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Core Topics => Substance Usage, Management, User Experiences etc. => Topic started by: shoybs on February 23, 2016, 05:12:37 AM
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I'm really hoping that someone can give me some insight to this, but when i started making more money a couple years ago when i was still using, i greatly increased the amount of dope i did in each shot, and when i did that i noticed that along with the real fuckin nice rush, i got this scent in my nose... Very distinct smell, and i found that smell to be very addictive in its own way. I always thought that it was strictly some kind of dope smell... something specific about the dope i was doing at the time.
Well a few days ago i got some U-47700 from a US vendor, and i started off super super small to be careful. But once i titrated to the point where i knew how much i should do in a single shot for a nice rush, i found that it ALSO produces that smell if i do enough. So now I'm wondering if it's just part of any opiate rush or what not?
Anybody familiar with this phenomenon, or have any insight as to what it might be? Or if youve smelled it yourself, can you put your finger on what exactly it smells like? Cause me, i cant really describe it.
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I'm sure there is a scientific explanation for this.
You can also taste it in your mouth when they flush your IV with saline when you are in the hospital, so it isn't relegated to just dope.
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When I use Bacteriostatic Water I get the taste/smell, but I kind of doubt that is what you're talking about. I did get where I really enjoy it.
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How is the U? You're IVing it right?
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i got this scent in my nose... Very distinct smell, and i found that smell to be very addictive in its own way.
Anybody familiar with this phenomenon, or have any insight as to what it might be? Or if youve smelled it yourself, can you put your finger on what exactly it smells like? Cause me, i cant really describe it.
Exactly my experience on prom night in high school. Been chasing it everyday since.
8)
As for how one might describe the scent, i've heard everything from bald eagle tears, Jesus' swamp ass and an entire mason jar of hooker spit.
Sorry, I dont get enough attention at home.
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The taste/smell of IVing dope has always been my favorite part. I can live without the rush, I usually just muscle it when I use, but the taste/smell of IVing good tar, man oh man,fucking delish!
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Yeah I IV'ed the U. It's very very fiendish. The rush is hella good, like some good ECP mixed with dilaudid, but it doesn't have shit for legs. A friend of mine and myself went through a G in a weekend, and I did most of it. I've been on suboxone for almost a year, so I think my tolerance is actually higher than I thought. I found myself doing a shot, getting that excellent rush and then as soon as the rush faded, I'd be prepping up another shot. Like I said, very fiendish.
It just really surprised me that this stuff also gave me that good dope rush smell.
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I think it comes from the capillaries in your lungs suddenly being full of drugs, and transfering a bit to your brachioles which you then end up breathing and smelling. It could just be because heroin is good on the other hand.
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I never taste anything when I shoot up... I'm kinda jealous... I miss the drip and that taste in the back of my mouth from when I used to snort.
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I can taste coke sometimes when I shoot it (if I shoot it) - kerosene, petrol-like,
Ketamine has a wintergreen type taste/smell
good ECP is like a stinky vitamin smell
Methylphenidate was sort of like the smell from a brand new shower curtain. Not exactly, but similar. Ummm shower currrrtains!
And I've tasted the lorazepam IV that they put into my IV line at the hospital a couple times. Like some chemical-ly type taste/smell. Sort of like the shower curtain thing too.
If you shoot good E, it should have a black licorice type taste/smell to it in the back of the throat.
One time I shot some Dexedrine capsules and those had a sweet, sort of burnt, toasty-type smell/taste to them.
WSB wrote about this too. He said, "you can smell it going in" regarding shooting good heroin.
I think what you're experiencing is more from the excipients in the pill more often, or from the preservatives like 10Kites said. Benzyl alcohol is used as a preservative in bact-static water, and that has a chemical like smell, sort of like the shower curtain thing. But sometimes, it's the actual drugs themselves. Like ketamine, I'm pretty sure that one just has a wintergreen smell to it, when you shoot it.
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I think it comes from the capillaries in your lungs suddenly being full of drugs, and transfering a bit to your brachioles which you then end up breathing and smelling. It could just be because heroin is good on the other hand.
