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Title: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 25, 2016, 02:31:20 PM
What do you guys think of pick up artists?

Apparently people pay a lot of money to learn how to get girls... they run seminars. Here is one of their head honchos:

(https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.venusianarts.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FV_pickupartist_0608_01216-199x300.jpg&hash=12c3cc679708eba1c8318840de0ce4513dcc8b28)

He looks like a dweeb... even worse, he calls himself "mystery" lol. Guys are paying that guy thousands of dollars to learn from him... I think I should start a new business. The thing I don't get is why don't these guys just pay prostitutes? It's cheaper and guaranteed...

I looked into this forum:

www.pick-up-artist-forum.com

I wanted to find some of their methods. I don't think this shit would work on any girl... correct me if I'm wrong gals. Here's one of their pitches:

Me: Hey, I saw you from afar and I thought you are really cute (Direct Opener)
Her: Oh thanks, that's so sweet of you!
Me: So what sorts of trouble are you up to today?
Her: Oh nothing, just class and work afterwards
Me: No, I got a better idea. We're gonna go rob a bank (playful role playing).
Her: Ha, what?!
Me: No, I'm DEAD SERIOUS. But when we rob the bank, you have to distract them while I break in with a mask on because I'm too hot and they'll recognize my face right away-
her: Wait, what? what about me?
me: oh you'll be fine, you're hot, but not as hot as me so they won't remember who you are (playful)
her: OHHH it's like that?!
me: HEY LISTEN! *I softly take her hand* If I get caught, this whole operation goes to shit! But if it works, we'll get rich and live a happily ever after fairy tale

That shit was horrible... anyone paid to go to pick up school before?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Snout on April 25, 2016, 02:51:46 PM
You're not taking enough dope, libido needs control...
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: thetalkingasshole on April 25, 2016, 03:16:54 PM
That little "scenario" you posted is fairly representative of how this pick-up shit is formulated

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these guys believe that insulting women indirectly, or flat out directly
is in some way going to improve their chances of ever talking to this person again?

There was a kid in high school who had a book written by that guy (surprise, we all hated this kid)
Which of course was given to him by his mom (she also wrote him a note in the front)
He was always talking about "back-handed compliments" and some other stupid shit


I do feel sorry for some of these guys
I guess being themselves is either not going to attract any women, or "themselves" is a paranoid/anxious/depressive wreck
who is totally incapable of forming any kind of meaningful or intimate relationships

I mean, yes, I totally fall into that second group of people
but I'm not going to insult and belittle a woman in an attempt to basically trick her into thinking I'm some douchebag named mystery
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: makadone7dayz3 on April 25, 2016, 04:47:33 PM
I second the above post. Being yourself is and should be enough. Not some bullshit dimestore psychology. Maybe it works on insecure women without a solid self esteem, but ot most likely would not work on someone worth knowing. Its transparent and stupid.

Attraction all comes down to looks and how much you wanna bet that pick up artist bullshit does not work when tbe girl is way more attractive then the pick up artist.

Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on April 25, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
It doesnt have to work. You pay first.

People also pay money to see carrot top. We dont always use our money very well
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Z on April 25, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
I think that most of the guys who buy into this are just insecure, or socially awkward.  I was a shy kid, but grew out of it.  Apparently if you do enough drugs you don't give as much of a shit.  Who knew?


I love Ethan, and the guy he was making fun of here scares the everliving crap out of me.  Among his techniques are hugging a random girl, while counting 10 Mississippi.  Out loud.  Cruising teenagers while pretending to be a teenage rock star.  Hiring prostitutes to star in his pickup videos.  I mean, prostitutes are all good and fine, but I wouldn't hire one to make a YouTube video with me.

You can go pretty far down the road rage, rape dungeon rabbit hole with this good looking loser guy. 
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Zoops on April 25, 2016, 07:33:44 PM
I signed up for a couple "adult" dating sites in the past, so my name is on mailing lists for this shit. I have looked at their pitch videos before, more than a couple, and it's always, "a renegade team of scientists working for NASA and the CIA developed this system of mind control so powerful that there are women's groups out there trying right not to have this video taken down. We don't know if this is going to be available tomorrow so get it while it's hot!"

