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Title: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on January 11, 2017, 11:10:34 PM
  Any experience?  I'm considering asking my psych to prescribe.  I think if I could get a month or so away from alcohol I'd stop taking the antibuse & feel like I'd stay away on my own fairly easily.  Mostly wondering about withdrawls but they don't sound too serious.  Anyone use it for a brief period then continue on to stay sober on their own?
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Oxyphile on January 13, 2017, 10:23:40 PM
no personal experience, but my father took antabuse for years. he never experienced much in the way of side effects, and knowing that he'd get violently ill if he drank was a sufficient deterrent to keep him away from alcohol. after 5 or 6 years he stopped taking it and never went back to drinking. maybe it would help you do the same thing? good luck with whatever you decide to do, Moe!
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on January 14, 2017, 02:24:54 AM
I tried to get it RX'd before but the Dr wouldn't give it to me because of the side effects because alcohol is in so much stuff that people don't realize, i.e. hair spray, mouth wash, a lot of liquid medicine, etc..
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on January 14, 2017, 03:04:35 AM
I tried to get it RX'd before but the Dr wouldn't give it to me because of the side effects because alcohol is in so much stuff that people don't realize, i.e. hair spray, mouth wash, a lot of liquid medicine, etc..

That's good to know.  I'm pretty sure I don't use anything with alcohol.  I guess one needs to be cautious with food to, like be sure nothing is cooked with wine, etc.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on February 19, 2018, 01:27:58 AM
update:  3 weeks taking the antabuse & i have found it easier than expected, removes the choice.  been daydreaming about h instead though.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: nurse_K on February 20, 2018, 01:56:47 AM
Well done!
Antabus in no longer recommended as first choice from where I come from. First choice is medicine to minimize the craving.Also, but not least recommendations goes that antabus should not be the entire treatment so to say. Medical support should be additional to support i.e piers, therapy.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Lolleedee on February 21, 2018, 03:23:30 AM
Glad to hear that the antabuse seems to be working for you. They are having great success with using Naltrexone for alcoholism. If you have Netflix look up the documentary one little pill. also, research the Sinclair method.

The way they describe it is that you take the Naltrexone while you continue to drink and that it's slowly reduces the craving and the effects of it. Of course, if you are also addicted to opiates Naltrexone is out of the question.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on April 15, 2018, 11:58:43 PM
i didnt refill the script and am back to drinking.  :(  just need to not drink for one night so I can resume the antabuse...  it'll happen, just a matter of when.  hopefully sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on April 29, 2018, 01:28:51 AM
still haven't managed to get one day without drinking to resume antibuse.  11am, i've got a pint and a sixer of strong beer.  fucking hate this shit.  despite the fact I think all drugs should be legal, i wish this shit was illegal.  i should order a bunch of kratom.  what's the deal with the salmonella in kratom right now?

Glad to hear that the antabuse seems to be working for you. They are having great success with using Naltrexone for alcoholism. If you have Netflix look up the documentary one little pill. also, research the Sinclair method.

The way they describe it is that you take the Naltrexone while you continue to drink and that it's slowly reduces the craving and the effects of it. Of course, if you are also addicted to opiates Naltrexone is out of the question.

wish i could afford naltrexone, no insurance.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Lolleedee on April 30, 2018, 05:40:31 AM
I don't know what your budget is, but month supply is about $30.00.  Not cheep, but you would save a lot by not buying booze.

I hope you feel better.  Active addiction is a bitch!
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on April 30, 2018, 08:17:11 PM
ok, thought it was a lot more... 
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on May 07, 2018, 04:45:16 AM
hatched a place to get 24hrs without booze so i could resume antibuse.  went & mowed sisters lawn for 6 hours yesterday and stayed overnight.  we hit the hot tub, smoked a bunch weed & sat by a fire outside.  took the antibuse this am, cleaned my filthy apartment, filled gas tank, stocked up on groceries & had enough left for a gram of shatter.  still have a few bucks until friday, thinking about grabbing some kratom for this evening.

