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Title: How you make money?
Post by: adamn1t on September 25, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
So im a little short on rent this month. I was going to go to this labor company that pays daily, but come to find out they are no longer in business.  >:(

So I thought id ask you fine folks how you hustle a little extra money when you need  it.  Where does your cash come from?
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: theSWPK on September 25, 2016, 04:05:02 PM
Usually I sleep with 1000 girls at a dollar a pop, but if I'm short on time I sleep with 10 really really fat girls for $100 a pop.

Instead of begging and the like, I dress up and go to every non-chain mom n pop type store and tell them that I'm stranded or something and ask if I could work for $5 for some gas. I offer to clean the front windows, sweep up, or take out trash or move heavy things.
A lot of people say no, but 1 out of 4 will either just give me the $5 or let me do some light work for it. Many wI'll just give the money rather than let you work in case you slip and fall and could sue or something. I always make sure to tell them that I'm not looking for a handout, that I want to earn it.

I can usually make about $50 in an hour if I move quickly. It's not totally honest because I use the money for other reasons, but it's much more honest than begging/stealing. Make sure to dress nice and clean and behave respectably.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: StM34081 on September 25, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
In Michigan, and probably most other states you can donate plasma with only a photo I.d. and something with your ss# on it. Where I go you get $50 a day for the first week, then $35 after that. You can only go every other day though but you can still get $200 your first week. There is no drug testing involved either. You just cant be (or at least appear to be) under the influence at the time of donation. Good luck! If it was me and I didnt have all the rent money, I would just take what I did have and blow it on dope and forget all about rent for a couple days! Lol. Jk...  I really have done that before though. Many time. 
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: StM34081 on September 25, 2016, 09:14:15 PM
Or you can find a cheaper apartment complex and wait till it's late at night. Most of them will have a small Laundry room on each floor. Get a good strong flat head screw driver and (but not 100% necessary) a tire iron with the flat end. Then go in and pop the quarter catchers of the washers and dryers. They are usually pretty easy. Especially in the cheaper, run down apartment complexes they will have old ass w&d's. You hit a dozen of those will get ya about a hundo.

~Im talking about doing this in a video game. I am not recommending committing any crimes~  ;)
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on September 25, 2016, 09:29:41 PM
We frown upon those that are silly enough to advertise any criminal activity (beyond drug possession and self-admin).

It's just plain stupid to say what you have done or are doing, if it isn't legal ... you never know for sure that we will forever hold your email addresses, exclusively.

All it takes is for LE to subpoena us for something silly that someone said and we missed it - not to mention blatant solicitation.

Think before you post or get us to remove anything that may implicate you in any serious crime.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: adamn1t on September 25, 2016, 10:23:21 PM
Ya i did the plasma thing once. It can be decent money too, but last time i did it they said there was something wrong with my blood. They didn't come right out and say DRUGS but they did say there was too much "Tylenol" in my donation and now they have to test before they will let me donate again. 

Any buskers in here??

 Im not one to beg (even though ive heard they can make SERIOUS money) but was thinking of taking my guitar out and playing to see what donations i can get
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: StM34081 on September 25, 2016, 11:47:30 PM
Yea..  I guess you are right. I didnt think of it like that... But I'm not that sensitive. Someone asked a question and I answered it with what I thought at the moment. At that present time. I like to live in the present. Thats why I'm a drug user, abuser, addict . If I was that worried about what COULD, POSSIBLY, MAYBE happen in the future Then I would quit smoking. I would stop eating trans fat. I would stop drinking soda. I would stop crossing the street. I, as a drug user wrote some shit I thought of in my drug filled head when I saw a question being asked....  Take me to trial
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dog Food on September 25, 2016, 11:49:56 PM
Not too many great options if youre not risking your freedom and dont have a steady job imo.  I have "known people"  to get a couple 500 gift cards per day returning shit without a reciept.  Idk how easy it is nowadays, but its still going on from what ive been told
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: StM34081 on September 26, 2016, 12:04:04 AM
Ahhh..   wording is where it's at.  Thanks dogfood
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Z on September 26, 2016, 04:53:33 AM
I grow superworms and mealworms to sell as feeder insects at some local pet stores.  It's just side income, but it's worth a couple bills a month.  It's pretty low effort.  For the most part we toss in veggie table scraps and every two weeks shuffle around a few bins.  It's mostly to not have to pay for feeding my geckos and hamsters as much, but the extra turned into some extra money.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dog Food on September 26, 2016, 09:38:46 AM
Yeah, that went on for about 4 months everyday till my buddy got caught with a warrant.   And at 60-75% of face value, it resulted in a huuge habit to quit shortly after   Like literally all that went to dope every day, waking up and having to fuckin scrounge change to put a dollar or two in the tank.

