Things we wish guys knew...

[Sand and Water (OP)]

Ok girls, as I said in Candy's thread, I thought it might be interesting (& fun) to talk about this. Put whatever's on your wish list. It can be serious, funny, snarky--whatever you want.

All guys' comments are welcome; just please remember to be respectful

***TO THE GUYS WHO ARE READING THIS--BECAUSE OF CONCERNS VOICED BY THE WOMEN IN THIS THREAD, IT IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED THAT YOU SIMPLY READ--EXCEPT FOR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (see posts starting at #50 and posts 57 and 62 especially)  SINCERE THANKS TO ALL FOR RESPECTING THIS REQUEST***

I'll start with part of my "I wish..."

--When I'm aggravated, po'd or just plain cranky, the LAST question I want to be asked is: "is it that time of the month?"  This applies even if the guy is truly trying to be helpful lol.

--What is it with men and directions??  Does something inside them die a little if the mapquest fails & they are forced to publicly seek assistance?

--Sometimes I *like* it when Thor the Caveman makes an appearance... but only on certain occasions (wink wink), and particularly when there's a big bug that needs to be dealt with 

[Narkotikon]

I think this is a very good and interesting topic. 

Although I grew up around four very strong, independent women (mother and three older sisters), and despite the fact that I often feel more like a woman than a man based on stereotypes, I'm not going to list things. 

I still think this will be a great thread.  Informative and educational for the guys who want to read and / or participate. 

Karma to you.      

[Anti-hero]

I think this is a very
 good and interesting topic. 

Although I grew up around four very strong, independent women (mother and three older sisters), and despite the fact that I often feel more like a woman than a man based on stereotypes, I'm not going to list things. 

I still think this will be a great thread.  Informative and educational for the guys who want to read and / or participate. 

Karma to you.   

I have been called afemament (sp?)
More than once
HeAd can tell you I'm more
Then in touch with my manly side.
I would like to know.
The answer to this question.
Sometimes when HeAd is in one of her moods
I will say " have a period already".
It's a just a cute to her that she is being mean
I know her "cycles" have nothing to sure with her attitude. She would hit me if I was
to say that to her.

I am looking forward to
reading this.
I do need a clue sometimes.
I.wish she would give me one.

[Sand and Water (OP)]

I think this is a very
 good and interesting topic. 

Although I grew up around four very strong, independent women (mother and three older sisters), and despite the fact that I often feel more like a woman than a man based on stereotypes, I'm not going to list things. 

I still think this will be a great thread.  Informative and educational for the guys who want to read and / or participate. 

Karma to you.   

I have been called afemament (sp?)
More than once
HeAd can tell you I'm more
Then in touch with my manly side.
I would like to know.
The answer to this question.
Sometimes when HeAd is in one of her moods
I will say " have a period already".
It's a just a cute to her that she is being mean
I know her "cycles" have nothing to sure with her attitude. She would hit me if I was
to say that to her.

I am looking forward to
reading this.
I do need a clue sometimes.
I.wish she would give me one.

Aww Nark thanks... I just really DO see so many differences & when I asked if the girls wanted this, *guys* piped up too, so I hope everyone feels free to give their thoughts

Hero-- the reason I listed that is sooo many times, if a woman is in a bad mood, that's what she hears. Not, "whats going on thats making you angry?". Sorta like the saying "a woman's being a bitch, a man's being assertive.

I LIKE men...grew up with 7 brothers, but men are still pretty mysterious in many ways to me. Hope that's some comfort to ya

ps don't worry Morfy--saving some if juicy eeek! stuff for you

[Opus]

I won't hesitate at all to ask for directions if I'm lost..

[Anti-hero]

I won't hesitate at all to ask for directions if I'm lost..

I know right.
I have had to ask
For directions so many times (pre GPS)
I thought this was a urban myth.
You you learn.

@sand and water.
 Maybe we can use this thread as dialogue
For the party's to find some common ground.
And come to some sort of resolution to the aforementioned dispute.
That's my politic talk because of the elections.
Karma cause this is a good topic. It's science that our
thought process are different.
I can't g give you any peer reviewed journals.
I did read it in the internet
So that makes it fact

[jdub]

I won't hesitate at all to ask for directions if I'm lost..

I'll admit I have a problem asking for directions. I think it's a deep biological thing. On the level of not being able to feed your tribe or something. Big dabs, hope that made sense.

[Anti-hero]

No I understand. What would fuck me up is if you had to get directions back to your tribe.

[Junkette]

I just think I should state for the record that lesbians don't need to just get fucked right by a guy. LOL.

I have a co-worker who seems to think he can make me straight...if he keeps on I might have to hit him with a sexual harassment report, but I'm trying not to do it and just talk to him like a human being. He keeps making comments and eyeing me, it would be gross even if it was a woman.

I know this is an uncomfortable topic, sexual harassment...everyone likes a compliment...but it's really invasive and gross when you have someone invading your personal space...especially if they are physically a lot taller or larger than you. The other day the guy at work had me cornered, I was literally pressed into a corner...shiver.

I don't know if men realize how often women get suggestive or aggressive comments, you don't even really need to be hot or sexy or anything but there really are men that treat women like little more than a dick holder.

I know a lot of women in our "scene" get into really uncomfortable situations especially with drug dealers. Every male dealer I ever had basically let it be known that if I wanted to fuck for drugs it was on. Sigh. Not an advantage man, seriously. "you know if you just want to suck my dick I'll take a hundred off your tab" gag.

