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Title: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: makita on September 17, 2015, 04:50:11 PM
http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/these-shameless-cocaine-ads-prove-70s-were-hell-time-be-alive-166927

These Shameless Cocaine Ads Prove the '70s Were a Hell of a Time to Be Alive Need an ivory spoon? A gold razor? By David Griner

    September 15, 2015, 10:30 AM EDT

Inspired by the hit Netflix series Narcos, about the exploits of Pablo Escobar, some fans decided to dig up some of the period's not-so-subtle ads for cocaine paraphernalia.

They posted their finds, clipped from drug magazines ranging from 1976 to 1981, to art and culture site The World's Best Ever. From there, the ads, some of which you can browse below, have quickly traveled the world, being featured by London-based magazine Don't Panic and in an Imgur gallery that was near the top of today's front page on Reddit.

While drug paraphernalia and merchandise ads have remained in circulation for decades, with marijuana-related items obviously being a hot industry today, it's fascinating to look back on the highly specific time when cocaine was king.

(In case you're wondering, drug paraphernalia ads are generally legal in the U.S., though some states such as Ohio and Nebraska do have specific ads outlawing them.)

You should definitely check out the full set at The World's Best Ever (http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2015/09/13/back-in-the-day-when-they-used-to-market-cocaine/), but here are a few of our favorites:

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Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Taytoechip on September 17, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
The Hooter is the best thing i have ever seen
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Illadelph215 on September 17, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
This makes me wish I was in my prime during the 70s even more, 90s would be a close second though.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 17, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
This makes me wish I was in my prime during the 70s even more, 90s would be a close second though.

Iwas. Everything was very diffferent then.And cocaine accesories arent new. They were big around the end of the 1800's as well.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Illadelph215 on September 17, 2015, 08:51:25 PM
Boy do I envy you, what would you say some of the biggest differences are from then? Were you into the scene more then it now? Or the same?
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Zoops on September 17, 2015, 08:57:03 PM
Wish I had me some of that (fake) coke in the pictures right about now. Need a lil pick-me-up.

And I agree, the "hooter" is undoubtedly the coolest thing since sliced bread.

Me, I just use a plain old piece of glass, a blade or plastic card, and a plastic straw for both my dope and coke. Well, a stem with some copper scouring pad inserted in one end for the coke.

And hey, is it pretty much common practice to inhale a few drops of water up the nose after doing a line of dope or coke or whatever? That was taught to me when I was just a baby, and it has always served me well.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Illadelph215 on September 17, 2015, 09:12:43 PM
Never heard of the drops of water inhale after as I always thought water up the nose during a binge was detrimental to the process but then again pretty sure my nose is fuggeddd so maybe you learned a trick I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Faded on September 17, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
You can still buy those Hooter/Hoover snorters all over the web. Seen them for the past decade at least.

A quick google search and you can get one on amazon for 6 bucks shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/NASAL-VACUUM-SNIFFER-SNORTER-Silver/dp/B00MO2JXAK

Other places have different versions/styles too if you look around.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 18, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
Boy do I envy you, what would you say some of the biggest differences are from then? Were you into the scene more then it now? Or the same?

CRAP! I wrote a fairly long list of things that I think have changed and it vanished when I went to post it.

Here are a few I remember writing:

People of all ages were more hopeful about the future.

Viet Nam had made people aware that we can't win all wars, something we have unlearned since then even in the face of Bush's disasters in Iraq and Afgahnistan.

Ronald Reagan was a right-wing wacko who could NEVER ina miliion years become president. Not unlike Donal Trump. Although Trump was then as much of a buffoon as he is today and Spy magazine famously called him "A short-fingered vulgarian."

People believed (correctly) that not all problems can be solved by the "free market" many require government intervention and the use of tax dollars.

People were much more open to the idea of recreational drug use. The 60's college kids were inhereting the power structure and drug use was not shocking or so hated as it has become since then.

Cocaine in particular was romanitcized in popular culture. It was generally associatd with sex and eroticism and "Miami Vice" was the day's "Breaking Bad."

Unions were a real force and the main force behind the Democratic party until Reagan began vilifying and destroying them. We knew that that organized labor was not Communism and it had saved generations of working people from miserable lives as wage slaves. Together with the GI Bill they fucking CREATED the Middle Class that is now all but gone. We eventually took the standard of living they enabled for granted and lost it because we did.

"Businessmen" were often the criminals in the TV shows. Their crimes were often embezzeling from charities or their employees, bribing gvenement officials and cheating people. Now the criiminals are Arab terrorists, Drunk Drivers and sexual predators. Greed isn't as vilified now.