went ahead & got some opms liquid concentrate.  i've tried it before but didn't get a lot out of it, we'll see.  plan on ordering some different stuff from mu on payday.  iguess they're hanging on or maybe they just paid up for while?  nice they're still here.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Hooman on May 09, 2018, 12:52:59 AM
Really glad to hear you're doing better, Moe - I hope you manage to keep at it! :)
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on May 09, 2018, 03:58:38 AM
Thanks for your help Moe because you are the real deal !~
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on May 11, 2018, 09:56:59 AM
only day four but already feeling way better.  have been enjoying kratom in the evenings.  might just make a habit of it... i love the motivation & it's come just in time, this weekend's plan is to fix the motorcycle.  it's been in my apartment's living room all winter.  don't worry, i checked my lease, nothing in there about motorcycles.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on May 11, 2018, 12:55:12 PM
you're a funny guy, a real loophole  :PY4
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on September 28, 2018, 10:15:32 AM
last night i drank on the antibuse...  shit is no joke.  i had missed a few days taking trying to spread out the few i had until i refill the script but did take it yesterday morning. from what i read online i thought the effects were supposed to happen very quickly so i sipped a beer & nothing happend. i waited a bit, had a gulp of whiskey still nothing. then i drank most of a half pint & wham!  i've never been so scared about my heart including doing sketchy stim shots. i've never claimed i'm the sharpest tool in the shed.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on September 28, 2018, 10:24:27 AM
@MoeMentim what does it make you feel like ?

half pint of whiskey or beer ?
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on September 28, 2018, 10:37:00 AM
whiskey.  POUNDING & racing heart with palpatations, horrible headache, beet red flushed face- actually flushed everywhere, sweating like mad, super dry mouth with a metallic taste.  funny thing though, i curled up in bed & don't recall the effects lessening before i actually fell asleep. i woke up maybe two hours hours later & felt much better but still very short of breath. intoxication is waning.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on September 28, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
1/2 pint Whiskey ? Woah, slow down.

i'm at the 1.2 to 2 bottles of wine.

damned tolerance; double-edged sword !

why not load up on Bacolfen and high-dose Lorazepam instead ? you will save your LIVEr and if you manipulate your doctor then you'll still catch a decent buzz for a while.

+add Lyrica to the mix if you can swing it. Get hooked on benzos or Phenibut - ANYTHING but alcohol.

have you tried to ? the DT's and acute alcohol withdrawal is life threatening.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on September 28, 2018, 03:01:08 PM
i don't have a doctor & i'm convinced my medical records label me a "drug seeker." i'm always under prescribed for pain.  i never tried to get or suggested drugs to a doc.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on September 28, 2018, 11:55:08 PM
whiskey.  POUNDING & racing heart with palpatations, horrible headache, beet red flushed face- actually flushed everywhere, sweating like mad, super dry mouth with a metallic taste.  funny thing though, i curled up in bed & don't recall the effects lessening before i actually fell asleep. i woke up maybe two hours hours later & felt much better but still very short of breath. intoxication is waning.
Sounds similar to what happened when I removed a 100mcg/hr fent patch and then 6-8 hrs later, shot 2 or 4mg's of the old orange octagon with a + on them suboxone pills. It was instant misery but I do remember somehow falling asleep during the worst of it or after about 30 mins into the worst of it. It was like God or my body had mercy on me and let me go to sleep instead of making me suffer thru the shit.

I used to beg my shrink to give me an Antabuse script and a benzo script so I'd stop drinking but not have anxiety. I wanted him to know that I really did only drink to self-medicate my anxiety since they wouldn't give me shit but SSRI's that weren't working and killing my dick being able to get up for even the hottest chicks. He wouldn't do it though 'cause he said it was so dangerous that even using mouthwash with alcohol could cause huge side effects and terrible withdrawal or negative effects. He ended up giving me benzo's though but still wouldn't give me Antabuse 'cause it was too dangerous. That tells you something when a shrink is more scared of alcohol + Antabuse than he is/was of a benzo + alcohol. I drank a lot too, like a 5th to a liter of 40% Kentucky whiskey everyday.

