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Core Topics => Men Only Please => Topic started by: Anti-hero on October 28, 2015, 11:40:12 PM
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Hey man's,
So HeAd really likes to pick my black heads on my back. Sometimes to the point of where it's painful. She uses the back of the inside off a ink stick and push down on them to get the head to pop out. Just a strange thing she likes to do. She isn't the only girl who I had who did it. It's not like I got allot of them any way.
I use a hand towel to wash my back so I can scrub it really good. She only does it like once a month and there are only like three when she does.
It's just she is like OCD over this one thing. Any one else. Just for that matter. Any one else who has a girl who is OCD over something?
Anything?
Just a guy question
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Have her get a blackhead remover. They sell them in the cosmetics aisles next to the tweezers, nail clippers, cuticle scissors, etc.
One end is for blackheads, and one is for whiteheads.
Also, it's best to remove them when you're just out of the shower, when the skin is still moist and supple, and the warmth has loosened the blackheads. At the very least you should wash the area with warm, soapy water before trying to remove them.
I've heard of people liking to do this. It's not compulsive skin-picking. It's just that some people like grooming, and removing blemishes from skin. I forget the exact term for it.
As for girls who do OCD things, I can't comment on that. LOL.
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Some other ways to remove blackheads (painlessly) is to use pore clearing strips, masks (you can use them on other areas besides the face), facial scrubs that exfoliate and gently remove oily buildup, facial toners, and other pore clearing / refining products.
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Hey man's,
So HeAd really likes to pick my black heads on my back. Sometimes to the point of where it's painful. She uses the back of the inside off a ink stick and push down on them to get the head to pop out. Just a strange thing she likes to do. She isn't the only girl who I had who did it. It's not like I got allot of them any way.
I use a hand towel to wash my back so I can scrub it really good. She only does it like once a month and there are only like three when she does.
It's just she is like OCD over this one thing. Any one else. Just for that matter. Any one else who has a girl who is OCD over something?
Anything?
Just a guy question
If she does it once a month it isn't OCD at all. In fact, I think it is pretty much normal primate behaviour to "groom" your mate. I've had a few serious GFs and they did it for me. We jokingly called it "Girlfriend Duty."
Nark is right about the blackhead tool. And keep it clean/sterile to avoid skin infections.
BTW, spend $2 or $3 on a long-handled "back brush." They work great for scrubbing hard to reach spots while bathing.
Add to that: your girl continues to impress me.
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So, what do you guys use to shave? I used to buy a store version (knock-off) of the Mach 3 until the store decided to make a subtle change that made the cartridges tough to clean yet easy to clog. Sadly, it appeared to be a money-grab; the old handle was no longer available and of course, the new cartridges weren't compatible with the original handle. So the store figured they could sell every customer a new handle/starter set if they implemented a sudden redesign.
It's been a year or two since the redesign, and I've been buying a few different disposable razors. Some are better than others, but I haven't yet found a go-to blade.
I love the concept of The Dollar Shave Club, but I hate the fact that they plan to charge my debit card each month. It's cheap as hell, but I have ADHD and prefer to pay my bills manually, and purchase my razors in bulk (if possible). Since that's not really an option, those cheap razors wouldn't be so economical if I ever forget to keep money in the checking account come billing time, due to overdraft fees. This was one situation where I wish I still used credit cards.
My other idea is switching to a safety razor. Among the over-priced cartridge refill packs, most stores also offer a brand or two of safety razor (refill) blades. The price tag? $2-4! Unfortunately, few stores carry handles for the safety razors. I think Walmart has a Pawn Stars endorsed handle and stand (which seemed silly to me, the endorsement, that is) for $19.99, and I think one other store sold a very similar looking handle (no stand and no silly PS endorsement) for the same price.
So, guys... what do you use? Any input for me? 3-blade razors seem to be best for my shaving habits; I shave my face almost every day and under my arms, between my legs and sometimes my chest and stomach (if it matters). I know my T-levels are currently down as the body hair is a lot thinner and slower growing lately. But that's a story for a different time/place!
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The only thing milly's mother exhibits OCD over is telling me how useless I am
God forbid a day,an hour should go by without her letting me know I'm a dreadful sinner.
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Blackhead remover---still fuckin' hurts IMO. Maybe I'm just a puss.
My girl digs at 'em with the pointed end of some tweezers, so yea I feel ur pain.
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So, what do you guys use to shave? I used to buy a store version (knock-off) of the Mach 3 until the store decided to make a subtle change that made the cartridges tough to clean yet easy to clog. Sadly, it appeared to be a money-grab; the old handle was no longer available and of course, the new cartridges weren't compatible with the original handle. So the store figured they could sell every customer a new handle/starter set if they implemented a sudden redesign.
It's been a year or two since the redesign, and I've been buying a few different disposable razors. Some are better than others, but I haven't yet found a go-to blade.
I love the concept of The Dollar Shave Club, but I hate the fact that they plan to charge my debit card each month. It's cheap as hell, but I have ADHD and prefer to pay my bills manually, and purchase my razors in bulk (if possible). Since that's not really an option, those cheap razors wouldn't be so economical if I ever forget to keep money in the checking account come billing time, due to overdraft fees. This was one situation where I wish I still used credit cards.
My other idea is switching to a safety razor. Among the over-priced cartridge refill packs, most stores also offer a brand or two of safety razor (refill) blades. The price tag? $2-4! Unfortunately, few stores carry handles for the safety razors. I think Walmart has a Pawn Stars endorsed handle and stand (which seemed silly to me, the endorsement, that is) for $19.99, and I think one other store sold a very similar looking handle (no stand and no silly PS endorsement) for the same price.
So, guys... what do you use? Any input for me? 3-blade razors seem to be best for my shaving habits; I shave my face almost every day and under my arms, between my legs and sometimes my chest and stomach (if it matters). I know my T-levels are currently down as the body hair is a lot thinner and slower growing lately. But that's a story for a different time/place!
I use the women's Venus
They are great.
Plus if you clean your blades
Then sick the head in oil
Baby or cooking
I find they stay sharper.
I can't grow a full beard
So there is that.
The facial hair I do have it's very
Thick it is grey too
Makes me look so old.
I sure am glad this it's a
men only thread.
Cause the women would find out how vain I am
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Blackhead remover---still fuckin' hurts IMO. Maybe I'm just a puss.
My girl digs at 'em with the pointed end of some tweezers, so yea I feel ur pain.
