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Title: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 02, 2016, 11:46:31 PM
s most of you know, last Spring I went down to Ecuador doe 2 months (May and June), I chose Ecuador for several reasons; the most significant was their recently rewritten constitution that decriminalized ALL drugs, recognized the rights of both animals AND the Earth itself, kicked out the US military, upheld a lawsuit oaqistf over $9Billion against Chevron and Texaco on behalf of the Indigiones peoples and  nature and more,

Basically the rejected "neo-liberlist" policies that are destroying the world purely for unlimited economic growth.

All that is admirable but it was the several cups of coco tea and a few grams of powder every day that made it an adventure to remember.


Now, its Spring again, end of Summer below the Equator. I'm thinking of going back to Ecuador but the days most drugs are decrimialized in South America and parts of Europe so I don't havee to go there to indulge in that. I'm thinking now of a trip back to Ecuador then on to Peru to hike up Machu Pichu, see some "anceint Alins" architecture, surf the Pacific, drink ayuasca/yage and see god, take a boat down the Amazon and toss hamburger to piraƱas.

There's more world out there that you can possibly see. The best yu can do is visit a fraction of it. When I was college-age I though I had forever to explore the world. Now that I'm probably past the halfway mark, I think its time to start geting a move on and explore.

Personally, I'm not too interests in seing the well-know, often visited tourit spots. I want to see the weird shit, the places they don't tell you about in high school but leave a lasting sense of awe and impression when you do see them.

One thing is for sure, wherever I go, recreational drugs will be legal and cheap. I paid the "gringo price" of $20/gram, thats less than a good hotel room.

So soes anyone else want to come and wander beow the equator, drink ayahuasca andcoca tea and do big , fat fresh lines and not mea being arrested for a split second?
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DiCaprio on May 03, 2016, 01:00:04 AM
Lol you had me picturing you on top of some awesome mountain with the wind blowing at your hair while feeling like a million bucks. Im really happy you get to travel the world like that. Ive been to Europe and Mexico and theres few things better than wandering different parts of the world looking for an adventure. I am also like you, I wouldnt go to see the major attractions but rather find the lesser known spots. Wandering through historical museums or observing buildings that are centuries old with nothing on your mind but joy... Good luck to you and I hope you find some good adventures. Let us know how it went.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DreamerOnTheRun on May 03, 2016, 01:51:41 AM
Can't you get Xanax without a script "OTC"? LOL that'd sell me, wish I had the ability to go.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 03, 2016, 08:28:18 AM
Can't you get Xanax without a script "OTC"? LOL that'd sell me, wish I had the ability to go.

Not in the US I'm not even that crazy about anax. It just balances out the coke high well.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Z on May 03, 2016, 10:21:18 AM
anax.


Is that some rectal suppository formulation of Xanax? 


Just playing, but not playing around when I say that I would love to go spend a few months in South America.  Personally I would rent a room in a smallish city that is still sizable enough to have all of the "amenities" that a growing boy like me requires.  Then I would go around and do local trips to smaller towns in various places and may be even other countries.  Make some connections, take some chances, have some seriously fun risky behaviour that breaks the moulds that we fall into as affluent Northern white men.  Personally I would be taking Spanish classes, because just speaking the same language takes you from "white guy with money that I can exploit" to "Nice guy with money who is fun to hang out with.  I might rip him off, but it is more fun to just party with him because he's nice, generous, and funny." 


Fitting into category 2 opens up lots of doors in my experience in various countries and different cultures.  Language is the biggest door opener and equalizer ever.  Speaking someone's language puts you on an equal level instead of you forcing them to accomodate you.  Just having people feel like you are meeting them partway makes such a big difference in the way you're percvieved and treated.


Have fun with it man.  Are you going back to the same country?  Have you kept in touch with people that you met down there?


How's this for a whacky fun as hell idea?  Move to a foreign country with cheap easy access to drugs, and sell them online through onion sites and email lists.  Set up some drop shipping deals with local distributors in the us (for example) and pass on the markup to them as profit.  Take over the world and have lots of drugs.


Buy a missle on the black market, and hold the world ransom for ... one meeeelion dollars.     
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Taytoechip on May 03, 2016, 10:54:52 AM
whenever i consider the thought of exploring some far off land i just watch an episode or two of locked up abroad, then go back to playing my xbox
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DiCaprio on May 03, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
@Taytoechip That show is super legit. Can you imagine walking into an airport knowing you got pounds of coke strapped to you? And then realizing if you get caught its fucking over. I always wondered if theres some guy out there that has done like 60 runs and never got caught. It takes some serious stones to do that shit...
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Taytoechip on May 03, 2016, 04:26:39 PM
@Taytoechip That show is super legit. Can you imagine walking into an airport knowing you got pounds of coke strapped to you? And then realizing if you get caught its fucking over. I always wondered if theres some guy out there that has done like 60 runs and never got caught. It takes some serious stones to do that shit...

yeah dude they always get all cocky and shit, then bam, butt fucked by a bamboo stick.