Recreational sex was available for everybody. Married people were having "key parties." One night-stands were no big deal. (i'm not saying EVERYBODY was screwing like rabbits on X but people were, in general, more openly liberal about sex.

Herpes was about THE WORST STD we could imagine and that was the beginning of the end of the good times. When AIDS came sexuality and IV drug use became scary, dangerous thngs for most people.

(Good Lord, do I miss friendly, guilt-free unprotected and boundry pushingsex with random women. And men were becoing much more aware  of the importance of satisfying their female partners.)

The ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) was a REAL thing and came close to being put up for a vote.

Many Gay people were way gayer. No offense ot our homosexual members, but the gay pride parades of the 70's were over the top; wildly, freely and proudly kinky-queer, feather boas and asses hanging out of leather chaps gay. AIDS decimated that entire sub-culture. For instance, most cities had things like bath houses while predomenantly gay, hetero ones existed too and AIDS shut those down big time.

Schools had "smoking areas: for students (over 16, I think) who had parental consent. Many of us got stoned before during and after school and most teachers turned a blind eye.

Pot was usually brown Mexican Brick weed and $40/oz. Coke was always powder (not crack, but "freebase" was gaining traction) and $100/g. I saw on Drugs Inc. it is now only $40/g in NYC.  Is that tue? I quit smoking grass when I was 19 after 5 years of almost everyday smoking becasue I would get paranoid and have "unwelcome introspection." I understand this is less true with the new strains.

After school we didn't have video games or so many organized activities and were outside fucking around and using our imaginations, dreaming big and doing shitloads of minor crimes like good juvinile delinquints.

Things like arts, theatre, music, and clubs, not just sports were offered in  school and as after school and evening activities and the school boards funded them because their value was understood.

Early '80's Madonna was fucking SEXY rolling around in a wedding dress/lingerie.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHW5RVvg2v4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqbQIturBGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqbQIturBGs)

Getting a college education was not just fancy vocational training that put people in crushing debt but was designed to make you a critical thinking, enlightend person. In college we had to defend our positions and opinions with reason and facts, not just knuckle under to "politicaly correct" speech and self identification (You are a White Supremacist? Well, that's disgusting to me but I respect your right to be wrong and expect you to own and defend your position and will not banish you for it as long as your actions don't cross certain lines.)

Child molestation was probably worse and harder to prove, especially men like priests and scout leaders.We had a female student teacher who was definitely screwing male students and we kept our mouths shut and hoped to be next.

Cars polluted a lot more. Leaded gas made city living much less healthy. Coroners could tell how long people had been in LA before they died by sampling lung tissue for pollutants.

People weren't so afraid and suspicious of each other and we took more chances, not always for the better. I hitchiked thousands of miles and looking back at it now am amazed I wasn't abducted, raped or simply murdered. I did, however do so wearing a Buck "Special" sheath knife with a razor sharp pointed blade http://www.amazon.com/Buck-Knives-Special-Leather-Sheath/dp/B00TPNOUJA/ref=pd_sim_200_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1SRFGEPKW3343GNFRWAN&dpID=31NQ9V55H4L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_  (http://www.amazon.com/Buck-Knives-Special-Leather-Sheath/dp/B00TPNOUJA/ref=pd_sim_200_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1SRFGEPKW3343GNFRWAN&dpID=31NQ9V55H4L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_)and often traveled with a friend.

We had some wild experiences including getting picked up by girls, pot-smoking cops and a fair number of gay/bi men who took "No" for an answer, and nobody who didn't. The sheath knife on my belt probably gave my "No" more authority but cops never took it from me.

Those are some things I remember about being a teen in the 70's and a college student in the early to mid 80's. They are my opinions and I believe them to be true and not too colored by the haze of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Zoops on September 18, 2015, 03:11:34 AM
Boy do I envy you, what would you say some of the biggest differences are from then? Were you into the scene more then it now? Or the same?

CRAP! I wrote a fairly long list of things that I think have changed and it vanished when I went to post it.

Here are a few I remember writing:

People of all ages were more hopeful about the future.

Viet Nam had made people aware that we can't win all wars, something we have unlearned since then even in the face of Bush's disasters in Iraq and Afgahnistan.

Ronald Reagan was a right-wing wacko who could NEVER ina miliion years become president. Not unlike Donal Trump. Although Trump was then as much of a buffoon as he is today and Spy magazine famously called him "A short-fingered vulgarian."

People believed (correctly) that not all problems can be solved by the "free market" many require government intervention and the use of tax dollars.

People were much more open to the idea of recreational drug use. The 60's college kids were inhereting the power structure and drug use was not shocking or so hated as it has become since then.