But I guess women have been trading pussy since the beginning of time. I'm just not sure if people realize how dehumanizing it is, or traumatic.

Also, girls are essentially told from birth that they should find a "prince charming" and pop out some kids. I'm fucking gay and am still pressured by family members and asked by others when we are going to have kids. How about fucking never? People act like there is something wrong with you for not wanting to reproduce. The last thing this world needs is a little junkette running around.

Sorry for the ramble. I know it's the 21st century but women still haven't over come their biology. I have always thought that the reason women have been subservient to men/seen as less than men is because we can get pregnant, which is basically disabling and potentially life threatening. If you think about caveman times a pregnant woman was a real liability...dependent on everyone else to survive .

[St. Theresa]

I wish they knew how much getting a period sucks. Like really knew. Not that I wish pain and bloating, hot flashes etc. on the them. 
Although, I had a very understanding father who knew to leave us chicks alone when we got menstral (and always put the toilet seat down), there was always the unlying notion from him and most guys like, "you're not dying".  I've also seen women who have no problem with their cycles treat women who do like they're exxagerating...they usually come around to the truth when unfortunately their cycle changes and gives them hell.  And thankfully I don't half the period issues I know some women do, it's really sucky thing.


Good thread S&W !
And thanks for you input nark:) cool

[Daughter of Dionysus]

Junkette
I totally GRT where you are coming from
With people
Especially family members
Acting like there is something
Wrong with you b/c
You have chosen not to have children
Some of my family members
Treat me like there is something horribly
Wrong with me
B/ c I have chosen to not have children
Or get married

@hero 1 I don't give
A fuck when you say
"Have a period already"
It doesn't bother me
I know tho that if you feel
The need to say that
Then I have been being exceptionally mean

On some level
Even men say that
To their partners
I think it's just b/ c
They don't have a legitimate
Biological reason to be
A dick

One thing I wish men
Would realize is that
When they pay a bill
Or do a chore
It doesn't mean their woman
Has to go out of her way to
Praise you
You getting the same thing
In return
And being shown that you
Are appreciated
Thru your partners actions
And occasionally verbal "praise"
Should be enuff
If you want all the verbal
"Oh babe you're so great, thank you so much
For taking out the trash, I don't know what I would
Do without you"
Kinda shit
Then you need to give it
"Oh babe thank you so much for doing
The laundry. I really would be lost without you"

Get it?

[Sand and Water (OP)]

I'm glad y'all are liking this; I really appreciate everybody's contributions. In case I didn't say it earlier, I hope everyone knows that nothing I say is ever meant in a mean way. Like the directions thing--I'm just being tongue in cheek.

Speaking of the direction thing.. I wish I could remember who did it, but there was actually a study done recently & yup, men are far more likely to want to figure it out themselves vs women. And men were found to be better at it than women in many cases.  If i remember it, it has to do with being the "hunter" & needing to be able to navigate in order to survive. But yeah, Hero, it's on the Net, so it's gotta be true

Oh my god, DoD, YES!!!  Just today, I found myself (again) telling my mom, why is it my SIL's problem to keep everyone up to date on family events, my brother is their father too!  Her position is he "helps out a lot". I told her just because SIL has breasts doesn't mean everything domestic is her responsibility.  My position is when was the last time somebody lavished praise on *me* for shopping, preparing & serving dinner? Why should he pout for no one saying anything when he empties a damn dishwasher?

St T, I had to laugh when I read that; prior to medical menopause, I never had PMS, (horrible periods, but zero mood stuff), so I'll own it here: I DID think my daughter was exaggerating.  You're totally right, it would be great if those who never suffered the harsher symptoms could understand. I do now. It sucks

I wish men knew what it's like to be 8 months pregnant. Like St T, I wouldn't wish real "pain" on anyone (think back labor), but try a week carrying a 10lb bowling ball..no room to eat, peeing every 20 seconds & trying to sleep. Never felt so trapped before or since!! 

I'll include this little eek bit-- I think it would be funny to have a guy know what it's like when your water breaks.... they had to break mine. It wasn't painful, but it was a flood of grossness lol.

ETA: Junkette brings up a good point. Even in the military, I heard it all the time (& like J, never intended to have kids). I've always wondered, do guys get asked this a lot?

[Z]

My wife seems to wish I could read her mind.

*wife stomps around angrily*
Z: what's wrong honey?
Z's wife: nothing.
Z: really, what's wrong?
"You know what's wrong."
"I really don't.  Please tell me so I can fix it."
"If you don't know its even worse."

Z:  I'll just bring my sleeping bag out to the shed for tonight.

[Sand and Water (OP)]

My wife seems to wish I could read her mind.

*wife stomps around angrily*
Z: what's wrong honey?
Z's wife: nothing.
Z: really, what's wrong?
"You know what's wrong."
"I really don't.  Please tell me so I can fix it."
"If you don't know its even worse."

Z:  I'll just bring my sleeping bag out to the shed for tonight.

Poor Z lol. I'll own this one too. I have very very occasionally denied anything was wrong when in fact, I was hurt/mad as hell. Sorry, man.

[St. Theresa]

My wife seems to wish I could read her mind.

*wife stomps around angrily*
Z: what's wrong honey?
Z's wife: nothing.
Z: really, what's wrong?
"You know what's wrong."
"I really don't.  Please tell me so I can fix it."
"If you don't know its even worse."

Z:  I'll just bring my sleeping bag out to the shed for tonight.

Lol you're better off not wanting to know.  It will pass....I hope!