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Title: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 09, 2015, 03:38:27 AM
I have an interview with walmart tomorrow and they are drug testing me after the interview. They said having misdemeanors are fine which is good because what I read online said otherwise. I really hope I can get a job here. I was just denied a manager position because of my 3 misdemeanors at a fast food place that I have been working at for a year. I hate the job and am having trouble finding anything at all even minimum wage jobs. I am getting more depressed each day.

I was denied the manager position when I first started because I was still on probation. They just did another back ground check and decided sense I got new charges they deemed me ineligible for a shift manager position. The manager there loves me because I work hard and said she will go above the HR people but it is unlikely that she can do anything for me. She is giving me a small raise and making me a certified trainer so I will be making slightly above minimum wage. I can't get 40 hours a week and I can't stand working there. It is getting worse everyday I can't listen to music anymore so I have to just sweat it out to the sound of the oven.


My questions are does methadone show up on regular employment drug screens? What does it show up as? Will showing I have a prescription through the clinic be seen as I am an addict? Should I tell them before the drug test that I am prescribed to it? Do you think it will negatively impact my chances at getting the job? They pay $2/hr more than minimum wage and guarantee 40 hours and if I can't get a job at walmart that is going to fuck my confidence up badly. I know it is only walmart but I need something different before I lose my mind. I lost the job I love when I got arrested for the methadone DUI.

I am having a hard time with being denied everywhere because of my record. I know everyone says their charges are bullshit but I feel I got railroaded on mine. I have a DUI for being on methadone, misdemeanor possession for having my prescribed anxiety meds in my blood pressure bottle while I was driving to another state for a trip to see my family. I packed at 5 am and didn't think about it. I also have a misdemeanor DV harassment charge from 2013 for calling my girlfriend with no purpose or intent of actual conversation while me and her were breaking up.

I am having trouble making ends meet and am just struggling with everything right now. I lost everything when I got arrested for the methadone dui and possession. I lost my apartment, job, license, financial aid for school, and I am making half of what I was before plus no financial aid from school. I am slowly getting everything back but it is a struggle. My landlord just sold the house I am living in now so I have to find something else in my price range which is very difficult and stressful. Everyone does background checks and they don't want to rent to a "druggie".

 I feel I have applied for 1000+ jobs and have found nothing and I am still trying to appeal my financial aid suspension to see if I can get back in school. Getting back in school is the most important thing to me right now. I have been so depressed I am having trouble getting the appeal finished and turned in to see if I will be approved or denied. I think I'm scared that if I get denied I will lose it. Sorry for the rant I am just kind of breaking right now. I always get depressed when it starts getting cold but I am clean and I will just have to push through whatever happens.

Any info on the questions I had would be great. I just want to be as prepared as possible so I have a better chance at getting a job. I am just going to pray I get the job and that my financial aid gets approved so I will be where I want to be. If neither happens I will just have to continue trying until they both happen. I don't know what else to do. I just want everything to work out and want to have a game plan as far as what I should do about the drug test and if I need to inform the people on interviews about it. It is hard enough explaining my record I don't want to explain why I am on methadone. I feel like I am losing this war so if you got any ideas or recommendations I am all ears.


Thanks for listening, any advice is much appreciated sorry for the whiny rant.


Griffin
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Faded on October 09, 2015, 05:14:32 AM
You're all good man. Don't say anything about your methadone. It is fully synthetic and will not show up on a standard NIDA-5 test.

I worked in a walmart warehouse a couple years ago and being on stable on methadone allowed me to quickly move up the ladder a bit due to the fact that it gave me great endurance and energy longevity when working long shifts.

I think you're referring to the store itself, but either way, good luck with the job. Your piss test will be fine if that's all you've been taking is methadone.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Z on October 09, 2015, 07:39:12 AM
Yeah, methadone doesn't show as opiates on a dip test.  It will show as methadone (strangely enough), but usually is only on custom made dip tests.

