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Title: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 30, 2015, 01:36:12 AM
Have any of you guys ran across the nasal spray version of fentanyl?  Its been making its rounds in my area lately.

The 100mcg spray usually takes a couple sprays to get a good fade going but once you get to your desired point it is very very strong.  I had a friend who was new to opiates try a few sprays and he was VERY sick.

I don't like the spray as much as I like smoking a nice bubble but this stuff is pretty nice, and its cheaper to use the spray than it is to get Roxi's.  It's even cheaper than heroin here, which runs $40 a point and isn't very strong.  If any of you guys run into it I would definitely recommend picking some up! I'm not sure if you're able to IV it, in fact I'm almost certain that you cannot, but it does deliver a nice high. 

 

Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Riddick on August 30, 2015, 03:36:42 AM
Sweet avatar. I havent ran into this here in Indiana but it sounds awesome. Plus you get the factor of it being easily portrayed as something not illegal. Glad to hear those crazy ass H prices aren't just around here too. I had started thinking the shot callers got togather and decided to squeeze the whole community or some shit.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 30, 2015, 04:41:12 AM
Thanks!

The spray is awesome but you burn through it pretty fast. Its just too easy to take a couple sprays. We usually transfer the water to a nasal decongestant bottle, I was able to rip it in class a few times with no questions. 

Yeah, the heroin prices around here are fucking stupid... I don't even want to talk about it. I guess I could go buy some morph 30s for 20 instead. 

Yeah right.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Sand and Water on August 30, 2015, 06:33:16 AM
Have any of you guys ran across the nasal spray version of fentanyl?  Its been making its rounds in my area lately.

The 100mcg spray usually takes a couple sprays to get a good fade going but once you get to your desired point it is very very strong.  I had a friend who was new to opiates try a few sprays and he was VERY sick.

I don't like the spray as much as I like smoking a nice bubble but this stuff is pretty nice, and its cheaper to use the spray than it is to get Roxi's.  It's even cheaper than heroin here, which runs $40 a point and isn't very strong.  If any of you guys run into it I would definitely recommend picking some up! I'm not sure if you're able to IV it, in fact I'm almost certain that you cannot, but it does deliver a nice high. 

 

In the interest of Harm Reduction, I am asking anyone reading this to be VERY VERY careful with Fentanyl. This is not a drug you want to fool with lightly. It has killed a lot of people.

If you must indulge, (which I do NOT advise), start with very very small amounts -- this stuff is measured in MICROgrams, not MILLIgrams.

If you aren't absolutely certain of the strength/dose you have, walk away.

If youre still intent on using it, please make sure you have someone with you in case you fall out.

Tolerance builds quickly and the withdrawals can be horrendous.

I know others can speak to those we know & some we've lost to Fent. It just isn't worth anyone dying over.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: jdub on August 30, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
Thanks!

The spray is awesome but you burn through it pretty fast. Its just too easy to take a couple sprays. We usually transfer the water to a nasal decongestant bottle, I was able to rip it in class a few times with no questions. 

Yeah, the heroin prices around here are fucking stupid... I don't even want to talk about it. I guess I could go buy some morph 30s for 20 instead. 

Yeah right.

Morph 30's for $20? Srsly?
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 30, 2015, 09:01:04 AM
Morph 30's for $20? Srsly?
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Yeah man no joke.  Sometimes, and that's a hard sometimes, you can get them for $15. I could go on and on about the pill prices here. Oxy ocassionally goes for $2 a mg here and morphine is way over priced but some people will pay that. Its just a bunch of fiends up here in small town Minnesota.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Narkotikon on August 30, 2015, 09:39:32 AM
Also in the interest of harm reduction:

Please DO NOT let your non-tolerant friends (or other non-tolerant people) use fentanyl.  Someone who's never even taken a Vicodin / Lortab / Lorcet shouldn't be taking fent.

You said your friend got sick.  Be glad that's all he got.  He could have very easily OD'd.  Don't do that again. 
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 30, 2015, 09:51:19 AM
Also in the interest of harm reduction:

Please DO NOT let your non-tolerant friends (or other non-tolerant people) use fentanyl.  Someone who's never even taken a Vicodin / Lortab / Lorcet shouldn't be taking fent.

