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Title: FREEDOM!
Post by: Griffin on January 09, 2017, 05:09:46 AM
So as most of you know I have been on probation for a little over 3 years, and yesterday I got my freedom papers in the mail saying that I am now a free man. The stupid sleazy assholes waited until the 4th to file my motion to get off early even though I talked to them a month ago and they said they would file it for me that day and that if there were any problems or anything they would contact me and to just wait for the paperwork in the mail. They had to get there last $50 so she waited until Jan. 4th to file it so I would have to pay for Supervision for the month of January.

It was filed and approved the same day, and she probably figured I'd get it in the mail tomorrow on the 9th(My end date was the 13th). Either way I got the paperwork saying they have terminated my probation and that I am done, I am going to go make a bunch of copies so I have them for any and all reasons. I am going to try to get my badge so I can work in a dispensary or growhouse tomorrow since I have all the paperwork now, so hopefully I find a new better paying job soon because I am hating my job more and more each day.

I have also gotten my weight down to 160, I finally look almost normal a little chubby but not fat anymore which has given me a lot more confidence. April 2014 I was at my highest at 230lbs, and for whatever reason I couldn't get under 180 until I started smoking weed and once I did I lost weight immediately. Now that I can continuously smoke weed I hope that I can get down to 140 and if I gain any more weight on top of the 140 I hope it is all muscle. I have been 160 for over 3 weeks so I am hoping that I won't gain any weight and that this is my new normal until I lose more.

 I am also the strongest and most muscular I have ever been thanks to the Testosterone which has helped me greatly with my depression, and lack of motivation/energy that I was really struggling with.

I am hoping that this next chapter of my life is better and with continued freedom, now that I can drink and smoke I am really hoping that I will have a social life because right now I don't haven't had a girlfriend in 3 years and I never hangout with anyone, so I really hope I can make some new friends and start hanging out with the ones I have now that I haven't really hung out with because I have been pretty much afraid to leave my house for the past 3 years, I am going to stay vigilant that I don't go back to jail, and hope that I don't get arrested for another dui because of the methadone or now because of the weed in my system since the laws are really dumb.

Thanks for all the support these past few years everyone you guys have been my only outlet and connection to the real world as I have isolated myself more and more from fear of violating my probation, I am hoping that I can lose the fear and regain my freedom from my mind and the police state that I live in.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Snout on January 09, 2017, 05:16:00 AM
Congratulations! I remember well what it feels like to finish probation. Have fun, but not too much fun.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Chip on January 09, 2017, 06:10:34 AM
Way to go, bro !
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: nick on January 09, 2017, 07:59:36 AM
Congrats-have fun and try not to get caught again,huh.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: 6-mam on January 09, 2017, 08:10:50 AM
Congrats mate!

Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: CARNi on January 09, 2017, 09:34:28 AM
A big band clap.for ya bud....

Me on the other hand . Got off probation not too long ago. Caught another case, and bingo back on for another year of it...

Geez, I'm stoooopid
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: komoshan on January 09, 2017, 02:18:40 PM
i remember when i got off doc a couple hits of weed would knock me out cold. =the greatest :)... (now that number has to be multiplied in wax.. bleh.)
watch out for your tolerances if your gonna be fuckin around with other shit...
thc seems like the only thing you can be reasonably safe with no matter how stupid or just misjudged dosing is...
everything else, especially downers, be real careful.
i used to think a week break was crazy tolerance change, after 1.5-2 years it gets dangerous subjecting yourself back to what you used to f with.
not your mom and saying don't do it, but be real careful, of the dozen or so friends that have died to this shit most have been from having lengths of clean time cause of probation or rehab and then joining the scene again..
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Opi-ette on January 09, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
Congratulations Griffin! I can't imagine what a weight that is off of you.

Getting arrested for having methadone in or on you when its legally prescribed is such
insanity. It raises an issue I've been thinking about a lot but I won't hijack here. Just really happy for you that its all behind you now  8)
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: dizzle on January 10, 2017, 12:12:33 AM
I hate to be the one to break this to you but you need to move. Like, not a county away, but like a STATE away (or more). To somewhere that no one knows you by your car/name/look and you will be in MUCH better shape. Seriously, the local PD seems to have a hard-on for you, so it's time you do something about that. Like GTFO so they can't tie you down again...