They claim to have a "secret formula" of questions you can ask any woman, anytime, and it will immediately "make her slide her pussy onto your cock." And it works even if they don't want it to. Sometimes they claim to have like three WORDS to say to get ANY woman desperate to fuck you instantly. I mean it's totally un-fuckin-believable the claims these losers make.

And it's always like "I used to charge men $10,000 to learn these secret mind control techniques, but you can get it now, for the low low price of $69.99, and get laid TONIGHT!"

Their "clients" must be both:

a. super insecure and socially inept to a fault (who the hell absolutely cannot get a woman to talk to them?)
b. dumb as fucking shit

to buy into this crap.

But they seem to be making plenty money with these "pickup systems." There are many out there these days, and it's a growth industry. LADIES LOOK OUT! You might find yourself getting it doggy style from some acne-ridden obese video game addict if you don't watch out.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: smalls on April 25, 2016, 07:36:20 PM
The back-handed compliment is called a "neg." This guy had a show on MTV or VH1 a while back and according to their "hidden camera footage" it worked, or at least got girls to react in a positive way (giggles, not slapping the guy, etc). But that was basically reality TV and we all know how real that is.

I'd chalk the positive reactions from women up to girls learning early that even if a guy is a creep you hafta be nice or face the consequences.

There is a LOT of crossover between the PUA set and MRA dudes. Insecurity is barely the half of it. I'd safely bet a lot of them downright hate women.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: smalls on April 25, 2016, 07:41:44 PM

They claim to have a "secret formula" of questions you can ask any woman, anytime, and it will immediately "make her slide her pussy onto your cock." And it works even if they don't want it to.

LOL

Hey, what are these "adult" dating sites? You mean like FarmersOnly? It's not like kids are allowed to operate that machinery after all.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: neighbor on April 25, 2016, 07:44:09 PM
man I recall seeing this show on vh1. the vocabulary alone was worth watching it for.

grab your wingman, have him put on a cowboy hat and sunglasses, and open a 3 set with some hotties. throw out some negs, build kino, and close the set by bouncing with the hotties to a secondary location.

this was all around the time the book The Game by Strauss came out, explaining the secrets to getting mad amounts of babes while wearing a fedora

I knew someone that carried around The Game in highschool. honestly these dudes have my sympathy at the end of the day. @Z is right, they just want to be liked. I just think some ativan would negate this entire scenario overnight.

edit OH GOD zoops those ads are amazing. bar none, the best ones are on the porn sites.
"THE ONE QUESTION NO WOMEN CAN RESIST. FIND OUT HOW GUYS ARE GETTING LAID INSTANTLY USING THIS SECRET TECHNIQUE"
"SCIENCE HAS GONE TOO FAR. A DOCTOR IS USING TAP WATER TO GROW HIS DICK 6 INCHES. FIND OUT WHAT THE DRUG COMPANIES DONT WANT HIM TO TELL YOU.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Zoops on April 25, 2016, 07:53:24 PM
LOL

Hey, what are these "adult" dating sites? You mean like FarmersOnly? It's not like kids are allowed to operate that machinery after all.

Are YOU on that Farmers Only site too? I grow poppies, so...

- What's MRA and PUA?

You're right about these guys basically hating women. These pickup "formulas" basically come from an assumption that all women will react exactly the same to a series of rehearsed lines. Because they don't have any soul right? They are brainless vagina life-support systems right?

EDIT: "Some Ativan" is the only time I ever got slapped by a woman, getting fresh with her, asking her if she wanted to get a room and go upstairs, because, oh, "I have some rubbers too, so don't worry." NEVER AGAIN!
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: smalls on April 25, 2016, 08:04:37 PM
PUA are pickup artists and MRA are Men's Rights Activists. 