Could be from that, but also could be from drug-saturated blood literally flowing right through the olfactory organ. Likely a combination of both though.
Before anybody jumps all over me and says some dumb shit like "oh no way, when you shoot up, it doesn't go to your nose - it goes straight to your brain in 7.12834 seconds. I read it online once." Well, on the contrary, when drugs are injected intravenously, they are quickly distributed all over the entire body. The amount that reaches the brain is only a small fraction of the total dose. The rest is busy hanging around in the pinky toe, earlobes, penis or vagina, depending, and knees. It gets circulated, so some would definitely find its way pretty quickly in the circulation to the nose and associated nervous structures. So, suppose a vessel is carrying blood right to an olfactory nerve, which blood contains some foreign substance, that has a smell to it. Don't you think that the olfactory nerve is going to pick up some sort of scent, with that stuff right there up ON it? I do.
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@shoybs
Could you post a few pics
Of what this stuff looks like
Once cooked up?
Please?
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I know with a fat shot of morphine you get an irony taste, sort of tastes like blood in my opinion. This is probably different.maybe not idk.
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I think it comes from the capillaries in your lungs suddenly being full of drugs, and transfering a bit to your brachioles which you then end up breathing and smelling. It could just be because heroin is good on the other hand.
The path to your brains from like some pipein your finger, is: heart - lungs - heart - brain. (I'd cite this but not in great shape atm).
So it kinda makes sense that it takes a second to taste it.
The best taste ever IMO is ether, and it usually means the dope is... good fuckin' dope. People never use ether anymore, prolly dun blew too many motherfucks up. Ooohh but that sweet, sweet taste though. If I had ether and good veins, I'd probably use it as a solvent for whatever I'z bangin' just cos it tastes so freakin' good!
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I dig ether also! Last year my friend and I were making our own, not from starter fluid, but synthing it from ethanol and sulfuric acid. We liked drinking it mixed with whiskey, and chased with ice water. Yum!
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The path to your brains from like some pipein your finger, is: heart - lungs - heart - brain. (I'd cite this but not in great shape atm).
So it kinda makes sense that it takes a second to taste it.
The best taste ever IMO is ether, and it usually means the dope is... good fuckin' dope. People never use ether anymore, prolly dun blew too many motherfucks up. Ooohh but that sweet, sweet taste though. If I had ether and good veins, I'd probably use it as a solvent for whatever I'z bangin' just cos it tastes so freakin' good!
Right, the path a drug takes when administered IV = through the vein to the heart, on to the lungs, back to the heart, then the entire body including the brain. When you smoke a drug, however, it goes from the lungs to the heart, to the systemic circulation (including the brain). So smoking is a more direct, much more direct way of administering a drug than IV.
Most people are not aware of this.
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Right, the path a drug takes when administered IV = through the vein to the heart, on to the lungs, back to the heart, then the entire body including the brain. When you smoke a drug, however, it goes from the lungs to the heart, to the systemic circulation (including the brain). So smoking is a more direct, much more direct way of administering a drug than IV.
Most people are not aware of this.
It's hard to take in a gram in one toke though!
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It's hard to take in a gram in one toke though!
fucking A!!! Chill out over there @Guts!!!
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fucking A!!! Chill out over there @Guts!!!
I'm actually being a good boy :) Nothing but my methadone for the last couple of weeks.
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@shoybs
Could you post a few pics
Of what this stuff looks like
Once cooked up?
Please?
I'm tapped out at the moment, but i can describe it pretty easily.
For one thing, it NEEDS heat to dissolve. Its coarse like salt or sugar, not fluffy like flour.
Once it's the mixture is heated, it looks like clear oil on top of your water. Mix it up with your syringe cap, and bam, it looks just like plain ol clear water.
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If it remains separate and needs heat to dissolve then it's possible it's a freebase form as opposed to a salt. Have you tried adding a bit of acid like citric acid or vinegar to see if it allows it to dissolve more easily? If you do it maybe try a smaller shot then normal just to make sure that the potency is the same.
@Zoops Totally makes sense. I honestly don't know that much about it so I was taking a wild guess.