I know right it's like
I front care if I dug through
His back and can see his heart
I almost got it out
We have used the blackhead remover but I find if you use the cartridge of a ink pen . Put the end around the head and push it pops it up to where you can just squeeze it out.
When she trys to squeeze them.
They go in
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Electric. Norelco 3 Head shaver.
When I was on the verge of being of shaving age I worked for a rich older man but one who had begun life as a deck hand on a cargo ship BEFORE WW2. He asked me what I thought I would do about shaving when the time came. (I know hard to describe the context)
I started giving what I thought was a reasoned reply (based on what I knew from advertising really) about "well, electric is more convenient but I guess with blades you get a smoother face..."
"Smoother face!? ... Whatta you want to be, a woman?"
One of the nicer innovations is the electrics that work on wet, lathered beard. You can use them in the shower and it's done in a flash and smooth as any blade I ever used.
BTW, one thing every man should do at least once is get a (real) barber's shave. Hot towel, scalp massage you walk out feeling like a man's man and pampered at the same time.
Also, it would be kinda cool if this thread was password protected like the woman's. I have some things I'd like to discuss from a male point of view and it has nothing negative to do about women. A little brotherhood goes a long way.
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I'm with deadcat I use a Norelco electric razor and it works pretty good. I only have to shave once a week for my job and it doesn't have to be super clean so it works well for me. I suck at shaving so I get pretty much the same results without the little cuts and razor burns. I usually look like I got in a fight with freddy kruger after trying to shave with a razor. I have really shaky hands and I am pretty sure I have parkinsosn disease because if I try to hold something still I usually twitch out and drop a bunch of shit.
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Yea Chipper can we have a pass word?
@ Griffin you really should try the woman's 3 blade Venus
I guess@ Deadcat too
I don't use electric because there is a difference.
I like the lather and blade
If not go the barber way like dead cat said. That should be on every man's bucket list.
Like a facial for men. Would do that every week if there was a barber who did it around.
It didn't grow back as fast either.
I shave once a week anyway.
I wish I could but I can grow a manly beard it doesn't fill in on the cheeks.
I can grow a sick goatee.
Long enough to be able to twist it or pony tail.
I guess I don't have enough Northern European genes.
So pass word? Because there are somethings I would like to discuss with my guy friends.
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Hero you and Heads black-Head routine fetish reminds me of an ex who we both loved to pop each other's pimples. She was the one who took my butterfly kisses virginity from me. If ya'll don't know what that is look it up, may be cheesy but the women seem to enjoy it very much. I specifically remember popping a huge pimple on her forehead while we were sitting in a bar which for some reason turned are weird asses on so much that it led to making sweet sweet lovey dovey in the parking lot in my old F-150. Ahhh good times. Anyways I got mad sensitive skin especially my neck but I usually keep a trimmed beard so I really only used clipper now adays. If I have to shave I take a warm shower before hand, lather my face up with a bunch of cream and I can only use a fresh razor. Otherwise I get little ass annoying rash like pimple things.
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Maybe i'm missing the joke and if I am, hay, that's on me.
But do we really need to relitigate why women only feel comfortable discussing certain issues with only wome?
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Well there are somethings I still do that I don't want to share with HeAd.
Also some of her actions I wonder.
I try and be sensitive, but sometimes she speaks only female. I sleek only male.
I have never looked in the women's only thread. I respect their privacy.
Think asking the same. Maybe we want to share something about our self that we don't want to share with them.
Low T?
How to make her day. Guys can be unsinsative(sp?) And don't one to come off that way.
Shit I might want to ask what do you think they are talking about?
Having a coed and women's only
Does not afford us the same privacy they have.
Not that I dint like women but I am sure they dint want to read about my dingle berrys
Let's try it and see what's discussed.
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Can't we find something better to talk about than women who like to pop our zits? I mean COME ON! That's nuckin' fasty!
I use plain old Safeway brand double blade disposable joints and Nivea Men Sensitive Skin shave cream. Comes in a metal tube, like toothpaste but only a metal tube. Those Krauts really know how to make shaving products! I find that the shave is in the cream that you use, not the particular shaving implement that you use.
Why, when I was in prison, they used to sell these shitty little Bic single blade joints for $0.30 each. And the only shave cream available was some stuff that was just like the Nivea Sensitive Skin cream that I currently use, except it came in a plastic tube (comprised mostly of straight stearic acid). Really thick, white stuff. You only need like a dab the size of two peas to cover your whole face. That's some of the best shaves I ever had, and still with the Nivea stuff I currently use.
So, dudes, what about those crazy womenfolk? Huh? What's their fuckin deal? Can't figger 'em out to save my life.
Yeah, Hero, I feel ya there. I hooked up with this totally crazy slutty woman on Plenty of Fish last year, and after we had sex, she said, "hey let me look at your asshole." I was like "uh, no!" (I know I saw yours when were doing it doggy but still, that's flimmits!)
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Can't we find something better to talk about than women who like to pop our zits? I mean COME ON! That's nuckin' fasty!
I use plain old Safeway brand double blade disposable joints and Nivea Men Sensitive Skin shave cream. Comes in a metal tube, like toothpaste but only a metal tube. Those Krauts really know how to make shaving products! I find that the shave is in the cream that you use, not the particular shaving implement that you use.
Why, when I was in prison, they used to sell these shitty little Bic single blade joints for $0.30 each. And the only shave cream available was some stuff that was just like the Nivea Sensitive Skin cream that I currently use, except it came in a plastic tube (comprised mostly of straight stearic acid). Really thick, white stuff. You only need like a dab the size of two peas to cover your whole face. That's some of the best shaves I ever had, and still with the Nivea stuff I currently use.
So, dudes, what about those crazy womenfolk? Huh? What's their fuckin deal? Can't figger 'em out to save my life.
Yeah, Hero, I feel ya there. I hooked up with this totally crazy slutty woman on Plenty of Fish last year, and after we had sex, she said, "hey let me look at your asshole." I was like "uh, no!" (I know I saw yours when were doing it doggy but still, that's flimmits!)
Heyyy easy zoops just trying to bring our bro only zone in with a bang lol no need to get your panties in a bundle. But yea women be crazy these days I don't know everyone here that well yet but it seems like Hero mind have the biggest understanding or at least most knowledge into sustaining quite the relationship. Haven't been to the women's thread yet, didn't even think about it. Prolly never will but who knows what's going on up in there. Maybe lots of talk on kitten mittens, glitter, and puppy videos I suppose. But on a serious note I think both threads are cool and each sex will hopefully gain from the environment may it be knowledge, jokes, or help digging into the jigsaw puzzle of the opposite sex. Either way this site is really opening up and I think it will just get better and more interesting as it goes with the wide variety of similar yet different good people that are on this forum.
