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Title: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on September 13, 2015, 11:16:20 PM
So we had a bitchin thread in a past life regarding how to bring up being addicted

It had been a decent amount of time since I had been on a date before yesterday
and even longer since it was someone actually cool to me haha
Had such a good time, see some MC Esher woodcuts and lithographs
eat delicious tacos and beers and weed

then somehow she came to mention her brother is only 18 and hooked on benzos
She was visibly disturbed by having to share this info
not because she was ashamed but genuinely scared for him

i had to decide right then what to do, and as always, erred on the side of stupidity
"you should know that im physically dependent on opiates"
she did a good job hiding it if she was shocked
that lead to being told no worries, i understand these things can happen
but there is no way i can ever get emotionally involved with you as long as you use opiates


I do not get many chances at being happy with other people
hell even tolerating them is challenging more often than i care to admit
but the fucking thing that keeps me sane also keeps me completely isolated

should I have said nothing? I'm just so tired of being deceitful
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Sand and Water on September 13, 2015, 11:49:11 PM
I'm so sorry this happened to you TTA.  Fwiw, I don't think you "erred on the side of stupidity"--if my ex hadn't lied and hid his use, maybe we could've worked it out. No way to know now though. It seems clear that it wouldn't have worked out with this girl given her feelings about your use.

For me, whether it's your situation, conflicting attitudes about money/race/religion etc, honesty & trust are critical parts of any romantic foundation. I think you did the right thing long-term, given you say you're tired of hiding.

Who knows, maybe you dodged an emotional bullet?   I hope you meet someone awesome soon who feels more comfortable & is more compatible.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: theluciddreamers on September 13, 2015, 11:55:21 PM
You can't hid that shit forever man. I hid my addiction from everyone but my lady.  We live with her parents and I was hooked on seeds pills and anything I could get to stay well. Last winter her father was working on my car. I have very few friends I see anymore bc of life, jobs, people moving..  I had my dealer in my car at one point and he must of had been taking suboxone.  He left the package in my car and I never saw it.  Well after my car was fixed by.my future father in law I noticed he left some tools in my car. Underneath them was the suboxone package. That along with seeds in the trash and them buring our trash....  when you have pounds and pounds of seeds in your trash all dowm the side I'm sure he saw them.


Anyways I know my future in laws know something is going on.  So yeah it will come up eventually man. Everyone makes mistakes and at some point you would have forgotten something or left something around. Unless the person is in completely in denial you won't get away with it forever. 

The thing is addiction is your brain being wired differently so until you find someone who understands that, you might not be able to find love the way you want or think.  You definitely need someone who is understanding.  Even if you are clean you will always be a addict and addicted to opiates. So lets say you got clean a year ago and you told her about your addiction and she got into a relationship with yoy knowing you had been addicted and thought that was ok bc you are clean, then she wouldn't be right for you anyways.  Even if you get clean you will always struggle with addiction and you NEED someone who understands that...   

I'm a person who believes in being honest so that's just my opinion.  What would have happened if you got into a relationship with her and she found out a year later?  Would she leave you bc she doesn't want to be involved with someone like that?  Then you would be at a point way worse then what you think you are at now. 

The truth is you probably don't know this chick as well as you think.  The thought or idea of a relationship is always incorrect to what it really is or would be. Your mind makes you think all these great things would or could happen bc that's how we are and think.  I wouldn't be worried bc it sounds like she wouldn't be right for you just based off thst one sentence. 

Relationship are the work you put into them and not an idea in your head. When you find someone who fits you will be honest and they will love and accept you for who you are.  That kind of judgment is what makes people like most of us on here look like criminal, junky, no loving ass fucks.  That's not who you are and fuck whatever she thinks about. We all have baggage and some seems worse than others, but the fact is we all have it. What if you never did drugs and she smoked weed and drank?  That's a addiction and people who think that they are going to get into a relationship and its all love and butterflies is in for a rude awakening.   


Now i'm not saying everytime meet a chick you throw all your baggage on the table and see what happens.  No then we all would be fucked, but when the time is right you will know and say what you need to say. I would wait till I'm comfortable with the person before laying that shit out. A few months of talking and hanging out, and maybe dating....   Then lay that shit out, but make sure they can be honest with you about their past. Who knows she could of had a sex addiction and chrsted on every person she dated and struggles with relationships? 


Don't let this shit get you down. When you find.someone who is worth it they will be able to see through your addiction and love you for you.  Not the fact that you are dependent on morphine.   

This is just my thoughts man and my opinion so take some of it, all, or none.  Just don't beat yourself up because someone isn't understanding.  Your worth being love and giving that love to someone else. 
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Narkotikon on September 14, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
Now i'm not saying everytime meet a chick you throw all your baggage on the table and see what happens.  No then we all would be fucked, but when the time is right you will know and say what you need to say. I would wait till I'm comfortable with the person before laying that shit out. A few months of talking and hanging out, and maybe dating....   Then lay that shit out, but make sure they can be honest with you about their past. Who knows she could of had a sex addiction and chrsted on every person she dated and struggles with relationships? 

This.  What Lucid said above.

