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General => General Discussion for Everybody => Topic started by: Zoops on September 01, 2015, 06:20:52 AM
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Hey y'all.
I need to vent a bit. So some background first.
I've been renting the basement room in a townhouse from a very nice Hispanic family (husband, wife and their four year old son and the man's auntie who also lives in her own bedroom).
The extra bedroom upstairs had been rented by a young man from Sierra Leone (Africa) for the past almost exactly year. Until a few days ago on Friday when he told the lady that he'd be moving out by the first of September, which is tomorrow. Only thing is, he was away when he called her and told her that, and asked if she could clean out his filthy dirty nasty room and move out all his furniture (which was a nightstand, mattress and box spring) and a bunch of trash that he was collecting in there.
So last night, as I was napping, the lady called me and asked if I could help move out the mattress from his room. This was the first I had heard that the guy was moving out. She said, "hey and I found this bottle of bedbug spray in his room. That's what I have been smelling for the past few weeks." Stuff smells like some kind of muscle ache rub or something like Ben-Gay or the like.
And I was like "oh yeah he mentioned something about how he thought he might have brought home some bedbugs from spending the night at his brother's house a month or so ago. So I moved the mattress down the stairs, and the boxspring set too. She gave me a tasty frozen pizza, two cokes and an ice cream sandwich for my trouble, which was appreciated heartily, as I am a bit tight on funds ATM.
So this afternoon, she asked me again if I could help her to pull up the carpet in his room and also told me that this morning when she went in there, that there were dozens of small little bugs crawling on the wall, and that when she crushed them with a napkin, that blood came out. I saw one of the dead ones on the wall and identified it as Cimex adjunctus , or the common bed bug endemic to the Eastern United States (I had to look up the scientific name but I like to sound cool like that).
Since I had been on a mission up into NW DC earlier in the afternoon to score some dope, I was already itchin like a mugg, and this shit sent that through the roof! Just thinkin about it makes my skin crawl!
--o.k. my computer is doing that annoying thing where it's lagging waay behind what I'm typing so I'm gonna post this then "modify" the rest hopefully that solves the problem. Bear with me people--
So anyway, yeah that fixed the problem.
So since she didn't have his number and I did, she asked me if I could send this guy a text and inform him that she'd have to keep his $100 security deposit because of the clean up required. We pulled up the carpet in that room, she bagged up all this guy's clothes and stacked it in the closet. Talk about having no damn class. Where they do that at? Calling your landlady and telling her "please bag up all my shit and take out my furniture?" WTF is this guy thinkin?
Anyway, after I send him a text explaining that we found bedbugs in his room, he calls me back hot as a motherfucker saying "you need ta stay da fuck out my business, slim!" and I was like first of all she asked me to come up here and help her to move all the shit out your room, and then she asked me what I thought all those bugs were. I told her it was a bed bug. Everybody knows what a bedbug looks like. So, I ain't "snitchin" on you or anything like that, homie. And I did mention to her that you had said something about being afraid you had brought home bedbugs from your brother's place a few weeks ago, and besides you had a can of bedbug spray sitting right there on your windowsill, so it aint like I gave her a bunch of secret info or anything, bro.
This fucking guy is a piece of fuckin work. Same guy who routinely accused me of stealing cans of his beer just about every time he'd get drunk as shit. It was getting super-old. And he had apparently been spilling beer on the carpet in this room for it seems quite a while too. The carpet needed to go anyway, because it was super-nasty and smelled like fucking shit too. Still was wet.
If this lady tells her hotheaded Latino husband he's gonna go completely mental and probably try to do something to this guy. So for the time being we're gonna keep him out of the loop vis-à-vis bedbugs and shit, but if this dude comes by and starts static with me, we might need to bring the husband into it too, because I don't want to hurt this skinny little malnourished butthole (he is about 6 foot and not a gram over 130 pounds probably a bit less actually). Thinks he is a certified "gangsta."
Fuckin clown if you ask me. I feel bad for him because he just got fired from his job at Home Goods (which is a chain furniture, knickknack and assorted bullshit selling store for all those who don't live in areas where they are around) for spraying some cologne on himself then putting the bottle or can back on the shelf. They saw him do that and fired his ass for it, according to him. But I don't quite believe that's how it happened exactly to be honest.