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I use a rusty bowie knife. Dry. Get on my level guys.
In reality I barely have a beard even though I'm in my mid 30s. I shave twice a week with whatever and it seems to work. A guy I work with shaves with hair clippers for that rough look.
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I'm just winging it when it comes to long term relationships.
If I don't get another guy to talk to.
Ya know mansplaining things to me. I really hate that term and think it's hate talk.
I don't want a password as code for misogyny.
Like I said would like to ask about my dingle berrys.
Like when I was in the hospital this female doctor wanted to examine me by her self. I was like no you need to get a male nurse.
Don't know why Its taboo to asked to be treated equal. I think everyone should be. Just cause some corporate asshat makes the rules doesn't mean I gotta give up my self respect.
I grew up with out a dad so guy talk. There are some younger guys who want to know how to go about things and not have to expose there self.
Any how, Using duct tape is great for cleaning your pours. Put on your nose and peal off
Ya know if I had a little boy I don't think I would let them circomsize the little guy
Cause it's like piercing ears something that they can do later in life. I don't want to make that choice for them.
So hope all you guys are ok.
Best hero
@Illiadelph
Yea the only reason I have been in a relationship so long is mostly her so thanks for the props.
Just not me.
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So, what do you guys use to shave? I used to buy a store version (knock-off) of the Mach 3 until the store decided to make a subtle change that made the cartridges tough to clean yet easy to clog. Sadly, it appeared to be a money-grab; the old handle was no longer available and of course, the new cartridges weren't compatible with the original handle. So the store figured they could sell every customer a new handle/starter set if they implemented a sudden redesign.
It's been a year or two since the redesign, and I've been buying a few different disposable razors. Some are better than others, but I haven't yet found a go-to blade.
I love the concept of The Dollar Shave Club, but I hate the fact that they plan to charge my debit card each month. It's cheap as hell, but I have ADHD and prefer to pay my bills manually, and purchase my razors in bulk (if possible). Since that's not really an option, those cheap razors wouldn't be so economical if I ever forget to keep money in the checking account come billing time, due to overdraft fees. This was one situation where I wish I still used credit cards.
My other idea is switching to a safety razor. Among the over-priced cartridge refill packs, most stores also offer a brand or two of safety razor (refill) blades. The price tag? $2-4! Unfortunately, few stores carry handles for the safety razors. I think Walmart has a Pawn Stars endorsed handle and stand (which seemed silly to me, the endorsement, that is) for $19.99, and I think one other store sold a very similar looking handle (no stand and no silly PS endorsement) for the same price.
So, guys... what do you use? Any input for me? 3-blade razors seem to be best for my shaving habits; I shave my face almost every day and under my arms, between my legs and sometimes my chest and stomach (if it matters). I know my T-levels are currently down as the body hair is a lot thinner and slower growing lately. But that's a story for a different time/place!
Blegh, I hate shaving - but when I let it get too long, it just gets harder to shave. I usually just use cheapo disposables. I've got a nice electric shaver, but it seems to take longer if I'm trying to get a real close shave like I would with a disposable.
I usually don't even use shaving cream unless it's really long or I don't have a sharp blade.
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Ya know if I had a little boy I don't think I would let them circomsize the little guy
Cause it's like piercing ears something that they can do later in life. I don't want to make that choice for them.
Yeah, I was circumcised, so I'm probably biased a bit. The only reason I could see for having it done when you're a baby is the pain factor - I mean, I don't remember it at all - I assume most people wouldn't.
However, if I wasn't circumcised at this point - I highly doubt I'd go through with the procedure unless there was a medical reason for it. I just imagine it to be too painful.
Maybe someone who got circumcised later in life can weigh in here.
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I forgot to mention that I also use hair clippers to maintain my side burns. My hair is sandy blond but my facial hair comes in light blond, brown, and red. I've never actually tried growing a 'stache, goatee, chin strap, or anything other than side burns. I've tried those super thin, short ones but the color is too light to show up. Right now, I have some thick 'burns down to my jawline. I also have high cheek bones (that I don't like), so I grow them out kind of wide to compliment the shape of my face.
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I am circumcised, but my boys aren't. When I was born the argument was for cleanliness, but that is clearly fallacious.
I have been asked by each of them separately why our penii look different while having pee races. None of them understood. Your daddy cut off part of your penis? It doesn't really make much sense to me when I really think about it.
My wife on the other hand has never been with an uncircumcised guy. Funny how it seemed to be a specific generational thing.
My thoughts are that if they want to modify their genitalia they can do it themselves. It's not my business or place to say what's right and wrong for them. Blank canvas of sorts.
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I use the Schick Hydro 5 Sensitive razor cartridges.
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For cream, I either use Aveeno Therapeutic Shave Gel or C. O. Bigelow's (made by Proraso, an Italian company) Shave Cream.
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You can buy the razors and the Aveeno cream at any grocery / big box store. The C. O. Bigelow cream can be bought at Bath and Body Works. It's really not expensive, a little goes a long way, and it lasts a long time. Very good lather, and it has peppermint oil in it to calm the skin.
I hate shaving too. If I could, I'd have permanent hair removal on my face (and other areas). I can't grow a full beard either, which is a bonus IMO. I usually shave once a week. I did today, for example. I won't shave again until next Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on my appointments (I have to go somewhere three days in a row next week, which sucks).
I use a new razor cartridge each time. Yes, you can reuse them obviously, but I find they dull even after one use. I get a closer, less irritated shave if I use a new one. Since I only shave 4 times a month, it's not that bad.
For the first three days after I shave, you can't really tell. The hair growing back is fine and a light blond. It doesn't start to get darker until day 5 or so. You can only tell it's there in the beginning by feeling the stubble.
I had a really nice electric razor a few years ago. I do think it was gentler on the skin (I have sensitive skin), but it never shaved as close like a razor.
I'd go to a barber shop to have a full shave sometime. It would be an event. Something like this. Edward VII went here (Geo F. Trumper's in London) for his shaves.
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I forgot to mention that I also use hair clippers to maintain my side burns. My hair is sandy blond but my facial hair comes in light blond, brown, and red. I've never actually tried growing a 'stache, goatee, chin strap, or anything other than side burns. I've tried those super thin, short ones but the color is too light to show up. Right now, I have some thick 'burns down to my jawline. I also have high cheek bones (that I don't like), so I grow them out kind of wide to compliment the shape of my face.
