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Title: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 06, 2016, 02:17:39 AM
So I just ordered a hundred of these from the UK, since they seem way easier than the luer lock procedure.  The ultimate idea, I guess, would be to use them for any street dope (likely tar) if I started up again, but the short-term likelihood is using them for shooting tiny doses of Suboxone pills (and probably experimenting with IV Nucynta [tapentadol] pills, too.)

I gather they aren't *quite* as ideal as the protracted wheel-filter luer lock approach, but an order of magnitude better than just filtering out binders with cotton or cigarette filters, plus they attach to any basic insulin syringe.

Anybody have experience with them, positive or negative?  For shooting dope, but especially how effective they are at clearing the massive amount of crummy binders in pills.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: neighbor on June 06, 2016, 04:51:23 AM
These are fantastic and I cant recommend them enough.

Only issue I ever had was with pills with LOTS of filler, like dilaudid. A big dilly shot usually required 2 filters, but the shot always crystal clear and the filter absolutely caked with binder. And definitely recommended for tar.

Once you see the shit it collects on the filter, and how cottons never look that dirty, you won't want to go back to using just cottons.

But then Im pretty sure I said all this to you already. The etizolam in me says probably.

edit link: http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_sterifilt_universal.php
great site, I used to get my sharps and water for injection from there. they also sell IV kits and special foil for smoking. good people.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: nick on June 06, 2016, 03:11:19 PM
For all intents and purposes they're just as good as wheel filters. So,I too recommend them and exchange supplies-one of the few businesses that pay more than lip service to users and harm reduction.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 06, 2016, 05:56:38 PM
Excellent.  I can't wait to receive my order; I got it from the Exchange Supplies company that's mentioned, and they do seem to do a good job with HR products. 

I really wish the NX around here -- which is privately-run and very progressive, to the point of giving out meth pipes and crack pipe kits, and making syringe deliveries to the more suburban places -- would invest in some of these.  The only heroin here is tar, so full of impurities by nature, yet they only distribute the dinky cotton filters that do little -- I was using clean cigarette filters (small ones from a bag for roll-your-own), since I read something saying they actually did the best versus Q-Tips, etc.

I'll probably start with a little bit of Sub (<1mg) broken off from an 8mg pill and then maybe dissolved a liquid solution of Suboxone dissolved in water, so I can hopefully taper lower than anything that could be broken off solid.  So plenty of filler, but smallish amounts.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: theSWPK on June 07, 2016, 01:48:18 AM
Seeing as I cannot afford proper filters, I prefer to use cigarette cellulose as to reduce incidents of the feared and reviled cotton fever (of which I suffer tonight). Ive a bad habit of reusing the same coffee mug of water to prep my shot all day... and sometimes the next.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 07, 2016, 02:52:33 AM
A 100-pack of these Sterifilts, no questions asked, aren't extremely expensive, even including shipping to the US, and definitely cheaper than actual wheel filters and luer lock syringes. 

Yeah, if you're just scraping by, they're probably unaffordable.  But you're shooting pills almost exclusively on a daily basis, which is way more harmful than even the dirtiest tar/coke/meth, and the binders left over are doing untold damage to your lungs, eyes, etc.  So it's got to be a worthwhile investment at some point.

EDIT:  I just did a price check.  For an order of 100, including shipping to the US (which doubles the price) they still cost less than $0.50 each.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Chip on June 07, 2016, 03:26:32 AM
I love threads like this - pure HR all the way 8)
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: theSWPK on June 07, 2016, 05:39:11 AM
A few years back I had tried to find a vendor for the sterifilt and stericup and contacted a few sites but all were for UK it seemed. Cool to know there's a reliable vendor that ships to the US.

I can barely afford to stay well lately. Dope, gas, and smokes. Can't afford to put $10 in my account to order filters :/
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Z on June 07, 2016, 08:55:12 AM
I got some of these in a test from my nx a couple years back.  Good stuff, but they clog on things with loads of filler like generic dilaudid or morphine.  There always seems to be that last bit of moistness in the filter, and you can't wash them.  Compromises I guess.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: nick on June 07, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
To be clear,Exchange supplies will ship anywhere-except Japan,North Korea etc. Europe,North America,Australia,New Zealand no problem.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: neighbor on June 07, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
Seeing as I cannot afford proper filters, I prefer to use cigarette cellulose as to reduce incidents of the feared and reviled cotton fever (of which I suffer tonight). Ive a bad habit of reusing the same coffee mug of water to prep my shot all day... and sometimes the next.