Here's a PUA that made his mark in SF a little while ago:

http://jezebel.com/5981578/angry-texts-from-the-rape-van-pick-up-artist

Also, the kid who wrote a 100+ page woman-hating manifesto and committed a mass shooting near UC Santa Barbara was a PUA in training.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: neighbor on April 25, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
"Some Ativan" is the only time I ever got slapped by a woman, getting fresh with her, asking her if she wanted to get a room and go upstairs, because, oh, "I have some rubbers too, so don't worry." NEVER AGAIN!

you didn't throw out any negs, what did you expect?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: smalls on April 25, 2016, 08:10:59 PM
grab your wingman, have him put on a cowboy hat and sunglasses, and open a 3 set with some hotties. throw out some negs, build kino, and close the set by bouncing with the hotties to a secondary location.

Ugh! Omg yes. A "secondary location" pfff. Hey how do you have all these terms memorized hmm? Remind me what a kino is?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: neighbor on April 25, 2016, 08:16:54 PM
we used to talk like this at the lunch table because it made us laugh

dont remember what kino is, but I remember mystery saying you have to build it first before you can close the set.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Illadelph215 on April 25, 2016, 08:42:45 PM
It doesnt have to work. You pay first.

People also pay money to see carrot top. We dont always use our money very well
To be fair, two of my best mates went to Vegas recently and they bought tickets to see carrot top.

Now naturally me and my other buds were making fun of them and like you said above, told them they wasted their money on a washed up wreck.

But they saw him on their last day, a Sunday right before they were flying home. One was hungover and the other had a horrible double ear infection, so they weren't pumped at all. Apparently that was one of the highlights of their trip, second behind the amazing food (who woulda thought) that Vegas had to offer.

He goes through a giant trunk of "props" which sounded stupid but they said he is very self aware, makes fun of himself and has hilarious scenarios and one liners. They both said they would see him again for sure and upon hearing some of his jokes I was a little impressed as well.

I never thought I'd be sticking up for carrot top but since that has been the topic of conversation around my friends recently I had to say something lol. Take it as you will, but apparently carrot top is a good act to see. I'm just as surprised as the rest of us, as he is the butt of a lot of jokes.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: smalls on April 25, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
we used to talk like this at the lunch table because it made us laugh

dont remember what kino is, but I remember mystery saying you have to build it first before you can close the set.

Okay I couldn't resist looking it up. Kino is touch.

Quote
For most kino escalation steps you should be sitting down next to her, on a couch or similar area. This opens up the most options. The best time to go for an escalation is when she is at an emotional highpoint.

Make sure that you are open for anything and take it as far as it will go that night

Here are some tips for "light kino," the first stage:

Quote
  • Palm reading – Put out your hand with the palm up and tell the girl to give you her hand. When she gives it, study her palm intently and gently trace the lines in her palm with your finger. Then, give her a look as if you now have her figured out and let go of her hand. When she asks what you saw, make something up that leads the interaction forward.
  • Short handholding – Another cold reading routine you can use when you have her hand is to place two fingers on her wrist, as if checking her pulse. Then say, “Just as I thought, you’re attracted to me. The heart never lies.” as you give her hand back.
  • Thumb-wrestling – This is a great game to use when challenging the girl to do something. You always want to win.
  • High five – Can be used for instance to highlight a commonality you share

Perhaps @Zoops would have scored with a little negging and some thumb wrestling when she was at an emotional highpoint.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Zoops on April 25, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
OH shit, I'm waaaay past thumb wrestling. That's for pussies. I go straight to "LET'S GET IT ON BABY!"

If that doesn't do it, then I go for my second option, which works every time.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 25, 2016, 11:17:49 PM
Thumb wrestling and palm reading? Seriously? I think all these pick up artists do is force these guys to try... they're bound to find a drunk chick or two who liked world War craft.

I was wondering what kino was too! This mystery douche bag apparently introduces himself to girls as "mystery". He suggests wearing one interesting item, such as goggles or binoculars lol, so a girl will have an excuse to talk to you... if they want to.

I wonder if any of these boot camps guarantee you will get laid there? Mine will. And no, they aren't hookers.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on April 25, 2016, 11:38:45 PM
To be fair, two of my best mates went to Vegas recently and they bought tickets to see carrot top.