To elaborate on my post a bit more, I just dont see myself being able to just "walk away" after a month or 2 long binge on the finest of fine these places offer for such reasonable prices. I'd be the dude in the bathroom of the airport trying to cram an entire key of Lois Lane up the old bhole
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DiCaprio on May 03, 2016, 05:27:27 PM
@Taytoechip LMAO
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Der Alte Krieger on May 10, 2016, 02:08:51 PM
@Taytoechip  Can you imagine walking into an airport knowing you got pounds of coke strapped to you?

http://sdccblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/PAM_Replica.jpg

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coke-archer-cast.gif

The body cast is not a good idea
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Anti-hero on May 12, 2016, 06:38:28 AM
Was gonna go with ya
But that zilka virus
Has me fucked up
Don't wanna take the chance
NY immune system is to fucked up
But do keep us posted
I am really fearful of going with you
But your posts were great
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 12, 2016, 07:02:39 AM
Thanks for the replies. I didn't even know they existed until just now.

Lst year I went to Ecuador for 2 moths. There ll drugs have been decriminalized and you can have up to 2 grems of coke n you and you will not be arrested. I boguht alprazolam (Xanax) OTC all th time for about 50c a mg. Nothing bad happened and I spak passableSpanish which heped .

This year I am planning on heading to Colombia for about 6 weeks. From what I have read posession of up to a gram of coke is decriminalized but this is recent and Colombia has a reputatin for coke so consequently many tourists get set up to be robbed or busted so they have to ay a bribe to go free. I figure I will do what I did in Ecuador and casually ask a hotel staff person "Is it ttrue that coacaine is legal here?" in my shity Spanish. With luck one of the waiters or busboys or someone at the hotel will be happy to drop off a gram or two at your rooom especially if you tip them a few dollars. I was spending $20g 2+ g's a day in Ecuador and it was almost always high quality with hardly any of the speedy paranoia I'd get with coke up in the US.

From what I have heard the many opiods we have here are almost non-existant there and the H they produce is for export.

If I can make a reliable, quality. inexpensive coke connection and can add some benzos to balance it out I'll be just fine. Th biggest hassle is getting my insurance to "let" me have a 2 month supply of buprenorphine. They are totally fine with prividing 30 days worth 2 times in 60 days but not 1 time in 60 days even though my consumption works out exactly the same.

Oh, and coca tea is generally available throughout the Andes and although it doesn't really get you high, the shit is GREAT. You can get by on 2 or 3 cups a dy and not eat much and still have plenty of energy and no altitude sickness.I was over 20 pounds lener and in better shape after my trip last year because I lived on the tea and coke, walked everywhere and didn't eat American-style fatty/sugary foods at all. I'm conviced Americans are fat notonly because they re lazy nd overeat but also because our food has so many things like bovine growth hormone and antibiotics that we are fattening ourelves up like we fatten our cattle.

So the plan is to buy a round trip ticket to Cartagena which is on the Caribbean, stay there for a couple of weks and find out other spots that are worth visiting  (it's hard to tell from guidebooks because they try to make every little village sound "magical." Inside Colombia flying is the best way to get around beause the roads and busses are slow and unsafe.

I keep telling myself i HAVE TO get to Machu Picchu but y concern is I'll get there and be one of 10,000 Gringos with backpacks staring at 10,000 Gringos looking at old ruins.

And, as much as I like adveturous travel I wish I knew someone to bring along who shares my tastes in pharmaceuticals but finding others who do and have the time and money to go is difficult.

With the election going on here and the ever-increasing police state BS in the US I go on these trips hoping I can find a place I like and a way to support myself and I'd stay, at least most of the year.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Griffin on May 12, 2016, 05:57:01 PM
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/why-did-ecuador-toughen-up-drug-laws

I saw this when i was looking into ecuadors drug policies that sucks that they are trying to ruin a good thing hopefully it isn't enforced.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 30, 2016, 12:30:14 AM
I am bumbing this thread in an attempt to get some more infor as my departure date isn ow close. I leave on June 10 for Medelling (yes, THAT Medellin) and am scheduled to fl y back on July19th.  ALthough I lan to spend a good block of time in Medellin to start, if I can, I will make side tris to Cali, Cartagena, Santa Marta and possibly Peru.

From what I understand Colombian people are the absolute most friendly and elecoming peole in Latin America. The Anthony Bourdain food trade show there made the food look amazing. The women are gorgeeous and take great care to look their best at all times. And... currently, carrying up to 1 gram of cocain is not a ceimw nd I suspect making a connection isnt hard becasue there are many, many US expats living there. Although many drugs are available over the counter and many like Xanax, while technically are not, in practice you get them if you ask nicely and play pay a small "gringo tax," ANd things like steroids and Viagra are sold completely OTC and all this makes for some pretty wild parties that include lots of sex.


By bumping this I am hoping that anyone who has any real, hopefully recent information can share it with me, athugh there is a lot f intense and YouTube informtion for staying in Colombia as a gringo.