I mean, you gotta be a bit off your rocker to carry it like that - calling your landlady and asking her to bag up all your shit, clean out your room, and THEN copping attitude when your other housemate tells you that she's gonna keep your security deposit for bedbugs. He says, "send me a picture, I don't believe it." Poor little non-English speaking auntie was all like "que asqueroso este cuarto" (how filthy this room).
So that's my afternoon so far. Hopefully this dumbass don't show up tonight and make a scene. I had a nice opiated dope buzz goin on too...damn. Just. Damn.
C'mon.
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The worst part of that story is the fuking bedbugs. Do everything possible to make sure you don't bring into your crib, once you got them, it takes serious $$$$ to get rid of them, I actually had to have two of them come over to finally finish the job but I was lucky, the building I lived in paid for it. They suck, at the worst I had hundreds of bites. Too bad ol Jonny ran off with the Opiophile archives I had a thread on there about them with 50 or 70 replies, lots of good experience and ways to get rid of them or minimize the damage.
Take the clothes you wore in his room, put them in a hefty bag and keep them separate from everything else and wash the hell out them, wash them twice. Check under your mattress a couple times a day, that's the main place they congregate. G'luck bro, I wish you better luck than I had. You ought to turn the psycho Hispanic landlord loose on the guy for that alone, not to mention all the other shit.
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¡Putas malditas chinches! Ya voy a lavar mis ropas ahorita. (damn fucking bedbugs!, I'm going now to wash my clothes)
Good thing I have a few extra $$ atm to wash clothes.
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The last apartment complex I lived in had bedbugs and all they did was spray twice a year for them and didn't care about them. I basically had to get rid of everything I owned I washed my blanket 3 times on hot with 4x the amount of bleach and detergent that anyone should ever use on each cycle and then put it through the dryer twice just to see them still alive and crawling on it when I pulled it out after all that.
Theres nothing you can do almost besides just burning the place down to get rid of them. I had bites and everything, I bug bombed my room once or twice a week killed every single one I saw used a plastic anti-bed bug liner and sheets so they can't get into the mattress or out and I would still find them crawling on the bed every time I came home it was awful. I threw away all my clothes and bags and shoes they were In everything my stuff was in a storage unit in trash bags for 2 months and when I got it out I found bugs and eggs still on them so I just trashed them
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Zoops, you ought to take the bed-bugs very seriously.
you don't want them to migrate and suss out a way to get a pest guy in to eradicate them.
be vigilant.
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Griffin, what a huge fucking nightmare.
I make my point.
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OMFG. I'm scared because I can't afford to throw out all my clothes. What'll I wear? I was reading about them on Wiki and it says that they can live for months without feeding, so unlike with lice, where you can seal up clothes in a plastic bag and leave it for 10 days or so, that won't fly with bedbugs. But, it says a clothes dryer at 115F for ten minutes will kill them all, or a freezer for a length of time (I forget how long) will kill 'em too.
Well, I'm all the way downstairs and this guy's room is/was two floors up. I haven't actually seen any of these critters yet, but the lady said she saw them crawling on the wall and crushed a couple of them to see blood coming out.
And they are going to make his room the room for their 4 year old boy now. Up until now, the boy was sleeping on a little futon thingy in the parent's bedroom with mom and dad at night. They were painting in the now-vacant room when I went down to the Laundromat to do some much needed laundry earlier this evening (it's 3am now - like I said before in another thread, I can't sleep to save my life when I'm on dope).
Why's it gotta be the African immigrant bringing this stuff into the house and then suddenly dipping out? How come it's like that? Why why why? I don't want to think that way! I don't like to have those thoughts. But damn I can't help it.
And this dope has me all itchy too, so I can't tell if I'm itching from dope or bedbug bites. It's screwing up my high.
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man I pity the small child being introduced to that room.
might you speak up ? the landlord needs to be reminded, perhaps ?
that poor boy.
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What am I going to say, "hey you can't put your son in that room he'll get bit up like crazy?" I guess that's all I could say, right?
yeah I'll mention it to her, but I think the whole house might be fixin to end up just like that little boy. I think if he understood what he was going to move into, he'd cry. All alone in there at night with those damn blood sucking parasites.
You think having lots of narcotics and other shit in your system might kill them? Or maybe I should just eat one of those advantix pet flea and tick remover tablets that poisons the bugs that drink the pet's blood?
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I think nothing will stop them except caps on your bed's legs - they are how ant-caps work on your foundations for termite control.
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keep an eye on the kid and warn his folks.
I know you got this.
