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Core Topics => HCV and HIV => Topic started by: Chip on November 17, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
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Chipper says: IF THE NEWS SOURCE PROVES TO BE WRONG then EVERYTHING I HAVE WRITTEN IS INVALID AND TOTAL FABRICATION
he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
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...winning...
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...winning...
exactly what ran through my mind ... I liked his candour but now he's another homicidal fool.
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...winning...
He must have contracted it from the Tiger blood that was running through his veins. I never liked the guy, and if he knowingly exposed people, I don't even have the words.
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...winning...
I never liked the guy, and if he knowingly exposed people, I don't even have the words.
I liked Navy Seals.....but it pretty much ends there.
Knowingly infecting someone with HIV is about as bad as it gets. If you've gotta murder someone.....do a little research and maybe choose a victim that's got it coming.
Pretty fucking spineless IMO.
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the thing is, he could afford a condom or two.
I'm angry but as it turns out, I am a better man than he ... NOW !
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holy shit this dude has got a world of shit headed his way. I am glad his arrogance may finally be coming to an end, however, I'm sad it took this.
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the thing is, he could afford a condom or two.
I'm angry but as it turns out, I am a better man than he ... NOW !
No shit
I cannot comprehend someone
Knowingly doing this
He's got deep issues with women
Not that it's an excuse
Funny thing tho...
When it was first revealed that
There was an un-named
Hollywood stars
Doing this
Hero said
"I bet it's Charlie Sheen"
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What the Actual Fuck.
I never liked him and couldn't understand why his stupid TV show (2 and a half men) ever got all the viewers it did.
Asshole.
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this is fucking mass murder for personal gratification.
NO LESS.
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Gross douche.
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I guess being young, very rich, famous, very handsome and born into Hollywood royalty kinda makes you think that you are the chosen one who is better than us schmucks !
well pal, ya got that one wrong !
I used to think he was at least cool for being candid about his drug use but in fact, he was bragging all along.
this could see him imprisoned for the rest of his life - they're gonna love him down at the local lock-up.
yes, I was once envied him but now I feel vindicated now about my own chosen path.
he wasn't an addict, nope -- just a little brat looking for adult lollies.
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There were rumors last week that someone "famous" in Hwood was HIV+..., I guess they were referring to Charlie.
Yeah, if he didn't inform his partners about his status, he is in a shitload of trouble.
At the very least, hopefully his victims can sue so CS will have to pay for their anti-retroviral meds.
A sick individual.
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he didn't even try to practice safe-sex or cared about his partners, from what I heard.
thousands of women who then can transfer the virus to their next poor fuck.
"going viral" paints the magnitude of his selfishness.
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I guess being young, very rich, famous, very handsome and born into Hollywood royalty kinda makes you think that you are the chosen one who is better than us schmucks !
well pal, ya got that one wrong !
I used to think he was at least cool for being candid about his drug use but in fact, he was bragging all along.
this could see him imprisoned for the rest of his life - they're gonna love him down at the local lock-up.
yes, I was once envied him but now I feel vindicated now about my own chosen path.
he wasn't an addict, nope -- just a little brat looking for adult lollies.
Not to take that dirtbag low life's side but what he did is totally addict behavior. It's an addict with power and money and .... fuck him. I agree with everything you're saying though, chipper.
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
NO shit!!!??
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source: http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_29124781/can-charlie-sheen-be-jailed-exposing-others-hiv
Can Charlie Sheen face criminal charges if allegations that he knowingly exposed women to HIV by not telling them and having unprotected sex with them are true?
Technically, yes, according to California law. Whether he would ever prosecuted for it is another matter.
the story and graphics continue at the source above.
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I JUST threw my VHS copy of "Hot Shots Part Deux" DIRECTLY out the window...
What in the FUCK happened to that kid?
Marty must be brimming with pride.
Jesus.
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I guess being young, very rich, famous, very handsome and born into Hollywood royalty kinda makes you think that you are the chosen one who is better than us schmucks !
well pal, ya got that one wrong !
