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Title: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: BamaPainGurl on November 24, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
 http://m.epill.com/epillsafe.html  (http://m.epill.com/epillsafe.html)

I know everyone has there own system and if they are anything like me, they don't want anything hindering their access to their medicine. Even if it is for their own best interest. But this was designed specifically for pain pts, addicts, those in rehab, etc. I personally use a nifty book style 14 day organizer like this: http://www.wdrake.com/buy-14-day-pill-holder-302912  (http://www.wdrake.com/buy-14-day-pill-holder-302912) and even though it doesn't keep me from taking more than I'm supposed to, it helps me keep track of where I'm at. The one above though, has 4 or 6 separate locks and dispenses up to 6 times a day. I thought this may be helpful for someone who wants to control their intake but their will power is lacking. Hope this is helpful to someone! Y'all have a great night! ~ Lissa   
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: theSWPK on November 25, 2015, 12:14:34 AM
In theory, a locking pill dispenser sounds like a good idea. However in practice, if you really want to abuse your dope bad enough, what's to stop you from smashing it open in a parking lot at 3am? Then you're out of $500. Not to mention that you would have the keys to this thing, so that wouldn't keep you out. And if someone else had the keys and the device malfunctioned, you'd be up shirt creek.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: BamaPainGurl on November 25, 2015, 12:29:50 AM
Absolutely agreed on all counts. You would have to be motivated to use it not abuse it, and/or have someone you trust who is readily available to keep it maintained. I do think it could be helpful to those truly motivated to manage their intake though. *I would be smashing it and out $500!*  ::)
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: suboxstitute on November 25, 2015, 03:17:42 AM
Oh god when I was using I would have smashed/broken into/"whatever" that pill dispenser every day and every night.

Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Wildcat on November 25, 2015, 03:53:24 AM

* image.jpg (37.28 kB . 602x600 - viewed 484 times)Hey, and it looks like it can even double as a "Frisbee".

Very clever.

Something to do while you think of a logical explanation as to how it suddenly "burst open".
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: makita on November 25, 2015, 04:52:38 AM
There are ones on Amazon for 1/5 of that price that seem better built and less breakable.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Z on November 25, 2015, 09:15:55 AM
That thing is so weird I went and Googled a video.  It is actually a cool design, and rather smart.  It is solid aluminum on the outside, and looks like 1/4" or 1/8" thickness.  Pretty solid unless you cut it open.

The thing doesn't open to take your meds out.  There is a carousel inside that turns and lines up with the hole on the bottom, and you tip it out.  The problem is $500.  Insanity.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Griffin on November 25, 2015, 11:44:18 AM
I think it is a good idea but would be worried about destroying the $500 safe when I am in need. However if you are not in withdrawal and getting the right amount of meds prescribed to you it could be a good option. You would only be dealing with craving to get high and not withdrawal so you wouldn't be as inspired to destroy it. I wish it was cheaper I am currently looking for a lockbox for MMT and they are somewhat expensive new and hard to find used.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Snoop on November 25, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
$500 for a device that keeps me outta my own shit....

Negative Ghost Rider.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Lolleedee on November 25, 2015, 01:00:02 PM
I think it is a good idea but would be worried about destroying the $500 safe when I am in need. However if you are not in withdrawal and getting the right amount of meds prescribed to you it could be a good option. You would only be dealing with craving to get high and not withdrawal so you wouldn't be as inspired to destroy it. I wish it was cheaper I am currently looking for a lockbox for MMT and they are somewhat expensive new and hard to find used.

What kind of lock box do you need?  I bought one at walmart for less than twenty bux.  They had the kind with a lock and key and the kind with the built in combination lock.   Both were fine..I like the one with the built in combo lock better just because I don't have to keep track of the little key!
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Griffin on November 25, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
I just need a cheap one. Sadly $20 is out of my price range right now. I just hit a rough patch lost my job,  and got officially denied from Walmart. My car wouldn't start yesterday, but I may have got it fixed. I have about 8 cents to last me until my food stamps come in on the first.