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Zoops, I lived in a place that I later realized was infested and this is the problem with bedbugs. Whenever you spray/heat treat one area of the house, or even the entire house, they migrate to the walls. They like cool and dark places. So, spraying doesn't get rid of them. The only way to really get rid of them is to throw away( or use a steam cleaner on your possessions) EVERYTHING (minus clothes; I will explain this in a second) in the ENTIRE house, then get a professional to go through the entire house making sure he gets in between the walls etc. If you don't throw away everything in the house and then get an exterminator to go through the ENTIRE property, they will migrate to different areas and just come back once the chemicals wear off.
After you move out, you NEED to do the following or else you will bring the bedbugs to wherever you move;
Clothes don't need to be thrown away, because heat kills them, so just throw them in a dryer and make them very very very very hot etc. However, your mattress cannot be saved. All other furniture will need to be steam cleaned and very meticulously, in every crevice and nook and cranny. Books and whatnot can be saved; but need to be put in a plastic bag, left out in the heat for a few months, then kept in taped sealed plastic garbage bags for close to a full year. Everything you cannot treat or expose to heat via steam cleaners needs to be thrown away.
This happened to me and my girl when my stupidity and habit had robbed us of all our money; it was terrible timing and made us go fucking crazy, like THE WORST timing and was the icing on the shitstorm cake. Getting new furniture and dealing with the problem took a vigilant 2 months solid and cost us nearly $2,000 (without counting needing to move out early and get a new place'/lease).
Sorry bud, but keep in mind that everything you leave in your basement apartment and then bring to someone else's place (like backpack and even your clothes) can actually cause the fuckers to infest the new place your visiting, so be careful. This is why bedbugs are a huge problem, and it's safe to say that often they are transmitted when people stay at hotels and motels because they can be carried through luggage and backpacks. Don't believe me? http://bedbugregistry.com/ (http://bedbugregistry.com/)
"advantix pet flea and tick remover tablets that poisons the bugs that drink the pet's blood?"
-Advantix doesn't kill them, you need special bedbug chemical like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth
!!!!!!!!!
Haha, fuck
Anyways. After nearly 3 grand, and a bunch of new shit, and heartache, me and my girl can safely sing "We're Stronger than tha Buggggs!" and haven't seen them since, but, yeah unless you move and get new shit they aint going no where. (We're strnger than the stoooormmm!)
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A few years back I moved into a place that was in a bad state. There were two floors. The basement was the former main bedroom, but we put our son down there. The plan was to move the second in there when he was older (he was 1 at the time.)
We moved in, ate our obligatory post move pizza, and put our son to bed. 15 minutes later there were blood curdling screams and a kid sprinting up the stairs.
He had bites all over. ALL over. Hundreds. He said when he played down they swarmed him. I consulted the internet, and the internet said to put a piece of white paper on the ground turn off the lights, and come back in ten minutes. The result was so many fleas you could barely see the paper. I turned off the lights and looked around with a flashlight and you could see them jumping.
Maybe it wasn't fleas, but that is what I called them. I know it cost about 3 grand for the landlord to treat them all. He tried to say it was my cat, but one cat isn't the migratory vessel for a million fleas without being Noah's fucking ark. I can see the cat that conversation evoked with a halo of fleas constantly jumping and buzzing around the poor guy just to make room for them all.
It took months to get rid of it all. 3 treatments with bombs and liquids and other generally disgusting things that aren't recommended around young kids.
Okay, maybe not bed bugs, but please don't let her put the kid in there. My oldest is still afraid of the dark because of all of that. It was months he was sleeping in my bed and refusing to go in his room.
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Bed bug bites look and feel a lot like poison ivy, but they usually appear in straight lines
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You generally can't rid of bedbugs in a wood frame structure without tenting the house ala Breaking Bad.
I should know, I had two rental properties that got bedbugs because I don't think the management company vetted the tenants properly.
Zoops, think of this
Sierra Leone, a year ago. Ebola was in full flame mode. It's a good thing buddy only brought in bedbugs.