I used to think he was at least cool for being candid about his drug use but in fact, he was bragging all along.
this could see him imprisoned for the rest of his life - they're gonna love him down at the local lock-up.
yes, I was once envied him but now I feel vindicated now about my own chosen path.
he wasn't an addict, nope -- just a little brat looking for adult lollies.
Not to take that dirtbag low life's side but what he did is totally addict behavior. It's an addict with power and money and .... fuck him. I agree with everything you're saying though, chipper.
Fuck him with a cracked wrench.....and he thought he could get away with smacking around women, and now he's probably infected how many?? narcissistic prick!
Always really liked Emilio Estevez, though.
btw- Charlie is gonna be on the "Today Show" tomorrow am.
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I guess being young, very rich, famous, very handsome and born into Hollywood royalty kinda makes you think that you are the chosen one who is better than us schmucks !
well pal, ya got that one wrong !
I used to think he was at least cool for being candid about his drug use but in fact, he was bragging all along.
this could see him imprisoned for the rest of his life - they're gonna love him down at the local lock-up.
yes, I was once envied him but now I feel vindicated now about my own chosen path.
he wasn't an addict, nope -- just a little brat looking for adult lollies.
Not to take that dirtbag low life's side but what he did is totally addict behavior. It's an addict with power and money and .... fuck him. I agree with everything you're saying though, chipper.
St. T- you are right and i am wrong to say he isn't a real addict; it IS low-rent addict behaviour. you have a darn good point there.
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I'd noticed how thin and pale he'd been looking on Anger Management but just
chalked it up to heavy drug use.
These poor women. Ughh :-\
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I totally agree that what he did was despicable! What an irresponsible cock sucker. However, it is up to a woman to protect herself and practice safe sex. You have to be careful and practical and not fall for a fucking line like "it's ok..I've been tested and i'm good" or "you are the only one, babe" etc. It is important for women to ALWAYS demand that her partner use a condom!!!! Is it more fun without one??? Hell yes!!! but that very fleeting good feeling is not worth your life...and AIDS is a horrendous way to die!!!
He really is a total shithead with no thought for anyone but himself and in no way do I condone this sick, twisted behavior. I think if you are HIV positive or have AIDS you have a moral obligation to tell anyone you are going to be intimate with. It should be THEIR choice if they want to sleep with someone who is infected, not the person who is sick! Unfortunately, lots of people are dishonest so everyone needs to be responsible for their own sexual health!!!
I have one more thing to say...EVERYONE USE CONDOMS!!!! They may dull the sensation, they may be cumbersome and awkward and they aren't even 100% effective, but it's the best way (besides abstinence, of course!) to protect yourself against a plethora of STD's, incuding, but not limited to, HIV!!!
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the gay friends of mine who had (died) and has HIV are EXTREMELY worried about safety.
this is just the height of irresponsibility.
if the gay boys can do the right thing then what's his excuse.
man, i am so angry about this !
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Man, what a pathetic and totally sick thing to do. Its confirmed he did know about his virus, and still continued to have unprotected sex. Didnt have time to read article sorry
I banged a chick when i was 15 who later went on to do porn for a little while. If anyones interested in her porn name ill pm it to you. Most guys say wow man shes so hot to the few ive shown. But they dont know how much she was passed around. I got chlamydia from her at 16. Then as i was about to have sex with a girl i met from work and rly liked. Thank goodness she was mature enough to tell me she had herpes. Yel CS has been on the de line for awhile. I guess even rich junkies/coke fiends still find ways to do horrendous acts And his addiction is by no means any excuse for this
Shame on him, the media will love this And i predict the courts will nail him to set an example and put an end to his charades. Even tho in reality and IME he has not been relevant since his roast and the interview aka "Winning" bs. Yea pal. You're a real winner now
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
What a low life piece of shit. Its funny today i saw like 5 aids treatment posters and commericals do maybe some good will come out of this... Maybe aids will become less stigmatized.