My financial aid to go back to school is still pending. I have to prove I was traveling to Oklahoma in March when I got arrested and that I have a job that has a flexible schedule after I prove that I still don't know if they will approve my appeal. If they do then in February I will be good, I can pay off all my fines and debt and wont have to work as much. Plus just being back in school will be a huge self esteem booster of me.

I am not winning the battle against my depression right now I have gotten out of bed about 4 times sense last Monday. I am just hoping everything works out and getting back into school is about my only way considering I can't even get a job at walmart because of my record. Even though I don't have any felonies. I just hope that when I have a degree they can overlook my 3 misdemeanors and give me a chance.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: lilbay21213 on November 28, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
Bam pain gurl i love that graphic.

As far as these safes i have never had lucky taking extra until recently with this new doctor. Now that she keeps tapering (for no reason) and messing with my meds and not listening to me i am forced to have my 28 year old child hold my meds and dish them out to me. It makes me feel like such a addict  when all i really want it to be able to stand long enough to fix some lunch. Yes there are days when i just want to give the hell up and end it all but then i think about my kids (who are all grown) and i really am all they have and i could never do it so they would find me so i keep plugging away miserable as hell.

Sorry I just had to comment cause once i saw you graphic it made me think how many others deal with this.

Bay
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: BamaPainGurl on November 29, 2015, 03:38:21 AM
 :-\  Bay,
                I can absolutely relate! When I first had my accident and had recovered enough to get an idea of the pain I was looking at for the rest of my life, but had not yet learned many of the tools I use today to get through until the meds kick in (or get through alive if I have no meds) suicide was regularly at the forefront of my mind. And I have very strong beliefs about suicide that make it (under any circumstances) the worst act I could ever contemplate.

Even now knowing my life will assuredly end sooner than the average person my age in average health gives me a comfort I cannot share with anyone closer than a stranger. And yes, then I think of my family that depends on me and it gives me a reason to fight the pain and the ideas that ride in on those waves.

Sorry if this sounds disjointed, the past three days I've been at a hard 8.5 for pain and the pills may bring a 7 but nothing less. Thinking of you and praying you get some rest and relief! Take care ~ Lissa   
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: michellebaines on November 29, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
BamaPainGurl & Bay,

I so get where your both coming from. Especially when you wake up from a bad sleep night (or cats laying like landmines that twisted you into something resembling Golem) & your waiting for that first morning dose to kick in. So you can unkink your body.

I too have had a bunch of those times where I just wanted an end to the agony & endless Dr. appts & needing to depend on others to help me get around. Let me tell you, the first time I had to use my wheelchair was embarrassing and humiliating. I'm not yet 40, I've used canes for years, but giving in to needing the wheelchair was a whole new level of loss of control.

Though the wheelchair made it possible for me to spend a week in Washington D.C. & actually SEE most of what I wanted to see.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: lilbay21213 on November 29, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
I can relate Bama Gurl mine has been in the upper 9's and i admit chipping has been a huge help but i do not want to go back that route either. UGH it like damned if you do damned if you don't.

Michelle I was in a chair in my 40's and late 30's and discovered that without insurance i could go on Methadone clinic to stay out of the chair but my main doctor talked me into going on Pain Management and i thought oh these docs will help me
WRONG and now i am back to using the chair in the house again
I get so so frustrated i just want to scream at this doctor.
I have a advocate i been keeping a pain journal and i have 3 doctors on my team willing to talk to this doctor about my issues nad so i pray i go back the 10th i will know more then.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: BamaPainGurl on December 04, 2015, 12:56:31 AM
My heart goes out to everyone here, even myself. Because as comforting as it can be to have someone be able to empathize with our situations, we have had to go through hell to be able to do so. I get so many looks from strangers that assume I am just a lazy slacker because I have handicap parking tag, and a scooter to get around on whenever I go to a store for longer than 15 minutes or so. And heaven forbid! I use one of the stores electric buggies! I am taking that away from someone who "really needs it"!