Cocaine in particular was romanitcized in popular culture. It was generally associatd with sex and eroticism and "Miami Vice" was the day's "Breaking Bad."

Unions were a real force and the main force behind the Democratic party until Reagan began vilifying and destroying them. We knew that that organized labor was not Communism and it had saved generations of working pole from miserable lives as wage slaves. Together with the GI Bill they fucking CREATED th eMiddle Calss that is now all but gone. We eventually took th estandard of living they enabled for granted and lost it because of that.

"Businessmen" were often crimnals in the TV shows. Their crimes were often embezzeling form charities or their employees, bribing gvenement officials and cheating people. Now the criiminals are Arab terrorists, Drunk Drivers sexual predators. Greed isn't as vilified.

Sex was recreational for everybody. Married people were having "key parties." One night-stands were no big deal.
Herpes was about THE WORST STD we could imagine and that was the beginning of the end of the good times. When AIDS came sexuality and IV drug use became scary, dangerous thngs for most people.

(Good Lord, do I miss friendly, guilt-free unprotected sex with random women.)

The ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) was a REAL thing and came close to being put up for a vote.

Many Gay people were way gayer. No offense, but the gay pride parades of the 70's were over the top wildly, freely and proudly kinky-queer, feather boas and asses hanging out of leather chaps gay. AIDS decimated that entire sub-culture. For instance, most cities had things like bath houses while predomenantly gay, hetero ones existed too and AIDS shit those down big time.

Schools had "smoking areas: for students (over 16, I think) who had parental consent. Many of us got stoned before during and after school and most teachers turned a blind eye.

Pot was usually brown Mexican Brick weed and $40/oz. Coke was always powder (not crack, but 'freebase was gaining traction) and $100/g. I saw on Drugs Inc it is now only $40 in NYC. Is that tue? I catually quit smoking grass when I was 19 after 5 years of almost everyday smoking becasue I would get paranoid and have "unwelcome introspection." I understand this is less true with the new strains.

After school we didn't have video games or so many organized activities and were outside fucking around and using our imaginations.

Things like arts, theatre, music, and clubs, not just sports were offered in  school and as after school and evening activities and the school boards funded them because their value was understood.

Madonna was fucking SEXY.

Getting a college education was not just fancy voctional training that put people in crushing debt but designed to make you a critical thinking, enlightend person. In college we had to defend our positions and opinions with reason and facts, not just knuckle under to "politicaly correct" speech and self identification (yeare a White Supremacist? Well, that's disgusting to me but I respect your right to be wrong and expect you to own and defend your position and will not banish you for it as long as your actions don't cross certain lines.

Child molestation was probably worse and harder to prove.

Cars polluted a lot more.

People wern't so afraid and we took more chances, not always for the better. I hitchiked thousands of miles and looking back at it now am amazed I wasn't abducted, raped or simply murdered. I did, however do so wearing a Buck General sheath knife with a razor sharp pointed blade. ( http://www.buckknives.com/product/120-general/0120FAM01/ ) and often traveled with a friend. We had some wild experiences including getting picked up by girls, pot-smoking cops and a fair number of gay/bi men who took "No" for an answer, and nobody who didn't. The sheath knife on my belt probably gave my "No" more authority. but cops never took it from me.

Those are some things I remeber about being a teen in the 70's and a college student in the early to mid 80's.

They still had "smoker's court" in HS in the late 80's. All the metalheads in their denim Iron Maiden and Motorhead jackets out there smokin.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: jdub on September 18, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
The Hooter is the best thing i have ever seen

No way. The elephant tooter in the frost-ade kit ftw. I had a much less ornate version. The hooter is ok, but the wishbone shape that allows you to get powder up both nostrils at once is a game changer.

And just to touch on one of dc's points- one thing that drives me nuts about my generation is his greed and materialism have become virtues. People look at movies like Wolf of Wall st. And they admire that shit. It was a cool movie and I like drugs but fuck. All these college grads moving to SF wanna be the next mark fuckerberg. See also the rates of grads from top colleges getting into finance vs. medicine or even social work. Bums me out.
 
Also, DC, you mention 60's kids inheriting the power structure, but they're ceo's and politicians now and look where we are.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Illadelph215 on September 18, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Damn zoots your really did answer my question, very interesting! I'm in a union now and feel very lucky...also scared because idk how it has survived this long. It's a strong union but once the car unions in Detroit go so will ours and you always here rumors on that. Thanks for the read!
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 18, 2015, 11:32:42 PM
The Hooter is the best thing i have ever seen

No way. The elephant tooter in the frost-ade kit ftw. I had a much less ornate version. The hooter is ok, but the wishbone shape that allows you to get powder up both nostrils at once is a game changer.