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I would start by just getting bed bug resistant sheets and cover for you mattress, bug bombing your room, his room, and then the whole house. Look up diatomaceous earth it is a natural thing that you can use that kills them and works very well. I would use it everywhere and then get the house sprayed if the landlord is wiling to pay for this stuff. If there is something that you can put all around your room to keep them from coming in like the diatomaceous earth I would. Maybe put your clothes, shoes, and bags in sealed trash bags if they haven't got them yet so you can keep it that way until this whole thing is dealt with. Whatever you can do to keep yourself and clothes protected should be top priority because they can move throughout a house quickly so start shielding yourself quickly and see what the land lord will be willing to do to help you out so you don't get them. Also inform them of all the serious repercussions of bed bugs and how they need to get it completely under control before moving a child into the room. Also they have to continue to bed bug bomb and use all the remedies continuously even after they don't see the problem because they can live through long ass periods and they lay lots of eggs and will just keep coming back until completely eradicated. Good luck!
Griffin
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You can get diatomaceous earth at places like Home Depot, sometimes sold as "Celite." Be careful with it, you don't want to be inhaling that stuff, but it should be cheap.
Frankly if it was me, I'd move. By going into that room and fucking with his stuff, you've likely spread them around the house.
Good suggestions about the clothes dryer, I've heard the best way to deal with them is heat, but they're known to be extremely resilient, I wouldn't expect an easy fight.
Dude bailed for a reason, he knows it's gonna be a helluva PITA dealing with them.
As for why it had to be the African dude who brought them in? It's because you and the African dude are both humans - same species same blood; white people are just as likely to spread those fuckers as anyone else, and you might.. His brother (or whatever) probably got them from a shared housing situation, just like you just did..
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Opies
Make me itch
But this brings that shit
To the next level
Like the 11th floor
Just got back from mattress shopping
And still scratching
Thank for the graphic description
You grammar nazi
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You know were all going to be forced to start looking at bugs as a food source here soon enough. Per weight they have an extrodinary amount of protein.You x amount of years from now is gonn be grilling them bitches.
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You know were all going to be forced to start looking at bugs as a food source here soon enough. Per weight they have an extrodinary amount of protein.You x amount of years from now is gonn be grilling them bitches.
I done eating when they start grilling bugs
I know eco wise that's great
But fuckin ewwwe
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You know were all going to be forced to start looking at bugs as a food source here soon enough. Per weight they have an extrodinary amount of protein.You x amount of years from now is gonn be grilling them bitches.
no way in hell will i ever look to insects as a food source. rather you than me, bro' ! *shudder*
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Due to countries like the United States consuming a staggering amount of meat,along with the growing population of the world, many more will start to starve if we dont look at insects as a food source. Its not bad if you trick your mind. Im not talking about worms and such. Things like grasshoppers arent really that off putting. If society taught you eating insects was the norm and that eating animals was taboo, the thought of a pigs ass on your plate wouldnt be appealing at first.
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true but i'm never going to try anything that even looked like an insect. just a matter of personal taste and not anything else.
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I feel you.
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true but i'm never going to try anything that even looked like an insect. just a matter of personal taste and not anything else.
this is exactly how I feel about lobster. its a giant underwater bug and I just cant dig it.
unrelated but heres a great read for anyone currently looking for a great read.
http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster.html
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We are "lucky"
That we get to live in a farm
The site of factory farmed
beef will make you switch.
I don't know how strong your
stomic is but
Shudder * 10
Its making me had just thinking about it.
We eat allot king veggies
Fruit, goat cheese and milk
Meat like once a week
It is usually bird
Seafood and red meat once a month
Almost no pork ever
Factory farmed beef is one thing
But ff pork gross
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true but i'm never going to try anything that even looked like an insect. just a matter of personal taste and not anything else.
this is exactly how I feel about lobster. its a giant underwater bug and I just cant dig it.
unrelated but heres a great read for anyone currently looking for a great read.
http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster.html
I'm impressed, you are familiar with David Foster Wallace then?
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I've read big spiders taste like crab.
I'm not a fan of spiders, but boy do I love me some crab!
Les Stroud claims roasted scorpions are pretty tasty too, just gotta break the stinger off. Probably not far off soft shelled crab (yum!). He likes roasted grubs tho too, might be a little tougher to get me to eat those, but under the right circumstances food is food.
Love me some mudbugs too, innit dat right hero? Suckin' da heads till their eyeballs cave!!
Man I never heard anyone say they don't like lobsters, that's a new one to me..
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Oh yea I love me some
Mud bugs.
Soft shell crabs omg
I think I would week just about anything
For a soft shell crab po-boy
Now that's some wicked shit
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Yea ill meal on lobsters all day. The shrimp with shit still stuck in the digestive system is nastyyy though. Like, da fuq?