Now naturally me and my other buds were making fun of them and like you said above, told them they wasted their money on a washed up wreck.

But they saw him on their last day, a Sunday right before they were flying home. One was hungover and the other had a horrible double ear infection, so they weren't pumped at all. Apparently that was one of the highlights of their trip, second behind the amazing food (who woulda thought) that Vegas had to offer.

He goes through a giant trunk of "props" which sounded stupid but they said he is very self aware, makes fun of himself and has hilarious scenarios and one liners. They both said they would see him again for sure and upon hearing some of his jokes I was a little impressed as well.

I never thought I'd be sticking up for carrot top but since that has been the topic of conversation around my friends recently I had to say something lol. Take it as you will, but apparently carrot top is a good act to see. I'm just as surprised as the rest of us, as he is the butt of a lot of jokes.

That special moment when you're not sure if someone is trolling you or not  8)

But really though, i'm well aware of his prop humor act. He's only done the same thing for ohh i dont know, 25 years?

Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on April 26, 2016, 12:22:38 AM
If you just keep coming up to girls and try to talk to them youll stop being nervous. In my opinion its like a form of cognitive behavior for people that have arachnophobia. Slowly but surely you bring the spider closer and closer until you become rational/realise theres no threat there. I dono though thats just opinion. I do think if you call yourself a pick up artist then your a douche bag.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Illadelph215 on April 26, 2016, 02:40:53 AM
That special moment when you're not sure if someone is trolling you or not  8)

But really though, i'm well aware of his prop humor act. He's only done the same thing for ohh i dont know, 25 years?
lol ehh some of that may have been sarcasm. I find it funny you used him as an example as wasted money when he's been the topic of convo between our circle since they saw him.

Pretty crazy that same routine has kept him with a gig in Vegas for years and a guest on many talk shows though.


Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: puppy on April 26, 2016, 08:45:09 AM
If you just keep coming up to girls and try to talk to them youll stop being nervous. In my opinion its like a form of cognitive behavior for people that have arachnophobia. Slowly but surely you bring the spider closer and closer until you become rational/realise theres no threat there. I dono though thats just opinion. I do think if you call yourself a pick up artist then your a douche bag.



Um...no....

No amount of therapy could possibly convince me to bring the spider closer...pass out and possible heart attack...maybe ....but keep that fucker over there... ;)
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 26, 2016, 09:13:37 AM
Gals, we need your opinions. Have you ever found yourself face down, ass up thinking, "dammit, not again, this fat motherfucker is a pick up artist!"
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Z on April 26, 2016, 10:04:11 AM


Um...no....

No amount of therapy could possibly convince me to bring the spider closer...pass out and possible heart attack...maybe ....but keep that fucker over there... ;)

I know you're joking, but it is a real treatment, and it does work well supposedly.  They call it desensitisation therapy. It is very slow and gradual so that you aren't excessively scared.  They try to maintain a general unease and combine it with coping techniques.

I have heard that they might not dobit with your specific phobia, but instead the aspects that bother you first. 

I don't think fear if spiders really requires therapy like this, but it apparently works great for hoarders, ocd, and other stress/anxiety response behaviours.

A friend had problems with minor hoarding/collecting/keeping her dead mothers apartment in a storage space for 5 years untouched.  This type of treatment helped her to be better at letting things go.  That's what she told me at least.

As for girls perspectives, obviously I'm not one but I have been around friends when guys come up and "spit game.". At this point it is pretty well known I think, and a lot of women treat guys who do these 'techniques' like they should be treated.  Poorly, ignored and even negged right back.  Serves them right.  All that you really need to meet wimen is to be somewhat interesting, honest and authentic.  I would work on basic communication skills, and do a course to increase your social confidence before advising someone to listen to these fuck up artists and their techniques for dehumanizong and taking advantage of fragile women. 

It's really just playing numbers.  If you start this crap with 100 women, then you're bound to have some who respond to it for whatever reason.  Then those odd successes seem amazing to them instead of the reality that if they approached 100 women and were genuine they would not only have some who respond, but also have the chance for more then a one night stand.  Shouldn't that be the real goal?

