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Core Topics => Substance Usage, Management, User Experiences etc. => Topic started by: Fleas Bass on September 02, 2016, 12:41:11 AM
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I picked up the best blow Ive personally ever seen.
I tried a very small shot, zero effect. I tried a second shot at double the dose, had sharpened vision and a high heart rate but no euphoria and zero rush.
I then again doubled the dose from shot #2. Jittery, high heart rate, but not a fucking hint of a rush.
What gives? This stuff is total fish scale and was all one chunk when I got it. I was super disappointed to have no rush, I used 15 units of water for each shot and didnt miss a drop.
Also i have no tolerance to blow at all. When cheeked this stuff made me drool like I had a lidocaine injection, so I dont think its bunk.
Do I need to try a much larger dose? Any input is values, thanks guys
-Bass
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No rusheans you're missing or its bad coke. I hate to say it, but shiny coke could be sprayed with hairspray and you can re rock coke easily too.
Jitters and energy could be from any number of things like caffeine or pseudo/ephedrine. Numbing can be enhanced with benzocaine and all the other Caine's.
No rush with no miss is a sure sign that your coke isnt high quality in my experience. Sorry man.
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Maybe some kind of research chemical stimulant being passed as coke??
Any coke ive gotten always felt the same ( to a more or lesser extent depending on quality) not like street dope, where the rush feels different on different kinds. I dont have a huge amount of coke experience as dope was my doc, but definitely did enough coke shots over the past ten years to know enough.
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The fish scale look is technically a cut in and of itself anyway
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And what cut would that technically be?
Pure coke is pearlescant, has a strong odor, and gathers moisture easily ie constantly rechopping lines
The actual 'soap rainbow' look im unsure of, as i dont know if its actually always present, or due to looking at the pearlyness a certain way. However if it isnt inherent, id surmise its more of a production process issue than a 'cut'
Either way ive always been able to tell by smell, and i dont mean just snorting it. I dont have a massive amount of experience with coke, but even very cut shit the smell is undeniable. If its strong, its good. If theres only a hint in there, its cut. If you dont smell coke, theres no coke.
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the best coke i had was yellow, looked like H and smelled of petrol.
i think it was fantastic but i was expecting H and NOT Cocaine :(
it really upset me but the point is that you can never go on looks alone in this game. Never.
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I judged the book by its cover, learned a thing or two from this thread and the last few days.
I did subsequently get different product with a decent rush. However the side effects (see lack of purity) are not nearly worth it for me. Havent been able to eat squat and have been nauseous for days, and I HATE losing weight.
Also had some pretty scary symptoms such as visible abdominal pulse and tingling hands, neither of which are good news.
Stims were never my cup of tea.
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Stims were never my cup of tea.
crystal by far is more appealing to me, I do not like Cocaine, btw ... HOWEVER the non-financial price of opiates is too high and the pleasure is finite. i've trashed my long-term tolerance on them forever.
with stims, you have to take time out to enjoy them BUT they both can suck if you overdo it ... stims or opi's. shit, i use both still.
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There's nothing on earth (to me yet) that compares with a good coke shot. Big bummer to have disappointing gear. I've had yellow coke that was great, pink stuff that smelled like bubblegum that was among the been the best I've had & lots of "fish scale" that was anything from bunk to great. I remember seeing this shit in head shops in the 80's that was meant to be used as a cut that looked like fishscale & (i think) even produced numbness. never had a reason to buy any but because of that I've never put much weight on the fish scale look.
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The worst thing like that I have seen was crack made from oragel instead of cocaine. It looked virtually identical, and if it wasn't for the slight taste of cherry flavour and no effect at all you would have trouble telling the differfence.
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any regular crystal meth user will tell you that to use cocaine on top of meth is simply unpleasant.
I don't know why this is but it's all side-effect with no rush/invincible feeling.
However, with no meth in one's system for a while then cocaine would get it's magic back.
i thought they might complement each other but sadly, that is not the case.
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To me, coke is by far the best stim, maybe save for treats like pure crystal MDMA
Imo, the buzz/rush is more euphoric and idk, just pure good feeling.