Put yeah couldnt of happened to a nicer more humble guy [sarcasm]. None of those women deserved to be infected. I hope ge gets what he deserves in this life or the next. Its funny how we lift assholes like this up on a pedestal in america
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Well, its 7:53am CT - Today Show just announced Charlie Sheen to be interviewed shortly.
Perhaps he is planning to humble himself ?? Tell the world how sorry he is for his selfish and irresponsible behavior, I'm sure........
UPDATE-
Wow, he really looks beat, he used to be such a handsome man, even if he is a PIG-he has that alcoholic glow going on. He says he has had unprotected sex with ONLY 2 people and they were informed in advance, other than that he wore protection and said he never intentionally put anyone at risk. He says shame and anger(he's known for 4yrs about HIV status)drove him to spiral out of control drink and drugs and roid rage. He said he was being blackmailed by so called friends he thought he could trust for millions.
The interview to be continued after these messages......lol.
He's going to talk more about his health and future, along with his physician, Dr. Robert Huisinga
Doc say he has an undetectable level of the virus in his blood, atm and is healthy. He is currently on a 4 anti-viral drug a day cocktail, states he is now drug free, but still drinks alcohol.
He says he is assuming the worst, though as far as future law suits and has already paid out 10 million in shakedowns. During this interview he is stuttering really bad.
He say with all the "garbage" he has read about his self recently, it cant get much worse. He said that if there is one guy who has to contract this and find a cure, it will be him.
He says he has a couple of films lined up and even another show. He says he is really far down the road in relieving his "demons".
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If that's the truth i feel terrible for jumping to conclusions. As long as was honest, than he did nothing wrong. His behavior a while back makes sense. I actually feel sorry for him a little bit. Hes rich though, so other than looking a little worse for wear, he can can prob live a long life because he can afford all the best meds.
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Word up about the meds. Even if your poor there is the Ryan White fund thst hooks those w HIV/AIDS fee healthcare, meds, dental the works. There is a one pill solution that Gilead makes, it was just released and approved by the fda.
You don't have to suffer and die w hiv you can enjoy life without much deterioration. Hell these treatments make it so the hiv is undetectable.
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It looks like the original source for the article chipper linked was the National Enquirer. Not exactly a reputable paper. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere between thousands and 2. Of course with Charlie's reputation thousands sounds credible.
My initial thought was "His poor partners. And their partners. And their partners. And their partners. And their partners." Sick stuff. Even 2 people is 2 too many.
I hope for his sake that he is truly in the process of cleaning up.
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
What a low life piece of shit. Its funny today i saw like 5 aids treatment posters and commericals do maybe some good will come out of this... Maybe aids will become less stigmatized.
Put yeah couldnt of happened to a nicer more humble guy [sarcasm]. None of those women deserved to be infected. I hope ge gets what he deserves in this life or the next. Its funny how we lift assholes like this up on a pedestal in america
(He has HIV, not AIDS)
And you intend to be a therapist?
I swear nearly everything you post is teeming with vitriol. I think you'd make a much better politician or a banker.
Just sayin!
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
What a low life piece of shit. Its funny today i saw like 5 aids treatment posters and commericals do maybe some good will come out of this... Maybe aids will become less stigmatized.
Put yeah couldnt of happened to a nicer more humble guy [sarcasm]. None of those women deserved to be infected. I hope ge gets what he deserves in this life or the next. Its funny how we lift assholes like this up on a pedestal in america
(He has HIV, not AIDS)
And you intend to be a therapist?
I swear nearly everything you post is teeming with vitriol. I think you'd make a much better politician or a banker.
Just sayin!
I agree completely opus
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
What a low life piece of shit. Its funny today i saw like 5 aids treatment posters and commericals do maybe some good will come out of this... Maybe aids will become less stigmatized.
Put yeah couldnt of happened to a nicer more humble guy [sarcasm]. None of those women deserved to be infected. I hope ge gets what he deserves in this life or the next. Its funny how we lift assholes like this up on a pedestal in america
(He has HIV, not AIDS)
And you intend to be a therapist?
I swear nearly everything you post is teeming with vitriol. I think you'd make a much better politician or a banker.