It's sad.  The real predators are the guys selling the courses.  Taking advantage of fragile men, and encouraging them to traumatize fragile women.  To make them distrust men, and feel even worse about themselves.  It oreys on the same insecure side of us that exploits people through teen magazines and impossible body ideals.  Clearly it works because there is a whole massive industry built around fragility, and exploiting that fragility for their own game.

I would love it if people stepped off that treadmill and felt better about themselves.  (Que imagine by john lennon.)
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on April 27, 2016, 03:13:26 PM
@puppy Yea but what if ur tied down n someone keeps throwing spiders at you? You just gonna keep having heart attacks?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 27, 2016, 03:19:55 PM
No, she would die after the first one  ;)
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on April 27, 2016, 03:25:19 PM
No, she would die after the first one  ;)
I read of a man that had 372 heart attacks. This is all made up but you can have multiple ones.(right?)
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on April 27, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
i taught myself to grind my teeth in my sleep after hearing that like 39 spiders hang out inside your mouth everynight.

they'll not be fucking with me again anytime soon.

oh and (https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Fbd0c8b14c8b8850ed337469096309642%2Ftumblr_inline_o4ezeiEO421sywstp_1280.png&hash=4a12f7a92573612318d447743a7861e820c0c4c3)
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 27, 2016, 07:23:46 PM
So I guess a heart attack is when one of the blood hoses (I dunno the technical name) in your heart get clogged... so I guess it's possible for more than one to get clogged at the same time?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on April 27, 2016, 10:47:21 PM
one of the blood hoses (I dunno the technical name)
thats a pretty strange thing for an iv drug user to say dont ya think?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on April 27, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
Not the veins lol. The ventricles or the artery or whatever... I dunno technically which part clogs up... and I thought blood hoses was kinda funny.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Snout on April 27, 2016, 10:55:11 PM
I liked " blood hoses" for the record
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on April 27, 2016, 11:14:30 PM
Not the veins lol. The ventricles or the artery or whatever... I dunno technically which part clogs up... and I thought blood hoses was kinda funny.

Just pullin your balls

Blood hoses was indeed funny
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Z on April 28, 2016, 07:48:09 AM
i taught myself to grind my teeth in my sleep after hearing that like 39 spiders hang out inside your mouth everynight.

they'll not be fucking with me again anytime soon.

oh and (https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Fbd0c8b14c8b8850ed337469096309642%2Ftumblr_inline_o4ezeiEO421sywstp_1280.png&hash=4a12f7a92573612318d447743a7861e820c0c4c3)

Yeah, yeah.  My favourite study says that placebo is more effective then antidepressants for many people.

Now I'm just thinking about some guro guro hentai blood hoses flying out and, well...  Never fear.  Uncyclopedia saved me with an article on how to avoid tentacle rape by blood hosez.  Crisis averted.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on April 28, 2016, 11:21:00 AM
@Guts Nah homes people have heart attacks without even realizing it.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Zoops on May 02, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
Droppin some medical knowledge on y'all:

When one or more of the coronary arteries, blood vessels that supply oxygen to the heart muscle, get clogged up partially or completely, this causes what's known as a myocardial infarction, or "heart attack." When someone has more than one, they are referring to having one, and then some time later on having another incident.

A cerebral infarction is known commonly as a "stroke" and happens when one of the blood vessels supplying the brain with oxygen gets clogged up.

Thromboemboli, or blood clots that migrate through the arteries and end up getting lodged at some point, blocking blood flow, are usually responsbile for MIs and CIs.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: candy on May 03, 2016, 04:29:01 PM
OK, I will bite.
You wanted a woman's view on pick up artists, well I can tell you that I have never been charmed by that kind of shit.
I like a man who can just be himself.
What attracts me most to a guy is a good sense of humor and someone who doesn't take himself so seriously.

