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Title: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: sm0kex on November 24, 2015, 03:48:58 AM
Im trying to find out if hydrocodone will show up on the cheap 7 panel tests. I might have to take one tomorrow and if all else fails il just dilute the fuck out of it lol
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: sk8phaze on November 24, 2015, 04:17:46 AM
Panel 7:

Standard Panel 5 (Cocaine, Amphetamine/Meth, Ecstasy, Marijuana, PCP, Opiates – codeine, heroin, morphine)
Benzodiazepines (sedatives)
Barbiturates
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: sm0kex on November 25, 2015, 12:30:28 AM
Is that a yes or a no? Ive been told it doesnt because hydrocodone breaks down differently.
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Z on November 25, 2015, 01:16:07 AM
The short answer is no, it shouldn't.  The long answer is that you can get custom dip tests made that will test for whatever you want.
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: sm0kex on November 25, 2015, 01:34:20 AM
Right on i appreciate it. My po uses the cheapest of the cheap ua's lol
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: dizzle on November 25, 2015, 10:57:47 AM
Hold on here a sec guys.


The 7 panel will PROBABLY show up for it. HC breaks down into HydroMorphone in the liver, that is dilaudid. some of that will eventually break down into morphine-glucuronide I guess. I'd dilute pretty heavily.



PS why the FUCK would anyone risk a violation on a drug like vicoden? come on man, you're better than that.
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Thoms on November 25, 2015, 11:06:48 AM
Ive never had a problem on a five panel diz. But basically you are saying it can pop hot for opiates? Ive never seen it with dot tests with all the people who took norcos at work. But obviously you can have the test made to include hydro and oxy
 What kind of percentages are we talking dizzle. I got mad respect for you and you definitely know your shit so im not trying to say your wrong just throw in some personal experience
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Griffin on November 25, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
I think it depends on the test, some tests leave out pcp to test for oxy and other synthetic opioids. I would steer clear of the hydros if I were you it is not worth going to jail and paying an extra $1000+ for it. Is that your DOC or are you looking for something you can take that isn't tested.

When you take the test you can sometimes see the maker or the lab its sent to. Maybe you can research it after you test to give you a more solidified answer. Good luck with it I hope you pass the UA. How much longer do you have on probation?

I am on probation as well but I lucked out after I revoked from catching new charges. I was put on private probation after the revocation and they only make me take the UA at my MMT clinic once a month. I was on 3-5 a month before that when I was on probation through the state and they were $10 each now my medicaid pays for everything. Colorado usually does the 10 panel tests now for all of their UAs.
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Z on November 25, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Hold on here a sec guys.


The 7 panel will PROBABLY show up for it. HC breaks down into HydroMorphone in the liver, that is dilaudid. some of that will eventually break down into morphine-glucuronide I guess. I'd dilute pretty heavily.



PS why the FUCK would anyone risk a violation on a drug like vicoden? come on man, you're better than that.

I have never had hydromorphone show up on a standard OPIATES dip test.  It is common around here now, and my doctors office had special tests made with the full range of available opiates.  One time when I knew I was positive the hydromorphone panel showed, but the opiate panel didn't.

Obviously this is anecdotal, and we are talking about hydrocodone not hydromorphone.  Grain of salt and all that.

My current tests are always sent to a lab and checked over intensely. 
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: corlene on November 25, 2015, 05:19:40 PM
Only separate dip stick I've seen is for oxy since the standard dip stick doesn't test for the metabolite noroxycodone. If I took a vico din  I would assume im dirty.

Oxy and fent are not on standard 5 to 7 panel, I'm pretty damn sure if u pissed in a cup w hydrocodone it would light up as opiates
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Faded on November 25, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
I have failed a piss test in the past for pre-employment with nothing else in my system but hydrocodone.

To be fair/honest though, I do not know of it was a simple dipstick test or if it went to gc/ms.

I do know it was a standard 5-panel test though, but I was doing high doses (90+ mg's/day).
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Anti-hero on November 25, 2015, 10:45:55 PM
I have failed a piss test in the past for pre-employment with nothing else in my system but hydrocodone.

To be fair/honest though, I do not know of it was a simple dipstick test or if it went to gc/ms.

I do know it was a standard 5-panel test though, but I was doing high doses (90+ mg's/day).