One thing I have learned on line though is scary as shit. The plant that produces scopolamine (called "Devil's Breath) grows everywhere and getting the frugs frm the plants is as easy as collecting seds from followers. For those who don't know, scopalamine is the date rape drug from hell. Potential victims are sliped a dose in their drink and before too long fel drunk but otherwise normal, with a couple very creepy side effects: you lose all you judgement and free will and memory of the time you are on it.

Consequently, there are gangs that runscams where a girl finds a man who appears (or is known to have resources) and in the course of flirting with him in a club slips in the scopolamine and after a while gets him to leave, ostensibly for sex. Then she suggests they need som money , does he have an ATM card? IF the drug is working he says yeah, sure. What's your pin?" and he tells here. They stop and get cash  and she checks his balance and daily w/d limit. Then she steers him home. All the time he SEEMS wide awake and lucent but is under her control.

When they get to his place she calls her boyfriend/accomplises and teslls them where to come. They show u and suggest to him he neds to give them more money so please give them all his cards and their PINS. Others are there to tell him how much they like [everything he owns] and suggest to him he would like them to have it.

To the vicitm this makes perfecect sense and he often helps them haul every valuable item, even furniture into three waiting van downstairs. Sometimes, if the vicim has a high credit limit they keem him drugged for 3 or  days and keep taking out the daily maximum on his bank accounts until they get shut down. Then they  strip him of any nice clothes, even sis shoes and leave him on a park bench to wake up next day and try to figure out what happened.

As "B" movie as this sounds it is a real thing and frankly, it gives me some second thughsts on visiting Colombia. But if you don't let your drink out of your site, or skid drinking altogether, or party with a local who is a real friend chances are very good that you will be fine.

Here are a couple links and videos on the subject:

http://www.vice.com/video/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2  (not all in English)

http://colombiareports.com/medellin-reports-133-increase-in-scopolamine-use-by-robbers-and-rapists/

There are plnty more just search Colombia + Scopolamine

I think I'll be sure any hotel I stay in has a safe for guests at the frnt desk.

But again if ANYONE has anything to share about Colombia and or any other countries in South America, particualrly in relation to their trend in decriminalizing hard drugs, please share them with me.

And if all goes well, you w ill be getting daily pictures of my "blue plate specials" like this one from last year:  OTC Goodies

(https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F343ssh4.jpg&hash=9b4d1597ca98898fbb566d3fb7907973630131ed)

(https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F2dl17d5.jpg&hash=1f0544f84601b5c77b9f7bd783f0cb6c2784f8a7)     -OTC BENZOS

(https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F145nx3.jpg&hash=cca7ab7e481b094e9746d662112c755a879aa858)   One Afternoon's Delivery of "Puro"
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Griffin on May 30, 2016, 10:16:22 AM
Super jealous of you dc, that is so awesome, can you get opiates otc? or do you have to get H from a dealer you find? How hard would that be to source I figure cocaine would be really easy to source but I honestly have no idea. Please keep us updated with daily pictures. You have honestly inspired me to try to goto south america within the next 3 years thank you take many pictures I hope to hear a lot about it when you get back so that I can begin to plan my trip.

You need a passport to go out of the country right? Can a dui, DV harrassment, or misdemeanor possession bar you from getting your passport, I am praying that I get off off probation in January and that after that I get my passport and can visit next year I would love to do those motorcycle/scooter like trips to Argentina or chile. Do you need anything more than a passport if you plan on spending more than a few weeks or goto more than one country?

 Good luck to you I hope you have wonderful safe travels will you be able to update while you are there or only when you get back?
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: theSWPK on May 30, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Datura and Brugmansia aka angels trumpet and devils trumpet - one of which is most likely what you are talking about grow all over the US as well.  I have a large history with using scope as a deliriant for recreation. I've done it dozens of times. Even in concentrations it doesn't just instantly kick in and make you a "zombie". Firstly, no matter what, it's going to be VERY VERY bitter. That would be a give away. 2nd, it takes time to work. If you suddenly find yourself with an intense dry mouth and trouble focusing your eyes (especially up close), then immediately call for help - tell a bartender to call policia, find store owners, etc. Better yet ask for an ambulance and don't say why. If you say you were drugged they might not take you seriously.
Scopolamine usually took about 45 minutes to an hour when consumed orally for effects to begin, but dry mouth and vision problems came on for me and friends within 20 minutes.

Scopolamine can also be absorbed transdermally but this takes time and a considerable amount would have to be smeared in your without you noticing. Honestly, just mind your beverages and you'll be fine. I'd say you have more to worry about being robbed in regards to buying drugs than being lured in by some scopolamina siren/vixen.

Stay safe man.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 30, 2016, 11:35:04 AM
Super jealous of you dc, that is so awesome, can you get opiates otc? or do you have to get H from a dealer you find? How hard would that be to source I figure cocaine would be really easy to source but I honestly have no idea. Please keep us updated with daily pictures. You have honestly inspired me to try to goto south america within the next 3 years thank you take many pictures I hope to hear a lot about it when you get back so that I can begin to plan my trip.

