk Police test folks drugs at festivals all over the country.

There's also a few online companies that will test your mdma and let you know if it's adulterated and/or dangerous. These guys seem to get on alright.

The bunk police are amazing. Dancesafe has been effectively shut down. They sell test kits on their website, but any festival they have a booth at they don't test shit anymore or even sell kits because of the RAVE act. The bunk police sneaks into festivals, sets up on the camp ground (and eventually most big festivals kick them out for fear of being hit by the RAVE act but they often seize all their product) they have a number you can text to find them, reddit bots, and big flags in the camp ground. And they give away a free kit every single Friday on Facebook Instagram and i think twitter. I've won twice. One time i mentioned i needed fent strips but my mandelin for k was going bad so i was torn, so they just sent me both.

There's other companies online that sell kits, like elevation chemicals, but their shit goes bad in weeks. The bunk police mix their kits to order, so they stay good in the fridge for weeks on end. I won't do coke H molly L K without testing it with at least 2 kits these days. Most coke comes back with some sort of amphetamine in it. Most molly is methylone, and the shit that isn't 9 times out of 10 ismda (simons kit differiantrs the two)

The bunk police does sell the best fentanyl test strips on the market (it's not like reagant testing, you dissolve your shot in water and your supposed to suck it up then put water in the rinse and use the strip to test it but i just test the actual shot. It's like a pregnancy test hold it in for 15 seconds and one line is clean 2 is fent. I've used 30 strips on 30 batches and 29 contained fent in Connecticut)


Btw I'm in no way connected to the bunk police. I've just been Reagant testing my drugs for like 5 years and the bunk police has never failed me. Can't say I've ever ordered from dance safe but id rather order from the company that risks their money and potentially their freedom to sneak into festivals to sell kots (they don't offer on the spot testing anymore for legal reasons. They used to until it became an issue with having felonies on their product tablr as undercover cops and festival security were around. I've been a follower of there's for years, there's a good documentary on YouTube by them if you look up "what's in my baggie")

Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: bonedust on December 26, 2018, 08:47:09 PM
Yea, like I'm gonna bring my drugs (or myself) anywhere near a cop.
As Admiral Akbar from Star Wars would say, "IT'S A TRAP!"
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on December 27, 2018, 06:02:39 AM
I once got ripped of scoring H near a copshop.

I was pissed so i actually went to the copshop and told them about my misfortune.

They asked "are you carrying any drugs sir ?"

I said "of course not, that's my problem" (Duh!)

... and GTFO of there.

Yes, i'm "that guy". True story.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Tainted on December 27, 2018, 06:06:35 AM
I once got ripped of scoring H near a copshop.

I was pissed so i actually went to the copshop and told them about my misfortune.

They asked "are you carrying any drugs sir ?"

I said "of course not, that's my problem" (Duh!)

... and GTFO of there.

Yes, i'm "that guy". True story.

Yeah in the states you'd probably get arrested for conspiracy or some bs charge
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on December 27, 2018, 05:26:01 PM
I only did it to make a point to the police that if they want to clean up the drug scene then BUST the nasty fucks selling BURN BAGS first.

Conspiracy ? Nah ... we all know the drill. Junkies gotta "eat"
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: bignasty on December 27, 2018, 11:45:51 PM
I only did it to make a point to the police that if they want to clean up the drug scene then BUST the nasty fucks selling BURN BAGS first.

Conspiracy ? Nah ... we all know the drill. Junkies gotta "eat"
Hopefully, he pulled that same shit on the wrong person and they caught up with him again and gave him a nice beating or some lead.

US police would definitely hit you with conspiracy to obtain a controlled substance or some shit like that. There was a football (American football, not soccer) player that let a friend use his phone to set up a coke deal and the football player got arrested just 'cause it was his phone and maybe his money that was used to buy the coke!!! I'm pretty sure he ended up getting time in prison too. His money and high priced lawyers couldn't get him out of it with just probation or get it dropped completely.