And just to touch on one of dc's points- one thing that drives me nuts about my generation is his greed and materialism have become virtues. People look at movies like Wolf of Wall st. And they admire that shit. It was a cool movie and I like drugs but fuck. All these college grads moving to SF wanna be the next mark fuckerberg. See also the rates of grads from top colleges getting into finance vs. medicine or even social work. Bums me out.
 
Also, DC, you mention 60's kids inheriting the power structure, but they're ceo's and politicians now and look where we are.


Oh, definitely they sold out along the way, it was incremental.. That didn't really happen in full force until they really started making the big bucks and Reagan came along and told us we should all be rich and banks helped by giving everyone credit. I remeber when the original Wall Street with Charlie Sheen came out and it galmorzed finance while at the same time told the story of an ambitious young kid sellingout his father;s airline and it's union.

So as far as drug use was in the 70's it was cooler but then the Baby Boomers started having kids and found Jesus.; The sellout was gradual, but you are corect, it did happen.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 18, 2015, 11:59:54 PM
Damn zoots your really did answer my question, very interesting! I'm in a union now and feel very lucky...also scared because idk how it has survived this long. It's a strong union but once the car unions in Detroit go so will ours and you always here rumors on that. Thanks for the read!


Uhh..? You're welcome?
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Daughter of Dionysus on September 20, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Looking at some of this
I just began wondering
If people like Escobar and George Jung
Had things like those
Especially things as extravagant
As the ivory paraphernalia

To own something like that
And be okay
With where it came from
You'd prolly have to
Jam allota coke up yer nose

Than again it was the 70s
FTW
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 20, 2015, 12:19:25 PM
Drug use has been a major but forgotten factor in many, many human endeavors, certainly among creative people but many others who have "pushed the envelope" in all ways have been under the influence of something.

I was watching a History Channel (I think) doc about drug use in WW2. I had heard before that Hitler had a doctor giving him daily injections of speed but I learned it was methamphetamine and it was in a drug cocktail his doctor gave him every morning because he couldnt get out of bed without it.

And all that horrible shit the German troops did as they marched East into Russia? They were all taking "Pervitin" - pills made from methamphetamine, just gobbling them which explains how they could do some of thise twisted things they did w/o hesitation. Can you imagine a trained ARMY fully equipped on a crank binge? That would scare the shit out of any sane person.

Aldus Huxley (Brave New World) was an LSD proponent and at the time LSD was legal and tripping was an "in" thing to do in th artistic. literary and wealthy circles in cultrual centers like NYC  and others.

We've now had 2 generations (since Nixon began the WoD) grow up believing that drugs are this evil dark thing, and are only consumed by bent people but historically that just isn't true. (Despite what I just wrote about the Nazis, hahaha)



Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Narkotikon on September 21, 2015, 01:48:32 PM
@ the Madonna videos:

I appreciate the first one, as it's very pertinent to the 80's.  Especially her live rendition on stage at the MTV Video Music Awards.  I think it was a controversy at the time.  People saying it should have been censored.

As for the second Madonna video, she's WAY too old to be doing that shit now.  It's just sad and pathetic.  I'm not trying to be an ageist or sexist, but I think it's gross she's still on stage in her lingerie, writhing on the floor.  It just doesn't look good.  I'd say that about any "elderly" person, woman or man.  She's what, like in her late-50's or early-60's now.  It's time to hang up the garter belt. 

And I'm no pro at discerning female anatomy, but did I just see her labia majora there?   

I appreciated some of those things Deadcat said about the cultural history of America's past 50 years.  I've got to say though that my parents were even older than the kids in the 60's.  They were born in the early 1930's and very early 1940's; my paternal grandparents were born in 1890 and 1896 for what it's worth.  I never met him obviously.  He died in the 50's.  I "met" her when I was a very small child.  I say "met" b/c I don't remember.  She died in the mid-80's in her 90's.  Anyway, my parents definitely hated drugs.  My parents' families did too. 

I know I shouldn't generalize, but I always assumed most people of their generation did.  Things from the 40's and 50's about "reefer madness," etc.  I don't know what they said about heroin, but it can't be good.  As for prescription drug abuse, I'm sure it was very common.  Amphetamine / Methamphetamine "diet" pills.  Various painkillers.  Barbiturates for anxiety / sleep.  But even though it was common, I don't think people considered it the same as illegal drugs.  Illegal drugs were very much pegged as being bad.  Morally bad.  The whole "if you use drugs you're a bad person:" thing. 