You need a passport to go out of the country right? Can a dui, DV harrassment, or misdemeanor possession bar you from getting your passport, I am praying that I get off off probation in January and that after that I get my passport and can visit next year I would love to do those motorcycle/scooter like trips to Argentina or chile. Do you need anything more than a passport if you plan on spending more than a few weeks or goto more than one country?


 Good luck to you I hope you have wonderful safe travels will you be able to update while you are there or only when you get back?

Thanks Griffn. To answer your questions:


They don't generally have the wide variety of opiates OTC even by prescription we have here. Tramadol is about as strong as it gets w/o being in the ER and geting morphine for trauma. In some way this was a wise policy move because look at how the US has dozens of varying strngths of opiate based drugs that Big Pharma pushed doctors into overprescribing and look at all the problems that created. Most countries thuogh there's codeine compounds for coughs nd aches and pains that aren't hard to get although some, like in Mexico add something that makes you sick if you take too much more than recommended.

In Ecuador, coke is ompltely decriminalized under 2 grams for prsonal use. Cops maybe can take it from you but they can't arrest you for it. (PARADISE!) it's the highest quality and at most $20/g including "gringo tax." The first pesron I asked (If it was truly legal) was a hotel busboy who befrinded me and brought me as much as I asked for every day, right to my room as long as I bought a 2 g minimum. FWIW, Coca Tea is a tea made from the same plant that they use to make cocaine nd it is  terific morning boost, fights ltitude sickness and suppresses appetite. It is sold in stores for $4-$6 per 100 tea bags all over South America. You can order it into the US but it isn't cheap here and you run the risk of a Customs seizure.

H is also decriminalized in Colombia but frowned on.in Ecuador, where it is crimilized only 0.1 grams is allowed for personal possession. Tht's fine if you have  baby bear habit but it wasn' worth me quiting the bupe for. There up to 1 gram of C for personal use is OK.

Getting a US pasport should be no problem. It's about $80 at th DMV or other US gov't office. One word of advice , spend the etra $40 and get the passport ID card" which is just s good anduse that for everysay use and keep you passport locked up in the hotel safe.

No past misdemeanors and probably felonies will not prohibit you from getting a passport. One if you are facing a srious felony our out on propbation for one do they flag your nme and deny it until you are clear Another side note CANADA will often turn you bck at the border if ou have a DUI on your record even idf you are flying in and offer to sign an affidavit promising not tot drive. This ws done as Canada's response to ICE harassing inncent Canadians coming into the US to shop and being detained at the border for stupid things like not knowing the street name of the mall they were going to to shop.

FWIW, Colombia is supposed to be stunningly beautiful and full of the absolutely nicest people in South America and the violent days seem to be behind them, although it is still not smart for tourists to not carry flashy jewelry or wads of cash or you are as likely to get chiseled like toursts do anywhere else in the world

Any more questions? I'd love to see more members here get out and explore the drug world outside the US/Western police states where we have been labelled the scum of the Earth.

Any info, especially firsthand is alwys welcome.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Opiophelia on May 30, 2016, 12:11:31 PM
Griffin, as long as you don't have felony charges on your record, getting your passport shouldn't be a problem. Even having certain felonies may not hinder you.

I lived in Venezuela for a little over 6 months but that was back in 2006 so my info isn't super current. Awesome trip, but some scary stuff did happen while I was there. Being a 19 year old white girl in a South American country probably wasn't my smartest move but boy was that a memorable 6 months.

I got robbed by the police while I was there. They stopped me in the street and made me take them to my hotel room where they tore through all of my stuff and took everything worth more than $10. One of the cops took a small bag of cocaine out of his pocket and right in front of me tosses it on the bed and says "oh that's your cocaine, you know that's not legal? We can take you right now and no one would ever see you again" well, long story short, I had to take them to an atm and pull out my daily limit ($1,000) and give it to them or risk being taken and raped and killed. I wasn't sure how serious they were but they scared the shit out of me so I just did what they asked. I moved to a different part of Caracas that same day after they left so they didn't try to come rob me again. They almost took my passport but the hotel staff happened to come by at the right time and managed to scare them off.

Heroin was cheap (about $6/gram) and very very pure and easy to find. I always asked taxi drivers for drugs... It was always the quickest and easiest and they would take me right where I needed to go. I only got ripped off once in the hundreds of time I bought dope while there. You could buy benzos en masse fron the little news stands all over Caracas.

There weren't very many gringos there at that time. It was election year there and a lot of unrest and protests so not the best time for a young female gringo with light hair and super pale skin but I managed. I did meet this chick from England there and we split a hotel room for a few weeks and did probably 1/2 a kilo of coke together over the course of 3-4 weeks. And we took day trips to Colombia to get even more Coke lol.

I would never go back there alone now but I was a ballsy little shit about a decade ago. It finally got to the point though where I was really out of control and doing dangerous shit, like going into a place even the police won't go to cop heroin. That was probably the scariest time I've ever copped in my life but I was so sick and determined and managed to get in and out with my drugs relatively quickly.