I am more impressed by how a man treats a woman, and by that I mean being respectful, kind, considerate, and doesn't feel some need to act like a macho asshole, or push sex to far to fast. If I want to fuck you, I will let you know. No need to push yourself on me when I have made it clear I am not attracted to you. 
I have met many men over the years in bars and out with friends who use the same awful pick up lines and while I applaud a guy for trying, it can get old. Buy me a drink and let's talk.

I have been with the same man for 11 years now, so dating isn't an issue anymore, but if it were, I would not even know where to start.
Maybe a seminar on how to pick up men?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 03, 2016, 05:04:57 PM
   @candy Thanks for a lady's perspective. I wish there were more women like you. Its like sometimes I gotta force myself to be a dick just to get these girls interested. 

    I try to be a " good guy" but its like chicks dont want that these days.
   Sometimes I sit there and get straight turned off that I gotta be a dick when I dont even want to, because these girls respond to that a lot better..

    And the worst part is that girls will always say the exact same thing; they want a super nice guy that holds the door and cuddles with them and is polite and confident and all that stuff. But then you see the exact same girls with just about the biggest douche bag ever.
 
  Girls like you and others are out there but its rare for them to say what they want and that actually being it.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 03, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
Everyone wants what they can't have...
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on May 03, 2016, 05:09:33 PM
Everyone wants what they can't have...

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Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 03, 2016, 05:11:03 PM
To bust nuts on? I don't get it  :-\
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on May 03, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
To bust nuts on? I don't get it  :-\

if its too loud, you're too old!
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 03, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
Do you guys think it would be lame to take a girl out to go fishing and then see animals in the zoo on a first date? I mean, do you think she would like it or be like " your ass should of jut bought me lobster and taken me to a movie"!
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Jega on May 03, 2016, 05:29:17 PM
People would be good to head @candy advice. Whores/idiots respond to pick up lines, real woman want someone who's not a boy.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 03, 2016, 05:56:27 PM
You show your daddy some respect!

And Leo, do you have a girl in mind or is this just theoretical?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on May 03, 2016, 06:10:29 PM
Cheap fun date:
1. From a craft store buy self adhesive wiggley eyes
2.you and the lady go around town placing wiggley eyes over the eyes of various people and animal advertisements
3. Die at the simple hilarity of the results.
4. Sounds silly, but I promise she'll fucking love it
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 03, 2016, 06:27:50 PM
That's actually a really good idea
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Zoops on May 03, 2016, 10:15:26 PM
Cheap fun date:
1. From a craft store buy self adhesive wiggley eyes
2.you and the lady go around town placing wiggley eyes over the eyes of various people and animal advertisements
3. Die at the simple hilarity of the results.
4. Sounds silly, but I promise she'll fucking love it

I am going to use this. Thanks!

Have any more?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DeadCat on May 04, 2016, 12:51:07 AM
All this talk about PUA (Pikc Up Arists) and having read the boosk "The Game" about them I thought I would share what I know. It not brag, just things I have observed.

Moast sef-proclaimed "Master PUA's" are garden-variety psociopathic assholes focused on getting dates like Wall Street types chase money.  Here's the rub when it comes to women liking assholes. For some of them, its "daddy issues," her father was a jerk or bully or cheated on her mom (whatever) and people tend to gravitate to things that are familiar to them even if they conciously don't like those aspects of a man's personality.

Also, men who are confident, smart and good at whatever they do often come off as cocky (for good reason), you don't win gold medals if you have self doubt and if you are really fucking smart you've probaby figured that out. Although some women may simply be "gold diggers" what most people call "success" is more than just money it is being the type   of person who sets and acheives goals for himself or is for some other resaon is "charismatic."

That's what PUAs aspire to being. They dress in bizarre clothes and accessories and calll it "Peacocking" like the male birds that have more colorful plumage than females. They "neg" girls to throw them a curvebll so that they then find themselves trying to win back the guys approval (like they are used to getting). They (PUAs) go after phone numbers and one night stands because they arent looking for the a great girl, they are "counting coup" just keeping score of "10's" to compete with each other. That makes sense becasue no woman in her right mind would want to be a PUA's girlfriend, unless she just wants to get (secondhand)  attention because her man gets attention.