Just sayin!
Im a poor therpist because i accidently put aids instead of hiv. That's your criteria for a proficient therpist. I guess you never made a typo or made a understandable mistake. How about i pick at your posts and look for errors. This isnt a expermental research paper; its a forum post. Im sure everyone knew what i meant and what i refering too.
I think ill listen to the many teachers and supervisors who give me positive feedback instead of some moron who picks at a understandable mistake.
I highly doubt you could be any of afore mentioned professions
you mentioned.
Just saying lol (do you think your super clever or witty when you end a post with that)? Your not.
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I think ill listen to the many teachers and supervisors who give me positive feedback instead of some moron who picks at a understandable mistake.
I highly doubt you could be any of afore mentioned professions
you mentioned.
Just saying lol (do you think your super clever or witty when you end a post with that)? Your not.
I REALLY REALLY hate being cheerleader guy, and I don't have a problem with you Makadone, but your claim is inaccurate, Opus is one smart motherfucker.
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he has had HIV and knowingly infected possibly 1000's of women.
he will no doubt face legal action and the lawsuits may end his affluent and decadent lifestyle.
google it.
What a low life piece of shit. Its funny today i saw like 5 aids treatment posters and commericals do maybe some good will come out of this... Maybe aids will become less stigmatized.
Put yeah couldnt of happened to a nicer more humble guy [sarcasm]. None of those women deserved to be infected. I hope ge gets what he deserves in this life or the next. Its funny how we lift assholes like this up on a pedestal in america
(He has HIV, not AIDS)
And you intend to be a therapist?
I swear nearly everything you post is teeming with vitriol. I think you'd make a much better politician or a banker.
Just sayin!
Im a poor therpist because i accidently put aids instead of hiv. That's your criteria for a proficient therpist. I guess you never made a typo or made a understandable mistake. How about i pick at your posts and look for errors. This isnt a expermental research paper; its a forum post. Im sure everyone knew what i meant and what i refering too.
I think ill listen to the many teachers and supervisors who give me positive feedback instead of some moron who picks at a understandable mistake.
I highly doubt you could be any of afore mentioned professions
you mentioned.
Just saying lol (do you think your super clever or witty when you end a post with that)? Your not.
No, see what I mean? You missed the point again. I think you'd be a lousy therapist because you're an asshole, argumentative, overtly negative and quite obviously not terribly bright; my initial assertion had absolutely nothing to do with any "typos" (nor with your medical ignorance).
Is that more clear?
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Wow...
Makadone you're batting 1000%
There ain't ya
Anyway...
On topic
Does anyone remember
Charlie Sheen giving
Lindsay Lohan $1million?
I wonder if it's b/c
She was one of the ones he infected??
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I hope I am wrong.
I heard this on the radio.
I'd rather suffer the embarrassment of being wrong than this be true ... all that unprotected sex caught up with him.
having an undetectable viral load doesn't means much as o see my friend suffer a lot and is tied to the hospital.
he is a long term survivor and is on about 180 mg. Morphine a day.
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Wow...
Makadone you're batting 1000%
There ain't ya
Anyway...
On topic
Does anyone remember
Charlie Sheen giving
Lindsay Lohan $1million?
I wonder if it's b/c
She was one of the ones he infected??
I believe it was a 100k- when they made scary movie 5, he found out she was supposed to get 250K but they only gave her a 100K, so he gave her 100K, and she never even thanked him at the time(2012?)so the story goes.
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One of his ex-wives(has kid with) came out and said she had unprotected sex with him knowing he had HIV. Reason being the doctors told her he had a barley traceable amount in his blood and that the risk of her getting it is low, but he would still advise against it.. But she did anyway. So if it's really only 2.. That's a definite one.
I was mad at first before getting details, but I couldn't really believe, even with his ego, that he was that dark hearted to purposely infect thousands of girls. He can be an asshole but never struck me as evil.