Tip:  dont fight back over shoplifting, it turns a petty charge into a felony. 
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: dillydudeEL14 on September 26, 2016, 11:01:32 AM
I have been looking into the plasma thing recently.  I think I'm gonna try it.  I've always been too scared to do anything illegal.  I know people who have and all eventually got caught.  I'm not knocking anybody here who has, I know everybody does what they gotta do.  I have just always thrown in the towel and said"oh well I guess I'm gonna be sick" whenever I'm out of legal ideas.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on September 26, 2016, 12:00:13 PM
Tip:  dont fight back over shoplifting, it turns a petty charge into a felony.

I never picked up any extra charges resisting (NOT saying you should try and fight security), and I've been tackled on pavement 4 times for boosting shit. I wasn't exactly fighting back tho ever, more like struggling and trying to get away, not like clock the dude and then keep running. Too many cigarettes by that point in my life pretty much destroyed the stamina I had as a kid, but I run anyway and they catch me and tackle me and we scuffle on the ground until I'm in cuffs. Then bystanders stand around and start applauding and cheering -- I've had this happen a few times at malls and music stores. Scabs on my head from the clumps of hair that were torn out as the dude grabbed anything he could to restrain me. But ya, I don't recall ever swinging on someone, too busy running.

Once got got twice by the same guard, but at a different store 30 miles away. Second time I was walking out the store, loaded down with CDs, and I saw him at the counter and we locked eyes. shitohshitohfuckingshit I'm thinking, so I start walking to the door, and he's getting closer.... and closer... Looking at me with this just EVIL "you're SO fucking busted" look in his eye -- and this MF was *QUICK* -- I've "worked" with a few security personnel and this guy ran like a damned UW receiver; maybe 6' and 180lb of muscle, black dude, so I KNEW I was fucked.

I walked out the door, he starts walking towards me, I bolt (I'm not a fast runner, never have been) and get about 50 yards before he tackles me and the CDs down my pants go flying everywhere. I was trying to get away and he started swinging me around by a string of beads I had around my neck, and this is on the side of a busy public 4 lane street, so lots people got an interesting show that morning.

As I sat in the.. um, "office" of this store, cuffed to a chair waiting for the cops; sitting directly next to me was a filing cabinet. Hanging halfway out of one of the drawers and in my sight out of my reach, but just barely, was what looked like a $50 bill, just hanging there. WTF? A fifty spot hanging from a filing cabinet 10 feet away from where they handcuff the busted shoplifters?

Trust me, I thought about it, really really hard. But I just couldn't believe it wasn't a trap, I mean WTF?

I'll spend the rest of my life wondering if it was a trap, cos after THAT morning, I sure could have used that $50 (I was ticketed and released, much to the dismay of the store; so I was back on the street that afternoon).
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Tainted on September 26, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
Not too many great options if youre not risking your freedom and dont have a steady job imo.  I have "known people"  to get a couple 500 gift cards per day returning shit without a reciept.  Idk how easy it is nowadays, but its still going on from what ive been told

have to be really careful doing shit like that though ESPECIALLY if your stealing shit with someone else (one person steals, one person returns) cause they'll hit you with organized retail theft which is a felony and DOES carry prison time. friend of mine did 3 years in prison for stealing baby formula and shit and selling it to bodegas and shitty hood convience stores. i guess it also in part depends on the town your in. they got chased out of a big chain grocery store with a cart full of formula, one of them got away but the other person had helicopters/boats/patrol cars chasing them, was in the news and shit.

was also in jail with someone who got 12 months for stealing shit from walmart and having their gf immediately return it (they'd never even leave the store, dude would walk to the back of the store, put something in a cart, wheel it to the front and just casually walk away from the cart, the gf would walk up and push the cart to the return/customer service area) was organized retail theft in their case too. its possible they may have just gotten probation but they stayed in county for a year waiting for court so by the time they got a plea they'd already served 95% of the time and only had to do a cpl weeks extra.

im not sure what exactly makes organized retail theft over just regular petty theft but its certainly  WAY more serious.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: adamn1t on September 26, 2016, 02:02:08 PM
Lol z's got worms. Thats some true entrepreneurial spirit there.