Im no dentist but I believe your choice to use a cigarette to filter your dope (over standard cotton or any other filter) will have a negligible effect reducing the likelihood of cotton fever, and that the same coffee mug of water sitting out you mentioned along with whatever other bad practices you have (if any) are going to be the main things to look out for

wow Im baked. please excuse and ignore the painfully overwritten verbose bullshit. and thats after a bunch of edits. you should have seen the crap I deleted. the original version had 'accoutrements'  and 'erudite'.
the weed is good. just realized I could have just rewritten it and fucked off with this explanation.
the weed is really good.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: puppy on June 07, 2016, 11:37:11 PM
Lol @neighbor .....I'm no dentist!!! ;)
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 08, 2016, 01:23:43 AM
@Z  Yeah, whether or not I resist the temptation to try it out myself, I was going to run some by the NX (which I'd described above as very progressive) to see if they'd heard of them, whether they'd consider buying them (since I think there's a discount at 1000 and possibly a separate price for HR institutions), but either way just try giving them a couple dozen to test out themselves (since some active users work there) or to give out to some regulars and see how they go over.

I have a feeling that anything beyond clean cotton for use as a filter is pretty much unknown in the US, much more so than it seems to be in Britain, at least.

I still only have a vague idea of the mechanics of how these work, but I imagine it's pretty simple once you see them.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 08, 2016, 01:40:36 AM
And yeah, @theSWPK there may be some aspects of cotton fever that are unique to cotton (one particular bacteria associated with cotton in particular).  But I think cotton fever is often basically just a dramatic bacterial infection that comes on so suddenly because the bacteria are introduced straight into the blood stream.

If that's the case, you could get something like cotton fever as a result of any number of unsterile aspects to shooting up.  But if you used to use cottons and get cotton fever often, but haven't since switching to cigarette filters, that would be interesting to hear.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: theSWPK on June 08, 2016, 01:50:09 AM
And yeah, @theSWPK there may be some aspects of cotton fever that are unique to cotton (one particular bacteria associated with cotton in particular).  But I think cotton fever is often basically just a dramatic bacterial infection that comes on so suddenly because the bacteria are introduced straight into the blood stream.

If that's the case, you could get something like cotton fever as a result of any number of unsterile aspects to shooting up.  But if you used to use cottons and get cotton fever often, but haven't since switching to cigarette filters, that would be interesting to hear.

Oh I totally agree. I've experienced the fever in complete absence of cotton, the most likely culprit was water. But the way I see it, cotton is just an additional vector, the removal of which should, and has IME reduced instances of cfever.

I also have found that effects can vary by region. The only time I've experienced a "dirty hit" (immediate onset fever/chills) was in the west NV CA. Whereas on the Gulf coast, having lived in MS and LA it's always taken at the very least 1 hour to take effect. 1 to 3 hours, usually about 1hr 45min. This could be explained by differences in how heroin is handled, BUT I'm talking about pills! Anyone else?
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on June 08, 2016, 02:11:25 AM
Hardness of the water, maybe?
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: theSWPK on June 08, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Hardness of the water, maybe?

No discernable difference. Used bottled water 3/4 of the time there. Maybe it's local bacteria at injection site that varies by region?

I hate how bad it is when I'm talking to regular people, I want to talk about drug topics.
"So, do you often shake uncontrollably after injecting water from other parts of the country?"
"What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Z on June 08, 2016, 04:37:47 PM
You can use 0.2um micron filters to get rid of everything supposedly.  I've heard that this includes the bacteria that causes cotton fever.

It could be anything.  Dirty spoon, touching the pill with fingers, some guy put it in his man purse, water that has been sitting out and contaminated with something.

I think they call it cotton fever because it tends to happen with cotton washes.  When you don't dry them quickly they grow bacteria like a biologist.  I had a batch of filters once that was still damp two weeks later.  I was sick as hell though and decided cotton fever was worth it for getting off dope sick.  Two hours wrapped in a blanket with my teeth chattering later and I wasn't so sure.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Zoops on June 08, 2016, 07:49:17 PM
LOL at "I'm no dentist" @neighbor


That exchangesupplies.com site is pretty sweet. I'm gonna buy some of  those 2ml luer-lock syringes and some nice needles.
The crack pipe they sell is SUPER-- NICE. Made of really thick glass. I think I'll buy one as a gift for someone I know.
"Makes a great stocking stuffer."
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: theSWPK on June 08, 2016, 08:10:38 PM
"May facilitate the stealing of stockings." Lol
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Roman Totale on July 16, 2016, 06:14:05 AM
Well, those 100 filters went by in a jif... :\  Despite my shooting partner's initial skepticism, they were great with the tar.  Got a little gummed up when I tried to produce a Suboxone-hydroxyzine combo ("Ts and Blues" for the Millenials, anyone?).