I'm with @Chip though, it'd be a lot better for you physically, emotionally, financially and mentally to get addicted to benzo's than to keep drinking everyday. Alcohol was the WORST drug I've ever been addicted to too. I didn't even know I was an addict/alcoholic either. I just knew I felt really weird and had a lot of anxiety and couldn't sleep for shit when the liquor stores were closed on Sunday's and I couldn't find or get any whiskey.
Alcohol caused me to have a near fatal car accident that required a 5 day stay in the hospital and led to my addiction to pain pills/dope/opioids, and it gave me acute pancreatitis that required a 3 day stay in the hospital that led to my addiction to nubain which was actually just an addiction to the needle which a lot of folks on here understand. It did that all in 7 months and before I was even old enough to legally drink too. It also caused me to just be an asshole in general that would look for a fight when I got drunk enough and was bored.
Also, it caused me to go to jail at least 3-4 times. It caused a lot of physical fights and violent outbursts and being emotionally unstable when I'd drink too much which was pretty much everyday. It was a cheap addiction since my drink of choice was only $8 for a 5th or $10-11 for a liter. However, benzo addiction or use is even cheaper. I get 90 1mg kpins a month now for less than a dollar. If a Dr. won't give you any benzo's or anything good, you can always order some research chemical benzo's or triazolobenzodiazepines like clonazolam or flubromazolam which are dangerous IMO, but you could be safer and order some etizolam or diclazepam or phenazepam and there are a few others that are pretty easy to get.
The good thing about benzo's over alcohol is that weed + alcohol = puke your guts up or get dizzy as fuck and not feel good while benzo's + weed = pure bliss that's the closest thing to opiates/opioids besides actually taking opioids or dope. If you really wanna get over alcohol and get a good buzz, I recommend opiate/opioid + benzo + weed = fantastic, life changing high that releases all your problems and worries even if only for a little while. Just be careful if you mix benzo's and opiates/opioids though as they're known to cause fatal respiratory depression. Besides the risk of OD, benzo's and opiates really ain't that bad for you physically. Withdrawal from either of them is the worst part physically unless you're IV'ing using bad techniques or procedures. Even IV'ing using great technique carries it's own health risks though but you know that though so I'm just rambling from the Adderall. Trying to give HR advice for anybody else reading this to be honest.

PS: Alcohol is one of the funnest, if not the funnest, recreational drug in social situations though, especially for young folks that don't feel awful the next day and are trying to get laid while drinking at a club or bar or rave or whatever. I wouldn't have fucked at least like 30 girls without drinking at the time. Not 'cause they were drunk and I was taking advantage, just 'cause we were having fun and drunk and both wanted to fuck.
If weed was as socially acceptable, I could see it being a very fun social recreational drug if everybody at the bar or smoke shop or whatever is on the same level. However, I don't think it would lead to as much good, uninhibited sex though. I miss drinking a lot and fucking random girls or "friend girls" if you can't tell, LOL.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on September 29, 2018, 05:30:02 AM
i don't have a doctor & i'm convinced my medical records label me a "drug seeker." i'm always under prescribed for pain.  i never tried to get or suggested drugs to a doc.

Dear @MoeMentim PLEASE seek help and FUCK what they think. They think that of me because I am but i still get what i want one way or another ... as long as i don't abuse it or take unfair advantage.

you need to address this.

trust me, find a nice empathetic GAY doctor.

Why gay ? because they were ILLEGALS unfairly and we are in the same boat.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on October 03, 2018, 01:29:00 AM
i don't have a doctor & i'm convinced my medical records label me a "drug seeker." i'm always under prescribed for pain.  i never tried to get or suggested drugs to a doc.

Dear @MoeMentim PLEASE seek help and FUCK what they think. They think that of me because I am but i still get what i want one way or another ... as long as i don't abuse it or take unfair advantage.

you need to address this.

trust me, find a nice empathetic GAY doctor.

Why gay ? because they were ILLEGALS unfairly and we are in the same boat.
Not sure about the gay doctor thing but I'm with you on everything else. My first doctors were shrinks when I was an admitted teen alcoholic so I'm pretty sure I have something in my medical records that says "prone to addiction" or "drug seeker" or something of the sort but I still get scripted good drugs in my opinion.
Monthly, I'm scripted 90 clonazepam, 60 Adderall and 30 ambien from my shrink. From my pain doc in the last year, I've been scripted 120 10mg 'dones a month. Then some law made a lot of docs weary of scripting 'done for pain so I was given 60 MScontins and 60 Norco's/then 60 perc's per month in addition to 90 300mg gabapentin and 90 4mg xanaflex.