I know I was raised to be very naive about drugs.  I knew they were supposedly bad, and not something you were supposed to do, but I didn't realize why or how they affected you.  I seriously had no idea you could even buy drugs on the street.  I always thought street drugs was just a term for illegal drugs.  The first time I went with someone to get rock, I was seriously amazed you could just roll up, give money, and get drugs.  That's what I mean by naive. 

I never got a "drug talk" (or a "sex talk" either, but that's another topic).  I'm guessing my anti-drug education was simply subliminal by implying good, decent people don't do drugs.  That's obviously a very bad approach to take, especially with intelligent and / or curious children.  They want to know the why / how / what.  They want to experience it for themselves. 

Needless to say when I got to college, it was kinda like a perfect storm.  Very naive about drugs, allowed all this freedom for the very first time, not around family or other people who I thought would judge me, around "friends" who did drugs and offered them to me.  For a time when I first started, I actually had a plan / desire to try any drug I could.  I wanted to experience them all and compare.  I remember wanting to find the perfect drug: one that made me feel the best, that lasted the longest, and that was the most affordable. 

As for ivory coke paraphernalia, yeah, a person would have to have no conscious where animals are concerned.  I could make an exception for grandfathered ivory, as it's not a recent kill.  But still, at one point it was a living, breathing elephant that was killed for two of it's tusks.  The only acceptable form IMO would be mammoth ivory coke accessories.  But that'd be pretty hard to find.  It wouldn't surprise me if Pablo Escobar had a lot of expensive coke accessories.  Interesting thought. 
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on September 21, 2015, 02:55:53 PM
@ the Madonna videos:

I appreciate the first one, as it's very pertinent to the 80's.  Especially her live rendition on stage at the MTV Video Music Awards.  I think it was a controversy at the time.  People saying it should have been censored.

As for the second Madonna video, she's WAY too old to be doing that shit now.  It's just sad and pathetic.  I'm not trying to be an ageist or sexist, but I think it's gross she's still on stage in her lingerie, writhing on the floor.  It just doesn't look good.  I'd say that about any "elderly" person, woman or man.  She's what, like in her late-50's or early-60's now.  It's time to hang up the garter belt. 
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That was my mistake. I had intended to post the MTV awards where she was in the wedding dress/ligerie, rolling aroud on the floor which at the time blew everyones mind. It was scandalous, which of course was her plan all along. I wonder how many boners she inspired before 1990 alone?  Millions and millions no doubt. And clothing trends too. You coulnd swing a stick w/o hitting a "Madonna Clone" What I had intended to illustrate was how traditionally sexy she was when she was young and not just  "sexy for an older woman."

Public opinion about drug use has been all over the map . Thomas Jefferson and I believe George Washington grew pot and Jefferson's garden still has poppies descended from his own plantings. And they weren't ornamental. People grew mdeicinal plants as well as food. They had to.

It was Harry Anslinger who really villified drugs, primarily to create the "need"' for his government job running the old Federal Bureau of Narcotics, which preceded the DEA.  No doubt the US has always been a recist country and racism was used to vilify opiates (Chinese) Cocain (Blacks) Marijuana (Blacks and Mexicans) but doctors wrote for all sorts of narcotics freely. By the 70's pot and coke were winked at or ignored.

People forget that Reagan's election was kind of a blowback reaction to increasing liberalism and anger over the liberal Carter's inability to rescue or coerce the return of the US hostages in Iran. For all th epode-minded, fair play, live and let live, liberalities it professes, the US has always had very strong sttrain of reactionary hatred. For every progress made by minorities, LGBTs and Civil Libertarians, there is a deep strain of conservative anger.
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: Daughter of Dionysus on September 22, 2015, 12:34:26 AM
Harry Anslinger is a fucking terrorist
Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: LoneRanger7 on October 25, 2015, 09:04:57 AM
Damn zoots your really did answer my question, very interesting! I'm in a union now and feel very lucky...also scared because idk how it has survived this long. It's a strong union but once the car unions in Detroit go so will ours and you always here rumors on that. Thanks for the read!

A union, huh?




And that was DeadCat that took the time to answer you... twice.

Title: Re: Amazing coke paraphrenalia ads from the 70s
Post by: DeadCat on October 25, 2015, 06:09:48 PM
Damn zoots your really did answer my question, very interesting! I'm in a union now and feel very lucky...also scared because idk how it has survived this long. It's a strong union but once the car unions in Detroit go so will ours and you always here rumors on that. Thanks for the read!

A union, huh?




And that was DeadCat that took the time to answer you... twice.


I'm lad SOMEBOD[else besiddddrrrrrr]caught that.
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