You can get these dip tests custom made with your choice of tests, but most places just use standard tests.  Check this out for example:  http://www.drugcheck.com/dc_dip.html
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: razor girl on October 09, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
I was drug tested once a while ago when I went from temp to perm at a certain unnamed biotech firm (named Celera Genomics) (huge pay cut, no OT) while on 80 mgs of methadone (legal/klinik) so I got a letter from the klinik saying it was legit, put it in my pocket and heard nothing about it either way for a week or two.  I was in HR at some point and saw someone who I knew, she'd been in the game or knew it and was really cool so I asked, "I'm on done, am I going to hear about this later or am I OK?" and she goes "oh, we don't even test for that stuff, we're looking for drugs like marijuana".  I must admit I was speechless, so I didn't say anything -this was of course good news but WTF? 
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 09, 2015, 10:45:25 AM
Awesome thanks for the input everyone that definitely makes me feel a lot better. I did not want to explain that on top of my misdemeanors so that is good news. I hope I get the job I am over qualified so it would definitely come down to them accepting my criminal record. I hope benzos don't show I have a prescription for them but haven't taken them sense last Monday so almost 2 weeks. I just don't want to bring any prescription verifications in.

 I didn't think methadone would come up on a standard drug test. Probation didn't ask me about it when I got back on MMT. I told them after I had already taken 5-6 drug tests when I had my next appointment after restarting because I didn't want to get a hot UA and a warrant sent out. Probation actually does test for it I don't know why they didn't ask me. I got switched to be supervised by a private company and they only make me take my monthly test at the clinic which is covered by medicaid. I was doing anywhere from 2-5 a month when I was being supervised by the state. That saves me $20-$50 a month just on drug tests plus a bunch of time and headaches because I no longer have to call every day.

 I am not going to take benzos anymore or at least try to last as long as I can without them. I usually only get enough to last me a few days each month but I got a bunch for free and an extra prescription of valium when I ran out. I wasn't paying attention to how many days in a row I had taken them it was a little more than 3 weeks and I ended up in withdrawal. I am going to try to cut them out for good. They only cause drama and my sleep patterns get back to normal after a few weeks of not taking them but the week after I take them and run out I can't sleep.

They do their background checks through an outside company like most places so hopefully I find out soon whether or not I am eligible for employment there. I like having a new job and training I can't fuck up because I don't know what I am doing so I like that part about it. Learning something new and being in a different environment usually makes the time go by faster as well at least for the first few weeks. Wish me luck hopefully I can start it in time to get some days off to visit my family for christmas.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: theSWPK on October 09, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
Why not just substitute with clean or synthetic urine?
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: dizzle on October 09, 2015, 10:24:53 PM
I'd be more worried about the benzo's than the done.


why not just substitute?
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Z on October 10, 2015, 03:53:21 AM
Why risk getting caught substituting if you don't need to though?
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Jega on October 10, 2015, 04:04:54 AM
Why risk getting caught substituting if you don't need to though?

Addiction.  It's a bitch isn't it.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 10, 2015, 06:00:06 AM
I just took the test I am not worried about the done. I do not think they will spend the money to test for it sense they test everyone they interview. Interview went good they offered me the job as long as my background check and ua check out. Can failing for benzos even if I have a prescription for it rule me out? Is there not a law about this kind of stuff no discrimination of medical necessities or something.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Narkotikon on October 10, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
Even if you were to test pos for benzos, you'd be okay b/c you have a script for them.  You'd just have to show them the script bottle. 

I worked for Wal-Mart as a 3rd shift stocker for a month and a half in 2008.  I hated every fucking minute of that job.  There are several reasons.  I ended up not going back.  I saw some fucked up shit while I was there.  And half of the other stockers were ignorant bigots. 

I needed the money at the time to pay for my first Sub doctor and the Sub script.  I had saved some, and ended up having him give me a taper script.  After they ran out, I just went back to using PST whenever I could. 

I wish you good luck, but I fucking hate Wal-Mart.  Hopefully you'll like it more than I do. 

I also agree with being fucked by having a record.  It used to be that felonies prevented you from being hired.  Now it's any little thing, especially if you don't admit it.  A lot of times even if you do.  I interviewed at Starbucks in 2008 too.  I have a BA and had two other jobs prior to that.  They wouldn't hire me b/c of my record.  A fucking college grad with honors isn't even good enough to make coffee.   ::)   
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Chip on October 10, 2015, 02:09:19 PM
fuck that's rough Nark.

a BA not good enough to make coffee ?