As for boosting i got caught when i was 13 for some candy and stupid shit. They let my dumb ass go, but it scared me straight.

Anyone spent any time begging with a sign at a busy intersection?
I love to hear more about that. What kind of money did you make? i know there is  someone in here thats done that.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Tainted on September 26, 2016, 02:46:30 PM
Anyone spent any time begging with a sign at a busy intersection?
I love to hear more about that. What kind of money did you make? i know there is  someone in here thats done that.

i wont beg for money and then spend it on something unrelated like drugs, but im not above spending all my money on drugs/using all my gas and getting stranded cause my gas light is on and ive got an hour drive home. so ill pull into a gas station and ask a couple ppl if they could help me out with a gallon of gas. generally ive noticed ppl will give me whatever spare change they got in their pocket, then theyll watch to see if i put it in my gas tank, once i do they come back up and gimme 10 bucks (which goes into my gas tank)
ive actually had a cop fill my tank up (either off-duty or undercover) asked some rnadom dude if he could help me w/ a gallon of gas i only lived a few exits away on the highway, he said sure, gave me 3 bucks which i put in my tank, then when i put it in my tank he pulled his car over to me, showed me his badge, put his CC on my pump and filled my tank while telling me panhandling is illegal. one of the only positive interactions ive ever had with police.


edit: just want to add, thats not something i do regularly. only happens when ive exahusted every possible way of getting money, im dopesick, have just enough to get myself well and enough gas to get there, just not enough to get home. and i fuckin HATE doing it, i feel like such a piece of shit (even though the money is being used exactly as i said it would be)
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dog Food on September 26, 2016, 06:39:12 PM
Yeah, that was years ago before it got really strict with it.  They were starting to set up a 3rd party company that once you returned so much you got blocked at every store. I dont think id be down with it anymore nowadays.   Im almost a month clean off everything even subs now and dont wanna go back to that life
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: MoeMentim on September 26, 2016, 08:05:43 PM
I've only really worked for my drug money or sold my own stuff, at least as an adult.  Prior to 18 when i got sober for a bit I was a little thief, would steal $ from family, etc... i went to aa & i guess i grew up a lot because after those 5 years i've only ever stole comfort meds & food from big chain stores & not much, only when really necessary.  Of course the necessity to steal those "somewhat justifiable" items was still because i spent my own money on drugs.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on September 26, 2016, 09:22:13 PM
I grow superworms and mealworms to sell as feeder insects at some local pet stores.  It's just side income, but it's worth a couple bills a month.  It's pretty low effort.  For the most part we toss in veggie table scraps and every two weeks shuffle around a few bins.  It's mostly to not have to pay for feeding my geckos and hamsters as much, but the extra turned into some extra money.

Z, now THAT's highly original and kinda amusing!
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on September 27, 2016, 03:14:22 AM

have to be really careful doing shit like that though ESPECIALLY if your stealing shit with someone else (one person steals, one person returns) cause they'll hit you with organized retail theft which is a felony and DOES carry prison time. friend of mine did 3 years in prison for stealing baby formula and shit and selling it to bodegas and shitty hood convience stores. i guess it also in part depends on the town your in.

It absolutely makes a huge difference where you are. The misdemeanor shoplifting charges I collected in the 90s, all 3rd degree for being under $300, would have had me a CDC candidate in California. Get popped boosting twice in CA and they can call it "petty with a prior" and they send people up for that shit; it's really no joke in CA, I'm lucky that I had a lot of experience by the time I started boosting in SF and *very* lucky I was never caught and arrested for shoplifting, couple very close calls but no arrests there..

It's probably the conspiracy aspect that pisses them off, they don't generally like any kind of conspiracy and automatically make shit really serious if they suspect multiple parties are involved in a crime.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dog Food on September 27, 2016, 09:35:10 AM
I know all the stores had like a 3 time limit before they blocked you at that point except forthe one store.   My dude had called the number on the reciept and it said he had returned like 40k worth of merchandise just with his id.   And people had used anybodys id at that store even not looking Anything like the person.  Its like that one store just didnt give a fuck.   