Meth and amps, even pure tablets, just have a dirty manmade feeling. My biggest problem with them though, is that the high for me lasts maybe an hour or two longer than coke, and then i just spend the other 10 hours feeling jittery side effects whereas on coke i would have come down already and can just redose and get just as high
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that's odd, i feel wonderful for many hours on clean, potent crystal BUT i love the fact that you can still go to sleep when you want after a coke session.
however, coke only last for about 20 minutes for me and then i'm down as down can be.
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Meth and amps, even pure tablets, just have a dirty manmade feeling. My biggest problem with them though, is that the high for me lasts maybe an hour or two longer than coke, and then i just spend the other 10 hours feeling jittery side effects whereas on coke i would have come down already and can just redose and get just as high
i never understand when ppl say this. "dirty manmade feeling" ive heard that used to describe drugs many many times (although normally not in that context, normally more in the 'i dont do MANMADE drugs, only stuff that comes from the earth and isnt manmade!') but pretty much all drugs are manmade. coke is man made. sure it exists in the coca plant but it needs chemical extraction/refining/processing. i guess weed and shrooms arent completely man-made, but they're genetics (weed, prolly not most shrrooms) have been exploited by man for so long it may as well be manmade.
ive tried shooting crack 3 times in the last year or so and every single fucking time its been a total waste. the shit im getting is FAR from the best quality, but its decent enough i guess. but i throw a dub in a spoon, throw in 60 units of white vinegar (5% acetic acid, which ive read is what people use) and i get either nothing at all or i get a slight speedy high without any real rush (nothing like shooting coke) wtf is the deal with that? am i just getting rock that is THAT shitty quality? the last time i tried was last night and i threw a very large dub in the spoon, big enougjh that i could have gotten 4 good hits off a stem, used 70 units of white vinegar and i got a bit of a speedy high, got a little naseuos, but i didnt get a rush like i do when i shoot powder C.
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It may be really crappy rock. I've always used lemon juice or those crystal light packets with a little water. It should sizzle when breaking down. I've had some good rock that shot really good,just do not miss with lemon juice or it will swell for about a week.
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@Tainted - I've shot rock that were just as good as powder. I assume you keep adding vinegar until it stops foaming? Also - I've heard that vinegar isn't great to iv (can contain bacteria), safer than lemon juice but not as safe as citric acid (viatamin c), that's what i always use(d).
Did you smoke any to compare effects?
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@Tainted - I've shot rock that were just as good as powder. I assume you keep adding vinegar until it stops foaming? Also - I've heard that vinegar isn't great to iv (can contain bacteria), safer than lemon juice but not as safe as citric acid (viatamin c), that's what i always use(d).
Did you smoke any to compare effects?
yeah i had bought a few dubs so i smoked a bunch and like i said it was mediocre, it wasn't great but wasn't terrible.
i just added 70 units, it fizzed a little bit (my previous attempts i dont recall it fizzing at all)
and i know vinegar is terrible to IV, but ive heard lemon juice is WAY WAY WAY worse. i got no clue where to get citric acid from. the first time i ever tried shooting rock, i bought vitamin C supplements, crushed them up in a spoon, poured water on it, used a cotton and sucked it up, then used that water to melt down the rock. didnt work AT ALL for me, but my gf at the time said it worked for her. only time i ever tried it that way. i got no clue where to get absorbic acid or whatever is in vtamin C
i know the needle exchanges in some countries hand it out, but i live in FL, we dont even got needle exchanges
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Ive heard the extraction/refinement process arguement from those shroomers and potheads al naturale type people for coke and smack. Kind of arrogant people, usually bitch about my cigs too.
Easy answer is well the way i feel about meth is subjective.
But, in my opinion no amount of processing changes whether the starting molecule came from a plant, or didnt.
And call me crazy, but i just trust the ones that started with a plant. Well, not trust so much as just i like em better.
I like them to the point that ive thrown tons of money at them and spend every waking second on at least 2 of them, caffeine and nicotine, so yeah, in that sense the natural ones are probably worse for me anyway. I can certainly enjoy some meth with a girl or something and put it down. Heroin, a cigarette, even a damn cup of coffee; if my systems been used to it, things wont be pretty when i dont have it.