Lilbay, not sure if it's the weather fronts moving through or something else on top of trying to behave like a housewife should by cooking and cleaning, but my pain has either stayed high or peaked to the screaming face on the pain scale. This has been going on at least since the week before turkey day. And looking at the coming weeks it doesn't look like things will be conducive to a break for me. Grandbaby has tonsils out Fri, husband leaves sun for a scheduled continuing education class that lasts a week and my mom has surg next Monday and out of hospital Tues with no one to help her during the day. I feel like I just want to curl up in the bed with my meds, lol. Not gonna happen.

Hoping y'all all have better weeks coming up! Take care of yourselves and rest lots for me! ~ Lissa   
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: potato on December 12, 2015, 03:15:58 PM
Hey guys ... these things have been a godsend for me.  It's not just the fact that it locks (though that definitely helps you get on the schedule in the beginning) ... it's really the fact that it keeps you super regular and on a strict schedule.

The best ones that are remotely affordable are made by "medready" ... they are on amazon for ~$150 and can maybe be found elsewhere cheaper.  It uses a basic cylindrical key, but the locking mechanism is pretty sturdy.  The cheaper white ones on amazon use this absurdly easy to defeat locking mechanism, so when I woke up the first night in pain it took me all of thirty seconds to get at the rest of my pills  and screw over "future me".

Beyond the quality lock, the medready ones also come with a wall-charger and lithium-ion battery ... meaning you don't really have to worry about it resetting with your pills trapped inside.  It lets you set 4 alarms for the day ... and has 28 slots ...

If you're having trouble sticking to your pill regimen I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: dizzle on December 16, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
 
Quote from: potato
I woke up the first night in pain it took me all of thirty seconds to get at the rest of my pills  and screw over "future me".



lol. Right? future guy ALWAYS gets screwed by present guy. and there's NOTHING future guy can do about it. reminds me of a Seinfeld standup bit.


Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: Snoop on December 16, 2015, 04:04:58 PM
I hate 'present' Snoop.

He makes the WORST calls, that guy.

Future Snoop has a great head on his shoulders... But he is defenseless and at the TOTAL mercy of his preemptive counterpart.

Maybe one day 'future Snoop' and 'present Snoop' will come together and do what's right for us.

But I ain't gonna hold my breath.

Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: skramamme on December 17, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
I can relate Bama Gurl mine has been in the upper 9's and i admit chipping has been a huge help but i do not want to go back that route either. UGH it like damned if you do damned if you don't.

Michelle I was in a chair in my 40's and late 30's and discovered that without insurance i could go on Methadone clinic to stay out of the chair but my main doctor talked me into going on Pain Management and i thought oh these docs will help me
WRONG and now i am back to using the chair in the house again
I get so so frustrated i just want to scream at this doctor.
I have a advocate i been keeping a pain journal and i have 3 doctors on my team willing to talk to this doctor about my issues nad so i pray i go back the 10th i will know more then.

It's like they'd rather a person have a terrible quality of life than be physically dependent on opiates.
And now they like to trot out the couple of (from what I understand far from conclusive) studies that show prolonged opiate use may actually increase our pain... so even though it's not conclusive it's certainly being used as yet another reason to kick us off effective meds that let us live a half way "normal" life  :-\
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: skramamme on December 17, 2015, 08:16:35 PM
With the pill locks... what's to stop you from just using the key to unlock it? Or does the key only work at the set times? IDGI  ???
Title: Re: Locking, alarm equipped pill dispensers
Post by: potato on December 17, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
> what's to stop you from just using the key to unlock it?

I Just have someone in my house hide it from me ... or put it on their keychain.  You need to be a little motivated to make it work .. as you can obviously get the key back from who-ever you gave it to.  I mean if you really wanted to break into it's made out of plastic ... and isn't exactly fort knox ...

I guess you can probably put the key in a safety deposit box or some-such too ... that way you'll have to go to the bank during business hours ... by which time it'd probably be time for your next dose anyhow.
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