Do you have insurance? If so, just keep trying until you find a doctor that cares and will treat you right. If not, ask around for a quack doctor that writes scripts pretty easily. I was getting 120 10mg 'dones and 90 gabapentin a month from a doctor that wasn't even a pain doc. Years before that, I was getting 60 Adderall, 60 kpins and 60 hydrocodones from a family doctor. You just have to ask around. If you buy pills from folks, ask everybody who they go to and if they don't wanna give up their hookup, just tell 'em you ain't gonna stop buying from them and you'll give 'em like 10-25% of what you're scripted every month or at least the 1st month.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on October 03, 2018, 04:18:09 PM
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{snip} Not sure about the gay doctor thing {snip}

ha ha, i'm sure you're not but my gay friends are seriously fucking great people that understand stigma and know the hurt of vilification.

plus they are drop dead cool.

i was merely floating the premise.

HAVING a good doctor is as vital as finding the best drug dealer -- no inference intended.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on October 03, 2018, 10:07:02 PM
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{snip} Not sure about the gay doctor thing {snip}

ha ha, i'm sure you're not but my gay friends are seriously fucking great people that understand stigma and know the hurt of vilification.

plus they are drop dead cool.

i was merely floating the premise.

HAVING a good doctor is as vital as finding the best drug dealer -- no inference intended.

It definitely makes sense that they'd be more understanding than the average joe doctor. Plus, I could flirt and potentially get more goodies if they wanted to fuck me or thought I was cute.

(Moderator EDIT: I assume you are joking but NEVER do this as it is deceptive, cruel and exploitative)

Years ago, I used to send one of my girlfriends to 2 family doctors in my hometown that were known perverts that liked younger girls and she'd intentionally wear short shorts and/or a top showing a lot of cleavage and she always ended up getting more goodies RX'd than me. One gave her 120 10mg hydrocodones and would only give me 60 7.5mg hydrocodones. The other gave her 2mg Xanax and would only give me 1mg kpin.

After we broke up, she kept going to one of the doctors and years later she was getting the hookup and he was giving her all kinds of goodies. Think she told me she was getting 15 fent patches and 90 of the 30mg roxies plus 90 2mg Xanax bars and 60 30mg Adderall every month. Plus, he'd give her one too many refills on the Xanax bars so every few months, she'd take her paper script to one pharmacy and get her refill from another pharmacy so she'd get 180 bars every 3 or 4 months instead of 90, LOL. We fucked around not too long ago and I told her she owed me 10 yrs worth of goodies or money or pussy for hooking her up with that doctor, LOL.

She has given me patches, roxies and bars (and really good head) for free since then though so I don't mind. We also let each other borrow Adderall 'til the other one gets their script and can pay the other one back but a lot of time she won't even ask me for the adds back 'cause I get her vyvanse from a dealer I know for pretty cheap once a month. Well, I guess it's cheap to get 60 60mg (I think?) vyvanse for $60 every month. It's also nice to keep a side piece in case something ever happens between me and my wife (or her and her husband) too.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on October 05, 2018, 04:22:58 AM
@MoeMentim, please consider better and more effective treatment options.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on October 05, 2018, 05:04:59 AM
What's deceptive, cruel and exploitative? Flirting with a gay dude when you're straight to get more drugs or joking about it?

Either way, learn to take a joke and don't let it hurt your feelings :'( 'cause it was about a gay dude AKA a homosexual, queer, meat packer, queen, butt pirate, limp wrist, etc...

Gays obviously have no sense of humor, LOL.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on October 05, 2018, 05:45:08 AM
ha, my gay buddies are actually hilarious !

so at the gay dance clubs, most people are using drugs - not for a night out but because they are "damaged" by the heavy burden of being discriminated and hated throughout their lives. This is slowly changing but their response to their covert and fearful secret of their sexuality leads to self medication.

like us ! we are STILL doing what society deems illegal but they have overcome this.

I do NOT ask my gay friends for drugs as i have pure motives, despite knowing that probably can.

i don't need to and it will only devalue the relationship
.. but if they should EVER offer then i might explore that).

I do my own research on how to find the best drugs (preferably from the source) or be simply honest with the doctor and allay their fears about addiction by saying "i won't doctor shop or ask for more within an agreed time frame; so far, so good.

one more thing about gay boys that you may not know - there are 3 types: 1. the "top" that wants to fuck YOU (rare; the minority) 2. the "bottom" that wants you to fuck THEM (the majority) and 3. the "versatile" (i have no data on that).

also, never offer drugs to gay people unless you are assuming the role of the therapist as it usually implies that you expect sex in exchange.

no mate, we cool but gays have suffered enough (often victims of sexual abuse) so i NEVER play with their emotions of pretend to be something else.