What's the world coming to ?

good luck Griffin.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 11, 2015, 03:04:26 AM
Man that is crazy nark! I can't believe I can't be a shift manager making 10 an hour at a fast food pizza place because of a misdemeanor it is ridiculous. After being denied that and a bunch of other jobs my self confidence is pretty low. It is so hard to get by on minimum wage, I couldn't imagine having a felony and how hard it is. Even getting housing for me is really hard, I have a huge respect for felons who have gotten off paper and are successful because they had to put a lot of effort in every little thing they did.

 I can't stress enough how important it is to not take the first plea deal when you get arrested that is what started this whole mess for me. Everyone was telling me not to but I was so sick that as long as it got me out of jail I would sign whatever. They gave me 18 months probation and it cost me about $3000. Every lawyer I spoke to after I took the deal said that they could of gotten me off and that the charge is BS that goes against the first amendment and they throw that out there when they have nothing on you. The statute said what I did so I didn't think I would get off when I was in jail. It says you can't make a call without purpose or intent of actual conversation and they had my phone with the text messages of us bitching at each other. No threats were made that is why I didn't get a higher charge. You can get the same charge for calling someone to much or calling them to late or early in the day.

 It led to my second arrest I only had a month and half left of my original probation when I got arrested. Since I was on probation there are no search and seizure laws so even though they had to reason to search me they did. They found my methadone and that I had my anxiety meds in my blood pressure meds bottle. Even though I had a prescription for everything I couldn't prove it in jail. Them seeing the methadone made me get the DUI as well.

I was charged with felony possession, and felony intent to distribute along with 2 misdemeanors one for dui and one for probation violation. When I got out and got the prescriptions they lowered it to misdemeanor possession. My public defender told me it was dropped and I was only getting charged with the DUI. I didn't know about it until 30 minutes until I had to plead guilty for it in court. It was a 7 hour round trip that I couldn't afford and I didn't have ac I had already been there 3 times. I took it because they weren't going to drop it because it is still a misdemeanor for having it in the wrong bottle. The charge states that there was no factual basis for the charge which is ridiculous that I can be charged for something that has no factual basis but it is what it is.


I will know by next Friday if my background check passes. I figured walmart would suck I will be starting out doing maintenance but it is better than what I am doing now. I will be getting more money and more hours and the work is easier. I already work with a bunch of idiots so that won't be new. I can switch to a different position after 90 days and I figure that being in a huge place will make the time go by faster especially sense the job is so broad. Being in a tiny pizza place next to an over makes time drag on it is not worth the money. I really hope I get the job and then if I get back in school it wont be an issue because I will be part time. Thanks for all the advice I will post if I get the job so if anyone else is wondering about working there with misdemeanors they will know. My charges aren't violent or for theft so hopefully that makes me eligible.


Griffin
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Narkotikon on October 11, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
When I got hired at Wal-Mart I had 2 DUI's, 2 reckless driving charges, 1 obstruction of justice charge, and 1 assault charge.  I'm not going into details as to why.  Thankfully I've not had any charges in 8 years. Hell, I don't leave the house enough to get charged with anything. 

Wal-Mart sucked for the following reasons: 

One assistant manager was horrible.  He told me to put some returned items back on the shelves.  Some were okay, some were not.  For instance, there was a can of Betty Crocker frosting that had been cracked and partially open.  It was visibly leaking icing and was completely sticky.  I asked him if I should put it back on the shelf, and he said I was to put everything on.  I did it, but felt bad for doing it.  I mean, why in the hell would anyone want to buy that?  And why would you wanna put something that is gonna draw bugs on your shelves?  It was just gross and insane. 

One of my male co-stockers was in his early-60's.  He was a complete busy body, and bossy.  He always tried to get me to work in his aisle.  Sometimes he'd ask the assistant managers to ask me to work in his aisle.  Each aisle had two stockers.  One worked one side, the other the other.  This co-stocker tried to tell me how to open boxes.  The way he did it.  I said I'd rather do it my way.  He also worked slowly, and therefore tried to pawn his work onto me.  One night I eventually left and went to another aisle.  He kept coming to my new aisle being all passive-aggressive and pissy.  Saying things like he needed me in HIS aisle.  How I was supposed to be in HIS aisle.  How he was going to tell the assistant managers that I wasn't in HIS aisle.  I just kept stocking and ignoring him.  He must have come to my aisle at least five times.  Lazy fucker. 