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true but i'm never going to try anything that even looked like an insect. just a matter of personal taste and not anything else.
this is exactly how I feel about lobster. its a giant underwater bug and I just cant dig it.
unrelated but heres a great read for anyone currently looking for a great read.
http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster.html
I'm impressed, you are familiar with David Foster Wallace then?
I'm a huge DFW fan, I've read Infinite Jest twice, including the footnotes-probably the best part-I kid you not. I still find it amazing that a human being could write that book, what a genius. A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never do Again is also hilarious also.
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you have to de-vein the shrimps.
We're big on them and call them prawns in Australia and they cost between $20-$30.
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Dam. How much do you get for that much money?
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you have to de-vein the shrimps.
We're big on them and call them prawns in Australia and they cost between $20-$30.
Is that cost each, per kilogram, per serving (which is how many)?
What size are they typically, because I think they can range from microscopic to 10cm long or more?
An English Professor was fond of using "Fresh-Frozen, Jumbo Shrimp" as an example of a double, oxymoron.
As an example of a triple oxymoron, he gave: "Permanent Guest Host"
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Well, hopefully, I was a bit premature in the screaming bloody murder bedbugs department, because I hain't seen nary a one yet, nor got bit yet neither.
And as a matter of fact the lady was the only one to "see" one upstairs too. I just saw on the wall where she had crushed a couple of them, with smears of sort of dried bloody stuff coming out of their bodies.
As soon as I see a live bedbug crawling (or running, rather - those fuckers can MOVE!) on my wall or bed or wherever, I'm going into certified, official freak-out mode.
Keepin' yall posted but thanks for the concerns :o
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Morphy, sorry that's $20-30 per kilogram.
the bigger, the less taste they have so i aim for the guys around 60 cm. / 2 inches.
that's what this site is a permanent guest host, a triple oxy-(words that sound good enough to shoot)-moron.
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Ex-housemate be doin' too much, but it ain't just bamas from Sierra Leon, it's bama-ass NOVA mugs, moe. You always have an escape in Upper NW, young. If you can manage to actually sleep and stick around for 3pm brunch!
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Listen man, you need to make little traps and put them on your bed legs. take a plastic bowl, put a smaller plastic bowl in side...you know...let me just share the link
it's better to act like they are there then wait until you start seeing them. they are going to be on the move looking for food....i didn't say this earlier but it will be better for you if they put someone in that room...because they wont start migrating then..but i would be worried for a little boy.
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You won't see them ....the bites will show up...and as far as getting rid of them....good luck...the house will have to be tented and extreme heat will have to be used....
puppy
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I really hope that the whole thing was a misidentification of, I dunno, some fleas? But they jump like crazy and are hard to spot, much less crush on the wall, like the lady said she had done, so I guess they couldn't have been fleas.
But something else besides the devil's concubine!
So far no bites, just itchy dope itchiness. I mean no visible bit marks like from insect bites. I haven't heard anyone who lives upstairs complain about gettin bit either.
:o
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Yeah, if they jump they are fleas, bedbugs don't jump. Consider yourself lucky, fleas are a whole lot easier to eradicate.
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Funny you guys bring up the eating bugs thing.
I was just in a cab and saw a billboard that read "Crickets are the new Kale"
I was like WTF??!?!
So, here's what googlemachine said: Apparently people are eating them, for their protein. Yes, it's gross, but you can buy "cricket protein powder" to add to stuff like smoothies and shakes. No joke peeps.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/30/news/economy/cricket-shake/
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I had sho nuff bedbugs a few years back and they were amazingly easy to get rid of, maybe I just caught them early. I bombed the 23" trailer with 4 bug bombs and put all four bed legs in empty tuna fish cans full of diesel oil.
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The only member of my house that will ever eat crickets is my leopard gecko. They are disgusting animals. If they are even the littlest bit hungry they just eat each other, and they put out more crap than Donald Trump.
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The only member of my house that will ever eat crickets is my leopard gecko. They are disgusting animals. If they are even the littlest bit hungry they just eat each other, and they put out more crap than Donald Trump.