I definitely think you should be honest.  But I also think there's a time to be honest, and a time to withhold information.  Drug addiction and being dependent on morphine isn't a first date topic.  Wait until you develop a rapport with the person.  Know that you can trust them, and they you.  Make sure you know their past transgressions.  When you find the right person, they'll understand and be open to your struggles. 
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on September 14, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
I commend you.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: chemicalchart on September 14, 2015, 03:40:35 PM
Unfortunately there is no pat answer to that one. When I find my self being duplicitous I stop and ask myself why and how fucking long am I willing to keep it up. There are ways to make your stance clear. To feel out the other person. Personally, I find myself liking the other person more if they cop to some kind of addiction. Most people I care about know of my proclivities. I don't measure them against my acts, but by their reactions. The good ones can tell right off the bat anyway. At least in my experience.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: makita on September 14, 2015, 03:52:48 PM
I put coded info about having had "an interesting past" and harm reduction philosophy into my OKCupid profile, and usually out myself early on, but I have the excuse of being a CPP who also uses a bit for other reasons so thats a much easier sell.  Still there are people who say "no hard drugs" or things like that and I avoid them because if thats their attitude, fuck em, we prob wont get along in the long term. 

Also it may be that queer people are more tolerant of this kind of thing in general since so many of us use....outside of the segment of us who are super big on 12 step recovery that is.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on September 20, 2015, 02:06:33 AM
Man even people who I consider close long time friends give me shit
I asked my friend last night why he doesnt wear a seatbelt
and he asked me why I was a junkie wbo had to use morphine everyday

This is why I feel more and more secure in who I am
people are just fucking fools through and through
and im no different
but shit at least my foolishness isnt rammed down anyone's throat
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on September 20, 2015, 02:57:47 AM
Just do some speed dating and throw out your addicted to opiates on each " date". Someone thats cool with it will holler at you. Just an idea.I like to have them fall for me before I drop that bomb on em.Its more fair for both of us. And I know what you mean about the isolation. Although I dont know about " not cramming it down anyones throat".
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: makita on September 20, 2015, 11:28:10 AM
Man even people who I consider close long time friends give me shit
I asked my friend last night why he doesnt wear a seatbelt
and he asked me why I was a junkie wbo had to use morphine everyday

This is why I feel more and more secure in who I am
people are just fucking fools through and through
and im no different
but shit at least my foolishness isnt rammed down anyone's throat

dude, your friend's a dick.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on September 20, 2015, 12:55:37 PM
Man even people who I consider close long time friends give me shit
I asked my friend last night why he doesnt wear a seatbelt
and he asked me why I was a junkie wbo had to use morphine everyday

This is why I feel more and more secure in who I am
people are just fucking fools through and through
and im no different
but shit at least my foolishness isnt rammed down anyone's throat
Nah, your friend just doesnt understand. Dont label him and give up.

dude, your friend's a dick.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Narkotikon on September 20, 2015, 02:09:27 PM
Man even people who I consider close long time friends give me shit
I asked my friend last night why he doesnt wear a seatbelt
and he asked me why I was a junkie wbo had to use morphine everyday

This is why I feel more and more secure in who I am
people are just fucking fools through and through
and im no different
but shit at least my foolishness isnt rammed down anyone's throat

dude, your friend's a dick.

I think it's more like he's ignorant and insensitive.  Perhaps maybe not interested in expanding his mind (i.e., since he's so ignorant, he probably doesn't have a lot of curiosity to learn). 
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: hanna on September 20, 2015, 06:28:43 PM
Man even people who I consider close long time friends give me shit
I asked my friend last night why he doesnt wear a seatbelt
and he asked me why I was a junkie wbo had to use morphine everyday

This is why I feel more and more secure in who I am
people are just fucking fools through and through
and im no different
but shit at least my foolishness isnt rammed down anyone's throat

i'm curious,

Do the laws in your state allow the police to pull you over because an adult passenger isn't wearing their seatbelt? If yes, then do the police have grounds to search your vehicle?

What are the paraphenalia laws like? Strict?

TIA
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: sk8phaze on September 20, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
I stopped telling people about my addiction a long time ago. Yes it sucks living a double life but i now have people that respect me and I know most wouldn't if they knew. But im a good person. Just cause i use doesn't make me a terrible person, so i just hold the information back. So i dont lie but i dont tell. People don't mind me smoking weed or drinking so ill just keep it at that.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: AllNightLong on September 20, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
Now i'm not saying everytime meet a chick you throw all your baggage on the table and see what happens.  No then we all would be fucked, but when the time is right you will know and say what you need to say. I would wait till I'm comfortable with the person before laying that shit out. A few months of talking and hanging out, and maybe dating....   Then lay that shit out, but make sure they can be honest with you about their past. Who knows she could of had a sex addiction and chrsted on every person she dated and struggles with relationships? 

This.  What Lucid said above.

I definitely think you should be honest.  But I also think there's a time to be honest, and a time to withhold information.  Drug addiction and being dependent on morphine isn't a first date topic.  Wait until you develop a rapport with the person.  Know that you can trust them, and they you.  Make sure you know their past transgressions.  When you find the right person, they'll understand and be open to your struggles.

Absolutely not a first date topic.  That is like asking if she wants to get married or have kids after the first date.  I think it is only right to bring it up at the right time, otherwise you are taking yourself out of consideration before you are even being considered. 

This seems to me to kind of being like telling someone if you have an STD on the first date.  Sure, they want to know but if you aren't fucking is it important to tell them on your first date?  Probably not, so I would keep that info in my pocket until it is time to tell them.  Don't get me wrong I wouldn't keep it a secret for ever but there is a right time for everything.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on September 21, 2015, 01:10:33 AM
yea, my so called friend is a raging dick, especially after a few brews
(and a few snorts of the magical white ego powder)
but after tripping out yesterday i cant really say i care

as shitty as it makes me feel, i think you all are right
it isnt something you want to hide from someone you care about or even love
but there isnt much chance someone will grow to care about me
let alone allow themselves to love me
if i spill the beans while letting the cat out of the bag on the first date

for a long time i idolized the skill and persistence of George Costanza
being able to comfortably live a life that was completely fabricated
or that at least glossed over the really shitty stuff
there was a long time where the emotions of others had no effect on me
to the point i was worried i might be pschopathic
im still learning to love others and try and be fair to everyone's emotions
but i feel like this is taking me in the wrong direction