A female co-stocker had the nerve to ask me how much money I made.  She was telling me she had worked at Wal-Mart since she was 18, didn't have a college degree, and that she made 11.25 per hour.  I said I made 11.25 an hour too, which was true.  She got pissed.  She said it wasn't fair that a new hire made the same as her.  Well, there a good reason for that bitch!  I graduated with honors from a good college and had my BA.  I also had two professional jobs prior to that.  I was also on 3rd shift which gets a higher pay rate than 1st or 2nd.  All of those bumped me up to a higher pay grade.  I guess she never heard of not asking someone what they make.   ::)   

The last straw was when that frosting assistant manager threw a damned box of cookies at me.  I guess he thought I wasn't moving fast enough.  That was it.  I'm not going to tolerate being abused, either directly or indirectly, at my job.  When I left that night, I never went back. 

I hated that fucking place.  Like I said, I worked there for a month and a half.  It just wasn't worth it IMO.  I came home every single morning bitching about that place.  I hated it. 

I'm sure you'll get hired.  If I did you will.  If they question the benzos, just show them your script bottle. 

Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: theSWPK on October 11, 2015, 12:22:31 PM
If anybody in a management position threw something at me, I would have raised hell and made a huge deal about it to the upper echelon. If you can file a lawsuit against a manager/super screaming at you for verbal abuse, Im positive you could do the same for assault.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Pullmyhair. on October 11, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
IMO, considering you have prescriptions for everything you take, it was kind of a dumb move not mentioning it to the drug tester. If you end up not passing, it will be too late to say 'oh, well I actually have a prescription' when they specifically ask you if you're taking any medications. Then, you've been dishonest/falsified information, and will likely not get hired. If you'd been honest, they wouldn't have batted an eye (you're covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act), they'd already said you had the job of you're drug test and background check came back legit, so if they'd then rescinded their offer, you'd have legal recourse (or at least the ability to threaten it). Now, you're potentially fucked. If they don't test for what you take, you're okay for now (it could still come back down the road), but had you just been honest you'd be in a much better position.

It's also worth mentioning that they don't need to know what you're taking your scripts for, that's none of their business, you just have to verify that you have a legitimate prescription. Drug tests are by law (in terms of pre-employment testing) only presented to the employer (or the person making the decision) as pass or fail, they can't tell them what you failed for. So, if you test positive for something you have a prescription for, it's presented to the employer as a 'pass', it's not 'pass (but they're prescribed x, y, and z). AFASIK, the only professions where methadone can disqualify you from employment is truck driving and nursing.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 11, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
I would of told them had they asked. The drug testing people didn't ask me anything about if I took any prescriptions or any otc meds. They just made me empty my pockets, told me to piss pass the line on the cup, and asked why I had nicorette. I didn't know if I should of just told them hey i take this this and this whether or not you test for it. I just figured they would ask if it was important, and if anything does come up then I would be asked to prove I have a prescription not the other way around. I doubt they would decline me just for not telling them I take something when I wasn't asked about it at all. It isn't like I lied or was purposely being secretive or dishonest. It just didn't come up and when I was taking the test I was more worried about filling the cup because I had pissed 2 hours earlier and I was right on the line.