You said your friend got sick.  Be glad that's all he got.  He could have very easily OD'd.  Don't do that again.

Thanks mom!

Just kidding :-)

It actually wasn't me who got him high on the fent, but a friend of mine who also had the spray, and incidentally isn't so smart. He once shoved a morph 30 up his butt whole. He just didn't know any better.  I agree that fentanyl should not be used by intolerant individuals, ESPECIALLY the gel patches.  With that being said, this spray is relatively benign and easy to dose.  It all ended up okay, thankfully.

I was glad he got sick to be honest. Maybe he will despise opiates because of his first experience and not fall in love with them, like we all have.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Chip on August 30, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Morph 30's for $20? Srsly?

i pay $AUD 20 for Morph. ER 60's (usually + 3 10's, thrown in). too expensive, right ?
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 30, 2015, 11:56:37 PM
Morph 30's for $20? Srsly?

i pay $AUD 20 for Morph. ER 60's (usually + 3 10's, thrown in). too expensive, right ?

That's rough chipper. 

The reason people around here pay so much is because the people who buy them all shoot and they are "almost" worth $20 if you're shooting them because of their equivalent strengths.  Its still absolutely crazy to charge that much.  Even what you're paying is too much! 

Nobody around here has a terribly high tolerance because of the price of the opiates here so it kind of works out. 2mg dilaudids were going for $20 each a few days ago.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Zoops on August 31, 2015, 01:43:11 AM
WHAAT THE FUCK? A 2MG HYDROMORPH FOR $20? Sounds like a bunch of high school kids saying, hey these pills are only good if you smoke a shitload of weed after shooting ONE of them...

Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 31, 2015, 01:52:27 AM
WHAAT THE FUCK? A 2MG HYDROMORPH FOR $20? Sounds like a bunch of high school kids saying, hey these pills are only good if you smoke a shitload of weed after shooting ONE of them...

The worst part is is that people actually buy them too.  I have a buddy who got three and shot em all in one shot.  $60 for 6mg of dilly.. its unheard of.   Heroin goes for $40 a point here and sells out in a day. Same with those dillys, gone in a flash. Its unreal how some kids will pay that. 

Maybe us dope heads should unionize and get the price of pills to come down..
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Opus on August 31, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
I can't remember the exact numbers, but I remember being told that a normal price for 100mg M in New Zealand is like $80? Something crazy like that. Last time I bought M off the street in the TL (it's been awhile), it wasn't hard to find a malli or ABG (the good ones) for less than 10bux..

~'91 I found a dope spot behind Jackson Memorial Hospital in Liberty City, Miami where you could buy Knoll Dilaudid, 4mg for $35 each, and that was the going price. About that time I met a guy in Ft. Lauderdale who sold them for $25, and also sometimes had 60mg MSContin ER for the same price. I was down there for school and didn't really know S. FL that well, but the H scene there was pretty different than it is now. I don't think they even had any MD kliniks at that time. Cocaine was everyfuckingwhere, but H, not so much. At one point one of the runners I knew in Liberty City had some white dope for a little while. It started out OK, but got worse everytime I bought it..

If you don't have a habit or a tolerance, a 4mg Knoll is a nice hit. I totally agree it's a complete ripoff, but when there's nothing else around, junky gotta junk, ya know? Cocaine doesn't cut it when your goal is the opposite direction, I got so sick of smoking crack in that place it still makes me wanna puke..

/babblin'
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 31, 2015, 07:28:49 AM
A little update on the danger of Fentanyl, a kid from town here  is currently unresponsive in the hospital after overdosing on this spray.   Its not really looking good for him. I knew him a little bit and he was just starting to use opiates.  Such a bummer.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Riddick on August 31, 2015, 09:01:55 AM
WHAAT THE FUCK? A 2MG HYDROMORPH FOR $20? Sounds like a bunch of high school kids saying, hey these pills are only good if you smoke a shitload of weed after shooting ONE of them...

The worst part is is that people actually buy them too.  I have a buddy who got three and shot em all in one shot.  $60 for 6mg of dilly.. its unheard of.   Heroin goes for $40 a point here and sells out in a day. Same with those dillys, gone in a flash. Its unreal how some kids will pay that. 