PS: Congrats.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Roman Totale on January 10, 2017, 07:02:39 AM
Congratulations, Griffin.  I can't remember if I've seen statistics on it, but the amount of people who end up finishing probation being successfully discharged is pretty low; they are so quick to revoke and terminate, it's really an accomplishment to get through when the whole system is designed for you not to succeed.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Lolleedee on January 10, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
YAY, Griffin!!!!!!  You made it, honey!!!!!!!  I am so excited for you...you have been going down a shit slide these last few years and you are finally able to get off the ride!  I am so happy to hear this I could explode!  I broke my leg two weeks ago and had surgery on Wednesday so this great bit of news has lifted my spirit!!!

Just keep your head up, your nose clean(or if not clean, at least try to be inconspicuous!) and celebrate!  If anyone deserves it, it is you, my friend!!!!  Sending hugs your way! 

(((HUGS)))
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: lilbay21213 on January 10, 2017, 09:55:21 PM
Congratulations
Its never easy so happy for ya
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Griffin on January 11, 2017, 02:27:30 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words, lollee you are so sweet I hope things start looking up for you and you recover quickly! RT good to hear from you, haven't seen you post in a while so glad to see your still around. Dizzle as always spot on advice, I really should take it, as my luck with law enforcement in this state has been shit, but my options are quite limited it seems, and I really do like it here especially now that I can smoke a fat bowl after work every day, mmm had some banana kush as my first free smoke it was delish.

Opi-ette It still worries me, when I go to the clinic I go straight home, usually put my lockbox in the trunk under stuff, and have taken everything that would hint I take it like take-home bottles and appt reminders out of my car. I am hoping that with time I can begin to worry less and less about this kind of stuff and actually live my life, I will stay vigilent to not be arrested but I don't want it to be like it has were it is controlling my life.

Carni that sucks!! That is seriously my biggest fear right now, or just at any time I don't think I am going to be able to do this again, hopefully if I do get arrested its in denver where they give methadone and I will just ask for county time instead of probation, or I will fly to thailand and never look back. I am going to try and get my passport next week, they told me that I couldn't apply for it while still on probation.

Komoshan I appreciate the advice, I am hoping to steer clear of everything but definitely won't be jumping back in full throttle to anything, I lost my benzo script when I lost my medicaid last month so luckily the weed is way better then benzos and I don't have to rely on them for a legal high anymore. Thanks everyone for the kind words, I am feeling better every single day and am going to try to get my life back so I can enjoy it again.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: nick on January 11, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
Obviously I don't want your address,but could you tell me which state,county and city/town charged you with the DUI for methadone.

If you don't want to be that specific in public please message me privately.

P.S. I must admit,I was thinking the same as Dizzle-moving would be a good idea.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Roman Totale on January 12, 2017, 12:25:49 AM
Obviously I don't want your address,but could you tell me which state,county and city/town charged you with the DUI for methadone.

If you don't want to be that specific in public please message me privately.

P.S. I must admit,I was thinking the same as Dizzle-moving would be a good idea.

I've personally seen a drunk/impaired-driving case go forward primarily on the basis of the drivers admitting to having dosed his daily methadone twelve hours earlier.  Plus similar charges brought against drivers mainly because they admitted to taking -- on doctor's orders -- (low-dose) benzodiazepines, (non-scheduled) muscle relaxers, anti-convulsants, and ADHD meds.  The "Drug Recognition Experts" that the cops send around are a sick joke.  It's madness.  And it being a valid prescription consumed properly isn't a defense against the prima facie case, at least nowhere in the US that I know of.

So of course, never drive with an exposed pill bottle in the car, however benign and legit; and (in the US at least) never answer a cop's question about: whether you're on methadone/bupe maintenance, whether you regularly take any meds, or whether you've taken any medication today.  Or for that matter whether you've had anything to drink today, or smoked any pot at any point (regardless of its state legal status to possess).
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Opi-ette on January 12, 2017, 03:21:42 AM
When you say never answer a cops questions about what you are on or have taken, do you mean literally refuse, like you want to talk to your lawyer, or to lie and say no?

Getting arrested for being on legit meds really chaps my hide. So everyone on pain meds or anti anxiety meds, maintenance meds, depression meds, should stay home and lock themselves in their house? Ride a bike to work? ARGH!

Griffin, I'm sure over time, the fear will subside. It will just take some time. Stay vigilant and you'll be fine. 
Can I ask, the take home bottles...do they have labels on them, like with your name and
contents of the bottle?
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Griffin on January 12, 2017, 04:27:38 AM
It was in Kit Carson County Colorado, which is on I-70 right before you hit kansas from colorado. Opi-ette they do have my name, it says 90 mg methadone which day it was dispensed which day its supposed to be taken, my doctor and clinics info and a little warning that says keep out of reach of children could be fatal if taken, and its illegal to transfer it to anyone.