My one buddy had found an id, and the guys last name was weiner,  the girl behind the counter looked at it and started laughing, still did it.   Like the one store location tried giving my dude 42 dollars credit for a bag of clothes, he said no and took the same bag to the usual store and got a 400 dollar gift card.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: dizzle on September 27, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
Or you can find a cheaper apartment complex and wait till it's late at night. Most of them will have a small Laundry room on each floor. Get a good strong flat head screw driver and (but not 100% necessary) a tire iron with the flat end. Then go in and pop the quarter catchers of the washers and dryers. They are usually pretty easy. Especially in the cheaper, run down apartment complexes they will have old ass w&d's. You hit a dozen of those will get ya about a hundo.

~Im talking about doing this in a video game. I am not recommending committing any crimes~  ;)



Hey have you ever heard the tales of the washing machine bandit? Sounds like you and him would get along JUST fine...
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: dizzle on September 27, 2016, 10:40:02 AM
I've got one occasion where I was a panhandler, it lasted about 10 minutes, tops.


I walked to the busiest train station in the city, at a door that was a major thoroughfare for foot traffic bc it lead right into the financial district. I got my saddest looking face on, and started asking for money for a train ticket because I was stuck. This nice Asian lady walks by me with a sad looking face, and her friend just tells her to ignore me. She gets about 10 feet away and turns around, walks back with her wallet out and says "you poor thing, how much do you need for a ticket?" I said "uhh.... $2-3 will get me there, she gives me a $10 and says get yourself something to drink/eat"

I never did it again. That look on her face of genuine empathy, of "I'm doing something good for this guy", I mean, yeah, I spent the 10 on dope but I never panhandled again. Felt too bad.


Boosted from a shitload of stores though. If I gt caught stealing a candy bar now, I'm looking at 1-3 years in the joint. Chi is just like california it sounds, "petty with a prior" gets elevated to felony immediately.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on September 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
I could never bring myself to panhandle. I learned to boost/return before I was even strung out (cos I had a car and ID when I started hanging out in the district), so I was always much more willing to do even 2-3 really small stupid returns than sit down on the sidewalk and ask people for money. With as many Starbucks as there are out there, even in '95, I could make $8-$12 per stop and just make 4-5 stops on the way into the city to cop. Easy money, low risk -- I mean how many people really steal from Starbucks?. I did something similar with a receipt hustle at grocery stores, I could make $10 at every safeway between me and where I had to go to score, and there are always at least 3-4, or more. Again, it would take a couple hours, but it worked and it was very low risk (by this point, I had already been popped a few times and was pushing it).

Occasionally I would hang out at pay phones and bum change so I could call the dopeman, but that's not really the same thing as panhandling.

Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on September 27, 2016, 12:30:30 PM
I've got one occasion where I was a panhandler, it lasted about 10 minutes, tops.


I walked to the busiest train station in the city, at a door that was a major thoroughfare for foot traffic bc it lead right into the financial district. I got my saddest looking face on, and started asking for money for a train ticket because I was stuck. This nice Asian lady walks by me with a sad looking face, and her friend just tells her to ignore me. She gets about 10 feet away and turns around, walks back with her wallet out and says "you poor thing, how much do you need for a ticket?" I said "uhh.... $2-3 will get me there, she gives me a $10 and says get yourself something to drink/eat"

I never did it again. That look on her face of genuine empathy, of "I'm doing something good for this guy", I mean, yeah, I spent the 10 on dope but I never panhandled again. Felt too bad.


I had a very similar experience where i jumped the turnstiles and immediately got muscled and thrown out by the security guy.

it was heavy handed but some nice lady was watching me unable to pay for my fare as i was thrown out and i needed to get to this part of town badly.

she threw $20 at me and i was SO grateful. it's easy to forget about all the nice people around but you'd never know otherwise ... i felt bad that i had got in this position and that some poor soul had to fork out the money to help me sort myself out.

i decided then and there to not do that again and to avoid being that pathetic guy ... i just can't beg, either.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Snoop on September 27, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
I heard about this guy who upped his MD dose and sells the runoff for extra ends.....