The one thing I hated about being there was the men. Because I looked different than the local women, I was constantly getting cat called and harassed. I couldn't go anywhere without men whistling at me and saying inappropriate shit. But other than that, most people are pretty nice and it really really helps when you can speak their language at least a little. My spanish at the time was probably around 70% fluency so it was easy to get around and communicate and make friends.

I finally got out when their election was a week away because it was getting too dangerous. They were kidnapping foreigners daily so I got a ticket to Canada and got the fuck outta there and then spent the next 2 years living in Canada before eventually coming back to the states.

'Twas a good few years. Scares the crap outta me thinking about some of the shit I did because now I'm a boring suburbanite working my little 9 to 5 and only smoking weed. But it was an incredible experience that I'm glad I did while I was still very young and fearless.

Be careful DC. There's a lot of of ways to get yourself into trouble down there. Especially with otc benzos. Try not to go too overboard with them. Benzos are what caused me most of the trouble down there.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 30, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Be careful DC. There's a lot of of ways to get yourself into trouble down there. Especially with otc benzos. Try not to go too overboard with them. Benzos are what caused me most of the trouble down there.

Thanks for the feedback but what do you mean about the benzos causing "the most problems there" For you personally? How? or in general, Legally, People being stupid? Fake benzos? please elaborate.

Also, for general information , using taxi drivers to "middle " for you is one of the riskiest ways to cop when travelling anywhere in the world. Frequently, the drivers, the dealers and the cops area all in cahoots. The driver takes the mark to his friend who sells them a well overpriced or "beat bag" and gives the driver a cut. Then they  tell the cops who they just sold to and the cops come in and shake down the travelling drug buyer as described above. I'v heard about this mostly happning to Westerners looking for H in Asia.

In Ecuador I bought all my benzos OTC at phamacies and through doctors so I didn't have any unusual problems (besides normal benzo stupid shit) with them.

And, I'd be VERY interested in how you scored good coke in Colombia wo being ripped off or set up and what did you pay? Was it asy to get amountsts like 8-Balls?

PLEASE let me know I leave in 11 days.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Opiophelia on May 30, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
The benzos were a problem for me because I just do stupid shit. So the easy availability and cheap cost caused me to use way too much of them. One night I took over 70mg of clonazepam, went to the big mall in downtown Caracas and started stealing stuff. I could've gotten in big trouble had it not been for the very "nice" security guard that let me just pay him off rather than call the cops on me. I also would go out by myself, high as fuck on xanax and hang out in bars and stuff. It's amazing I didn't ever end up in super dangerous situations. So all I'm saying is, be careful with benzos if you have a hard time controlling your use with them like I do. I have a tendency to constantly redose with them and get myself into weird situations.

As for scoring coke in Colombia.... Keep in mind, it was 10 years ago that I was down there, and it was very easy to score down there at that time. Not sure about now, but I've heard that it's not as readily available as it used to be. It was cheap and oh-so-pure at that time. I paid about $8-$9/gram but I spoke Spanish well and didnt buy from the first dude I came across. There was so much of it there at that time that I could be picky until I found the best deal.

Surprisingly, I never got ripped off there. I did get ripped off once in Venezuela when trying to buy an ounce of H. They sold me vitamin powder that smelled and looked a lot like the dope there. But yeah, never ripped off with coke. The first person I asked when we got to Colombia was the taxi driver and he tried to tell us it was $20/gram but we found out real quick he was full of shit by talking to other people there. I ended up finding a good connect for about $9 by going to the part of town people had told us was where it was easiest to score, I think the barrio was called Agua Caliente (seriously, lol, they have weird neighborhood names) and I asked a waiter at a cafe.

I avoided getting scammed (somehow) by never handing over the money first and I tried to carry myself as confident and like I knew what i was doing. I have no idea about how it is there now though. Could be an entirely different scene. I bet you could dig up some info with some good google searching.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on May 30, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
OH!    OPIOPHILIA! I had forgoten all about your Mexican tales. Miss our chats.

BTW, i am still gt th etizolam but I swear it's now just bunk, especially considering it is known to have  reverese tolerance...the more you get used to it the less it takes you to get you high. Meanwhile I have been eating dozens in a day sometimes nd all I get is a good nice sleep that night.

Wanna visit me in Medellin?

-DC

PS. That invitation also stands to most of my old school Opiophil pals here.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Chip on May 31, 2016, 06:14:24 AM
whenever i consider the thought of exploring some far off land i just watch an episode or two of locked up abroad, then go back to playing my xbox

isn't that show interesting ?

you're funny, y'know?
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Opiophelia on May 31, 2016, 11:00:05 AM
Man, DC, I would if I could. But I'm in an entirely different place in my life now. I'm clean, I'm working at a brokerage firm, and been in an actual healthy relationship for the last year and we live together with our "child" lol, our dog, Tucker. So just taking off for South America isn't an option right now. I'm so glad I was able to go when I was young and had zero responsibilities to anyone but myself. I guess my crazy travel years are over at least until I retire.