Yeah, now that I am smoking weed I am worried about driving even more because its just one more thing, but I am going to keep it in the trunk at all times that I have it, and try to make sure that its been a long while after smoking until I drive, especially since I have no tolerance and one or two hits can floor me. Unfortunately no amount of time really is good if they blood test you but the signs that would show you smoked weed usually dissipate within a few hours for me.

As always thanks for the advice RT, I am trying to find out if its legal to smoke on my back porch like it's connected to the house but it only has screens and they are ripped no windows so it isn't fully enclosed or whatever, all the houses next to me are vacant but across the street is a commercial property with businesses inside which is worries me more then if it were just houses but I highly doubt they can smell it across the street if I am on my back porch, but that cop tripped me out when he walked outside my house for 20 minutes when it was 0 degrees outside and snowy that day i stupidly smoked in my car because it was freezing outside. I hate cops, it's sad that I am this sketched out over something legal, and am always worried any time i leave my house. its awful
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Roman Totale on January 12, 2017, 05:32:28 AM
When you say never answer a cops questions about what you are on or have taken, do you mean literally refuse, like you want to talk to your lawyer, or to lie and say no?

Literally refuse to answer the questions, in as straightforward and calm a way as possible -- I know, this is much easier said than done. Lying can blow up in your face and asking for a lawyer is premature at that point. (During post-arrest interrogation, asking for a lawyer is the only way to get them to stop re-starting the interrogation after a bit even if you said you weren't going to answer.)

I know there are situations where it makes sense to cooperate with cops, and there are cops that will beat the shit out of you if you try to hold your own, and nobody wants to be a smart-mouth prick.  But with these kinds of DUIs (really all DUIs), people truly talk (and walk -- never do the field sobriety tests either!) themselves into arrest and conviction in so many cases.  The cops count on being able to intimidate or bullshit the driver into volunteering most of the incriminating evidence, especially in the close cases.

Finally, refuse any examination that a "Drug Recognition Expert" wants to do at the police station, if you're brought in. They are infuriating clowns that need to be shut down.
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Opi-ette on January 12, 2017, 05:55:48 AM
From what I remember, when my BIL was pulled over (had been drinking) he refused the
field sobriety test and they brought him in because the refusal is an admission of guilt? *maybe this varies by state* This was years ago so my memory is foggy but anyway, he wanted to go to trial rather than admit guilt, but spent the night behind bars.

I've never heard of a Drug recognition expert, so I just googled it and it said they are trained to identify if someones driving is impaired by drugs, but if they aren't there in the police car when the person is pulled over, then how can they identify/analyze someones driving after the fact? Being examined at the police station after the fact?
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Opi-ette on January 12, 2017, 06:00:22 AM
Griffin I'm glad you are being careful with the weed and driving. Things like waiting for the stop sign to turn green is a prime example. I can't drive stoned at all. I drive better drunk than stoned.

Again, I'm so glad its all over for you. I've been following your story since you joined the phile.

Free at last, free at last!!  ^-^
Title: Re: FREEDOM!
Post by: Roman Totale on January 12, 2017, 07:00:45 AM
I've never heard of a Drug recognition expert, so I just googled it and it said they are trained to identify if someones driving is impaired by drugs, but if they aren't there in the police car when the person is pulled over, then how can they identify/analyze someones driving after the fact? Being examined at the police station after the fact?

Bingo.  They do some pseudo-nursing evaluations that are pretty clearly meaningless (BP, heart rate, body temp), engage in a bunch of sham optometry they have no qualifications for (deciding if a stranger's pupils at a given moment are constricted or dilated, measuring whether reaction time to light is "fast" or "slow," determining whether there horizontal and/or vertical gaze nystagmus is present, judging whether there's "proper" eye convergence), move the same stranger's arms around to feel if his/her "muscle tone" is "normal" or "flaccid," and that's basically it.  Then off to the matrix to plug in the results and figure out what drugs are obviously impairing this person.... a little from column A, a little from column B -- no problem, Disassociative Anaesthetics and CNS Stimulants and CNS Depressants, says expert opinion.

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From what I remember, when my BIL was pulled over (had been drinking) he refused the
field sobriety test and they brought him in because the refusal is an admission of guilt? *maybe this varies by state* This was years ago so my memory is foggy but anyway, he wanted to go to trial rather than admit guilt, but spent the night behind bars.

In most states you can refuse the field sobriety tests and the roadside breathalyzer, but not the one in the station without at least getting a suspension or possibly another charge.  Even if refusing the FSTs is a separate charge in a state, it's not an admission of guilt as to DUI.
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