My hair/facial hair is exactly the same. Sandy blonde on top and then brown/red the further down my face it goes. I keep my sideburns just below my ears.
I've tried growing a mustache, but it always looks really bad. It might be the color or that it doesn't fill in nicely. I can do a goatee kind of, but it still doesn't seem full enough to me.
I wish I could grow a thick ass beard, just to see what it's like, hah.
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@Nark
Really try putting it in oil after you are done.
I does keep them sharp. I don't have to save them. Just frugal, the to stay sharp. It's worth a try.
I know I will never v be able to v grow a full beard. Oh well
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You brought up a good point and a tricky subject Hero. I'm circumsized and I personally am glad I am. Now am I biased because I have always been and that's what was more common growing up? Maybe. It does boil down to cutting baby's genitals right when they enter the world which is kinda mutilation in one way. I know a small percentage of baby's end up getting permanently damaged down there even tho it's small I believe. Most girls like it circumsized but again biased because it's what their used to. I've also "heard" you lose pleasure by taking the skin off so on that case when or is I have a baby boy I will not have them perform it. / The other subject where women don't want men to do some of the tasks/exams on them in the medical field and what not whether it be a physical or something else but it's frowned upon when I ask for a males points of view because they obviously have more knowledge and experience. A double standard that can irritate me for sure.
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My reply disappeared. First my opinion is cut the foreskin as a baby im glad my folks did mine. That would be a discussion me and andy would have to have in the 1 to 1000 cance we had a kid. Make that 1 in two thousand we had a boy. God its misserable trying to shit. I drank salt water put 70 ml of water up my ass along with a suppository. I had a beard but had to cut it off. Scissors and four double bladed disposables.
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.... And the rest of my rely disappeared. Oh well.... It was a wittythank god i finally shit.
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This is more my speed:
Street shave in Mumbai, cost 8 cents.
He rubs his face down with a huge block of camphor afterwards. Nice.
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My grandfather opened a barber shop in the 1960s or 70s, which he ran until retirement (sometime in the 90s). I was quite young when he retired and sold the shop, but I remember spinning on the chairs as a kid. He's currently 84 or 85 and I believe he uses a straight razor to this day. I never inquired, but I've not seen so much as a stray whisker on the man's face. He never even sports any stubble! My mother has some old photos of him sporting a beard, so I know he can grow one.
For the record, I suspect I can grow a decent beard too-- I've just not tried. For those of you who doubt your beard growing abilities, I hear that the thin spots fill in more than you'd think. As the hairs grow, they take up space; a few mm's of length times how many follicles one has is often enough to cover up those sparse areas. It really doesn't have to be long at all. The only problem is the awkward growing phase!
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This is more my speed:
Street shave in Mumbai, cost 8 cents.
He rubs his face down with a huge block of camphor afterwards. Nice.
8 cents? I could definitely get down with that, provided I don't get my throat slashed.
For those of you who doubt your beard growing abilities, I hear that the thin spots fill in more than you'd think. As the hairs grow, they take up space; a few mm's of length times how many follicles one has is often enough to cover up those sparse areas. It really doesn't have to be long at all. The only problem is the awkward growing phase!
I've tried before, but I usually end up shaving it after 2-3 weeks because it looks so bad... maybe if I can leave civilization for a couple months I'll give it a try. hah
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what's the consensus on the Men's Only (locked) board ?
anybody still want it ?
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what's the consensus on the Men's Only (locked) board ?
anybody still want it ?
Time for another poll.
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what's the consensus on the Men's Only (locked) board ?
anybody still want it ?
Time for another poll.
done ... poll added and temp sticky'ed
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Yea
I wanna talk about some things
Like
Dingle berrys
Stage five clingers
Lack of libido
Stockholm syndrome
Other shit that Im not comfortable
Letting the opposite sex know
Ladies care to discuss man scaping
Thought not
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I don't care much for the locked threads as it regards men or women's issues, I think we should have no shame in sharing our experiences, after all that's what this board is for.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HALF-JEWS ONLY SECTION?
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I'll say the same thing I said about the women's only board - I think it's pointless, but if people want it - why not?
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I guess my question would be
are female members of the board able to vote on this poll?
it is most definitely a sticky subject
but i think in terms of fairness
i too would like a place where i could ask questions about mens health
and get responses from specifically men
im a pretty shameless person but there have been times i wished this was an option
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note : DAU reserve the right to remove the board if it starts to become a divisive and/or a potentially damaging influence to the community.
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no need vs. locked are almost tied head-to-head ... exciting.
but we still aren't sure about this. candy thinks it's a bad idea so i now can't promise anything yet.
let's see how the poll goes.
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Yea
I wanna talk about some things
Like
Dingle berrys
Stage five clingers
Lack of libido
Stockholm syndrome
Other shit that Im not comfortable
Letting the opposite sex know
Ladies care to discuss man scaping
Thought not
This. I back this whole heartedly. Well put Hero, well put.
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Gender locked boards are divisive by their nature
The women's only board is also divisive, but women seem to feel uncomfortable talking about some things around men.
Fair enough I guess. The same could be said for men wanting to be seen in a certain light by women. There are things you just don't want to talk about when not around people who understand you.
I just don't see how a men's only board would be divisive, and a women's only board isn't. Maybe I am missing something in my male privilege. It wouldn't be the first time, but if someone can explain it then I am happy to listen.
Could the boards be made read only, and require a password to post? I think the big issue is people feeling excluded.
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Yes, but lock it down (i.e., password).
I don't see what the problem with gender-specific boards. Most people know (or should know) that women sometimes prefer to speak only to women about certain issues. The same with men IMO. Things that are extremely personal and specific to only that gender.
I don't think this will result in misogyny or division among members. Even if it did, the admins / Founders could put a stop to it. They will inevitably be monitoring the posts in these threads / sub-forums.
Concerning the women's-only thread / sub-forum: things may have recently changed, but I didn't notice much action on there when I was an admin. I never posted there, but I occasionally looked in to make sure nothing was amiss. I only ever saw a few threads, and only a few posts. I got the impression that a lot of the female members weren't using it. As I said though, things may have changed the past few weeks.
I can't see the men's-only thread / sub-forum getting a lot of action either. Maybe more than the women's thread / sub-forum in the beginning. But I think it will eventually die down.