But he hates that shit yo.

He knows it's a only a matter of time b4 this financial strategy jumps up and bites him square in the ass.

I panhandled ONE mfen time in my entire life cuz these punk ass dudes I was Rollin into SF from OAK with on Halloween nite, and they abandon my ass rolling my balls off in the GD Mission District begging to get fare for the BART @ 3am, pupils huge as satellite dishes.

Try playing that shit off like you're legit trying to get home.... begging with "I been on a drug binge all nite" look all over your stupid face, sayin "HUH!" All loud at people when they would ask me shit. Cuz my ears are blown out from a funky Halloween Rave.

Fuck me..... took all GD nite.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on September 27, 2016, 10:21:37 PM
Snoop, I knew an old lady that earned her money by selling almost all her take-home doses and getting very sick whilst having End Stage Renal Failure.

her government assistance couldn't cover her rent so made a 'job' out of withdrawing - now THAT is absolutely horrible.

she died ... how miserable, is that ?
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dog Food on September 28, 2016, 03:50:31 PM
A really legit way to sell meds would be to get on subs without a habit, get scripted 4 a day, and straight flip em.  They go for 15 all the way up around ne, 20 for one a lot of the time too.  Thatd be about a 1500 profit every month. Or 60 a day(if u got insurance, and know enough people to flip em to.

Thats the reason its soo dangerous for addicts to even get on subs and so hard to actually take em.  Most of my friends would get their 90 strips in their hand and go on a week binge only to be left with like 5 for the rest of the month if they even saved that much
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Mr.pooper on October 01, 2016, 04:30:08 AM
Sold my plasma a couple of times. I hated it...felt like they were harvesting humans.

They penetrated me. Took what they wanted. Then causally told
Me i was paid through their money card system. They re-injected ice
Cold saline into my veins. I was so cold. Walked outside blinded by the sun and dizzy. I felt violated. But I had enough money to reup for the day.


As for the panhandling with a sign. It seems like a cardboard sign is a instant "turn your head away" magnet. I saw a YouTube video comparing two guys holding signs. The first one said something like "veteran hungry,
Anything helps". Almost everyone was ignoring him. The second guy had a sing that said "Need money for alcohol and drugs". So many people sympathized with his honesty. So much that they were handing him $20 bills and saying "go get a bottle and relax". I was honestly surprised. People just really hate disception.




Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Z on October 01, 2016, 03:04:56 PM
When I used to panhandle I found that the best way was to make people laugh.  If you can get them to engage with you and feel interested in you, then you have pretty much won the battle.  More people give money to someone who feels good, and makes them feel good then to someone who is depressed and miserable looking.  I used to have good luck going out by the edge of a city, near a highway, and flying a sign saying "travelling, stuck, and hungry.  Work or any other help accepted.  God bless."  You have to look clean, and sort of like a college kid travelling around for a bit.


I have my theories for why it works.  People would love to travel around a bit, and want to support someone else having an experience they would love to have.  Also it makes them feel like you aren't just some junkie stuck in their beautiful city forever.  I used to make loads of money doing that one with a smile on my face.  I'd pull in $500 in 4 hours some days.  You had to move around to different corners as well.  The money usually drops off at a certain point when you've been in the same spot for more then a week or so.  It worked best for me on a highway off ramp that has a light right there, or at a median at a long light.  Something with enough time to smile and engage with people a bit.


Other standby's included "Out of work pornstar.  Spare change for thongs and a new camera."  or New roll of film etc. Works great with a cute little punk rock girl beside you.  "Kick me for a buck."  "Way too sober.  Spare some drugs?"
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on October 01, 2016, 05:50:41 PM
Z, that would make me give too.

Fucking clever ! And amusing, I've never seen that.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Specter on October 01, 2016, 08:18:17 PM
I have never panhandled or had to boost anything because I was always fortunate to make a pretty good living.  If I was short on cash my dealer would let me run up a $2K tab before I got shut down because he knew once my monthly bonus hit I was gonna spend $5K in 3 days anyway.

But man reading some of these stories kill me in just the rationale we use as addicts.  Like I'm willing to blow $600 without second thought on drugs but I only put $5 in gas because it seems like a waste.  I always blew through my actual cash and would always have to charge simple purchases like gas and food.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on October 01, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
{snip}
But man reading some of these stories kill me in just the rationale we use as addicts.  Like I'm willing to blow $600 without second thought on drugs but I only put $5 in gas because it seems like a waste.  I always blew through my actual cash and would always have to charge simple purchases like gas and food.