even considering that, i have to say i would be much happier if i could be OPEN about who i really am
we as a world society, specifically in the west, and no place more than America
the message on repeat these days is that everyone deserves tolerance for their life choices
regardless of how they choose to live their life
regardless of what makes them different

im not trying to suggest being a drug addict saddles you with the same problems
as ethnic minorities, or gender minorities, or sexual orientation minorities
but it is not without its own challenges
the chief result of which is being viewed as different, wrong, and in the eyes of many, a dangerous criminals


hanna: in florida you cant be pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt,
but you can receive an $80 ticket if pulled over for something else while not wearing it
in Florida, once they have you pulled over, they are gonna do as they please
my county has a huge sheriffs office, lots of canines on duty (9 at any time i think), and loves to use them
paraphrenalia laws are typical, but as a white guy ive never once been charged with anything
despite numerous times handing over bags of bud and vicodin
in high school i actually had a cop let me keep my grinder (after emptying it)

sk8phaze: your words are exactly how i feel, except in a more clear way
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Z on September 21, 2015, 02:21:24 AM
I think the timing matters less than who you are telling.  Some people will never be okay with it, and they tend to be the ones who will say you lied, or you should have said it earlier.  It might be true, but if you said it right away then they wouldn't be with you either.  They just wouldn't feel emotionally invested in you.

Fuck her man.  You deserve better.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on September 21, 2015, 02:48:27 AM
I think the timing matters less than who you are telling.  Some people will never be okay with it, and they tend to be the ones who will say you lied, or you should have said it earlier.  It might be true, but if you said it right away then they wouldn't be with you either.  They just wouldn't feel emotionally invested in you.

Fuck her man.  You deserve better.

Im not so sure I'd say "fuck her"
she is deeply worried about her little brother's addiction to xanax
and has experienced first hand a lot of the problems associated with
caring for someone who doesn't care for themselves

I badly want to be loved and accepted for exactly who I am
but how can you love someone who doesn't love themself?
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on September 21, 2015, 03:04:05 AM
I think the timing matters less than who you are telling.  Some people will never be okay with it, and they tend to be the ones who will say you lied, or you should have said it earlier.  It might be true, but if you said it right away then they wouldn't be with you either.  They just wouldn't feel emotionally invested in you.

Fuck her man.  You deserve better.

Im not so sure I'd say "fuck her"
she is deeply worried about her little brother's addiction to xanax
and has experienced first hand a lot of the problems associated with
caring for someone who doesn't care for themselves

I badly want to be loved and accepted for exactly who I am
but how can you love someone who doesn't love themself?
How can you not? Some people look for that shit. You seem like a pretty caring person, Im sure youll be alright. Just keep at it.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on September 21, 2015, 05:11:26 AM
Addictions a bitch man just try and put one foot in her shoes and hopefully she will do the same.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Junkette on September 21, 2015, 05:24:15 AM
I dunno, since I consider myself some type of activist and warrior for justice...everyone I know, knows what time it is out the gate. Life is short and I'd rather save them and myself the time of getting all attached then one day over morning coffee have to throw in the whole "by the way, I've been addicted to opiates since ~19 and physically dependent since 27".

At the same time it is a bit easier for me because I can hide behind my physical "disability" and blame it on that...I got lucky with my fiance...she's extremely open minded and although not an addict is pro-drug, whether it's for "fun" or "necessity".

This country is full of ignorance and prejudice due to the War On Drugs, race baiting, and class warfare. You've got these WASP mfers who think that only poor people on welfare use drugs and I'm all over here yelling "Poor people can't afford drugs you fucking tool bags".

So yea, keep your head up. Peoples perceptions are starting to soften...keep yourself open and anything can happen.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Z on September 21, 2015, 05:47:08 AM
I think the timing matters less than who you are telling.  Some people will never be okay with it, and they tend to be the ones who will say you lied, or you should have said it earlier.  It might be true, but if you said it right away then they wouldn't be with you either.  They just wouldn't feel emotionally invested in you.

Fuck her man.  You deserve better.

Im not so sure I'd say "fuck her"
she is deeply worried about her little brother's addiction to xanax
and has experienced first hand a lot of the problems associated with
caring for someone who doesn't care for themselves

I badly want to be loved and accepted for exactly who I am
but how can you love someone who doesn't love themself?

Fuck her is a bit harsh.  Maybe she will come around, or maybe forget her (better choice of words, no?).  Whatever you do please don't try to compromise yourself to show that you are different.  It doesn't usually end well.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on September 21, 2015, 09:25:15 AM
I just wanna say im a lucky, lucky man. But off course two addicts makes for two people needing\wanting\feining for morphines and pins and needles.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on September 24, 2015, 03:06:59 PM
I just wanna say im a lucky, lucky man. But off course two addicts makes for two people needing\wanting\feining for morphines and pins and needles.
On motherfucking point.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Mr.pooper on September 25, 2015, 04:05:10 AM
Met my girl in rehab when I had 90 days clean. She continued to use for a few months(6 months to be exact) before she got completely clean from opiates. She has over 2 years clean now off of opiates, Myself 3 years clean(as of today I just noticed).

She has been without a doubt the best thing for me. Since our first time meeting was in rehab, I had no need to hide that I was/am a raging drug addict. We had the same DOC. It is always nice when I'm struggling somedays, she can recognize and relate, and vice versa for her.

I'm always circling drug jokes in my head, she gets them! I'm always circling with unhealthy thoughts related to my junkie self that will not die, she gets it! I out loud say man I wanna fat shot right now, and she gets it! (That I want a shot, not actually get it for me lol) But its free of judgement and I am able to be myself(junkie minded), without really having to hide anything.