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meth. comes from a plant too; Ephedrine can be extracted from the Ma Huang plant and then by reduction of an OH group to meth.
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I knew someone would bring up ephedrine. Its a far cry from meth, and really not even part of the process on most street level meth anymore.
Isolating morphine, adding a couple acetyl groups, refining coke straight from the leaves. Just a bit closer to the source in my opinion.
But also, like i said, meth dont feel right to me, so either way lol, there ya go
Also, maybe im biased because, at least in my area, people who use meth as opposed to literally any other drug are all really fuckin weird, narcissistic, psychotic, self absorbed lunatics. Idk why, but judging on how it even affects my behavior in ways i dont want it to, i guess it seems that people are choosing to continue using something that really changes them in strange ways. I try to avoid things that change me like that. But maybe its just not my cup of tea, as i know plenty of drugs have great effect on my behavior
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Give me an opiate using person over a tweaker any day.
Ephedrine or psuedo-Ephedrine is how Meth is made these days.
I use Meth to build this site otherwise nothing would get done.
Not all Meth users are crazy but many aresad excuses for human beings.
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Lemon lime Kool aid is essentially 99℅ pure citric acid with a preservative or two. The one that you add sugar to of course.
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That came out sideways anyway chip, i was high and have had a chip on my shoulder about meth since my ex.
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Lemon lime Kool aid is essentially 99℅ pure citric acid with a preservative or two. The one that you add sugar to of course.
Indeed. If you're going to be shooting crack in the first place, atleast do it right with some koolaid and a newport for a filter.
5% vinegar solution could work but wont be as effective as koolaid packets, IMLE
serious about the koolaid, joking about the newports. Drink the koolaid and try shooting koolaid with your crack if you want the crack junky merit badge. this is starting to sound familiar....
TL;DR your vinegar solution was off and was just adding more danger to an already dangerous situation. just smoke it man.
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That came out sideways anyway chip, i was high and have had a chip on my shoulder about meth since my ex.
nah, you're cool. meth is very dangerous and potent drug that compromises too many people.
it gives idiots the energy to be even bigger idiots and for much longer.
there are very few nice people that use meth that i like, i tend to avoid them and find that the opiate set are so much cooler - with exceptions in both cases, naturally.
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Can you guys/gals in the States not get Citric Acid in the supermarket? Over here its near the baking soda and other baking ingredients. Usually in a wee plastic container.
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Ive always heard that vinegar can cause some weird fungal infection and lemon juice is much the same. That vit c powder is the way to go. Idk ive done desperate things for dope but ive never needed to shoot crack. Like smoking it just the way it is.
And to be honest, after having some junk in my veins after 7 or 8 months, my comments about drugs changing me were premature. I think im only normal on opiates after some tolerance has built, i can be quite manic getting high for the first time in awhile. As much as i bitch about alcohol, at least its debilitating enough to keep me from too stupid of behaviors
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I have used vinegar on occasion to shoot rocks with and its always worked fine. No issues with infections or anything at all.
Btw, I love shooting coke. I am honestly starting to prefer shooting coke more than dope. Lately I will do a speedball when I first pick up and then shoot coke. Once I start to come down I will shoot the rest of my dope.
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Dont get me wrong i love shooting coke. Idk, slamming coke vs smoking crack is like the one comparison i cant decide which i like better, so whatever form it comes in is how ill use it. However i will say, id seek out a pipe if i have crack and no equipment, id probably just snort it if i have coke and no rigs. I really like all 3 ways of doing it. And ill pretty much be needing some depressant in 20 minutes anyway
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Snorting coke is a complete waste. It feels like the comedown from IV, but that is the best you're going to get out of it.
I don't touch the stuff anymore except for the odd quarter gram once a year. It's too easy for me to go overboard on it and go full junky.
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I dont feel that way, but ive never amassed that great of a tolerance. Id say what i like most about it would be the smell/feel/action of snorting it. Are there ways to get higher sure, but i sort of enjoy the ritual of the snort