That definitely does suck nark. It doesn't sound as shitty as my job now but does not sound fun. I have a dumbass manager who sits around the whole entire day even when theres 40 orders on the screen, the delivery time is at 2 hours, and we've ran out of everything she doesn't get up. I have to do everything I didn't realize you could make making pizza a difficult job but they have done a wonderful job at that. I think its mentally hard on me because I like to do things right and if you are charging $15-20 bucks for a pizza it shouldn't take forever to get and look like shit. I am caught in between my work ethic and morals as far as giving people something worth what they paid for and being the only person doing anything. If I am going to have a shitty job I would rather take the higher paying one I figure walmart will suck just as bad.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Pullmyhair. on October 11, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
If they didn't say anything or ask about prescriptions, you should be fine. I've never taken a pre-employment drug test where they didn't ask or it wasn't mentioned in the paperwork (surely you had to sign something). It's sounds like you're probably okay, but IMO, there's just no good reason to not be honest, but there are reasons why not being honest can keep you from getting hired. But again, that's just my opinion/experience.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 11, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
I thought they would of said something too the only thing I signed was the top of the urine cup. Every test I have taken for probation and at the clinic has a little area where you write down all meds you have taken in the last 3 weeks and they always ask and make sure you fill it in. When I was thinking about it before hand I wasn't going to say anything about the methadone because they test every single person they interview whether or not they are offering them a job. I figured testing for methadone would be too expensive for them to add to every single test but I have no idea. I wasn't sure if I would still test positive for benzos but I was going to say I was on that and then write down methadone and benzos on the paper I was kind of surprised after I left that I wasn't asked about prescriptions or OTC meds. I think I will be fine though sense I wasn't being dishonest or anything. I figured they couldn't discriminate because of what meds I was taking sense I have a prescription for everything so there was no reason for me to lie.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: JonWrong on October 12, 2015, 09:10:54 PM
You are going to be ok dude I promise. If anything comes back as a fail like the benzos you have a prescription. Same with the Methadone. You have an RX as well. Also as stated before the drug testing lab cannot period disclose legal prescription meds you are on to your employer that is hiring you. It's a HIPPA violation and goes against the americans with disabilities act. One thing I WOULD do though is call the drug testing lab like asap before the results are back and play dumb dumb and ask them "hey I took a UA the other day and forgot to mention I am on a RX anxiety med, is this a medication that could effect my test?" and most likely they will want you to fax a confirmation from the pharmacy or bring the bottles. Ive had to do this after the fact and it was a pain in the ass. It is far easier to have the drug testing lab know instead of explaining to wal-mart after you fail for benzos that "oh hey i got an RX for that"

And here is a good story that can show you your rights if you have legal RX's. YES this was partially my fault but I had a GOOD job working for a major internet company and one day at work I over did my klonopin on top of my dilaudid and methadone RX plus I was also prescribed Marinol (THC pills) for nausea. Well I nodded out on the phone with a customer BAD. Most embarrassing taped convo i have ever had played back to me when I was sober. Full blown snoring, falling asleep, missing words, lol you get the point.

Well one of the managers took me STRAIGHT from work escorted in his car to take a drug test. Failed but only for benzos and weed and opiates. 5 panel wouldn't methadone. My manager looked ecstatic! Then I laughed and said here are my prescriptions for marinol, klonopin, and dilaudid and gave them to the lab right infront of him. Nothing he could do. Convinced Im hiding more they send me back for a 10 panel and I failed for the Methadone as well on that one. He got happy ohh see we caught you! NOPE gave them my Methadone RX. Then these fucks sent me home no work no pay for 2 weeks while they decided what to do. Well they wanted a 12-panel in the lab plus urine sent out to a Dr. across the country. This was my only "oh fuck" moment because I had done heroin a lot around that time and the Dr. who gets my urine is gonna be able to differentiate between Dilaudid and Heroin on the expensive ass lab test across the country.

Then it crossed my mind... Heroin becomes Morphine right when it hits your blood stream and only recently have I seen tests that are good enough to catch the 6-MAM part to prove its heroin on the west coast (tar). But this test that wasn't possible. So I brainstormed and remembered 9 months prior I was put on 60mg Morphine ERs 4x a day and 30mg Morphine IRs 4x a day for a month but I switched back cause it sucked. Looked up the laws  and all RX's written to you are good legally for ONE year after they are written. When they called and said well you've failed for Morphine I faxed a paper from the pharmacy showing the Morphine RX from 9 months ago and said I took some I had left over when I couldn't afford to fill my regular RX on time.

Due to HIPPA and Americans with disabilities act I was PAID in one lump some the 2 weeks they forced me outta work fulll time 40 hours each week (i got over 2 grand) but they were forced to let me go back to work and said they would be sued for discriminating against me for having a disability if they fired me on those grounds as I was going through major health issues and surgeries at the time warranting the meds.

SO there is an amazing success story where i dodged every fucking bullet they through at me by KNOWING my rights. They cant not hire you for the done or the benzos even if that benzo RX was 6 months old.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 12, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
That is great news, and a crazy story. I am glad it all worked out for you there is nothing like a 2 week paid vacation. I guess I will look up the number for the drug testing place and see if they need my prescription info. It's good to know for the future that they can't relay that information to the employer so that I don't have to worry about explaining why I am on MMT.