Now I am in no delusion. Either of us could relapse at anytime. And this could all end in a terrible tragedy.
But in my opinion I could never be with a "Normy", I've found trying to force "love" with normys always just ends in hurt for myself. Because when I wanted so badly for someone to love me, I would find any reason to convince myself any person was the right one for me. Once I stopped looking for "them". It seemed like "they" found me.

Never be ashamed of being an addict. Never care what others think. "Those people" need to check their privillage.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on September 28, 2015, 06:05:58 AM
Hell she was taliking about her btother and benzos. Seems like wtf lets throw this out there. I say better to let em know and not waste your time.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: makita on October 02, 2015, 12:05:17 AM


+1 to everything Junkette said.  This is how I play it too and so far, so good.  I put shit about harm reduction right in my okcupid profile.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 03, 2015, 02:15:12 PM
So luckily I have a chance to try my new strategy of not blowing it right off the bat
I met someone on tinder (of all fucking places!)
who is hands down, an objectively good, caring, empathetic woman
intelligent,, strong willed, highly motivated and emotionally determined
and she happens to think I am The Kingdadddyshiznaztee

We talked on the phone for 3hrs+ the last three nights
and are planning to go to the opening night hockey game, among other things

Best part is, she is unwilling to do a "friends with benefits" (useless phrase)
So I will not be used like some meat
to be tossed aside when someone more desirable comes along

She said my voice reassures her and makes her comfortable (weird?)
And that I am incredibly smart and sexy (DEF weird)

I think that if things keep going at this pace,
I will still be weaning off by the time we get together
I think yhen and only then will I tell her
even still I might just transition completely to kratom and ween with that
so as to avoid having to use while together

I really appreciate everything you all have had to say
if she is as empathetic and compassionate as she seems
when the time comesm, if it comes, she will be still see me how she does now
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: The Ryan on October 03, 2015, 04:30:38 PM
I just turned 25, been physically addicted since I was 16.

I am beginning to feel like I will never be able to have a successful relationship with anyone who isn't as much of a die-hard, fucked up, train wreck of a junkie as myself.

But even with another junkie, I will try to find ways in my head to be able to do more of the drugs than her, I'll hide getting high when she isn't around, shit like that.

I think I'm just married to mind or mood altering chemicals, and it will stay that way forever.

My first love, my longest love, and the only one who will never leave me. If only she didn't drain me of all my cash, and magically appeared in front of me when I was dope sick/craving, well then I'd be the happiest fucking guy on the planet.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on October 06, 2015, 04:12:24 AM
I wouldn't want my partner to use - it's too conflicting.

keep looking around, you'll get lucky later if you persist.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 06, 2015, 04:40:26 AM
How many more years of rejection am I looking at?

Kind of feels not worth it
much better to just keep to myself
and keep hating everyone and everything
(While getting high to my liking of course)

It sounds even more depressing
but its a lot easier to ignoree those feelings
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on October 06, 2015, 06:03:32 AM
i know a doctor who got married for the second time at 90+ y/o, to a sprightly 80+ girl and they're nuts about each other, i believe.

everyone's time is different. taking drugs can allay sadness and depression while you work towards "your time".

must keep up hope - it's good to aim for that.

remember, just remain friendly and useful to your friends and propsective lovers, and keep a mysterious air about you (that you have anyway by being a user) ... independence is alluring and confidence is appealing, look for a complimentary person with attributes that you'd love to have.

much, much luck with that.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 06, 2015, 10:40:12 PM
i know a doctor who got married for the second time at 90+ y/o, to a sprightly 80+ girl and they're nuts about each other, i believe.

everyone's time is different. taking drugs can allay sadness and depression while you work towards "your time".

must keep up hope - it's good to aim for that.

remember, just remain friendly and useful to your friends and propsective lovers, and keep a mysterious air about you (that you have anyway by being a user) ... independence is alluring and confidence is appealing, look for a complimentary person with attributes that you'd love to have.

much, much luck with that.

thank chip, ya know how to make a man feel better  ;D
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: skramamme on October 16, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
I used to let small bits of info out as I have more dates.
I remember those first few dates with my last partner/boyfriend/abusive arsehole, where pretty much every meeting ended up with a little more of my dodgy past being revealed;
 
"so, have you ever heard of a thing called methadone? it's for heroin addiction. Don't worry, I don't use anymore..." (that was a lie but hey)
"so, I worked as a stripper for years and, um, still do sometimes..."
"I was arrested and charged with trafficking heroin back in the day..."
"Oh yeah, I did some time too haha. Yeah, for armed robbery.."

But I'm a totally nice gal! Trust me, let me into your straight guy life!

I should have told him "don't stick your dick in the crazy mate, I'll drive you insane"  ;D ;D ;D

But for real, I haven't had a date or a boyfriend (or girlfriend) or anything remotely resembling physical contact of the grown up kind for 7 or 8 years now.
I doubt I will ever meet someone and I think I'm starting to be ok with it. I think people look at us and just think "too much baggage"  Especially when you're an addict and a single parent :-\

Anyway, I hear you and can totally relate.

Hey, at least you had one date, right? That means there's some hope for you yet <3
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: LoneRanger7 on October 16, 2015, 09:23:32 PM
I have to be with a partner with the same proclivities. The couple that uses together, ends up on maintenance together! I'm lucky that most of my past SO's didn't try to scam for more than their half of the drugs - I think they knew that was a deal breaker hahaha!
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: skramamme on October 17, 2015, 07:53:16 AM
I have to be with a partner with the same proclivities. The couple that uses together, ends up on maintenance together! I'm lucky that most of my past SO's didn't try to scam for more than their half of the drugs - I think they knew that was a deal breaker hahaha!