Shit, I took 1 day off this past week, on Friday, and I didn't hear the end of it from my boss about how much it fucked everything up for me to take a day off.

Sigh.

Looking forward to hearing your stories though man!
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Roman Totale on May 31, 2016, 05:05:53 PM
@DeadCat Sounds awesome, I'd love to do some traveling down there (and in Mexico).  Best of luck, stay as safe as possible, and keep up updated.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on June 05, 2016, 03:22:26 PM
Datura and Brugmansia aka angels trumpet and devils trumpet - one of which is most likely what you are talking about grow all over the US as well.  I have a large history with using scope as a deliriant for recreation. I've done it dozens of times. Even in concentrations it doesn't just instantly kick in and make you a "zombie". Firstly, no matter what, it's going to be VERY VERY bitter. That would be a give away. 2nd, it takes time to work. If you suddenly find yourself with an intense dry mouth and trouble focusing your eyes (especially up close), then immediately call for help - tell a bartender to call policia, find store owners, etc. Better yet ask for an ambulance and don't say why. If you say you were drugged they might not take you seriously.
Scopolamine usually took about 45 minutes to an hour when consumed orally for effects to begin, but dry mouth and vision problems came on for me and friends within 20 minutes.

Scopolamine can also be absorbed transdermally but this takes time and a considerable amount would have to be smeared in your without you noticing. Honestly, just mind your beverages and you'll be fine. I'd say you have more to worry about being robbed in regards to buying drugs than being lured in by some scopolamina siren/vixen.

Stay safe man.

Yeah, those YouTube videos made it sound like it was happening left and right. The part bothered me was that I'm travelling alone.

Speaking of socpalamine I have taken it recreationally too. I just did it once when I was 17 or 18. A friend had found Jimeson weed growing and we harvested two film cans full of seed and brewed up a tea from them. Somehow we got separated but we each had the strangest trip either of us had before or since. It's too involved to go into here but vivid hallucinations all night were part of it. The dry mouth and balance problems were part of it too.

It was the emphasis on the lack of free will and suggestibility in the videos that gave me the creeps.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on June 09, 2016, 10:01:59 PM
Well, it's about that time...

Friday I fly down to Colombia on the overnight and I will arrive in Pablo Escobar's hometown of Medellin , Colombia "Land of Eternal Spring," $10 grams of pure cocaine, liberal pharmacies and beautiful women. I'll be down there for about 6 weeks.  I intend to find all.

Last year I spent a similar time in Ecuador and I made daily reports with pitures of my drugs intake aka "Todays Blue Plate Special."  Unfortunately, it was on Opiophile and is now gone. If people here would like to enjoy my trip vicariously I could do the ame here. Let me know because I don't want to waste my time on posting updates if nobody wants to see them.

And Admins, should this be moved to the "Members' Only" sub-board or a new thread started there?

48 hrs to wheels up.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Roman Totale on June 09, 2016, 10:28:31 PM
I'd definitely like to see some updates, for what it's worth.  Probably best for them to be in a members-only thread, though.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on June 10, 2016, 12:47:28 AM
BTW  I watched 2 hours of one of the shows bout airport security. This one just happened to be about colombia. THey busted people after having them walk through the scanner that could show ballots. They tested ll bottled liquids for liquid coke. THey exryed all bags and found coke when they drilled into the metl frames of luggage. 

As when I left Ecuador I will sterilize or leave behind all paraphernalia and no way in hell will I be mailing "just a couple of grams" to friends and I sure has hell won't swallow a few gallons even personal consumption amounts,


I know the TV show was a bit of "Scare 'em" propaganda but I am smart enough to know that any attempt ti Make would be amateurish to those who have come before me and compared to the inventiveness police see every day. Now I might leave with enough coke in my bloodstream that a session on a dialysis machine might yield some product.....

Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Griffin on June 10, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
Yeah risking prison abroad is no joke, I had a horrible nightmare about being in a prison in thailand unable to go home. Unfortunately friday is do or die day for me as well when i figure out if my PO is going to put me in jail to kick or not for lying about finishing my community service, both fingers crossed i plan on taking my dose with me so I can just double dose before they take me in hopes of sleeping through booking and prolonging my time w/o withdrawal.

I hate jail it has been the cause of so much anxiety this last month. oh well i digress I would love to see updates dc so please do! You have inspired me to try and get out of the country next year if I get off paper in January.

For anyone who travels do you think $3000-$4000 would be enough for a 2-4 week trip abroad? I am thinking of taking extra student loans to either visit south america maybe a biking trip to Argentina so i can visit a lot more countries and get the non tour guided feel you were talking about,

Right now the 2 other places I am considering are Europe or Africa. If I goto Africa probably somewhere around South Africa then go up towards tanania or kenya and hopefully climb mt. kilimanjaro. In Europe I'd probably goto Portugal, spain, germany, Amsterdam, and then maybe England.