Maybe us dope heads should unionize and get the price of pills to come down..
Thats why prices get so out of hand. Because they and we know that if theres nothing else and your feining, your gonna pay that 20 bucks for the 2mg
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Chip on August 31, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Morph 30's for $20? Srsly?

i pay $AUD 20 for Morph. ER 60's (usually + 3 10's, thrown in). too expensive, right ?

That's rough chipper. <snip>

illicit Methadone is better value for money ... still 50 cents a mg. because it holds you for longer than MSC. does.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Chip on August 31, 2015, 11:25:12 PM
re. Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray: i like this hi-tech, cool and modern nasal spray type of technology.

such a powerful drug benefits from such a drug delivery service. fast too, i'd imagine. yeah, i vote slick.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on August 31, 2015, 11:59:48 PM
WHAAT THE FUCK? A 2MG HYDROMORPH FOR $20? Sounds like a bunch of high school kids saying, hey these pills are only good if you smoke a shitload of weed after shooting ONE of them...

The worst part is is that people actually buy them too.  I have a buddy who got three and shot em all in one shot.  $60 for 6mg of dilly.. its unheard of.   Heroin goes for $40 a point here and sells out in a day. Same with those dillys, gone in a flash. Its unreal how some kids will pay that. 

Maybe us dope heads should unionize and get the price of pills to come down..
Thats why prices get so out of hand. Because they and we know that if theres nothing else and your feining, your gonna pay that 20 bucks for the 2mg

I think its time we junkies form an alliance and get to the bottom of this problem.

It might take a lot of runny nose, sweat and shit, but I think with a little perserverance, we could really change the world here boys.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Riddick on September 01, 2015, 02:27:48 AM
WHAAT THE FUCK? A 2MG HYDROMORPH FOR $20? Sounds like a bunch of high school kids saying, hey these pills are only good if you smoke a shitload of weed after shooting ONE of them...

The worst part is is that people actually buy them too.  I have a buddy who got three and shot em all in one shot.  $60 for 6mg of dilly.. its unheard of.   Heroin goes for $40 a point here and sells out in a day. Same with those dillys, gone in a flash. Its unreal how some kids will pay that. 

Maybe us dope heads should unionize and get the price of pills to come down..
Thats why prices get so out of hand. Because they and we know that if theres nothing else and your feining, your gonna pay that 20 bucks for the 2mg

I think its time we junkies form an alliance and get to the bottom of this problem.

It might take a lot of runny nose, sweat and shit, but I think with a little perserverance, we could really change the world here boys.
Lmao. My life getting fucked sideways didnt do it, but if your talking sbout bringing prices down then Im willing to hold out.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Jega on September 01, 2015, 02:43:13 AM
Wonder how longs it takes someone to shoot the liquid in the bottle lol
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Chip on September 01, 2015, 02:52:15 AM
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It might take a lot of runny nose, sweat and shit, but I think with a little perserverance, we could really change the world here boys.

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Wonder how longs it takes someone to shoot the liquid in the bottle lol

:) :D ;D
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: TheSoundsOfScience on September 02, 2015, 09:45:10 AM
Damn, surprised I haven't seen this around SF yet.  My tolerance has gotten so fucked that I've pretty much moved on exclusively to getting Fent from 4-5 different dealers and yet I've heard nothing about this new spray.  Sounds awesome though!  I'll keep an ear out for it.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on September 03, 2015, 03:16:33 AM
Damn, surprised I haven't seen this around SF yet.  My tolerance has gotten so fucked that I've pretty much moved on exclusively to getting Fent from 4-5 different dealers and yet I've heard nothing about this new spray.  Sounds awesome though!  I'll keep an ear out for it.

This spray is pretty decent, but if I'm being honest I would MUCH rather spend the extra money on a patch and smoke a nice bubble than take a couple sprays.  The rush isn't there with the spray and the high only lasts a very short time.  I guess that's how all fentanyl is.  It is still opiates though. :-)
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Narkotikon on September 03, 2015, 07:16:51 AM
I looked this stuff up last night.  Did you have the 100ug / spray or 400ug / spray formulation?

I wonder if you could use Subsys (fentanyl sublingual spray) nasally. 
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on September 03, 2015, 11:25:39 AM
I looked this stuff up last night.  Did you have the 100ug / spray or 400ug / spray formulation?