MTE, I tried it with a "nice guy" who didn't use and who would, I thought, provide a good father figure for my daughter and it was a fucking catastrophe. I ended up with anorexia and relapsing and he ended up abusive and a fucking bastard.

He didn't get why I couldn't just get off the methadone and had no interest in who I really was and just thought he had "saved" me.

He even used to say "I bet you never imagined you could have a life like this" and "imagine where you would be if I hadn't come along"
Ugh real ~white night~ to rescue the fucked up chick.

So yep, I think I would only be interested in a fellow MMT patient, occasional user, ex user (without the sanctimonious NA shite), biker, international drug king pin who would like to indulge in cocaine and heroin fueled orgies hahahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: smalls on October 19, 2015, 06:45:05 AM
Ah yes. I remember posting in the thread about dating/drug use/honesty, if it is the one thetalkingasshole is referring to. I haven't been on a date with a new person since the experience I mentioned in the other thread - when I had my honesty thrown back in my face when the relationship didn't go the way the other person wanted. I suppose now I prefer to just make new friends and see if a romantic/sexual relationship can grow out of that. But that still doesn't get me away from the dilemma of when-to-tell and what-to-tell.

I just moved and am having to build a network of friends from scratch so this is something that has come up a lot recently, for me. It seems that since the "heroin epidemic" has percolated into the mainstream, everyone you (I) meet has been touched by addiction. And not just, "Oh, yea, my cousin's girlfriend used to do pills," but so far every time the topic of drugs has come up with a new acquaintance they end up telling a story about a close friend dying of an overdose.

I know this is just me being a whiner, but it is really hard to change someone's idea of what a drug user is if they have already experienced something negative. I feel like a decade ago drugs were maybe more mysterious, farther removed from the average person's life, and so they would have a blank slate, or at least an open mind about what being a drug user can mean.

So once the topic of drugs comes up, which it inevitably does, and they tell their friend's overdose story, that's when I basically shut down and decide I'll never tell them. I want to be in control of my own identity, not have it painted on to me based on someone's past experience with drug users. (Past experience with drug users vs past personal experience with drugs is key here.)

Which is all to say - damn I'm having a helluva time finding people I can be open with!
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on October 19, 2015, 07:27:40 AM
Lone ranger hit that shit on the head. Love is two junkies who dont hide their stash from each other and trust each other to not lift any pills. Love is giving your dopesick partner your wash or the fent patch thats been partially cheeked. Is shaking and shivering and stinking like rotten humans together when your both sick and being empathetic to each other even when they burned through their drugs faster than you.

But things work different for everyone.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on October 19, 2015, 08:03:47 AM
Lone ranger hit that shit on the head. Love is two junkies who dont hide their stash from each other and trust each other to not lift any pills. Love is giving your dopesick partner your wash or the fent patch thats been partially cheeked. Is shaking and shivering and stinking like rotten humans together when your both sick and being empathetic to each other even when they burned through their drugs faster than you.

But things work different for everyone.

is that REALLY possible ? it sounds wonderful in theory but the addiction is a personal trip, too.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Elevated on October 19, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
I have to be with a partner with the same proclivities. The couple that uses together, ends up on maintenance together! I'm lucky that most of my past SO's didn't try to scam for more than their half of the drugs - I think they knew that was a deal breaker hahaha!

He didn't get why I couldn't just get off the methadone and had no interest in who I really was and just thought he had "saved" me.


I've said this before and I'll say it again, I WISH everyone on this planet had to go through heroin withdrawal for 2 or 3 days - just once.  How much are you willing to bet a majority would change their views on addicts and have a better understanding of why it's not as easy as "just quit!".
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: LoneRanger7 on October 19, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
Lone ranger hit that shit on the head. Love is two junkies who dont hide their stash from each other and trust each other to not lift any pills. Love is giving your dopesick partner your wash or the fent patch thats been partially cheeked. Is shaking and shivering and stinking like rotten humans together when your both sick and being empathetic to each other even when they burned through their drugs faster than you.

But things work different for everyone.

is that REALLY possible ? it sounds wonderful in theory but the addiction is a personal trip, too.

Sure it is. Some people don't find it, but it's possible, I been there before. Where even though there's two addicts so each score is cut in half you got two hustlers out there making something out of nothing... It's the only way. Those fckn squares that think they "save" you from yourself, man fuck that noise, I hate those sanctimonious bitches. You know where I'd be if you hadn't helped me, I'd be high right now and a hell of a lot happier Bitch!
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: skramamme on October 19, 2015, 06:11:50 PM
Lone ranger hit that shit on the head. Love is two junkies who dont hide their stash from each other and trust each other to not lift any pills. Love is giving your dopesick partner your wash or the fent patch thats been partially cheeked. Is shaking and shivering and stinking like rotten humans together when your both sick and being empathetic to each other even when they burned through their drugs faster than you.

But things work different for everyone.

First of all, your user pic always makes me smile

Secondly, yeah I agree that's the dream in many ways.

I kinda had that, except for the stuff where it really wasn't haha
True story, me and my ex (rip) were on again/off again for 7 1/2 years and lived in the same shitty public housing flat, sometimes sharing a room, sometimes not.

Anyway, one night I got back from work (I was a stripper) and hid my money down the front of my kickers as we were "off again" and I didn't want him disappearing for hours with my $$$

So I wake up and the money's gone and he's left a note there instead, saying "gotta be more clever than that"

Sonofabitch managed to lift cash that was down my frigging knickers while I was asleep!