Speaking personally for myself only, I'm not entirely sure I'd feel comfortable posting certain things in the men's-only thread / sub-forum. I've never felt comfortable talking with only men. I grew up around women, and have always felt more comfortable talking to women. If anything, I'd rather ask for advice from women than men. And some things I wouldn't feel comfortable asking / posting about on here at all, from either men or women.
That does go against the purpose of this board. Ideally people should feel comfortable posting anything on here without fear of judgement or retributions. Unfortunately I think it's a little too soon for everyone to feel that way though. The taint from Opiophile, and how things were there, is still too strong IMO.
People might assume that by posting highly personal subjects on here that they'd be judged or ridiculed like they were over there at times. Hopefully that sense of vulnerability will decrease over time.
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we share the same view.
ideally, it would be mainly used to discuss embarrassing men only "conditions" or something appropriate.
*bump*
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Ok, first & foremost, Im giving my opinion as a member here. I think people are forgetting some facts about the women's subforum:
It was Candy's brainchild and a great idea. Unfortunately some guys posted and either derailed with crude and/or rude remarks that were really inappropriate OR generally took over the women's conversation(s). A lot.
To give Nark credit, although he did indeed post there multiple times, when he was politely reminded that it had finally been requested the guys just read IN ONE THREAD (not the whole subforum), Nark graciously apologized and refrained. Unfortunately, other male members, continued to disrupt the conversations and threads with offensive remarks and commentary, and women stopped posting as it certainly wasn't a place they felt comfortable. For the rest of the subforum, men were not prohibited from reading AND posting.
It wasn't until AFTER all this that a password was implemented.
What I would suggest is female members be given the same opportunity the men enjoyed in the women's subforum. IF women disrupt the men only subforum, THEN a password should be instituted. Treat us with the same courtesy and opportunity the men initially had with the women's section. This way, if it doesn't work, no one should feel they're being treated unevenly.
Just my opinion & I certainly hope this doesn't turn into some big "thing". All I'm asking is that we treat each other as equally as possible.
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Ok, first & foremost, Im giving my opinion as a member here. I think people are forgetting some facts about the women's subforum:
It was Candy's brainchild and a great idea. Unfortunately some guys posted and either derailed with crude and/or rude remarks that were really inappropriate OR generally took over the women's conversation(s). A lot.
To give Nark credit, although he did indeed post there multiple times, when he was politely reminded that it had finally been requested the guys just read IN ONE THREAD (not the whole subforum), Nark graciously apologized and refrained. Unfortunately, other male members, continued to disrupt the conversations and threads with offensive remarks and commentary, and women stopped posting as it certainly wasn't a place they felt comfortable. For the rest of the subforum, men were not prohibited from reading AND posting.
It wasn't until AFTER all this that a password was implemented.
What I would suggest is female members be given the same opportunity the men enjoyed in the women's subforum. IF women disrupt the men only subforum, THEN a password should be instituted. Treat us with the same courtesy and opportunity the men initially had with the women's section. This way, if it doesn't work, no one should feel they're being treated unevenly.
Just my opinion & I certainly hope this doesn't turn into some big "thing". All I'm asking is that we treat each other as equally as possible.
Wait, I thought the women's only sub-forum was password protected from the get-go and only women/mods/admins were able to browse it. Am I wrong?
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I voted for no password. I find the password system cumbersome, and a barrier to entry that is unnecessary.
I think that this is part of the problem:
(https://forum.drugs-and-users.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fwhen-girls-have-sleepovers.jpg&hash=fea334474bef546a1a7cee0da4415ee4039fce8f)
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Ok, first & foremost, Im giving my opinion as a member here. I think people are forgetting some facts about the women's subforum:
It was Candy's brainchild and a great idea. Unfortunately some guys posted and either derailed with crude and/or rude remarks that were really inappropriate OR generally took over the women's conversation(s). A lot.
To give Nark credit, although he did indeed post there multiple times, when he was politely reminded that it had finally been requested the guys just read IN ONE THREAD (not the whole subforum), Nark graciously apologized and refrained. Unfortunately, other male members, continued to disrupt the conversations and threads with offensive remarks and commentary, and women stopped posting as it certainly wasn't a place they felt comfortable. For the rest of the subforum, men were not prohibited from reading AND posting.
It wasn't until AFTER all this that a password was implemented.
What I would suggest is female members be given the same opportunity the men enjoyed in the women's subforum. IF women disrupt the men only subforum, THEN a password should be instituted. Treat us with the same courtesy and opportunity the men initially had with the women's section. This way, if it doesn't work, no one should feel they're being treated unevenly.
Just my opinion & I certainly hope this doesn't turn into some big "thing". All I'm asking is that we treat each other as equally as possible.
Wait, I thought the women's only sub-forum was password protected from the get-go and only women/mods/admins were able to browse it. Am I wrong?
The password wasn't created until after several problems with male members derailing & really offensive comments. Basically, there was no other way to put a stop to it, which is pretty sad. But initially, (I'll use my thread as an example here): guys & their input was welcomed.
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I completely understand men's need for a place to discuss men's things. No joke, I always felt more respected when the men in my life went elsewhere to say or discuss topics that would offend me. Women, too say things that could be construed as offensive to men so I have no problem with everyone having their own spot and the real meat in the middle, if you will.
But I'm one of those weird folks so I guess take it however you want. My vote is however the guys want it.
When I found myself clicking on the guys thread and reading some kind of personal stuff, I got embarrassed and I'm sorry if I invaded anyone's privacy. Everyone deserves privacy.
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I will put
though out there before.
Cause HeAd v is already on to it
Cause head has caught on to this one.
When I do things that I know she doesn't approved of
Like meth, crack, disrepairing for days.
I will put this dumb look.on.my face and be like what I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that.was not to it and but it worked for b like 7 years.
If you b haven't tried it I recommend you do.
it worked for a while.
I a.m. not saying that she shouldn't be concerned.
I got a bad liver ,heart, digestive system.
So she is just looking out for me.
.and cause I love her I don't try it as much anymore
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I share zystyl's viewpoint. boards that are closed off to certain groups of people just seem unnecessary and are inherently divisive.
I was all for the men's only board at first, as a joke, just because I thought it was extremely unnecessary,
if it had a purpose it was just to balance out the womens only board.
I think theres more of a need/want for a womens section than a man's.
women go to the bathroom in packs. men dont. this situation seems like an internet version of that.
i fully support it. i wish we would all have thicker skin and just respect each other but I fully support it.
but as a man, cmon dudes, is a manzone really necessary? what would we talk about that we already dont?
dingleberries, stage5clingers, golddiggers, giant poops....this is normal convo as it is.