Some more are on the way so I can indulge in the dubious pleasures of shooting Suboxone and Ambien a little more safely... but I also ordered a few of those What-Man? 0.2nm micron filters (for a pretty penny!) since I've got a Luer-Loktm tip syringe lying around and may as well make my "Suboxyzine" as clean as possible.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Z on July 16, 2016, 06:37:48 AM
Whatman wheel filters are serious business.  0.2 um leaves the solution essentially sterile.  I used them when I was brewing some steroids to sell a few years back.

Now that was good money.  $50 for 100g, and sold for $60 for 5 grams in a vial.  God bless China again.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: bignasty on October 04, 2018, 10:03:37 PM
Well, those 100 filters went by in a jif... :\  Despite my shooting partner's initial skepticism, they were great with the tar.  Got a little gummed up when I tried to produce a Suboxone-hydroxyzine combo ("Ts and Blues" for the Millenials, anyone?).

Some more are on the way so I can indulge in the dubious pleasures of shooting Suboxone and Ambien a little more safely... but I also ordered a few of those What-Man? 0.2nm micron filters (for a pretty penny!) since I've got a Luer-Loktm tip syringe lying around and may as well make my "Suboxyzine" as clean as possible.
Does hydroxyzine really cause a rush like some people say? I've got a bunch of vistoril AKA hydroxyzine laying around that they gave me for anxiety in rehab and a script with a few refills after rehab. I could add 25-50mg's to a shot of dope if it'll potentiate it at all.

I also have ambien to IV but never done it before. Can I get 10mgs in a 1ml insulin rig or do I need a 3ml (or larger) barrel? I really don't want to IV anything that requires a 3ml barrel. Those are steroid syringes/needles/barrels in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Chip on October 05, 2018, 12:55:28 AM
the last time that i shot Zolpidem, I remember it looked as white as milk and i used a 5 ml barrel.

i won't go into specifics but apparently i ended up doing the whole box, emptying the contents of all my drawers on the bed and taking my MDMA stash.

i had completely blacked out and remember a paramedic stopping me from trying to go for a drive by making me look at myself in the mirror.

then i realised that the cops were in the garden.

in fact, a bunch of paramedics and police were all over my property !

i had also bled out all over the shirt that i was wearing !

i literally had lost my mind. I fucked up big time but i didn't get busted as i had committed no crime and taken all my drugs except a bag of pot that i had placed in the kitchen.

soon after, i passed out again. when i woke up, my partner wasn't talking to me so i rang both the local Ambulance and Police stations to find out wtf i had done to have them deploy so many resources to my place.

they absolutely refused to tell me despite mkaking numerous calls but apparently i had gone 'nuts' and my partner had called for help.

then there was the time i came to after another Ambien shooting session and i partially wearing my partner's dress with stupid pictures on my camera.

by all means, shoot some Ambien but do so in a controlled environment, preferrably STRAPPED DOWN so you can't move.

i initially shot about 50 mg but i must've kept going.

seriously, don't fuck with Zolpidem Tartrate in high doses without a sitter !
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: bignasty on October 05, 2018, 01:20:47 AM
the last time that i shot Zolpidem, I remember it looked as white as milk and i used a 5 ml barrel.

i initially shot about 50 mg but i must've kept going.
So would 10mg's go into 1ml or would I need a bigger barrel rig?
Title: Re: Sterifilt
Post by: Chip on October 05, 2018, 02:55:36 AM
barrels ... before i answer your question, let me tell you how deep i went -- as far as using a 60 ml. barrel and i remember making my own catheters with butterfly tubing that i extended using drawing up "needles" to join them.

then i would load it up with 330 mg of diluted Methadone and amphetamine.

then to push the plunger, i would place it upside down on the floor and use my feet to push the barrel down on the plunger ! LOL - Chip's idea of the uber IV freak 😊.

Doing this landed me in hospital (you should see my medical records because i was a "regular" there ... fuck that !

OK, 10 mg won't do shit so either get a bigger barrel and do max 50 mg.

This will let you explore the drug's psychoactive properties which are hallucinogenic BUT you have to be careful as if you go past that point, your mind will go to sleep except the "bit" that causes somnambulism (sleepwalking) or, as in my case, sleep-injecting 😷.

please visit https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Zolpidem (https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Zolpidem) to see the dosing matrix.

ALWAYS visit that website to explore the dose/effect spectrum.

and visit Tripsit - links are on the home page.
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