My nickname for him was "the artful dodger" because he could charm the birds from the trees while robbing them of their wings... the fucker.

But I miss him regardless y'know, because despite the bad (and there was a lot of bad) he got me like no one else ever had.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on October 19, 2015, 06:20:40 PM
they say that you shouldn't leave temptation around ... the dope compromises the ethics, sadly for some.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: smalls on October 19, 2015, 06:55:30 PM
Sure it is. Some people don't find it, but it's possible, I been there before. Where even though there's two addicts so each score is cut in half you got two hustlers out there making something out of nothing... It's the only way. Those fckn squares that think they "save" you from yourself, man fuck that noise, I hate those sanctimonious bitches. You know where I'd be if you hadn't helped me, I'd be high right now and a hell of a lot happier Bitch!

It's possible, but is it sustainable? I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a relationship and how actively you're using. What if a person is on maintenance? Is it best to date someone who is also on maintenance?

Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Chip on October 19, 2015, 07:01:07 PM
everybody is on their own trajectory.

true sync. is rare I'd hazzard a guess.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: 40mgtofreedom on October 19, 2015, 08:08:05 PM
So we had a bitchin thread in a past life regarding how to bring up being addicted

It had been a decent amount of time since I had been on a date before yesterday
and even longer since it was someone actually cool to me haha
Had such a good time, see some MC Esher woodcuts and lithographs
eat delicious tacos and beers and weed

then somehow she came to mention her brother is only 18 and hooked on benzos
She was visibly disturbed by having to share this info
not because she was ashamed but genuinely scared for him

i had to decide right then what to do, and as always, erred on the side of stupidity
"you should know that im physically dependent on opiates"
she did a good job hiding it if she was shocked
that lead to being told no worries, i understand these things can happen
but there is no way i can ever get emotionally involved with you as long as you use opiates


I do not get many chances at being happy with other people
hell even tolerating them is challenging more often than i care to admit
but the fucking thing that keeps me sane also keeps me completely isolated

should I have said nothing? I'm just so tired of being deceitful

if you're just looking for a stabbin, then yeah lie your ass off, but i think you, like me, are looking for something more, something genuine, and that requires honesty,  you dont have to lead with the confession obviously but yeah....

the alternative is to go two - three years down the road with that girl that you love, lying to her, promising to quit, being a scumbag etc, and totally hurting both of you.  thats what i just got done doing in my last relationship.

it really says a lot about you TTA that you care enough to think about this, that alone gives me confidence that you will find what you're looking for someday... before you die, lol just kidding about that last part.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on October 19, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Its been working for over a year of living together but the choice was made together to kick. Its what we both want and we will succeed.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 20, 2015, 12:45:23 AM
Well fortunately I have had no shortage of new people to talk to
So I've been able to try a few different approaches

Casually mentioning that I USED to be addicted
(after being handed a homemade kratom drink SHE MAKES AND SELLS AT FESTIVALS!)
well her Mom just died, like her funeral had been two days prior, from "drug abuse"
you can pretty much guess how this one ended


So far I haven't said shit to anyone else, not even a hint
That hasn't stopped things from not working out for other reasons

I don't think I would mention it to someone if I were just looking to bang
which of course is part of my motivations
but I dont like to fuck people I wouldnt also date
 :-\


there is some hope
in that I am talking to a truly amazing woman
who very clearly does not stand for the fuckery perpetrated against non-normals

I havent mentioned it yet because I do really like her
and yes, some stabbin may be in order
before she gets to find out about my affinity for stabbing myself
I'm just not sure at what point that needs to happen

Maybe I should just follow my heart....

Or just keep listening to a bunch of likeminded individuals with my best interest at heart
 ;D ;D ;D

you guize maek me so heppy
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: skramamme on October 20, 2015, 05:47:57 AM
I sincerely hope you find someone who loves and supports you regardless of your past or current situation.
Em xox
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: corlene on October 20, 2015, 06:58:50 AM
Despite me being real I'll and all I've had my luck with all the girls from Philly ND jersey comin down here for so called treatment, this is the halfway house and treatment capital of the world.

Guess u can say I'm a poacher? Who cares

Even normal girls understand I take drugs, fuck I'm dying, altho I don't look like I am currently.

I find being honest about things is akin to flipping a coin.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 20, 2015, 07:11:30 AM
Once I start to see a doctor
and get a legitimate script of my own
It might be a lot easier

I can treat it like it really isnt any problem
or shouldnt be at least
in not mentioning it specifically

I could just say I have to take medicine for my spine
which would be true
not saying it'd be guaranteed smooth sailing
but probably easier than explaining I am addicted to illegal (for me) drugs
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on October 26, 2015, 01:01:33 AM
so i have pretty much given up on trying to meet any women
for any reason

unfortunately my mom literally just went through my phone
and saw my  texts to my dealer

so yea, i told her the truth
that the only reason ive been able to keep a steady job
NOT spend days on end lying in bed depressed
to be able to even have the desire to leave the house to do something social
is because I have been on maintenance

"so you'd rather take illegal drugs than get real help"
clearly she has forgotten the past 15 year of my life
and how much modern psychiatry has "helped" me to deal with these issus

and now just silence
and disgust

i didnt bother to mention trying to ween down
or looking for a doctor to legitimize my treatment
because there is no point
i will always be deceptive and a hurtful person in my actions to them

all that being said, i dont care any more
i cant be bothered by what other people think about me
even if they are my family
im not going to let their shitty judgement ruin my life again
i have FINALLY reached a point where I can function like a real person
and nothing, no amount of guilt they try and impose on me, is gonna make a difference this time
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Anti-hero on October 26, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
Lone ranger hit that shit on the head. Love is two junkies who dont hide their stash from each other and trust each other to not lift any pills. Love is giving your dopesick partner your wash or the fent patch thats been partially cheeked. Is shaking and shivering and stinking like rotten humans together when your both sick and being empathetic to each other even when they burned through their drugs faster than you.