Conspiracy (except to commit murder when they catch them dead to rights and not just a guy saying "I'd like to kill that bitch for taking half my money in the divorce"), aiding and abetting, accomplice after the fact, harboring a fugitive, etc.. laws are such bullshit IMO. You expect a mother that doesn't know or believe that her son did whatever the cops say he did to not let her son stay at her house or send him money or feed him or help him hide out or run from the cops, etc..? And what if you don't know the person you're "harboring" is a fugitive? We have some stupid, irrational laws in this country.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Tainted on December 28, 2018, 12:23:55 AM
I only did it to make a point to the police that if they want to clean up the drug scene then BUST the nasty fucks selling BURN BAGS first.

Conspiracy ? Nah ... we all know the drill. Junkies gotta "eat"

There's been a couple episodes of cops were people call 911 cause someone ripped then off or robbed them in a drug deal. Every single time, the person who called 911 gets arrested for some type of conspiracy to purchase narcotics or some random bullshit law. Few of the episodes the person who ripped them off just denied denied denied and didn't get arrested. In cases of actual robbery (gun point knife point) both parties get arrested.

With that TV show though, you got to remember they have thousands of hours of footage and pick the most interesting shit where someone always goes to jail (and they try not to make the cops look bad)
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: bignasty on December 28, 2018, 03:01:40 AM
I only did it to make a point to the police that if they want to clean up the drug scene then BUST the nasty fucks selling BURN BAGS first.

Conspiracy ? Nah ... we all know the drill. Junkies gotta "eat"

There's been a couple episodes of cops were people call 911 cause someone ripped then off or robbed them in a drug deal. Every single time, the person who called 911 gets arrested for some type of conspiracy to purchase narcotics or some random bullshit law. Few of the episodes the person who ripped them off just denied denied denied and didn't get arrested. In cases of actual robbery (gun point knife point) both parties get arrested.

With that TV show though, you got to remember they have thousands of hours of footage and pick the most interesting shit where someone always goes to jail (and they try not to make the cops look bad)
I saw an episode where somebody called about somebody selling them some fake coke or fake crack. The cop ended up getting her money back from the "dealer" but it was kinda like "I didn't sell her anything but if it'll make the situation go away, I'll give her some money" or something like that where the guy wasn't admitting anything and the cop didn't arrest anybody. But the cop warned the drug USER that if he caught her out there again and she was using, he was going to take her to jail when he should've been threatening the "dealer" that was selling pieces of soap as crack or some shit like that.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Chip on December 28, 2018, 04:20:59 AM
Now that's bullshit taken to a new level.

One day they're gonna look back at these laws and wonder how they could be so cruel.

Oh, i did lend my car to a dealer a few times (not for that purpose) and didn't bring it back. A week later i had to find some money to PAY him to return it and during that worrisome period i found all this information about what a stupid thing that was of me to do.

Never lend a car to a dealer and if you do, hope they don't get busted dealing from YOUR car !

When i asked around for my legal position on this, i was told that since i willingly lent my car then i could not pursue "theft of a motor vehicle" either !

That cat cost me a fortune before i cut him loose.
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: Tainted on December 28, 2018, 09:35:53 AM
Now that's bullshit taken to a new level.

One day they're gonna look back at these laws and wonder how they could be so cruel.

Oh, i did lend my car to a dealer a few times (not for that purpose) and didn't bring it back. A week later i had to find some money to PAY him to return it and during that worrisome period i found all this information about what a stupid thing that was of me to do.

Never lend a car to a dealer and if you do, hope they don't get busted dealing from YOUR car !

When i asked around for my legal position on this, i was told that since i willingly lent my car then i could not pursue "theft of a motor vehicle" either !

That cat cost me a fortune before i cut him loose.

That sucks my buddy used to lend his car to a crack dealer/H dealer that had his own car. I kept telling him "you realize he's doing that cause he's run from the police on his own car like 3 times and it came back to bite him in the ass. Your gonna end up getting arrested for fleeing and eluding for $40 of drugs"luckily nothing ever happened but it was dumb luck
Title: Re: Sheriff’s Office Urges Meth Users To Bring Drugs in for Testing. Wait, What?
Post by: bignasty on December 28, 2018, 10:58:14 PM
One day they're gonna look back at these laws and wonder how they could be so cruel.
That's what I always think to myself. I imagine my grandkids are going to ask me "so at one point in history alcohol was completely legal but you could do life in prison for selling weed?" and I'm going to have to say "yes unfortunately kids the world and the US used to be a really messed up place when it came to drugs, especially compared to alcohol".
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