So far flights I think I have found round trips for less then 1300$ so the rest would be the trip but I'd like to know a bit from someone experienced. Also for going through different countries are there any problems or things I should know for a trip like that, sorry to thread jack you guys can pm if anyone has any info this thread and you DC have inspired me to do this while I still can before I turn 30.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on June 11, 2016, 01:04:48 AM
Yeah risking prison abroad is no joke, I had a horrible nightmare about being in a prison in thailand unable to go home. Unfortunately friday is do or die day for me as well when i figure out if my PO is going to put me in jail to kick or not for lying about finishing my community service, both fingers crossed i plan on taking my dose with me so I can just double dose before they take me in hopes of sleeping through booking and prolonging my time w/o withdrawal.

I hate jail it has been the cause of so much anxiety this last month. oh well i digress I would love to see updates dc so please do! You have inspired me to try and get out of the country next year if I get off paper in January.

For anyone who travels do you think $3000-$4000 would be enough for a 2-4 week trip abroad? I am thinking of taking extra student loans to either visit south america maybe a biking trip to Argentina so i can visit a lot more countries and get the non tour guided feel you were talking about,

Right now the 2 other places I am considering are Europe or Africa. If I goto Africa probably somewhere around South Africa then go up towards tanania or kenya and hopefully climb mt. kilimanjaro. In Europe I'd probably goto Portugal, spain, germany, Amsterdam, and then maybe England.

So far flights I think I have found round trips for less then 1300$ so the rest would be the trip but I'd like to know a bit from someone experienced. Also for going through different countries are there any problems or things I should know for a trip like that, sorry to thread jack you guys can pm if anyone has any info this thread and you DC have inspired me to do this while I still can before I turn 30.

It depends what countries you visit, how you travel (bus air) and where you stay you an get a bed in a shared room at a hostel for about $10 a night. That's fine if you are young and reavelling with friends but the lack of privcy and comfort makes it less desireavle for the oldster of us.

Then there's this: https://www.vice.com/read/this-is-what-bolivias-legendary-cocaine-bar-is-actually-like-903

Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2016, 01:13:28 AM
Hello Deadcat,

Damn man. I wish I had seen this thread before you left. It just so happens that the company I work for currently is owed over USD 900K for work done
on some Engines and accessories that belong to a company in Medellin! We are secured in the respect that we are in possession of the customers property,
so we can do do a foreclosure  on the property. It would have been cool if you could have financed your trip by making a visit that resulted in them clearing the invoices. Although it is not a situation that is completely without  risk. Those boys are noted to play rough down that way, and they start off very young. They say that Pablo was dong hits while driving on a motorbike.

Brother I am green with envy! You are living the dream. I currently could not come anyway. I am 4 weeks into a 12 week Hep C treatment with some very strong
DAA ( Direct Acting Antivirals ). I am taking Sovaldi and Daclatasvir.If you just happen in your travels to come across either or both of these drugs, please check on the price to a regular citizen. Also the price for a Gringo that happened to have the need.

Have a great time and be safe my friend! One day we will make the trip together.

Peace and Via Con Dias,

Tony 2016 Don't tread on me!

P.S. Please keep an eye out for quantities of San Pedro Cactus.I hear some folks are making a small fortune
exporting this fast growing ally plant!

             
 
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Chip on July 03, 2016, 02:21:37 AM
{snip}
I am 4 weeks into a 12 week Hep C treatment with some very strong
DAA ( Direct Acting Antivirals ). I am taking Sovaldi and Daclatasvir.If you just happen in your travels to come across either or both of these drugs, please check on the price to a regular citizen.
{snip}

how about Harvoni (http://www.harvoni.com/) ? it's a revolutionary HCV treatment that they are using in Aus. check it out, you may want to switch to it if it's affordable.

it is a combination therapy consisting of ledipasvir/sofosbuvir - my mate who has Hep C in the brain is currently on it and it's the first time they have been able to treat his hep. with anything that didn't try to kill him (he has AIDS).
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Jethro on July 03, 2016, 06:02:01 PM
Griffin, Wait until you are off paper. IF you could get a passport . . . 
when you show up to get on an international flight . . .
 red lights will start flashing and steel gates are gonna slam shut around you.
    This is a bit more than slinking of to Oklahoma !
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on July 03, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
Tony, Griffin,

I forgot all about this thread becasue I've been posting in the "out of the Public Eye...."  one. Your posts resurrected this one.
Because I want to be sure I am not breaking any rules here I'll ask that talk about finding medicines or supplements I will be happy to talk about specifics in emails.

Griffin, I suppose you need to get a direct answer to this from your probation officer but I was on "unsupervised probation" when I got on the plane and since then it has expired but I did check and I was told it was no problem. My understanding is that if you are wanted for felony warrants you can't get a passport but as long as you are in good standing with the authorites and complying with whatever your specific requirements it isn't necessarily prohibited.

Tony, I am here for a couple more weeks. We should talk by email.

There are little health food stores that have all kinds of exotic dried plants for sale here, I just don't recognize them. I know that South American countries are now telling the US to fcuk off with their war on drugs and allowing personal use of formerly controlled substances, particularly if they are native to the area. Peru is taking the stance that they are "part of their cultural heritage."