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50-50 split. there's nothing in it. what a tense poll. excitement.
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It's totally unnecessary and needlessly divisive. We made an exception for a women's only board because we thought providing somewhere for women to feel comfortable sharing sensitive issues outweighed dividing the community-I just don't see the need for men.
If we go down this road where does it stop? Seperate racially and sexuality defined locked boards?A board for the left handed? How about a vegan only board?
If we do this we stop being a community.
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It's totally unnecessary and needlessly divisive. We made an exception for a women's only board because we thought providing somewhere for women to feel comfortable sharing sensitive issues outweighed dividing the community-I just don't see the need for men.
If we go down this road where does it stop? Seperate racially and sexuality defined locked boards?A board for the left handed? How about a vegan only board?
If we do this we stop being a community.
Totally agree, the last thing this community needs is to be marginalized further.
If it's really so personal that it can't be posted on the open board, then what's wrong with PM? I truly can't think of anything I personally wouldn't want the women folk to read, but that I couldn't just PM to a guy friend here. Like if it's truly that personal, then maybe an Internet forum isn't the place for it?
The purpose here is community, no? Or am I missing something??
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how about banning offending members from that thread instead of a general fuck off to all guys in general?
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how about banning offending members from that thread instead of a general fuck off to all guys in general?
I share this thought, it just seems more fair. I mean, I never even knew the women's only thread was at some point not password protected, so I never got a chance to see the offensive posts from male members nor did I get a chance to show restraint and not make offensive posts.
Also, I saw this today on reddit and thought it was topical somewhat.
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It's totally unnecessary and needlessly divisive. We made an exception for a women's only board because we thought providing somewhere for women to feel comfortable sharing sensitive issues outweighed dividing the community-I just don't see the need for men.
If we go down this road where does it stop? Seperate racially and sexuality defined locked boards?A board for the left handed? How about a vegan only board?
If we do this we stop being a community.
I agree, but I also think that means there shouldn't be a women's only forum. I didn't like the idea to begin with because it seemed divisive, but if there is a women's only forum it only seems right/fair to have a men's only forum. Even if it doesn't get used. Equality and all that.
We won't have to go further than that (vegan only, left-hand only, etc), but in my eyes it's either separate boards for each sex or not - you can't just give it to one sex and not the other. It seems sexist.
The whole idea of *sex* only type boards is offensive because it implies that all men or all women are going to behave in a certain (read, offensive) way and that simply isn't true.
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Ok, first & foremost, Im giving my opinion as a member here. I think people are forgetting some facts about the women's subforum:
It was Candy's brainchild and a great idea. Unfortunately some guys posted and either derailed with crude and/or rude remarks that were really inappropriate OR generally took over the women's conversation(s). A lot.
To give Nark credit, although he did indeed post there multiple times, when he was politely reminded that it had finally been requested the guys just read IN ONE THREAD (not the whole subforum), Nark graciously apologized and refrained. Unfortunately, other male members, continued to disrupt the conversations and threads with offensive remarks and commentary, and women stopped posting as it certainly wasn't a place they felt comfortable. For the rest of the subforum, men were not prohibited from reading AND posting.
It wasn't until AFTER all this that a password was implemented.
What I would suggest is female members be given the same opportunity the men enjoyed in the women's subforum. IF women disrupt the men only subforum, THEN a password should be instituted. Treat us with the same courtesy and opportunity the men initially had with the women's section. This way, if it doesn't work, no one should feel they're being treated unevenly.
Just my opinion & I certainly hope this doesn't turn into some big "thing". All I'm asking is that we treat each other as equally as possible.
I was referring to not posting AFTER the password was implemented. After the password was implemented, I did NOT post.
As for my posting prior to the password, yes, I did. I did before men were asked not to reply, as well as after they were asked not to reply. Why? I posted before because others were. It was an open topic.
I did after b/c the "men shouldn't post" rule wasn't being applied equally. You don't get to pick and choose which men get to reply and which don't. IIRC, Enduser replied with a sarcastic joke. I then replied with a joke about a gurl needing to get a vibrator in response to one of DoD's posts. Then you chimed in that I shouldn't be posting b/c I wasn't qualified to give advice on sex concerning women.
I wasn't giving advice. I would have thought it was obvious I was making a joke when I purposefully spelled girl as gurl. Apparently not. After my reply, however, a few other men replied. Jega was one, for instance. Somehow they weren't told to "keep quiet." I find that hypocritical. Again, if you make a blanket rule like "no men can post," you don't get to pick and choose who that applies to.
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Dividing the site is not going to happen.
The women's only section was not meant to discriminate against the men of this site, but to give the ladies here a place to post where they could feel safe.
Women do have specific needs and are marginalized when it comes to addiction
Women are vulnerable to a list of problems that are associated with addiction and if we can offer them a place here where they
can share with other women and feel safe to do so, then we have met that goal.
I don't have a problem with the men having a section to discuss their own problems or issues they may be facing, but not if it is only in response to the women having their own password protected area.
We want nothing more than this board to be a democracy, but this area for women only is not meant to prove a point or to stir up a discussion on dividing the board, it is a place for women to discuss the many issues that they may not feel comfortable discussing with the men here.
Now, why is this such an issue.
Do the men here really want an area for themselves, password protected, or is this just about equality?
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Now, why is this such an issue.
Do the men here really want an area for themselves, password protected, or is this just about equality?
I just don't understand why the women need this any more than the men (neither need it, imo, but if you're going to have one - you should have both). Are you saying women are inherently thinner-skinned than men when it comes to "rude" or "offensive" comments?
I don't even see why that would be an issue to begin with though. If someone is being outright offensive or rude, warn them and delete the comment!
This is about equality, to be honest. As I said before, by locking a certain sex out of a certain forum you're assuming that the entirety of that sex is going to act in a foul way and that isn't fair.
I'd honestly be curious about certain women's issues, why should I be denied that right because a few individuals decided to post things the women of this board didn't like?
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I think that it's about privacy such as discussing male "plumbing" issues etc.
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Lol me and hero should get 5 voes each and the ryan like2.5
Im a dick i know...but i think its funny..
Btw i didnt vote. . its whatever.
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Seriously, I think Mr. Elevated crystallized my thoughts quite well. Why would you say that one sex needs to have a protected forum, but the other doesn't? That's just plain unfair. And it's specifically unfair to WOMEN, suggesting by inference that they need to have protected status and men don't. This is the internet, and physical strength or size are meaningless here. Oh but the poor, downtrodden and weak females of the species need to have their own little special place where they can talk about their periods, chronic never ending UTIs and being constipated...Imagine!