 Do both valium and xanax show up as just a benzo? Would they be able to tell the difference between the 2 on a regular 5 or 8 panel test or would it require a little more testing to see which one it is? I have a prescription for both but was wondering about that. Does valium usually stay in your system longer than xanax? I had taken the valium about 2 weeks before the drug test so I have no idea if it will be in there or not. I doubt the xanax is still in my system sense it had been about 3 weeks since I had taken that before the UA.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Chip on October 17, 2015, 11:01:20 AM
I was drug tested once a while ago when I went from temp to perm at a certain unnamed biotech firm (named Celera Genomics) (huge pay cut, no OT) while on 80 mgs of methadone (legal/klinik) so I got a letter from the klinik saying it was legit, put it in my pocket and heard nothing about it either way for a week or two.  I was in HR at some point and saw someone who I knew, she'd been in the game or knew it and was really cool so I asked, "I'm on done, am I going to hear about this later or am I OK?" and she goes "oh, we don't even test for that stuff, we're looking for drugs like marijuana".  I must admit I was speechless, so I didn't say anything -this was of course good news but WTF?

This was the last post razor girl ever made ... and it was a happy one, a good one.

to anybody following this thread, i thought a small note here was appropriate. well will miss you, Count Zero / razor girl.

see you in heaven, our brother, ...  :'(

(yes, this is very upsetting but i wanted this post to be something happy for us to reflect on)
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 17, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
That is terrible news, RIP Razor Girl. You never know when your time is up such sad news.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Narkotikon on October 17, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
I don't mean to take the focus off of Count Zero's last post.

But what happened with the drug test and your potential Wal-Mart employment?  Have you heard about either yet? 
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 17, 2015, 02:25:57 PM
I talked to walmart today and they said they are just waiting to get my background check back. I talked to the drug testing place after I got tested and asked if I needed to tell them about my prescriptions. They told me if it went in for further testing they would call me and ask for my prescriptions. I am guessing that sense it had been 2 weeks sense I took any benzos that my piss was clean. I have the prescriptions either way but the hiring manager made it sound like it came back fine and he was just waiting for the background check to come through. Thanks for asking I really hope I get the job and was a little disappointed that I hadn't gotten an answer yet. I just hope I am all good and can switch from tossing dough.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Narkotikon on October 17, 2015, 04:24:23 PM
I talked to walmart today and they said they are just waiting to get my background check back. I talked to the drug testing place after I got tested and asked if I needed to tell them about my prescriptions. They told me if it went in for further testing they would call me and ask for my prescriptions. I am guessing that sense it had been 2 weeks sense I took any benzos that my piss was clean. I have the prescriptions either way but the hiring manager made it sound like it came back fine and he was just waiting for the background check to come through. Thanks for asking I really hope I get the job and was a little disappointed that I hadn't gotten an answer yet. I just hope I am all good and can switch from tossing dough.

Thanks for updating us.  It sounds like everything is a go on the UA end.  Even if they had to retest, they said they'd ask you for your scripts.  So that's a good sign, especially since it's not happened yet. 

As far as the hiring manager, it sounds like he's just waiting on the background check.  Since he didn't mention anything about the UA, that tells me it's not going to be an issue.  Hopefully your prior charges won't prevent you from getting hired.  I don't think they will. 

Good luck, and I hope you hear soon.  I know you need this job.  Even though Wal-Mart sucks, I think it's good that you're prepared for that.  Best wishes. 
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Z on October 17, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
Good luck with the results griffin.  It sounds like you have nothing to worry about, but waiting is still the longest part!
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: LoneRanger7 on October 17, 2015, 07:39:12 PM
Hello Griffin, I just wanted to tell you don't lose hope. I was in a situation very similar to you except I have 3 felonies for burglary, forgery, and fraud. I couldn't be a manager at Burger King when I worked there. But now I have a profession. How I did it was to work for very small companies that don't drug or background check. They do exist! I work at a company with less than 10 employees. I'm paid well. So it can get better. I got my job off the Craigslist biotech section. Keep ya head up!
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: Griffin on October 17, 2015, 11:22:45 PM
That is good to know I have a lot of respect for people who have felonies and have gotten by because it is hard. I had the perfect job before I got arrested and lost it so I have faith that something good will come up if I keep trying. I just need something that pays more than minimum wage to do while I get back in school. Thanks for the kind words everyone I have my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: DeadCat on October 18, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
I talked to walmart today and they said they are just waiting to get my background check back. I talked to the drug testing place after I got tested and asked if I needed to tell them about my prescriptions. They told me if it went in for further testing they would call me and ask for my prescriptions. I am guessing that sense it had been 2 weeks sense I took any benzos that my piss was clean. I have the prescriptions either way but the hiring manager made it sound like it came back fine and he was just waiting for the background check to come through. Thanks for asking I really hope I get the job and was a little disappointed that I hadn't gotten an answer yet. I just hope I am all good and can switch from tossing dough.