Ohmygawd Z!! I'm torn between laughing (love your posts) & being miffed because crickets at night are one of my favorite sounds on the planet. That noise is what I dream of come winter. I had no idea Jiminy Cricket was a cannibal What a bummer :(
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A couple of things about eating insects;
Eating insects would be a far more healthy, kinder and ecologically sensible way for humans to get their protein. The ratio of wasted plant based food and water and fossil fuels used to meat's to bring a hamburger is mind blowing. Like 660 galllons of water, burn over 10 calories of fossil fuel per single calorie of processed food, many magnitudes of climate changing emissions, 17 times the acerage of nutrition per acre, and on. If we want to keep the planet at all like it is now as a home, we will have to make some changes, real changes in the way we live.
The resitance to eating insects is learned. Many aboriginal cultures eat insects and larvae with delight. In New England we call lobster "bugs" becasue they are not to distant relatives of insects yet they are a modern 1st world delicacy.
How can you look into th eyes of a fellow mammal like a cow and not know there is somethig wrong about murdering it to create a hot dog? I don't believe it is categorically wrong to eat dead mammals but I feel we would be far better off doing it with the reverence that was practiced by Native Americans, not the industrialized holocost of the Nazis. Think of them as your cats and dogs and then enjoy a dogburger.
Yeah I find it difficult to imagine chomping down on a mouthfull of crickets but cricket meal could be made palatable enough so that we wouldn't be immediately aware of it, just like we forget about the screams of a slaughterhouse when we eat red meat. In a generation or two the revulsion to eating insects coud be unlearned. Our grandchildren might look at our eating practices with horror and revulsion far worse than the disinclination we have to eating bugs.
And DAK, you were fortunate. Your bedbugs were contained to a trailer. That's a friendlier kill box/ battle ground than a 4 bedroom colonial or an apartment in a high rise full of apartments and transient neighbors. That's no slight to your efforts though.
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I swear I made a post about this, not sure what happened to it.
Rumor is big spiders taste like crab. Not hard to imagine..
Cajuns call crawfish 'mudbugs' (right Hero? suckin' dey heads!) - it's true, all they are is big water bugs, and oh. so. tasty.
If you like shellfish, you pretty much eat bugs already.
Some people cringe at the thought of eating algae too, and I admit, it's not the most palatable stuff, but it is FULL of protein and minerals. Similar to seaweed (some of which is damned tasty).
I'll take mudbugs and seaweed over a fucking Big Mac ANYDAY.
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^^^ word. Love me some water bugs for dinner, especially cooked up with some spicy cream-based sauce.
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A couple of things about eating insects;
Eating insects would be a far more healthy, kinder and ecologically sensible way for humans to get their protein. The ratio of wasted plant based food and water and fossil fuels used to meat's to bring a hamburger is mind blowing. Like 660 galllons of water, burn over 10 calories of fossil fuel per single calorie of processed food, many magnitudes of climate changing emissions, 17 times the acerage of nutrition per acre, and on. If we want to keep the planet at all like it is now as a home, we will have to make some changes, real changes in the way we live.
The resitance to eating insects is learned. Many aboriginal cultures eat insects and larvae with delight. In New England we call lobster "bugs" becasue they are not to distant relatives of insects yet they are a modern 1st world delicacy.
How can you look into th eyes of a fellow mammal like a cow and not know there is somethig wrong about murdering it to create a hot dog? I don't believe it is categorically wrong to eat dead mammals but I feel we would be far better off doing it with the reverence that was practiced by Native Americans, not the industrialized holocost of the Nazis. Think of them as your cats and dogs and then enjoy a dogburger.
Yeah I find it difficult to imagine chomping down on a mouthfull of crickets but cricket meal could be made palatable enough so that we wouldn't be immediately aware of it, just like we forget about the screams of a slaughterhouse when we eat red meat. In a generation or two the revulsion to eating insects coud be unlearned. Our grandchildren might look at our eating practices with horror and revulsion far worse than the disinclination we have to eating bugs.
And DAK, you were fortunate. Your bedbugs were contained to a trailer. That's a friendlier kill box/ battle ground than a 4 bedroom colonial or an apartment in a high rise full of apartments and transient neighbors. That's no slight to your efforts though.
You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
I thought my point was that theres so much space garbage and littering could become a non-existent problem. For everyone. And Im not saying I would make this law if I was president of Mars. I just like astronomy and thinking about all the possibility's and challenges that come with exploring outside our planet. Look at all the garbage we have piled up here. Its nasty. I think with enough space around in which humanity will never come close to exploring, why not get rid of it to where its just microns in the universe instead of have it piling up on your planet. But maybe we will get to a point where we can recycle or reuse just about everything and this wont matter.