I wonder if you could use Subsys (fentanyl sublingual spray) nasally.

I have the 100ug formulation.  I don't see any reason why not, other than that subsys is in a breath spray bottle and lazanda is in a bottle designed for nasal spray.  Its still fentanyl crossing a mucous membrane.  A few people I know using this spray put some under their tongue.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: TheSoundsOfScience on September 04, 2015, 03:16:38 AM
Damn, surprised I haven't seen this around SF yet.  My tolerance has gotten so fucked that I've pretty much moved on exclusively to getting Fent from 4-5 different dealers and yet I've heard nothing about this new spray.  Sounds awesome though!  I'll keep an ear out for it.

This spray is pretty decent, but if I'm being honest I would MUCH rather spend the extra money on a patch and smoke a nice bubble than take a couple sprays.  The rush isn't there with the spray and the high only lasts a very short time.  I guess that's how all fentanyl is.  It is still opiates though. :-)

Yeah I'm sure I'd agree with you on that one, it's just that the gel patches are pretty expensive here.  I'm sure if this came around then initially it would probably be closer in price to the dry patches.  Anyways I'll keep my eyes out!  Fent is pretty much the only thing I can use anymore with my tolerance and my invisible veins making IV close to impossible for most other substances.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Jega on September 04, 2015, 04:40:32 AM
So there is nothing that denatures this at all to IV use? Are we serious right now?

Edit: Well other than the dieing part. That's pretty denaturing. But other then that? Just wow.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Chip on September 07, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
i think that it's a wonderful delivery mechanism (rapid, no sharps ... and those vessels go straight to the brain) BUT highly addictive, no fucking doubt.

cleaner method of administration.

deadly, though.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Opus on September 08, 2015, 06:32:12 AM
This sounds like the stuff I got last year when some dipshit plowed into me in his car while I was walking in a crosswalk with Satan herself. Fractured my leg and fucked me up good. Ambulance came and the super chill medic gave me a nice hit of fent up the bracket, I felt it in less than a minute. I was on MD, so it didn't get me ripped, but it certainly helped the pain AND FAST. It wasn't a spray, I remember it as a liquid that I sniffed, I remember trying to hold the liquid up in my nose as best I could.

It was much more effective than the trickles of Morphine I've had for pain, no doubt. I had kinda spaced that experience when I first saw this thread, but it was definitely liquid fent meant to sniff, and I remember being really impressed with how fast it worked and how well it snuffed out the massive amount of pain I was in..

Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Anesthesia on September 08, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
This sounds like the stuff I got last year when some dipshit plowed into me in his car while I was walking in a crosswalk with Satan herself. Fractured my leg and fucked me up good. Ambulance came and the super chill medic gave me a nice hit of fent up the bracket, I felt it in less than a minute. I was on MD, so it didn't get me ripped, but it certainly helped the pain AND FAST. It wasn't a spray, I remember it as a liquid that I sniffed, I remember trying to hold the liquid up in my nose as best I could.

It was much more effective than the trickles of Morphine I've had for pain, no doubt. I had kinda spaced that experience when I first saw this thread, but it was definitely liquid fent meant to sniff, and I remember being really impressed with how fast it worked and how well it snuffed out the massive amount of pain I was in..

Satan herself?  Who would have guessed you knew my ex.. small world huh?

When you take enough sprays of this stuff a big drip of drug filled water drips down your nose. Boy does that ever feel like a waste. Did that liquid seem to last for a bit?  This spray hits you HARD and then just as soon as it came on it is gone it seems.  I didn't buy any more because the legs on the spray were so short. Kind of bummed me out.  Hard to redose too because its so strong right away and anything after is severely dulled.

Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: JonWrong on October 12, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
I haven't seen this spray but I must have had the most CARELESS Dr ever when I was started on Pain Management. I didn't even know wtf he was giving me but he took me from ONE Vicodin a day straight to as he put it "a sticker you can wear for 3 days at a time" yep turned out he thought my tolerance was good to start at 50mcg Gel Patches plus 6 2mg Dilaudid a day for breakthrough pain when my tolerance was ONE Vicodin 5/500 a day. I felt like i was gonna stop breathing the first 2 weeks everyday starting those patches it scared me. Fentanyl is no joke. But since I started on such a strong drug ive always got huge scripts of top shelf narcotics ever since then for pain because my tolerance was fucked from the get go. Sorry to hear someone you knew died. Fentanyl smoking the Gel is the only time I took a few hits was nicely high... took ONE more small one and went from nicely high to fuck I can't breathe I need to go to the hospital. It's just super narcotic but with no euphoria at all! At least for me. It does the trick but doesn't have a soul like other opiates.