I don't mean to sound negative but try ot to put all your egggs in this one basket and just wait for them.Continue applyine elsewhere while you wait.  When I first moved to Las Vegas and needed a job, any job I applied at the local Sam's Club store. They needed someone to run their photo lab and I had plenty of simiar experience and the manager all but said I would be a shoe-in for me. Then I waited, and waited and never heard another word from them.

I suspect something popped up in my background check, I wasn't even asked to take a drug test but would have passed at that time.

Good jobs are hard to find. The government is always talking about how many new jobs have been created since 2008 and how low the unemployment rate is but those stats are all horseshit. QUALITY, full time jobs with a living wage, health insurance, potential for advancement and job security are scarce. We work longer hours and make less real income than ever before. In fact real wages have been stagnant or dropping since 1972 while costs continue to rise.

What  you have to be careful of is not wasting your 20's and 30's doing bullshit "MacJobs" just to get by because one day you'll wake up and be 40 or 50 and have no hard skills and you will find it more difficult to do physic work, you'l have less tolerance for dipshit coworkers and pointless labor for lss than living wage but then it's too late in the game to make an easy change and employers don't want older people.

It is well known that many Wlamart employees are encouraged (and need) to aplly for food stamps and medicaid becasue their wages don't cover cost of living. That a crime. It is using tax money to subsidize one of the world's largest (and richest) corproations and a half-dozen heirs to Sam Walton. I suspect you will have bettter luck with a "shotgun" approach, just applying everywhere you can think of.

But, the BEST way of finding a good job is by "networking." That is, telling eveyone you know and every one you meet that you are looking for work and in what field.  Most people will say something dumb like " Have you applied at [XYZ Retail store], they are hiring? And because you can't apply at every place in the world they then think they have actually helped by suggesting something you hadn't thught ofwhen all they did was name some random potential employer they know nothing about  except they saw a "Help Wanted" sign there.

Contact old friends, post that you are looking on social media. The ONLY reply that will really help is something like; "You know, we need someone to do [ABC] and I think you could probably do it, do you have a resume?" (Keep a box of them in your car or as a PDF or other Word-type document in your smart phone and get it to them immediately, Follow that up with a thank you call or note for the lead. Make an impression.

If you can look for jobs that still have unions.

Good luck.

ANd don't worry about the drugs test if everything you take is by prescription. When you take it read the directions carefully and ask the test giver something like, "Should I list my prescriptions here?" withut mentioning any of them or what they are for. Methadone for example is prescribed for chronic pain as well as opiod dependency.
Title: Re: Drug tests/Employment
Post by: JonWrong on October 20, 2015, 04:47:25 AM
That is great news, and a crazy story. I am glad it all worked out for you there is nothing like a 2 week paid vacation. I guess I will look up the number for the drug testing place and see if they need my prescription info. It's good to know for the future that they can't relay that information to the employer so that I don't have to worry about explaining why I am on MMT.

 Do both valium and xanax show up as just a benzo? Would they be able to tell the difference between the 2 on a regular 5 or 8 panel test or would it require a little more testing to see which one it is? I have a prescription for both but was wondering about that. Does valium usually stay in your system longer than xanax? I had taken the valium about 2 weeks before the drug test so I have no idea if it will be in there or not. I doubt the xanax is still in my system sense it had been about 3 weeks since I had taken that before the UA.

Yeah I couldnt believe I won that battle but you have a lot of rights with medical care and MMTis considered a legal prescription they hav eno business knowing about. And it will just show as  "BENZO" on a panel no matter what benxos you took. It takes a much more in depth test for then to differentiate between the different benzos. It's possible but the tests are like $700 and Wal-mart is not gonna pay that. I had a Dr that did that to me before and i saw the bill that is why I know the price is like $700 plus. I wish you mad luck bro!
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