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One of his ex-wives(has kid with) came out and said she had unprotected sex with him knowing he had HIV. Reason being the doctors told her he had a barley traceable amount in his blood and that the risk of her getting it is low, but he would still advise against it.. But she did anyway. So if it's really only 2.. That's a definite one.
I was mad at first before getting details, but I couldn't really believe, even with his ego, that he was that dark hearted to purposely infect thousands of girls. He can be an asshole but never struck me as evil.
Yeah I was grossed out and pissed when I first posted too, I'm still grossed out...but I'm more sad for everyone effected than anything though.
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i dont think he knowingly infected anyone, i think the reason he was spending thousands on hookers is because they knew he had hiv and he was paying them extra hazzard pay and to keep quiet, probably using condoms and being careful, he probably went on that bender when he first found out
lots of people are saying all kinds of shit like he knowingly gave ppl hiv but we should wait for the facts, obviously ppl were blackmailing him as well, i really dont think he would knowingly give ppl hiv, he would know the consequences to that being someone with 100s of millions of dollars and lawyers i bet he was paying them extra to knowingly have sex with him, like i said hazard pay safe as possible sex
but who knows
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yes 40, i think you are probably right bit and i hope i am wrong (people actually do such things, tho') ... if so, i will retract everything defamatory statement by archiving this thread.
love to be wrong, i would ...
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yes 40, i think you are probably right bit and i hope i am wrong (people actually do such things, tho') ... if so, i will retract everything defamatory statement by archiving this thread.
love to be wrong, i would ...
It's just so hard thinking about Charlie sheens bullshit after reading about "marina/witch" from "snap goes the crocodile "
http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,1762.0/topicseen.html
Like seriously two different worlds.
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if anyone knows how to act, this guy has a head start ... that's why it's going to be hard to prove, i guess ...
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lots of people are saying all kinds of shit like he knowingly gave ppl hiv but we should wait for the facts,
That was MY bad.....I'll own it. Hope that I was wrong too having a few days to think about it. I meant no harm....
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You can ask the service for girls who ARE positive, or so i've been told. Someone out there has a list of these girls and they still have to make a living.
No harm, no foul if this is what Charlie did to have sex with large numbers of women.
As for his strange acbehavior since 2011, I suspected something major was up when he sued Lorre in early 2011. Care to wager that's when he found out he was positive? I'm sure CHarlie was in need of cleaning up, perhaps learning about HIV freaked him out, but he saw a nice easy way to grab millions, tax-free, to pay the piper for whoever came after him if he infected them.
That's about all I care to post about Carlos Estevan.
Oh, one more thing. Even it there are numerous women he might have infected without their consent I don't think Charlie will see the inside of a prison cell. He's just too well connected and so many people have the shitty, "if you slut around you deserve what you get" attitude. We'll see.
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I judged him too quickly.
that's the problem. I withdraw my comments and wish him good health. today's meds. really seem to work.
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RE his partners sleeping with him sans protection;
There's a med you can take to reduce your risk of exposure to HIV if engaging in unprotected sex, so his partners may have had access to that before sleeping with him, which would have made their choice to do so much safer (just like many people with recurrent herpes can use medication to suppress the virus, thus significantly lowering the chances of passing on the virus).
As for his behaviour when he went crazy I'm pretty sure it's called "drug induced psychosis". It's not funny, it's sad and dangerous. And yep, he may well have developed that issue after finding out about his HIV status and going on a self destructive drug binge, because of the stigma of HIV (none of which has been minimised here,it would seem) and his access to easy money and drugs.
Would I have behaved any better if i were in his shoes? Probably not. The guy has major issues alongside his addiction/s and with that I can relate.
Good for him for coming out and being open about his status, thankfully in the States and other first world countries it's not that difficult to have a pretty decent quality of life with an HIV diagnosis these days.
But it certainly doesn't appear as if he intentionally tried to infect anyone at this stage and, since society loves to think the worst of addicts, perhaps we should reserve judgement for now.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to minimise the devastation of having a disease like that, especially if you're in a 3rd world country (as you're basically fucked), but if you have access to it the medicine these days is very effective at managing HIV from what I understand.