But things work different for everyone.

is that REALLY possible ? it sounds wonderful in theory but the addiction is a personal trip, too.

Yea it happens.
When we score it's just left on a plate in the privy.
I was to lazy to get up last night.
Told her just don't wait on me if she is sick.
She does hide the benzos from me.
But other than that we are both sick.
Or half well
Or full blown high as fuck.

There out there. To many trees in the forest though
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Zoops on October 26, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
I'm a king bee,
Buzzin' round your hive,
I'm a king bee,
Buzzin' round your hive,
I can make a pretty honey,
Let me come inside.

Oh, I'm a king bee,
I can buzz all night long,
I'm a king bee,
I can buzz all night long,
'cos when you hear me buzzin',
There's some stingin' goin' on...
- Muddy Waters
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Junkette on October 27, 2015, 02:22:40 PM
You know, maybe you should try switching over to PST. It's "legal" and easy to pass off as some weird natural health beverage. Everyone at work is convinced I make a recipe of herbs and teas to help with my back and mental state. Shit, when I start getting grumpy my boss actually sends me to go have a "tea time". No one looks at me any different but they also don't realize I'm slugging down an infusion of opium, which is technically protected under the Laudanum laws (since it was invented in the 1600, Laudanum has a grandfather protected status...and essentially PST is laudanum without the alcohol or extra herbs like wormwood).

Also, don't give up. I know how much it sucks to be lonely. I was pretty much on a downward spiral of suicidal usage and had given up on my life when I met my wife. Some people are able to look through/past the "drugs". The life I have right now is something I never thought was possible when I was in my 20's. I honestly expected and wanted to be dead by now.

When it is meant to happen for you it will. You just can't give up on it. You never know what is going to happen from one day to the next. The best thing you can do is meet new people and try to get involved with other things you are passionate about. I first ran into my lady on New Years Eve at a scummy dive bar, she was drunk and crying...I thought she was super intense and I tried to avoid her...but she never forgot my compassion towards her during her drunken public breakdown. I mean, I had no idea who she was but I went up to her because I saw she was in bad shape to see if I could help. Later that year my wife saw me performing at a noise concert and the rest is history. We had enough things in common that the drugs weren't an issue. I was able to show her what kind of person I was before she knew the extent of my drug dependence.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on November 06, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
You know, maybe you should try switching over to PST. It's "legal" and easy to pass off as some weird natural health beverage. Everyone at work is convinced I make a recipe of herbs and teas to help with my back and mental state. Shit, when I start getting grumpy my boss actually sends me to go have a "tea time". No one looks at me any different but they also don't realize I'm slugging down an infusion of opium, which is technically protected under the Laudanum laws (since it was invented in the 1600, Laudanum has a grandfather protected status...and essentially PST is laudanum without the alcohol or extra herbs like wormwood).

Also, don't give up. I know how much it sucks to be lonely. I was pretty much on a downward spiral of suicidal usage and had given up on my life when I met my wife. Some people are able to look through/past the "drugs". The life I have right now is something I never thought was possible when I was in my 20's. I honestly expected and wanted to be dead by now.

When it is meant to happen for you it will. You just can't give up on it. You never know what is going to happen from one day to the next. The best thing you can do is meet new people and try to get involved with other things you are passionate about. I first ran into my lady on New Years Eve at a scummy dive bar, she was drunk and crying...I thought she was super intense and I tried to avoid her...but she never forgot my compassion towards her during her drunken public breakdown. I mean, I had no idea who she was but I went up to her because I saw she was in bad shape to see if I could help. Later that year my wife saw me performing at a noise concert and the rest is history. We had enough things in common that the drugs weren't an issue. I was able to show her what kind of person I was before she knew the extent of my drug dependence.
" The best thing you can do is meet new people and try to get involved with other things you are passionate about". Ok, well Im in Indiana and have enough money to take care of you... Are you just purely into girls or do you go both ways? If you go both ways then you and your girl can come here...
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Riddick on November 06, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Or if you have trust issues, then I can accommodate that.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on November 18, 2015, 12:28:03 AM
Uppy up update! ;D

Met a new woman on the tinder
talked the last few weeks on and of like I have a million times with others
none of whom bother after two weeks
let alone even consider meeting

Well she was totally game
and I wasted no time slipping in that I see a doctor and am scripted morphine
"For some health issues I developed in high school"

She didn't give a fuck!
And even felt bad that people shit on me for a medical need!

So naturally I ate that pussy like it was free nilla wafers (similar smell)
(Also I love nilla wafers)
No boom boom but thats ok
shes got some heavy baggage herself, at least some would see it that way


Wow its just SO FUXKING REFRESHING to be myself
and be jerked off for it


OH MUH FUCKING JEEZ!
At some point after we started fooling around
She said in the most serious, almost mystified way
"Ive never seen a dick so pale"

I pretty much died right then and decided I must marry this woman ha
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Specter on November 18, 2015, 03:49:22 AM
So you getting morphine scripted now or did you just tell her that?  There are a lot of people that think getting pills scripted is completely 100% fine but if you buy them off the street then its the end of the world.  When you say "your dealer" is this person truly a dealer or just a person that gets a morphine script?

My fiancé used to freak the fuck out when I bought pills from the street even though I was scripted the same drug as well.  I used to get 15mg oxycodone IR pills every month and I would run out the last 3-4 days every month... well someone I knew got a similar script so I would buy 8-10 every month to hold me over.  I lied about it because telling the truth to my fiancé caused more problems than it was worth... even though I was scripted the exact same pills.  The last 3-4 days of the month it was like I was kicking the shit out of her dog every day or something.

