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Phenethylamines / Serdexmethylphenidate to treat ADHD and Stimulant Abuse Disorder
« Last post by Chip on December 31, 2023, 02:40:52 AM »
It's only Schedule 4 in the USA and may become the holy grail in treating Methamphetamine abuse.

It has a low abuse potential and metabolises into dexmethylphenidate (Focalin).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdexmethylphenidate

https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2021/01/27/2165069/16626/en/KemPharm-Receives-FDA-Clearance-to-Initiate-KP879-Clinical-Program-for-the-Treatment-of-Stimulant-Use-Disorder.html
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Empathogens and Entactogens / MDMA Supplements, Essential Vitamins and Neuroprotectants
« Last post by Chip on December 30, 2023, 01:41:36 PM »
Some of this applies to Methamphetamine users also.

https://www.usersnews.com.au/home/2019/12/18/supplements-guide
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General Discussion for Everybody / Re: The Junky's christmas-tradition.
« Last post by Chip on December 25, 2023, 10:09:39 AM »
Merry Christmas !
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Some related studies and tools of interest etc.

N-acetylcysteine-amide improves tissue oxidative stress, DNA damage, and proteins disappearance in methamphetamine toxicity more efficiently than N-acetyl-L-cysteine:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352007821000184#:~:text=Injection%20of%20NAC%20and%20NACA,than%20NAC%20in%20treated%20animals.

How reversible is Meth related brain damage ?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://commons.und.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1408%26context%3Dndlr&ved=2ahUKEwiPz_TI05uDAxVWQPUHHTptBIgQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Izx38l7MkFbYj00ZXaA31

NIDA Pursues Many Approaches to Reversing Methamphetamine’s Neurotoxic Effects:

https://www.ehd.org/health_meth_11.php

The effects of vitamin B12 on the brain damages caused by methamphetamine in mice:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5960763/

Selegiline:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7374985/#:~:text=Based%20on%20this%20finding%2C%20it,activation)(77%2C%2078).

MDMA oriented article should help with Meth too:

https://www.usersnews.com.au/home/2019/12/18/supplements-guide

Baicalein reverse the methamphetamin-induced striatal dopaminergic neurotoxicity in mice
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GABAergics / The White Pipe Keeps Burning - Quaaludes/Mandrax Recently
« Last post by Chip on December 13, 2023, 12:28:37 AM »
The drug that caused the formation of the DEA has all but been eradicated globally except for one country. This is how it was in 2021 for MethaqualoneWiki - a very pleasurable drug that I know from experience.

https://issafrica.org/iss-today/the-white-pipe-keeps-burning
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Who said that pot was a bad thing ?

Meth users who use Cannabis have been making the right choice by mixing the two drugs. Personally, I have found much synergy in that combo and high doses of THC after low doses of Meth can help induce sleep.

anyhow, here is the supporting paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4028295/

Here is another paper on using THC/CBD for Meth effect attenuation:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00952990.2022.2098758

My friend in the US tells me that the product below is VERY good !

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Here is the best assumption I can make from all the research I have done for humans as most of the data is from studies on rodents and even primates.

Pure Dexmethamphetamine taken IV as in the above mentioned models:

PRN low doses (well under 0.5 mg/kg) can be surprisingly and notably beneficial, as you will see in the link below this editorial.

Daily doses of up to 0.5 mg/kg are considered safe but chronic regular daily doses of 1.0 mg/kg may well eventually cause toxicity over time.

Doses above 2.0 mg/kg are probably somewhat toxic at any frequency.

Street Meth may contain a myriad of cuts and dangerous additives or impurities as well as being racemic (a variable ratio of the l-meth and d-meth stereo-isomers) so it's much harder to predict it's true pure weight, safety profile and psychostimulatory effects. Some contaminants may stay in your tissue forever so it's really smart to know your source as well as possible.

Washing your product in pure Acetone can help but some cuts need isotropyl alcohol and who knows what else ?!

* the FDA recommends doses from 5 mg up to 25 mg of Desoxyn (oral - a lower bioavailability of approx. 70% - pharmaceutical Meth to treat severe obesity / eating disorder and severe ADHD). Doses up to 40 mg are possible though but most doses would be not much at all, all things considered.

Note: one paper states that the MAXIMUM THERAPEUTIC dose of both d-amph and d-meth is 60 mg. This can be found in:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6135110/#:~:text=The%20net%20result%20of%20the,striatum%2C%20which%20results%20in%20excitotoxicity.

In advanced cases the nerve terminal damage can be permanent leading to not only a trashed reward (no pleasure when sober) system and also a faulty impulsivity control system -  just to make it near impossible to stop - eventually causing even Parkinson's disease and Dementia.

Of couse, NEVER FORGET that there is also the possibility of death from organ failure too !

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The duality:

* the good

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21635908/

* the bad

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7457172/

* the best

Protective Effect of Low Dose of Methamphetamine on The Amount of Extracellular Glutamine in Primary Fetal Human Astrocytes Induced by Amyloid Beta:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35451579/

Traumatic Brain Injury and stroke benefits:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278584615000469
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Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics / The story of antipsychotics: Past and present
« Last post by Chip on December 11, 2023, 03:43:00 AM »
Promethazine (OTC here in Aus) has a lot to answer for ...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802385/

Funny old advert:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thorazine_advert.jpg
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Kapps Opiod Receptor Antagonists are associated with helping mitigate addiction.

THere is much discussion on how Bupe is being prescribed in the US to treat Methamphetamine addiction.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26468683/
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