My own belief is that it isn't men who do the picking up anyway. It is the women who decide who gets the green light and if the guy gets the message his friends might think he picks up girls like loose change but really he's the bimbo.

The guys who pay for PUA advice (I think) just never learned that women aren't aliens, they can spot bullshit and even though they might think they guy is cute enough to ignore it and fuck him anyway, she wont fall for him.

When I was 19 (and dinosaurs roamed the Earth) I bught a book advertised in the back of Playboy magazine "How to Pick up Girls" It was very, very simple and tought me a lot. Basically it said; be interested in what she's interested in but don't fake interest. Be yourself and treat her with at least as much repect as anyone who imppresses you for whatever reason  but don't kiss ass. BE a friend. Freinds do things for each other with absolutley no expectation of reciprocation because you CARE about your friends, even if they don't blow you for helping them move.

I've had more "luck" with women when I wasn't trying to sleep with them but just engaging them in intersting conversation, not trying to impress them with what I know, or "mansplaining" but listening and caring about how what they are telling me about made them feel.

It helps ( a lot) if you treat everybody with courtesy and respsect. That means waiters, bartenders, cabbies, janitors and all the people the snobs look down on. People (women) notice that when you do and they understand that rather than making you seem like a suck-up it makes you look like a confident man secure in his place in the world and one who looks out for others and people of quality recognize it and it is attractive because it shows you look out for others.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: candy on May 04, 2016, 12:02:54 PM
Not at all.
If there is one thing I have learned as I have gotten older is to appreciate being with someone you can be yourself with. My bf has never experienced drug abuse or addiction, but yet when he learned of my problems with addiction and my past, it only made him want to learn more about what I was dealing with and how to help and support me. He is truly a gem, but I know that there are many other men and women out there who treat others with the same love and respect.
Nothing wrong with a nice dinner and a movie, but there is also nothing wrong with experiencing something new, with someone new.
If I had not met my bf, I would have never learned how to bait a crab pot and set them, never shot my first buck, never experienced sitting in a tree stand, and never learned how to make a fire without matches. Maybe it sounds silly to some, but for me it was life changing in so many ways.

Unfortunately, I believe that many women are so afraid of being alone or getting the "right" guy, they often end up with the wrong guys.

I grew up with an abusive father and and my first real relationship with was an abusive man, and that only led to a string of abusive relationships for me for years. Lack of self-confidence and self-worth play a big part in why many women will often continue to choose men who are abusive or just don't show any respect, but don't give up on finding that right woman for you and most importantly, just be yourself.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 04, 2016, 02:14:18 PM
You show your daddy some respect!

And Leo, do you have a girl in mind or is this just theoretical?
Its a girl I work with. She checks me in at the guard shack. But just yesterday she told mr " its pathetic you cant buy me a 2 dollar breakfast". So that turned me way the fuck off, cause why would I buy you anything when I dont even know you? So I actually kind of snapped on her.. She did apologize but I dono. Maybe Im over reacting. As of right now Im thinking Ima take a different girl to the zoo though.

Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 04, 2016, 02:17:07 PM
@candy Thats what I will try to do. Be myself. Its just sad to see a girl you really like " get away" cause ur not a fucking asshole. Im very happy for you though. Sounds like you got a great guy at your side.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Z on May 04, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
Its a girl I work with. She checks me in at the guard shack. But just yesterday she told mr " its pathetic you cant buy me a 2 dollar breakfast". So that turned me way the fuck off, cause why would I buy you anything when I dont even know you? So I actually kind of snapped on her.. She did apologize but I dono. Maybe Im over reacting. As of right now Im thinking Ima take a different girl to the zoo though.

Sounds like she was trying to ask you out.  Or she's a bit grumpy.  Who knows?

Pick up artists know.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Snout on May 04, 2016, 05:29:05 PM
Sounds like she was trying to ask you out.  Or she's a bit grumpy.  Who knows?

Pick up artists know.