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
I thought my point was that theres so much space garbage and littering could become a non-existent problem. For everyone. And Im not saying I would make this law if I was president of Mars. I just like astronomy and thinking about all the possibility's and challenges that come with exploring outside our planet. Look at all the garbage we have piled up here. Its nasty. I think with enough space around in which humanity will never come close to exploring, why not get rid of it to where its just microns in the universe instead of have it piling up on your planet. But maybe we will get to a point where we can recycle or reuse just about everything and this wont matter.
Lol. Any "trash" we would toss into space must first be manufactured on Earth, then shot into space. It ain't like there are Wendy's drive-though's on Mars or laong the way, either.
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
I thought my point was that theres so much space garbage and littering could become a non-existent problem. For everyone. And Im not saying I would make this law if I was president of Mars. I just like astronomy and thinking about all the possibility's and challenges that come with exploring outside our planet. Look at all the garbage we have piled up here. Its nasty. I think with enough space around in which humanity will never come close to exploring, why not get rid of it to where its just microns in the universe instead of have it piling up on your planet. But maybe we will get to a point where we can recycle or reuse just about everything and this wont matter.
Lol. Any "trash" we would toss into space must first be manufactured on Earth, then shot into space. It ain't like there are Wendy's drive-though's on Mars or laong the way, either.
Yea but once we colonize Mars there will be trash. And there will be a Rallys not a Wendy's on the way there.
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
I thought my point was that theres so much space garbage and littering could become a non-existent problem. For everyone. And Im not saying I would make this law if I was president of Mars. I just like astronomy and thinking about all the possibility's and challenges that come with exploring outside our planet. Look at all the garbage we have piled up here. Its nasty. I think with enough space around in which humanity will never come close to exploring, why not get rid of it to where its just microns in the universe instead of have it piling up on your planet. But maybe we will get to a point where we can recycle or reuse just about everything and this wont matter.
Lol. Any "trash" we would toss into space must first be manufactured on Earth, then shot into space. It ain't like there are Wendy's drive-though's on Mars or laong the way, either.
Yea but once we colonize Mars there will be trash. And there will be a Rallys not a Wendy's on the way there.
Bro the next time I shift into warp-drive and my plasma jets get clogged up with some Wendy's bullshit, I'm coming after YOU.
Burn it or eat it for dessert or something, other beings shouldn't be left responsible for your refuse. They call this "personal responsibility" - tough concept, I know..
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You can have this planet. I got a plan to save up enough for that ticket to mars. Then we can just jump planets and not worry about being eco friendly. Throwing litter out the window without feeling bad about it seems awesome.
What makes you think Martians are down for cleaning up your trash?
Its just gonna float out in space. Plus theres multi-verses. With so much space and so many problems, we can just erase the subject of littering as a dispute.
Floating around in space is better than laying on the ground? I think it would make it WORSE to have garbage floating around in the air.
Your logic sounds very Republican (ie, fuck everyone but me). Good luck with that..
I thought my point was that theres so much space garbage and littering could become a non-existent problem. For everyone. And Im not saying I would make this law if I was president of Mars. I just like astronomy and thinking about all the possibility's and challenges that come with exploring outside our planet. Look at all the garbage we have piled up here. Its nasty. I think with enough space around in which humanity will never come close to exploring, why not get rid of it to where its just microns in the universe instead of have it piling up on your planet. But maybe we will get to a point where we can recycle or reuse just about everything and this wont matter.
Lol. Any "trash" we would toss into space must first be manufactured on Earth, then shot into space. It ain't like there are Wendy's drive-though's on Mars or laong the way, either.
Yea but once we colonize Mars there will be trash. And there will be a Rallys not a Wendy's on the way there.
Bro the next time I shift into warp-drive and my plasma jets get clogged up with some Wendy's bullshit, I'm coming after YOU.
Burn it or eat it for dessert or something, other beings shouldn't be left responsible for your refuse. They call this "personal responsibility" - tough concept, I know..
Lmaao. Nice.
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Or the next time my vehicle runs into a 0.5g piece of debris at 20km/sec.
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Or the next time my vehicle runs into a 0.5g piece of debris at 20km/sec.
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Yea that shit is crazy. Everything about space and its studies blows my mind. Some now theorize the black hole may have made the universe. The question of what would happen if you could build something strong enough to withstand a black holes gravity and make it through to the other side messes with my mind on a daily basis almost. I mean literally space and the fabric of time start to warp. I just want fucking answers!