I act the person who i say i am and most of the time, it takes years of hard work to be accepted.

after all, what's a straight man doing by hanging around gay clubs for 30 years ? I don't blame them thinking that and i hope you know my reasons.

i LOVE their music, they are proffesionals, their "party hard" and loving nature. they aren't fucking around - music and fantasy are their refuge and dammit, i'm right their with them.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on October 05, 2018, 07:47:14 AM
i've never met a gay man i didn't like & i've met lots, the dive bar i more or less lived at in las vegas was smack dab in the middle of the gay district.  they are kind people who live in a world that is very unkind to them.

lesbians i'm less sure of.  i don't think the "man hater" stereotype is completely without merit.  i was an apartment manager & had this lesbian couple as tenants, they'd have the worst knock down drag out fights, black eye type shit, cops there all the time.  whenever i knocked on their door because they were late on rent they'd just fucking verbally attack me.  goddamn i hate even thinking about those cunts.  know why there's gay bars but no lesbian bars?  they all get kicked out & the bar goes belly up.  is that bad of me?  i am willing to believe the tenants were an anomaly but they sure did set a bad example
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on October 05, 2018, 08:02:30 AM
i know 2 sweet lesbians DJs; one who would come out of the DJ booth during her set just to give me a hug and a kiss. Another one plays Tribal/dirty Tech house and is fucking awesome on so many levels.

Another one that i didn't know (a patron) was a nasty aggressive cunt who shoulder charged me and then took off my glasses and fucked them and threw them on the floor ! i am virtually legally blind and this was in a dark club. she did this twice !!! CUNT BITCH FATHERFUCKER !

i was devastated and exceptionally upset. i could've got Security to throw her out but I didn't want to stoop to her level.

went to a lesbian night at the club and they wouldn't dance (the str8 girls at my club are usually hot and love to dance). they were all bitching in the Gaming Lounge.

i even got asked for a threesome 333 !

Got the fuck out of there as fast as i could.

Lesbians ? Genetally I don't want to know them and keep far away. Of course there are some nice ones but i only have ever met a few.

all groovy DJs. DJs tend to be beautiful people.

It's not just you Moe.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on October 05, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
ok, glad it ain't just me.  benzos:
i love my psychiatrist, more than any medical professional i've had & i value his opinion.  i will bring up the topic of benzos in a month.  also on the discussion agenda is ketamine infusions which i can't afford but he now offers, or possibly me taking matters into my own hands & growing shrooms to try the micro-dosing thing.  i expect he'll be more receptive to the latter two than benzos.  last time we met he told me it makes his day to see that i'm on his schedule.  we spent an entire visit talking philosophy once.  i pointed to a book on his shelf, "existentialist psychotherapy" or something like that & asked what he thinks of kierkegaard.  he's (doc) an athiest but appreciates.  i like K because he values his own inward religious experience over what he knows is a more rational objective viewpoint.  He said he likes Kierkegaard but in his practice needs to stay objective.  i said "if you heard the voice of god that objective shit would go right out the window"
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: bignasty on October 05, 2018, 10:27:08 PM
I have no problems with gays and if you met me you'd think I did since I'm a southern, slow talking, accent having, boot wearing, country (and rap) listening to, pussy loving redneck that's pretty conservative on certain issues. I don't necessarily have any gay "friends" but I have gay acquaintances that I hang out with from time to time. Once, I had one of my gay acquaintances at my house and invited over a guy that had graduated HS with him (both older than me) and he said "you know he's gay, right?". I said "yeah but I'm cool with him as long as he doesn't try to fuck me". My friend knew I was right and ended up coming over, giving him a big hug and talking to him for hours about HS and what each one had been up to since then. He's got a lot of medical conditions so he ended up just passing out 30mg adds and 2mg Xanax even though we didn't ask him for any and were willing to pay him for them but he wouldn't take it.

The gays that have the most emotionally, mental issues in my opinion are the ones that are disowned by family. It seems like most of them can handle society thinking of them a certain way but it really tears them up when their family that's supposed to love them no matter what kinda turns their back on them and doesn't want to have anything to do with them ONE DAY (after they come out) after being completely normal and nice to them.