My friends cousin was one of the first full blown AIDS cases here in Victoria and he went from being an amazing young man to having dementia and going blind in his late 20's before dying. So no, it's no picnic (but again, full blown AIDS is not HIV).
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^the med approved here state aide is called truvada.and unlike most Gilead products, are not ~30k for 28 pills, just 1500 for 30.
Still too high for most to afford.. sucks really 😢
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^the med approved here state aide is called truvada.and unlike most Gilead products, are not ~30k for 28 pills, just 1500 for 30.
Still too high for most to afford.. sucks really 😢
you would think that they would be FREE-to keep the spread down!!!
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@wildcat,
If you have HIV/AIDS and can't get meds to help you, you've gotta be living on the moon. Even in Africa people who want help get help
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@wildcat,
If you have HIV/AIDS and can't get meds to help you, you've gotta be living on the moon. Even in Africa people who want help get help
(?!) I do realize this Corlene. And I'm pretty sure those living on the moon realize this too.
I was not talking about HIV/AIDS patients. (For whom the anti-viral's have been available no matter your financial circumstance for some time now)
I only meant that those drugs(that may suppress the virus) that are meant for those who will still have unprotected sex with an hiv + partner, should be more accessible rather than1500$ for 30-s
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This story is not about Charlie Sheen callously barebacking with thousands of women while being infectious with HIV.
This story is about HIV stigma, and lack of accurate info, and the hysterical reaction of some corners of the press (and some individuals here) is a great example of exactly that.
For example, someone who has an undetectable viral load from being on suppressive meds is basically near-impossible to get HIV from, even without using any other safer sex methods...and if you add Truvada to the mix you are totally solid; it is marketed specifically for people who are in sero-discordant relationships (where one person is pos and the other is neg), to make sure the neg party stays that way even if they stop using condoms.
Jesus. Judging from the way this thread alone started, how much would YOU want to come out if you were HIV+? If anything it's bullshit moral panic reactions that keep HIV spreading, because they keep people from getting tested out of fear...and people who don't get tested and don't know their status, or assume they are neg, are the ones who are infecting their partners. Not some imaginary population of sociopaths who know they are positive and decide to keep fucking their way through the neighborhood without condoms anyway.
And corlene it is absolutely NOT true that people all over the world have affordable access to HIV drugs, esp in low and middle income countries. 2/3 of adults and 3/4 of children living with AIDS are not on treatment for financial or other access related reasons. Millions of people a year die because of this, partly because of the expense charged by big pharma for the drugs and partly because of donation money drying up, esp post-recession and with everyone thinking that HIV is basically nbd anymore. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/01/millions-hiv-die-lack-access-aids-drugs
With all due respect corlene, I like you and you have of a lot of interesting things to say. But this is not the first time you've made sweepingly inaccurate statements in which you generalize your personal view/experience of the medical system, which seems (despite the personal pain of illness and disability) to come from a place of significant access and social privilege. You seem to assume your experience is similar to to that of everyone else in the country/world, but it's just not so. I'm sure we all wish it was.
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This is a serious issue for me, just because I simply hate this virus and hepc.
I don't really trust the article all that much as its been proven many many times over that if you get tested (costs less than a dollar for the test)and get meds (generally free to the poor) you can live a productive life.
That's true the world over. I know it's happening in Africa as I have a friend over there in ebola land at a NGO HIV clinic, and there are thousands of patients who actively are getting help, for free.
There are dozens of these clinics all over africa. All of these companies who are developing these new state of the art drugs, give a shit ton away for tax credits. If people seek out treatment you can get it for free, or an affordable price based upon your earnings.
If you live in the US the Ryan White program will take care of every health related problem including dental and eyes etc, if your HIV+ for free. Things in Africa are different but if you want help, you can certainly get it for free.
And in india, they don't believe in US patent laws on druga, so they produce generics of the new great wonder drugs for pennies, and nearly all Indians have access to treatment from the government for chronic stuff such as hiv/hep/TB etc.
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You know. I now see how the HIV stigma is really a big deal.