Wow crazy to see some parts of the country are even worse then the last 5 years I lived in Boise Idaho. Standard .1 of generally mediocre tar was $40. Dilaudid 2s were $10, 4s were $20, and $8s were $40. (i paid $10 a month for 240 D8s so i didn't mind the high price and i was nicer about the ticket). Morphine ER 30's & 60's were relativeley cheap always though. I could get the 60's for $15 and 100s for $20-25 because most people had zero clue how to prep them for IV correctly. By the way EVERYONE IV'd there opiates in Boise Idaho because of the price alone. $30-$40 for a 30mg Roxy & the price of Opanas was so unpredicatable it was weird. If you ran into the right person who had no idea what they were you could make a killing. If people were fiending I watched Opana 40's even the trf ones go for $60-$80 & the Opana IR 10mg $40 (which are my favorite drug to shoot. Like a killer D rush but it has legs actually!)

Now im leaving back in southern cali' Orange County area. BOMB H is $10 a .1 or $60 for a whole gram! That would sell for $400 in Boise broke into points. Opana 40 generics which are like the old school ones are $15. Dilaudid 8s $10.... Morphine ER 60s $5-$8...Morphine IR 30s (much better then the ER crap) only $5... and the list goes on. What it is that makes the pills so cheap hear is the proximity to the mexican boarder and the flood of cheap strong H. It keeps the pill prices wayyyy down because people will just say "Fuck that" and buy a Gram of H for $60. And the supply is endless... ... ...Ive literally not known anyone in OC cause i gre wup farther inland and met 4 different hooks in 3 days just by riding the bus. One day I was sick and the first guy I asked for help at walmart had a personal $20 bag on him and gave it to me for my $5 bus pass lol. Man the 5 years I was gone I forgot how good SoCal is for opiate prices.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: Z on October 12, 2015, 11:37:48 PM
So, first name Jon (no h).  Live in Boise Idaho, next to Weiner yeah?  There's more too, but let's leave it at that for now.

Do you have a Mohawk Jon?
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: theSWPK on October 13, 2015, 09:47:15 AM
In Mrs. Hippie 4mg dilaudids go for $25 to $30 with the 8s being double. For the generics you're looking at $20 for 4mg.

30mg roxys/oxycodone is $20 to $30 depending on brand and person.

For my DOC, oxymorphone the prices are as follows:
10mg ERS and IRs are $25 to $30
15mg are $40 to $50
20mg are $50 to $60
30mg are $70 to $90
40mg are $75 to $120

Price varies due a large influx of stupid people/dealers inflating for no reason.

Activas brand is favored by the majority, the Global brand is generally cheaper. I enjoy both equally, leaning more towards the globals due to price. The activas you can taste when you shoot and is very nice. Globals have a better wash though. I know people who would tRade a 20mg global for a 10mg activas due to preference.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: JonWrong on October 20, 2015, 04:35:41 AM
So, first name Jon (no h).  Live in Boise Idaho, next to Weiner yeah?  There's more too, but let's leave it at that for now.

Do you have a Mohawk Jon?

Nope but me and him have hung out and knew eachother through the phile.  I talked to hime a fe wmonths ago actually. He told me when the server caught on fire and everything. So yeah I know exactly who you are tallking about.
Title: Re: Lazanda Fentanyl Nasal Spray
Post by: juancorleone02 on January 27, 2016, 01:27:57 AM
For my back pain I take fentanyl gel tabs either 2x250mcg or a 500. My roa is sublingual. I try and dose only when I'm on the higher end of the pain scale as fent is highly addictive. The gels dissolve slowly and evenly. Because of this I don't get high but do stay pain free. I supplement with ice packs as I refuse to let my tolerance get out of hand, again.

I used to do 3x10mg norco each morning, tolerance went up fast, started washing down the pills with a six pack of Budweiser, which was great, until it wasn't.

Thank you for the info on the spray!
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