Today I was out exploring the city and I walked by a kid sitting on a stoop filling a little corn cob pipe with white rocks and preparing to spark them up as I walked by. However, I also know there is a stigma against smoking crack but not snorting powder so I kept walking.  Plus, I never truly liked freebase or crack it was just too overwhelming for me and my preference is for the opiates and that kind of high anyway.

I am sure if I was here for longer and made more local friends I could find H but it's not the kind of thing you bring up as a foreigner who barely speaks the language 10 minutes after you meet someone.

Tony, the father of a guy I've gotten to know a little down here owned a bus company and he told me when he was young someone warned his father that he and his two brothers were targeted for kidnapping, which did go an a lot here. He said his father had to reach out to the "organization" and negotiate for it to be called off. The price was he had to give 3 buses to the group to keep his 3 sons safe.  I could talk to him a little about your company's problem. He might know someone to talk to about it.



 
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Jethro on July 03, 2016, 07:56:37 PM
   Perhaps someone on probation can get a passport.
It is a big leap to "PO okays a trip to Medellin".  LOL
  And on the  price of international travel . . .
"If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford it".
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Griffin on July 04, 2016, 06:36:08 AM
I'm on misdemeanor probation and can't get a passport was told no for my original charges and again for the new charges, I can't even leave the state with out jerking off my PO. That is one of the bigger things I am looking forward to when getting off, I am moving out of this state and then leaving the country for 3 months, and hoping I don't end up at the bangkok hilton with my past luck with the law, so I don't plan on touching drugs unless I am in portugal or places like columbia where they aren't going to keep me for a bit of coke or whatever.

That is good to know though about you being able to get one, did you have your passport before you got on probation? I let mine expire like an idiot, and both times I went to check about renewing it they said no. I don't know if it is charge or state specific, it shouldn't be, I'd understand if you have warrants, but if your on probation and you haven't fucked it up they should leave you be. I am some what worried I wont be able to enjoy some countries because of my charges but hopefully in time people will understand charges in america don't mean shit or any wrong doing.

I have never asked my PO specifically about passports, or leaving the country I am sure she would laugh in my face then accuse me of trying to bail and impose some extra bs on me. I haven't been able to read my PO i have had for almost a year now though, she seems nice, sweet, and understanding, but I just get the feeling that is an act to pull you in to get to trust her so she can have her way with you the second you admit to any wrong doing. The last one was no nonsense and she let you know if you sneezed out of place she was going to bend you over the desk before you could say excuse me.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: DeadCat on July 04, 2016, 02:41:05 PM
Did you apply to the US State Department directly for the renewal or just ask yout (privately employed) probation officer?  I had to get mine renewed last year and I was on probation at the time but it sailed right through.

If you haven't actually submitted the paperwork through the correct channels I would just do that and see what happens. BTW, when you (anyone) applies it is worth the extra $40 to ask for both the passport and the "US Passport ID Card" which is wallet sized and valid ID anywhere inthe world.

As far as you getting local clearance the way to do it (and I did this years ago to leave a state I was on probation in) is ask your lawyer/public defender to file for permission to travel out od state or even leave the state permenantly and have the probation continued by mail or by the new state's dept of corrections (whoever handles probations).  When I did this it was under felony probation and my lawyer told the judge I had a job offer the judge immediately approved it. One of the reasons I left is that I was using and knew that sooner or later they would catch me either with dope or drop a dirty UA and it would get worse.

Don't take a private corrections company employee's word for it. They BUSINESS is to keep you running in that hampster wheel and making them money, not help you get on with your life.

FFS it is MISDEMEANOR probation it shouldn't ruin your life.
Title: Re: Back to South America.......
Post by: Griffin on July 05, 2016, 10:38:11 AM
Yeah, both times it was at the post office when I asked about applying, I haven't ran it past the PO and never will. Yeah when I got sentenced the first time, I told the judge I was homeless, knew no one in the state, had no money or possessions, etc, and he said he would appove me to  move. Then at the PO office she told me I had to go through interstate compact, and then if they approved me they would send it to the judge to get approved. Well Interstate compact told me my charges make me ineligible to move to another state on both my first charge and my charges from the last arrest.

Bastard's I had to pay $100 both times to be told to fuck off, I had already talked to Oklahoma people and they said they'd take me with my charges, my po wasn't against it, and that I could be on unsupervised, and then interstate compact told me to kick rocks... twice. How the fuck is the lowest misdemeanor (m3?) for calling someone without purpose or intent of actual conversation on the no list, and dui and possession come on they pass that shit out like candy.


... Fuck interstate compact, fuck the judicial system, fuck po's, fuck dickhead cops, and fuck all the assholes that been fucking with me for the past 3 years, its misdemeanor probation suck a dick I haven't killed anyone... yet but damn if they aren't trying to force that outcome. I am going to go through the state department and not the punk ass post office and im asking about this passport shit, not that they'd let me leave the country but it's a matter of pride right now, and plus if I need to flee to an unextraditable country I don't have the cash to do it the hard way.
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