I agree with Z. You should ask her out.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 04, 2016, 07:23:53 PM
Ok. I guess Im missing something here. You guys are cool with a chick asking you to buy shit for her when you dont even really know her? I mean whats next. Girls do this type of shit to test you. If Im a willing participant, who knows what she asks for next.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Taytoechip on May 04, 2016, 08:03:54 PM
It's a two dollar breakfast brohomodon

Now I ain't sayin she's a gold digger....
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Z on May 04, 2016, 08:05:24 PM
But she ain't messin with no broke African American.

She just wanted to have breakfast and talk to you away from work.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 04, 2016, 08:16:26 PM
You guys are funny. But why did she have to use the word pathetic? To me, thats a strong ass word. I guess I could just " play game" till I fuck her and then leave her. But Im not that type honestly. I mean, what if shes just used to mal treament... Should I be the one to introduce  her to the " light side"? Is it my responsibility to do so? Would I just turn out to be a punk?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 04, 2016, 08:16:58 PM
I think it's about tone of voice... was she playful or was she bitchy about it?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DeadCat on May 04, 2016, 10:44:11 PM
The PUA would tell you to "neg"her. Tell her (something to the effect of)  she obviously eats enough already and her clothes would fit beter if she cut back on the carbs anyway.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 04, 2016, 11:57:53 PM
Well, to be fair, it seemed like she negged him first. Not all girls are queens that deserve to be chivalrously courted. I mean, is there no such thing as a practice hoe?
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 05, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
The shit pick up artists say is meant for the super insecure girls. I dont ever see you getting an educated, well put togather woman by telling her shes fat and needs to eat less. Wtf is a practice hoe though? Lmaooo.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Guts on May 05, 2016, 01:34:55 PM
A girl you practice your sexxor skillz on.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Mashedpotatoejohnson on May 05, 2016, 04:51:37 PM
Just walk up and introduce yourself.  Thats it. Now hand over $25 please.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Jega on May 05, 2016, 05:03:59 PM
Just walk up and introduce yourself.  Thats it. Now hand over $25 please.
You would need to make a different thread for that one haha
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 05, 2016, 06:35:36 PM
Just walk up and introduce yourself.  Thats it. Now hand over $25 please.
I only got 2 cheesburgers and a peice of gum. Can our shared liking of this board make up the rest?   And Im good on ways to approach. I just thought it was crazy she was tallking money and I dont know her.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Der Alte Krieger on May 21, 2016, 02:20:30 PM
Its a girl I work with. She checks me in at the guard shack. But just yesterday she told mr " its pathetic you cant buy me a 2 dollar breakfast". So that turned me way the fuck off, cause why would I buy you anything when I dont even know you? So I actually kind of snapped on her.. She did apologize but I dono. Maybe Im over reacting. As of right now Im thinking Ima take a different girl to the zoo though.

I been dating a guard shack girl for about a year now, that's just the way they are.

 If she apologized , you're over reacting.

In fact I think you are misreading the whole deal

I may not be a pick up artist but I know my guard shack girls.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on May 28, 2016, 09:46:39 PM
Lol. You gotta be careful with them guard shack girls. Their trained to put on a smile. I did start dating her and things are going good. Except the fact that she has kids and I dont. And I just dont see it working out. Say I cream in her on accident, then what? Ima have 3 effing kids to take care? I mean, Jesus.
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: Der Alte Krieger on May 29, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
Lol. You gotta be careful with them guard shack girls. Their trained to put on a smile. I did start dating her and things are going good. Except the fact that she has kids and I dont. And I just dont see it working out. Say I cream in her on accident, then what? Ima have 3 effing kids to take care? I mean, Jesus.

I mentioned this conversation to my sweetie and she was quick to point out that she was not a "guard shack girl" but a "Security Officer"

There's worse things to have than 3 kids, Hell, mine's got 3 kids, a generally sour disposition, a .38 Special and outweighs me by 50 pounds

Count your blessing's
Title: Re: Pick Up Artists
Post by: DiCaprio on June 15, 2016, 12:05:18 PM
Hahaha. Point taken.
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