I get you, especially with the gas money, ahaha.

but it does show you just how much different our thinking is when we decide to become addicts, enough so to defy logic !
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: adamn1t on October 01, 2016, 09:49:51 PM
So i ended up at the pawn shop with my PS4  :'(. IT got rent paid but now i need gas so i can get to work, I think im going to have to make the out of work porn star sign.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Anti-hero on October 02, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
 
 I don't know if any one knows what blood diamonds are.

I consider my money blood money. So money I hate as a concept. I wish I had enough to give everyone all that they needed and could just spend there time with the ones they loved.

 Yes I know that's easy to say if you have money and you don't need it. But if your money came from life insurance you get to the point. Where you would really rather have ten minutes with them, then that god dam money.
  I recently just had another person die and they left me money. I don't even want to know how much it is but.
I'm going to use it to set up a trust fund for harm reduction. At least for the next year until I have my time to greave.
 When I see people who need help I try my best to help.
That may not be the best thing but if I'm a chump for doing that well I just am.
 Hopefully no one is out there thinking about doing any thing stupid because of money.
Buy a guitar a tuner and learn three cords or one good sing you can make 50 dollars a day busking. And probably 30 a day just standing around with a guitar and hat.
 Be careful what you wish for because if you have enough you will end up in court. At least three times. Might even have friend that think you should pay the to be friends. I have come to the point where this is the last time I will ever talk about money again.

 Peace everybody, And that's the price of addiction is you become a slave to some thing.
 If you really need money Catholic Charities helps akot and doesn't ask to many questions.
Anti hero
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: wanderingmind on October 29, 2016, 02:58:36 AM
Don't read this post if you are homophobic.

I am always surprised when people in threads like this rarely mention prostitution.  Maybe it's the fact that most of us are guys and saying that you let other dudes blow you for money is frowned upon.  How is that any less humiliating than begging for money or stealing?

I will be the first in this thread to admit that for a good while, I let other dudes blow me.  I made a shitload of money!  I am the type of person who subscribes to Kinsey's sliding scale of sexuality.  I don't think there are many people out there who are 100% straight or 100% gay.  I consider myself mostly straight.  I absolutely love women - but, if I am horny as hell, I have no problem letting a guy blow me.  I don't find men attractive, nor could I ever fall in love with a man.  So, doing the whole prostitution thing wasn't too bad.

This was when I was in my mid-20's.  I had been using for some time, so I had that skinny/gaunt look going on and am a decent-looking guy.  I posted on CL, back when you could do that.  I offered "massage" at 200 per hour.  I usually had 3 appointments a day.  I spent nearly all of that on H.  It was the highest my habit ever was.  After a while, I had regulars who for some reason were obsessed with me.  There was one guy who offered to fly me somewhere on vacation every time he saw me.  I had to turn him down with some made-up answer as he did not know I was addicted to heroin.

The vast majority of guys just wanted to blow me while jerking off.  I never came, which bothered some of them (I never can cum while on opioids).  I only ran into one guy who wanted to fuck me, but I am just not into that, so I turned him down. 

Some of the other ways I've funded my habit; student loans.  I am still kicking myself to this day for this.  I once got a $10,000 private loan which I had applied for while sober.  When the check came, I had relapsed.  I shot nearly 10K in a month and a half.  Fuck.  I used to always have good jobs.  I'd be sober for an extended period of time, then relapse.  So, I always had the job plus money in the bank.  After relapsing, the jobs usually disappeared soon after.  Lastly, I sold everything I owned that I could.  Car audio, computers, video games, cars...the shit we do to avoid getting sick.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Opi-ette on October 29, 2016, 07:27:39 AM
Never thought I'd be writing about this but received an offer from an elderly Dr to spend 15-20 mins @ 100 per meeting. He doesn't want sex or to even kiss but to watch me in either lingerie or panties and bra and just massage.
The total irony is that he is a pain mgmt doc (he has no idea I go to pain mgmt or a patient).
3 meetings a week $1200 could really save my ass.

We spoke for quite a while tonight and he sounds more nervous than I am (which is a lot).