I'd like to be able to talk about "nocturnal emissions" fer crissake without inspiring giggles from the back row.
And if the men's secret forum just doesn't get used as much, then that's our prerogative, but at least give us a level playing field.
It doesn't cost anything extra.
Double standards fucking piss me off.
Like this is the first time I've ever commented on this thread (I think), but I should have the option, if need be, or if I just simply want to vent to just dudes about a specific, sexually-based problem, or even crow about a recent conquest I've made, I should be able to. Away from the prying eyes of our dear female counterparts, that is (and those eyes can be pretty damn prying, sometimes).
Then we can talk about all the sick sexually perverted issues that plague us, without fear of reproach, inspiring discord, or just plain disgust. LOL, Jk on the sick sexually perverted stuff.
Oh, and one more thing and I'll stop modifying my post - what's with all the people who refuse to identify with a gender? Do we have that many neuter people on here?
cis male and proud of it - represent!
And since when should a women get to have a say in whether or not men get their own subforum?
And also I don't think making a men's only board would start us down the road to lefties only, Geminis only, ad infinitum. That's just silly to suggest.
Of course men's only topics wouldn't be nearly as popular with the men of the community as women's only topics are with the women but who does that hurt? Nobody. I can completely understand why women would want their own private space to discuss whatever they want, but it just smacks of sexism to not give the same privilege to men.
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Seriously, I think Mr. Elevated crystallized my thoughts quite well. Why would you say that one sex needs to have a protected forum, but the other doesn't? That's just plain unfair. And it's specifically unfair to WOMEN, suggesting by inference that they need to have protected status and men don't. This is the internet, and physical strength or size are meaningless here. Oh but the poor, downtrodden and weak females of the species need to have their own little special place where they can talk about their periods, chronic never ending UTIs and being constipated...Imagine!
I'd like to be able to talk about "nocturnal emissions" fer crissake without inspiring giggles from the back row.
And if the men's secret forum just doesn't get used as much, then that's our prerogative, but at least give us a level playing field.
It doesn't cost anything extra.
Double standards fucking piss me off.
Like this is the first time I've ever commented on this thread (I think), but I should have the option, if need be, or if I just simply want to vent to just dudes about a specific, sexually-based problem, or even crow about a recent conquest I've made, I should be able to. Away from the prying eyes of our dear female counterparts, that is (and those eyes can be pretty damn prying, sometimes).
Then we can talk about all the sick sexually perverted issues that plague us, without fear of reproach, inspiring discord, or just plain disgust. LOL, Jk on the sick sexually perverted stuff.
Oh, and one more thing and I'll stop modifying my post - what's with all the people who refuse to identify with a gender? Do we have that many neuter people on here?
cis male and proud of it - represent!
And since when should a women get to have a say in whether or not men get their own subforum?
And also I don't think making a men's only board would start us down the road to lefties only, Geminis only, ad infinitum. That's just silly to suggest.
Of course men's only topics wouldn't be nearly as popular with the men of the community as women's only topics are with the women but who does that hurt? Nobody. I can completely understand why women would want their own private space to discuss whatever they want, but it just smacks of sexism to not give the same privilege to men.
Zoops i like and respect you. But I cant agree with your remarks about women's needing their own special little place to discuss UTI's etc. That's just missing the point.
We didnt start out the gate with a password. It was only after multiple REQUESTS that the derails, crude offensive remarks were ignored that it happened. Because those request were ignored and no meaningful dialogue could happen. Im sorry that some guys just can't see it, but the reality is that certain topics for us women in this community like infest, rape, pregnancy and the like are VERY sensitive.
I'll give a hypothetical (based on some of the comments that KEPT happening) example based on reality--
Female member is asking about breast feeding her baby (may or may not have to do w/while in active addiction). Starts to get feedback from other women who have breastfed etc. Some guys come in and the catcalls etc about liking big tits etc start. And don't stop.
How likely is a female addict going to feel comfortable reaching out for feedback on getting out of sex work while supporting a toddler as a single mom after reading stuff like in my example? What about those who are addicted and in an abusive relationship and rely on the guy for drugs/money etc? When the derails happen, the focus is taken away from the one asking for advice/feedback etc and after awhile, a lot of us women just stopped trying to go against the tide. Remember, the ratio of men to women here is pretty large; i believe it was 7:1 when the password was finally put up.
I completely understand some guys saying its not "fair", but one of two things happened to cause this stink imo. Either you read the comments and said nothing. OR you didn't read them and have no idea what was posted before a password was finally put in place. And despite what I think are very clear reasons this exception was made, those who say "i don't get it" may never. All I ask is that folks reflect on being a pregnant addict or other unique to women situations & consider that even if one doesn't "get it", doesn't make "it" invalid and something to be mocked.
Many, many of the men here are great, and I respect and get a lot out of what they have to say. However, women ARE marginalized. Consider this: how many times just in the last *week* has someone posted "cunt", "thundercunt", "that stupid bitch" and on and on here? It's so common no one blinks.
But my feeling is if you were asked IRL if you'd let/support someone speaking that way to or about women, and your (not you personally Zoops; generally speaking) answer is "oh no, I respect women and wouldn't tolerate that" or some such, why is it different here?
I IN NO WAY FEEL THIS WAY--I'm giving comparable examples ONLY!!!
Now, what would the reaction of this community be had these routinely used derogatory words in posts been replaced with "stupid fudge packer", "limp wristed moron", "fuck off you "N" word", or "dumbass trannies"? Can you see how we would be in an uproar if that actually happened?
I truly don't think most guys here *mean* to be derogatory or disrespectful to women (& Im not interested in being all "PC" -- I'm just asking for people to consider *maybe* there are some double standards already. As a member, Im asking that it not grow even larger. Treat us women just like you were treated w/regards to any password etc. IF women disrupt etc, THEN adjust it.
I love this community and life is hard enough without what is starting to come off to me as "he/she got more than me..no fair!!" Sincere thanks for hearing me out on this.
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After reading these replies
I cant really see any need for this any more
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Seriously, I think Mr. Elevated crystallized my thoughts quite well. Why would you say that one sex needs to have a protected forum, but the other doesn't? That's just plain unfair. And it's specifically unfair to WOMEN, suggesting by inference that they need to have protected status and men don't. This is the internet, and physical strength or size are meaningless here. Oh but the poor, downtrodden and weak females of the species need to have their own little special place where they can talk about their periods, chronic never ending UTIs and being constipated...Imagine!