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If it remains separate and needs heat to dissolve then it's possible it's a freebase form as opposed to a salt. Have you tried adding a bit of acid like citric acid or vinegar to see if it allows it to dissolve more easily? If you do it maybe try a smaller shot then normal just to make sure that the potency is the same.
@Zoops Totally makes sense. I honestly don't know that much about it so I was taking a wild guess.
It's supposedly the hydrochloride salt form. I've read that it does dissolve, it just takes a lot of time and agitation and I merely lacked the patience. Who really knows though, maybe they sent me base form.
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I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.
To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.
I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.
IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.
Try if for yourselves!
PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.
1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.
Body says DO IT!! Brainster says, ehhh, noop.
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I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.
To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.
I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.
IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.
Try if for yourselves!
PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.
1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.
Body says DO IT!! Brainster says, ehhh, noop.
I'm going to try some as soon as I get this check I'm waiting on... maybe some furanylfentanyl too :) I'll let you know how strung out I get...
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@Guts, please be very careful with the fentanyl analogs, we had a well loved member named eon pass on recently who was messin around with some of those, I dont remember exactly which ones, but anyway, hes no longer with us, and he'd been using longer probably then you been alive, so he was'nt no dummy. Anyway man, just please be careful,huh?
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I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.
To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.
I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.
IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.
Try if for yourselves!
PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.
1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.
Body says DO IT!! Brainster says, ehhh, noop.
The only reason i did it was because I'm on suboxone and wanted a little fun on the weekend. I think if anything makes this particular RC a tolerance raiser, its the fact that it can be acquired so cheaply.
This is the first full-agonist ive had in a long time, and my tolerance is fucking stupid high compared to where i thought it was. Apparently i jacked my tolerance sky high by IV'ing 16mg of suboxone a day for the past few months (i'm a needle fiend, that's all there is to it). I cut back to 2mg a day when i placed my order, and took 0.5mg a day for 4 days leading up to my first time trying it.
The first thing i did was an "allergy test" (<1mg orally) to make sure i wouldn't have any kind of bad reaction to it, and also to make sure that i wasn't accidentally shipped something way stronger. Once i was confident in doing more, i figured that since it was equipotent to hydromorphone and accounting for tolerance and 0.5mg of bupe in my system, id need 10-20mg per shot. For my first "real" shot i did 10mg, just to be on the safe side. I felt absolutely nothing. I titrated my doseage up until i finally hit the spot where i could really feel it. That was at about 80mg.
So in my case - my subs already made my tolerance stupid high, i ended up only getting about 7 shots total (i was sharing with a friend), and i had my subs as a fallback once i ran out.
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Did subs cover you when you switched back? Was it a harder transition than anything else? 80 mgs is a pretty big dose considering the stuff is 7.5x M.
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Did subs cover you when you switched back? Was it a harder transition than anything else? 80 mgs is a pretty big dose considering the stuff is 7.5x M.
Subs covered me just fine - probably easier actually. I continued taking 0.5mg of sub each morning that I did the U-4 so that I could switch directly back without worrying about precipitated withdrawal. Once I ran out, next morning I simply took 4mg of sub and have been taking 4mg a day since just fine. Keep in mind I only used the U-4 for a little 3-day binge. Using it for a longer period of time may be a totally different story.
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I understand. I was thinking about getting some and, doing the math, I was guessing I'd need around 100 mgs shots to get high. So a gram probably wouldn't last me that long either :)
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I understand. I was thinking about getting some and, doing the math, I was guessing I'd need around 100 mgs shots to get high. So a gram probably wouldn't last me that long either :)
Oh yeah you're golden then. Its a fun little weekend escape without having to worry about dropping dirty (if that's something that you'd have to worry about). But as with all RC's you should plan on using a tiny amount first, as this stuff has never really been tested on humans and you never know what you might be allergic to or what side effects you might encounter. Plus there was a particular incident where a vendor accidentally shipped a fent analogue instead and damn near killed people. Always play it safe because once you work up to the dose you need, you'll still have plenty leftover for at least a few good highs.