I haven't made up my mind yet, but when I think about near missing my rent every month and getting booted out, it makes it hard to resist.
*taps nails on desk nervously*

Since theres no sex involved, I don't have to worry about getting arrested I suppose?

No judgement please.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Chip on October 29, 2016, 08:05:17 AM
He can afford it. I see no harm but be sure that he  sticks to the plan.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Illadelph215 on October 29, 2016, 08:07:46 AM
Being a male I'm not sure if I really have the right for an opinion here.

If I'm putting myself in your shoes with just the info provided, I'd most likely do it.

He has more to lose then you IMO, so you most likely won't get caught unless you tell. That's good money and an old nervous doctor wanting just that (I know that's still not as easy thing to do) might sound worth it to me if you've exhausted all your other recourses of income.

Provided he's trustworthy, not too much a a creep and you can assure your safe that is.

There's still more variables and ultimately it's all on you and whether or not you can remain your sanity by doing it. I wouldn't hold anything against you or judge as I and many others have done a lot worse.

Good luck with your decision and please be safe.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dopeless Hopefiend on October 29, 2016, 08:18:23 AM
Opi-ette, I would totally do it. Sounds pretty harmless and $1200 a month is a significant financial incentive. But, even though there isn't any sex involved I would still probably take some of the same precautions that escorts take. Specifically, letting a trusted person know exactly where you will be, and when you should be done. That way, if you aren't back when you are supposed to be they can call to check that everything is OK.
Be safe & go make that money Chica.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Lolleedee on October 29, 2016, 12:33:32 PM
i'm with Dopeless Hopefiend!! I'd do it too!  I, of course, would prefer to be "paid" in pain medication, but I guess cash is ok too! ;)

Even though he appears to be harmless, I woud heed Dopeless's advice about taking precautions...you never know what can happen, though it seems in this case, the risk is very low.

If this guy offers any, say, injectable hydromorphone, just tell him you can't use it, but your good friend, Lolleedee, would be more than happy to take it off his hands! :)
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Iamonheroin on October 29, 2016, 02:11:43 PM
whoa whats ur badge number? ? ???????   Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole! jk im a law abiding citizen. Just a very private person ;)

waste management ahaha thats it. yea when getting a haircut i get this question a lot or just any time I am asked its very awkward and i act really weird. kinda like this post prolly. which was voluntary. y'all cool tho. or back to haircuts the small talk man i hate it. always sports clips. great place for obvious reasons lol. they ask are you from here? no from x originally just here for a few days.. Really What brings you here?....uhhhhh idk family n shit.

Sucks too cuz the whole time waiting im checking out this certain girl like nice. Then i get her and the above happens and she thinks im some shady character now.  I dont look like a bad person and im not but idk i deal in a grey area i guess. im high af i gotta go lol
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Opi-ette on October 30, 2016, 12:54:13 AM
Haha my chicas you're my girls!

I skyped with him and the poor guy is frail and could be knocked over by a gust of wind. I feel kind of sorry for him. Widow, no time for "dating" being a doc and all.

I was thinking of somehow turning my phone on while my friend waits for me. Anything past 15 mins, come barrelling in to save me but just from the conversation and physical stature, I'm not feeling too vulnerable. If he changes his mind and wants sex, I'm gonna walk.

Will keep that IV hydromorphone for your Lollee! ;)
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Güey on October 30, 2016, 01:33:03 AM
Ah, I love these threads. Say what you will about junkies, but they are some clever motherfuckers. I met a cat in my last stint in rehab who had a kennel of dogs he doctor - shopped around Anchorage for tramadol. Yeah, trams suck, but I dug the ingenuity 

As for me, I just love to steal, not gonna lie. I've caught 2 shoplifting cases but it was no biggie. I narrowly walked away from an organized retail theft case, thank jeebus 

I got a few other scams but don't wanna go into them for obvious reasons...
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Tainted on October 30, 2016, 02:13:12 AM
Ah, I love these threads. Say what you will about junkies, but they are some clever motherfuckers. I met a cat in my last stint in rehab who had a kennel of dogs he doctor - shopped around Anchorage for tramadol. Yeah, trams suck, but I dug the ingenuity 

As for me, I just love to steal, not gonna lie. I've caught 2 shoplifting cases but it was no biggie. I narrowly walked away from an organized retail theft case, thank jeebus 

I got a few other scams but don't wanna go into them for obvious reasons...