I'm about 10,000% sure i am negative. i generally fuck good girls and sometimes use condoms and don't have sex like every week.
This thread made me think. I saw QuitingTomorows post on new orleans places that pay to have you tested and i wanted money. I thought about it and realized even I was nervous and unsure about getting tested.
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You know. I now see how the HIV stigma is really a big deal.
I'm about 10,000% sure i am negative. i generally fuck good girls and sometimes use condoms and don't have sex like every week.
This thread made me think. I saw QuitingTomorows post on new orleans places that pay to have you tested and i wanted money. I thought about it and realized even I was nervous and unsure about getting tested.
What's a 'good girl'? And why would a good girl be unable to be HIV+ or pass it to you? Why would having less frequent sex protect you, when you don't know your partners' status?
Not being sarcastic here. Just pointing out that's part of the stigma, and it leads to a lot of false assumptions that lead to risky behavior. Good girls can have and enjoy lots of sex, good girls get exposed to HIV. So do good boys.
A person you fucked once could be pos, and a person you fucked every week could be neg. The only thing that matters in terms of getting HIV is whether you were exposed to HIV. You could have sex once every 10 years with someone who also had sex once every 10 years, and you could still be exposed.
I have no problem if someone makes informed choices to take some sexual risks. I just think it's really important to separate facts from "facts" (stigma and assumptions, usually rooted in sexism and/or homophobia).
For example I'm 100% single for the first time in my adult life and I'm contemplating whether I want to drop some of my previous safer sex habits now that I'm only responsible for myself, like using gloves and maybe also dental dams with casual partners. The HIV risk of those activities is extremely low, and the risk/reward ratio of other STIs (depending on things like age, the chances of us both being HSV1+ and/or one of us having had the Gardasil vax) is low enough that it might be worth it.
That is very different however than how I behaved 15-20 years ago, when there were almost no studies about anything other than PIV or PIAss sex, and I operated on the assumption that finger fucking and oral sex between women was totally safe...an assumption that was justified by the lack of data which ITSELF was motivated by the cultural idea that digital or oral sex (esp involving 2 vaginas...and btw trans people just didn't exist in those studies) wasn't "really sex" and therefore didn't need any studies done.
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Yea, i kno what your saying and I understand that all it takes is once. What I ment by that is either A:I kinda know there background or B:they are catholic school girls lol those are pretty um whats the word though.. lol so yea i can never know.
For example, I wouldnt fuck an escort without a condom even though i fucking hate condoms. I gotta try some of those LambSkin ones, i hear those feel like the real deal.
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Gloves?!?
Holy shit when it comes to that,I will either be celibate, or monagamous & thoroughly tested.
I'm drawing the line at condoms, which are bad enough..
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Yea, i kno what your saying and I understand that all it takes is once. What I ment by that is either A:I kinda know there background or B:they are catholic school girls lol those are pretty um whats the word though.. lol so yea i can never know.
For example, I wouldnt fuck an escort without a condom even though i fucking hate condoms. I gotta try some of those LambSkin ones, i hear those feel like the real deal.
No No No!!! Lambskin protect against pregnancy only....NOT AGAINTS STD's or AIDS!!!
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I'm gonna second that lambskin condoms don't protect against STD's like HIV. I think it's because the virus is able to pass between lambskin whereas it can't with latex.
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I'm not making fun of you at all Makita. I think it's great you're so responsible when it comes to safe sex. But I was surprised to hear about the dental dams and gloves. I've never known someone to use those. I've seen gloves used in fisting videos, but never in person (I've never fisted or been fisted).
Coming from an OCD standpoint though, I say more power to you. I'm usually freaked out after sex with fears of contamination. That's part of the reason why I've not had sex in a little over five years. There are other reasons though, including I have absolutely no sex drive currently. Years of opiate use have taken its toll. Subs greatly reduced my libido. And whatever was left has been killed by Paxil.
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I would like to add that the few Catholic school girls I knew were actually very promiscuous. And ALL of the sex workers I've known have practiced the safest sex of anyone I've ever met.