There's a stigma about being a "pill head" even though I was with her for 6 years prior and never took pills and only started after a car accident left me injured.  I can't even imagine what it would be like if I was telling someone new...
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: makita on November 18, 2015, 05:59:54 AM
I mean I think the secret is to find someone with the perspective and critical thinking skills to examine "what we know" (ie drug war propaganda) for all drugs, not only the ones they themselves do/have done.  Fortunately that seems to be rising among younger people. 

The first part of that is to have done that work yourself, so when you're explaining it to them that there really is no meaningful difference between the drug your Dr gave you on Thursday and the same exact drug you buy from your friend next Friday, you have the strength of your convictions.  For me that means not putting up with someone else's projections and hysteria, and making them understand that that shit is a thinking/feeling problem on their end, not a behavior problem on mine, and I wont lie about it because to me that's like agreeing that its my problem and complicates the issue for them with issues of betrayal, etc. (although I will omit information if we BOTH agree that's better for both of us, sort of like a dont ask, dont tell open relationship agreement).

But I get its more complicated if you're already in a relationship with someone. 

TTA: congrats on the Nilla wafer experience (yum, it's been awhile).  Glad she sees you as the victim in this whole drug war game, hope it stays that way. 
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Z on November 18, 2015, 10:16:58 AM
I'm really happy for you man.  Finding someone who is understanding of your situation is hard, but so rewarding.  congrats on the tasty lunch too.  Maybe you will get dessert soon!
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: thetalkingasshole on November 18, 2015, 02:28:36 PM
So you getting morphine scripted now or did you just tell her that?  There are a lot of people that think getting pills scripted is completely 100% fine but if you buy them off the street then its the end of the world.  When you say "your dealer" is this person truly a dealer or just a person that gets a morphine script?

My fiancé used to freak the fuck out when I bought pills from the street even though I was scripted the same drug as well.  I used to get 15mg oxycodone IR pills every month and I would run out the last 3-4 days every month... well someone I knew got a similar script so I would buy 8-10 every month to hold me over.  I lied about it because telling the truth to my fiancé caused more problems than it was worth... even though I was scripted the exact same pills.  The last 3-4 days of the month it was like I was kicking the shit out of her dog every day or something.

There's a stigma about being a "pill head" even though I was with her for 6 years prior and never took pills and only started after a car accident left me injured.  I can't even imagine what it would be like if I was telling someone new...


I would say he is definitely a dealer
in that he AND his whole family go to the same doc the same day
for the same scripts
and then turn around and sell 8mg of dilaudid for $30
and 100mg morphine for $25
All of which is profit since insurance pays for it all

I think considering I've paid his mortgage the last 16 months
I will consider him a dealer


And I am still going to my "suburban pharmacist"
I have my bills paid for this month
so I can start saving up, probably have enough cash by first week of December
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: Thoms on November 18, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Congrats on the nilla waffer bud. Glad it sounds like youll be getting some (insert clever dessert sexual enuendo here)
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: potato on December 12, 2015, 03:25:36 PM
Some people seem to be okay with medically scripted drugs as the exception ... but the worst is folks who don't believe there's anything actually wrong with you.  I've actually had doctors tell me my spinal cord injury is all in my head and I just need to suck it up.  pure class.

Personally I don't share any of it unless I know the person is on the level ... either an ex-user or sufficiently liberally minded with regards to drugs.  You're better off just avoiding the folks that can't wrap their heads around it ... though there's no reason to let them pigeon hole you on a first date and ruin your chances of having even a casual encounter ...

If you eventually need or want to share your situation it's probably best to try and convey that it isn't what defines you.  You are not "just an addict" ... it's just another detail in the sea of things about you.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: corlene on December 12, 2015, 03:49:59 PM
I'd love to go visit this doctor with actual problems TTA

As for potato, what spinal problem do you have that's all in your head?
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: potato on December 12, 2015, 04:29:23 PM
>As for potato, what spinal problem do you have that's all in your head?

I have 5 levels of herniations with central canal stenosis.  Some doctors seem to think any kind of back pain or herniation is the same as a simple herniation and sciatica that impinges the sacral or lumbar nerve roots (the nerves that exit the spinal cord and run down your legs).  Central canal stenosis is different though, and even with one level if it's obstructing any more than 50% of your spinal cord is going to be causing intractable pain and functional impairment in a way that makes sciatica look like a skinned knee.

Beyond telling me to suck it up I regularly get encouraged to have surgery or interventional stuff that ranges from highly experimental and rarely successful in cases like mine ... to stuff that is outright banned in many countries ... ie; The most common thing for sciatica is the epidural injections, which clearly state on the box that the steroids are not to be used for epidural injections ... even if that wasn't the case it'd be pointless because I don't have sciatica in the first place.

I've had great luck with anesthesiologists and neurology guys though ... and almost always they will sit me down and give me a long lecture about how I should ignore anyone who suggests surgery and what-not.
Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: corlene on December 12, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
That's certainly not in your head. I know all too well the danger of spinal surgery and interventional pain medicine.

My left brachial plexus is fried, and two failed fusions amongst other things.

I hope you can find someone who will help manage your pain. Your right about anesthesiologists helping. My PM doc is board certified in both anesthesiology and pain medicine.

Title: Re: "Oh by the way, I'm physically dependent on morphine."
Post by: widowmaker on December 17, 2015, 06:40:42 PM
I tell women that I'm a drug addict before things get serious between us. They have a right to know, and I'm tired of the runaround of trying to hide my habit from someone.
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