Quote
I've been caught stealing
Once when I was 5
I enjoy stealing
It's just as simple as that
Well, it's just a simple fact
When I want something,
I don't want to pay for it
I walk right through the door
Walk right through the door
Hey all right!
If I get by, it's mine
Mine all mine!
My girl, she's one too
She'll go and get her a shirt
Stick it under her skirt
She grabbed a razor for me
And she did it just like that
When she wants something, she don't want to pay for it
She walk right through the door
Walk right through the door
Hey all right!
If I get by, it's mine
Mine all mine!
We sat around the pile
We sat and laughed
We sat and laughed and waved it into the air!
And we did it just like that
When we want something, we don't want to pay for it
We walk right through the door
Walk right through the door
Hey, all right!
If I get by, it's mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. . .

Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Güey on October 30, 2016, 02:19:41 AM
^^^^ ahhh. I miss the 90s jaja
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Dopeless Hopefiend on October 30, 2016, 06:53:00 AM
^^^^ ahhh. I miss the 90s jaja
Dude, the 90s were the shit! I miss those days for real.
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: Snout on October 30, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
Tainted! Nice! What a fucking band! They were the bees knees in the early 90s! Thank you!
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: dougrounds on October 30, 2016, 07:55:43 PM
I am self employed.

I am the owner and operator of a private consumer advocacy & document preparation company. My business is still in its infancy, as I only obtained my business license in mid September.

So far, its going very well. I couldn't be happier...

I have worked within this particular industry for a while now, so instead of continuing to bounce around from one company to another, making more money for other people than I was making for myself, I decided to take a chance and go into business for and by myself.

It was my girlfriend who ultimately convinced me to follow through with my BS and actually do it, as there wasn't anyone else even remotely optimistic about my ability to make it work. Having not had any previous experience in the running of a company, so far I have been forced to 'wing it' and learn everything as I go. Not only has this venture proven itself to be very challenging and educational for me, a first time business owner... but, in many ways, its also been fun.

...From struggling to secure an affordable merchant account so that I can process credit card payments... to tinkering with various platforms such as Google AdWords and Facebook Advertising in effort to promote myself online... to entirely altering the way I think and feel about income taxes (the self employment tax particularly)... new obstacles are constantly presenting themselves to me.

...

Already profitable, with the referrals of my existing clients generating business alongside my Google and Facebook advertising campaigns, I feel confident about the future...
Title: Re: How you make money?
Post by: dougrounds on October 30, 2016, 08:23:13 PM
I could never bring myself to panhandle.

I couldn't do it either...

There was a time though that I was sort of dating/fucking/using drugs with a girl who would panhandle... She was a straight up junkie but despite her gnarly addicition, never lost her looks... even at her worst, she was looking like a solid 8 outta 10. Anyways, she was consistently able to panhandle anywhere from $100-$200+ within just one, two, or maybe three hours time... It was truly amazing how consistently she was able to do this...

It was her full time hustle. She'd plan her entire day around it. Her and I lived in motels for a while together... I had a car and a cell phone... and she had the ability to get money from strangers. Thats all we had. All of our clothes and belongings fit into my trunk and back seat... I would drive her from place to place to panhandle... Different hotspots, if you will... she had this down to a science really... Sometimes I'd hang out in a parking lot nearby in my car, and she'd panhandle on foot... other times, like at gas stations, I'd leave the car with her at a pump.

That was the way in which she was able to make money the fastest... at gas stations. I had a relatively new honda civic at the time, and I'd just park it next to a gas pump and leave her there with the car to ask people for gas money. She'd get $20 bills routinely... I would often end up with a full talk of gas by the time she had gotten however much cash we needed.

Those were easy times, man. I didn't have to do anything... While doing this and hanging out with/living with this chick, we were able to maintain two heavy heroin/cocaine habits, motel/hotel rooms every night, we kept my cell phone paid and my gas tank full. We'd often have excessive amounts of both tar and powder... But this was like a job to her... even if we had dope, money, and a hotel room... it didnt matter... she wanted to get out there and panhandle. As long as she was high... she had no problem doing it. And the money was fast and routine.
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