If the word panel is used
Then it is a dip stick
GCMS will show everything
Even spaghetti sauce lol
 
Any drug that is made from thebain  hydro\oxy condone
Morphine\base  will be oxy\hydro morphone
Then fentynal\ methadone are synthetic
On a panel they will all show up for opiates.
A 7 panel could have lots of differences
My guess is
Morphine base drugs
Thebain based drugs
Codonie based
Benzos
Cocaine
Amphetamines
Pot
An add on would be PCP

But it was said before
Jail for a vicodan
That's fuckin silly
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Opi-ette on November 26, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Hold on here a sec guys.


The 7 panel will PROBABLY show up for it. HC breaks down into HydroMorphone in the liver, that is dilaudid. some of that will eventually break down into morphine-glucuronide I guess. I'd dilute pretty heavily.



PS why the FUCK would anyone risk a violation on a drug like vicoden? come on man, you're better than that.

I have never had hydromorphone show up on a standard OPIATES dip test.  It is common around here now, and my doctors office had special tests made with the full range of available opiates.  One time when I knew I was positive the hydromorphone panel showed, but the opiate panel didn't.

Obviously this is anecdotal, and we are talking about hydrocodone not hydromorphone.  Grain of salt and all that.

My current tests are always sent to a lab and checked over intensely.

Mine are sent out to a lab too. Extensive testing to say the least. Last month my Dr said there was morphine in my labs. Never had the stuff, so he asked about poppy bagels etc. So yes the tests are very sensitive.
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: alpha on November 26, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Here are the results of the last test I had - 12 panel dipstick

COCAINE QL (U)   CUT OFF 300 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82520A COCAINE METABOLITES
THC QL (U)   CUT OFF 50 NG/ML   POSITIVE   A
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82542D THC (GCMS)
OPIATES QL (U)   CUT OFF 300 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 83925Y PM OPIATES EXPANDED
AMPHETAMINE QL (U)   CUT OFF 1000 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82145I AMPHETAMINES DRUG TOXICOLOGY MONITORING QN URINE
METHAMPHETAMINE QL (U)   CUT OFF 500 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82145F PM AMPHETAMINES
BENZODIAZEPINE QL (U)   CUT OFF 300 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 80154O BENZODIAZEPINE QUANT URINE(GCMS)
METHADONE QL (U)   CUT OFF 300 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 83840A METHADONE
OXYCODONE QL (U)   CUT OFF 100 NG/ML   POSITIVE   A
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 83925Y PM OPIATES EXPANDED OR 83925E OXYCODONE AND
METABOLITES TOTAL.
BARBITURATESQL (U)   CUT OFF 300 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82205P PM BARBITURATES GCMS QN URINE.
TRICYCLIC ANTIDEPRESSANTS QL (U)   CUT OFF 1000 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 80152F PM TRICYCLIC ANTIDEPRESSANTS
MDMA (ECSTACY) QL (U)   CUT OFF 500 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 82145E PM MDMA
PHENYLCYCLIDINE QL (U)   CUT OFF 25 NG/ML   NEGATIVE   
THIS TEST IS A PRESUMPTIVE SCREENING TEST. IF CLINICALLY INDICATED CONFIRM
WITH ALTERNATE METHODOLOGY.
TO CONFIRM ORDER 83992C PM PHENCYCLIDENE
SPECIMEN TEMPERATURE   90-100 DEGREES FARENHEIT   NO TEMP   
URINE DRUG SCREEN DOES NOT TEST FOR
FENTANYL
SUBOXONE
RITALIN
DEMEROL (MEPERIDINE)
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: sm0kex on November 30, 2015, 02:37:11 AM
Im on probation for 8yrs smh. I most recently got put in drug court fml. They have me reporting twice a week and a ua at least once a week. This small town is so poor im guessing they buy the cheapest panel test available and since i cant piss on command esp with someone watching my piss is always diluted and they dont say shit lol. Oh andbi love all opiates but all i could get my hands on at the yime were hydys lol. Ive been on it for 3+ months now and never pissed hot for anything maybe its the dilution lol
Title: Re: 7panel dipsick test and hydrocodone
Post by: Griffin on November 30, 2015, 01:59:04 PM
I would get on subs or methadone if you plan on staying out of prison. You can only revoke your probation so many times until they put you in prison instead of letting you have probation. If you have 8 years to go I would hunker down for as long as you can and try to get to the point where you only are getting one UA a month.

I was on 3-5 UAs a month then I got arrested and caught some charges and they put me on one UA a month. I was down to 3 a month though before I revoked my probation. I would get on maintenance because taking some hydrocodone is not worth going to prison.
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