However, being a junky often involves being deceptive, cruel and exploitative to much of our loved ones including family and friends so I thought it was unfair to say that about gay doctors when we do that to the ones that love us the most in a lot of circumstances. Leading on a gay doctor to get prescribed more and better drugs would be one of the least dirty, immoral things some of the people on here have done to get high or stay well. I'm a pretty moral junky and haven't stolen from family and shit to get high but I understand (to a certain extent) when people do do (I said doodoo, LOL) those things to get high. When I run outta money and can't hustle up any money, I just get ready for the sickness and start asking people if they can front. If nobody fronts, I'm just sick and can always at least get a sub or a piece of one so I'm not totally CT sick.

If I ever went completely CT sick, I might do some immoral shit to get something but I usually get fronted or given a sub strip 'cause of the way that I treat people when they're sick and in a bad spot. I've found that if you take care of people, they'll usually take care of you in similar circumstances. However, I do know folks that get a shitload of meds RX'd each month and have a bunch of hookups that are greedy with both even after I always help them out but I tend to cut those folks off and stop fucking with them completely.

One of my ex "friends" would always ask me if I could get 'dones when he'd run out and I'd always either get them for him at cost or maybe charge $1 each extra if I got a decent deal on them OR I'd just give him my hookup's number if I wasn't making anything off the deal. Then, when he gets his 330 'dones and 90 roxies every month, he's stingy as fuck and won't let go of any 'dones and will only sell the shitty huge roxies that you can't shoot for $15 each. And I've told him all the pharmacies that carry the small IV'able roxies but I guess he just likes being an asshole 'cause he always gets the big ones that nobody likes, even the snorters and folks that take 'em orally.

All the hookups that I've given ^^ him charge him $10 for 10mg 'dones now 'cause they'll be like "Yo, what's wrong with your man? That motherfucker wants everybody to help him out but then he's stingy as fuck when he gets his meds every month". Then, that kinda fucks me 'cause he'll still buy them out or buy at least half their script and I'll have to go without when they sell out of their script quicker than normal. And I think they're lying to me sometime so they can get $10 each for their pills instead of $7 each which is shitty of both of them 'cause I get fucked for helping both of them out when I should get hooked up for helping both of them out. The cost of being nice I guess. Nice guys finish last as they say.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: MoeMentim on October 07, 2018, 11:13:15 PM
it's sunday, i drank all day friday & saturday (i work 4 10s so 3 day weekends.)  trying to decide if im going to today or not.  i don't feel too bad (some anxiety)  just bored & shitty weather out.  took all my morning meds but staring at the antibuse.  gotta run some errands this morning so i got a while to decide i guess.  on sundays i usually feel like i'd go to an aa meeting but there's none around until nighttime.

edit: decided on drinking.  big surprise there... 
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: Chip on October 08, 2018, 12:42:31 PM
speaking of drinking, last night was my first day off in a long time ... not by choice; my closest was shut and I've only got $12 in the bank and $35 in my wallet and no pay until Thursday.

going to see how i feel without alcohol.
Title: Re: anibuse / antabuse
Post by: LadyKalma on October 12, 2018, 06:21:58 AM
I hate to see this- people who get off opiates to get to drinking too much. Mostly I hate it cause I've been that person in some parts of life, and I don't like drinking. I always end up doing out of desperation and having nothing else. And I feel like shit while drinking and afterwards.

I highly recommend substituting any other addiction if you need something. Kratom is great, at least for me for now. I've been on it as a home made mantinence option and have only been using h occasionally. And let me tell you it is so worth it. When I use I actually get high now, so it's motivation to not go back to using full time so I can enjoy it when I do.

Is there any free or cheap counciling in your area? I'd look into that cause of the anxiety you're talking about. You're in Canada right? So enjoy your access to medical care that you are very fortunate to have.

I tell you, if I had access to medical care I would probably be going about things a different way. You've been able to go a day here and there without drinking, no withdrawals right? So my (clearly junkie) advice is to substitute kratom or something else easy to get on the clearnet such as etizolam, baclofen, gabapentin, phenibut, etc. A rotation of those would be best.

It's good to hear how you're doing, and see some familiar names around here. Keep us posted and don't give up!
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