I'd like to be able to talk about "nocturnal emissions" fer crissake without inspiring giggles from the back row.
And if the men's secret forum just doesn't get used as much, then that's our prerogative, but at least give us a level playing field.
It doesn't cost anything extra.
Double standards fucking piss me off.
Like this is the first time I've ever commented on this thread (I think), but I should have the option, if need be, or if I just simply want to vent to just dudes about a specific, sexually-based problem, or even crow about a recent conquest I've made, I should be able to. Away from the prying eyes of our dear female counterparts, that is (and those eyes can be pretty damn prying, sometimes).
Then we can talk about all the sick sexually perverted issues that plague us, without fear of reproach, inspiring discord, or just plain disgust. LOL, Jk on the sick sexually perverted stuff.
Oh, and one more thing and I'll stop modifying my post - what's with all the people who refuse to identify with a gender? Do we have that many neuter people on here?
cis male and proud of it - represent!
And since when should a women get to have a say in whether or not men get their own subforum?
And also I don't think making a men's only board would start us down the road to lefties only, Geminis only, ad infinitum. That's just silly to suggest.
Of course men's only topics wouldn't be nearly as popular with the men of the community as women's only topics are with the women but who does that hurt? Nobody. I can completely understand why women would want their own private space to discuss whatever they want, but it just smacks of sexism to not give the same privilege to men.
Zoops i like and respect you. But I cant agree with your remarks about women's needing their own special little place to discuss UTI's etc. That's just missing the point.
We didnt start out the gate with a password. It was only after multiple REQUESTS that the derails, crude offensive remarks were ignored that it happened. Because those request were ignored and no meaningful dialogue could happen. Im sorry that some guys just can't see it, but the reality is that certain topics for us women in this community like infest, rape, pregnancy and the like are VERY sensitive.
I'll give a hypothetical (based on some of the comments that KEPT happening) example based on reality--
Female member is asking about breast feeding her baby (may or may not have to do w/while in active addiction). Starts to get feedback from other women who have breastfed etc. Some guys come in and the catcalls etc about liking big tits etc start. And don't stop.
How likely is a female addict going to feel comfortable reaching out for feedback on getting out of sex work while supporting a toddler as a single mom after reading stuff like in my example? What about those who are addicted and in an abusive relationship and rely on the guy for drugs/money etc? When the derails happen, the focus is taken away from the one asking for advice/feedback etc and after awhile, a lot of us women just stopped trying to go against the tide. Remember, the ratio of men to women here is pretty large; i believe it was 7:1 when the password was finally put up.
I completely understand some guys saying its not "fair", but one of two things happened to cause this stink imo. Either you read the comments and said nothing. OR you didn't read them and have no idea what was posted before a password was finally put in place. And despite what I think are very clear reasons this exception was made, those who say "i don't get it" may never. All I ask is that folks reflect on being a pregnant addict or other unique to women situations & consider that even if one doesn't "get it", doesn't make "it" invalid and something to be mocked.
Many, many of the men here are great, and I respect and get a lot out of what they have to say. However, women ARE marginalized. Consider this: how many times just in the last *week* has someone posted "cunt", "thundercunt", "that stupid bitch" and on and on here? It's so common no one blinks.
But my feeling is if you were asked IRL if you'd let/support someone speaking that way to or about women, and your (not you personally Zoops; generally speaking) answer is "oh no, I respect women and wouldn't tolerate that" or some such, why is it different here?
I IN NO WAY FEEL THIS WAY--I'm giving comparable examples ONLY!!!
Now, what would the reaction of this community be had these routinely used derogatory words in posts been replaced with "stupid fudge packer", "limp wristed moron", "fuck off you "N" word", or "dumbass trannies"? Can you see how we would be in an uproar if that actually happened?
I truly don't think most guys here *mean* to be derogatory or disrespectful to women (& Im not interested in being all "PC" -- I'm just asking for people to consider *maybe* there are some double standards already. As a member, Im asking that it not grow even larger. Treat us women just like you were treated w/regards to any password etc. IF women disrupt etc, THEN adjust it.
I love this community and life is hard enough without what is starting to come off to me as "he/she got more than me..no fair!!" Sincere thanks for hearing me out on this.
So men don't suffer problems
Unique to the
Especially if you are a wm
Well I was trying to be nice
But once I read the word
Mansplaining
I wanted a mens only section
MANSPLAINING
THAT LIKE SAYING LET ME
(Mod Edit:)DUMB IT DOWN (End of Edit.) FOR YOU
I DON'T EVEN THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE ON THIS THREAD
HINCE THE NEED FOR A PASSWORD.
SO SAND AND WATER YOU OPINION MEANS SQUAT IN THIS THREAD
GO TO THE LADIES THREAD AND COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW WE WANT OUR OWN PLACE
JFC
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We didnt start out the gate with a password. It was only after multiple REQUESTS that the derails, crude offensive remarks were ignored that it happened. Because those request were ignored and no meaningful dialogue could happen.
Why can we not ban the offenders instead of banning an entire sex from the board? It wasn't all men who created the problem, I would be willing to guess it wasn't even a large percentage of men who created the problem.
If certain people can't be polite in the "safe" space the women want, ban those members from the board - not the entire gender because of a few bad apples.
*Edit*
And just to follow-up on another point you made...
I completely understand some guys saying its not "fair", but one of two things happened to cause this stink imo. Either you read the comments and said nothing. OR you didn't read them and have no idea what was posted before a password was finally put in place.
You're right, I never even got the chance to read the comments - but that's pretty much my point - it wasn't the entirety of men causing the problems. "Cat-calling" and making jokes about big tits in a breast feeding thread is something that would never even cross my mind, but by keeping all men out of your special board, you're basically saying I would act that way.
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This was not about some one saying something that would offend me. It was about discussing things I'm not comfortable talking to women about.
I don't know why this has to be put to a vote
It wasn't when the tables were turned
So let's have another poll to see if the
Women's only thread should stay.
I am big bad man do I should tough it out right?
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This was not about some one saying something that would offend me. It was about discussing things I'm not comfortable talking to women about.
I don't know why this has to be put to a vote
It wasn't when the tables were turned
So let's have another poll to see if the
Women's only thread should stay.
I am big bad man do I should tough it out right?
I wouldn't want to take away the women's-only board if it's helping women, but on the same token I don't feel like I should be banned from it. Women's issues are just another interesting aspect of the forum I would like to browse and it feels like I'm being excluded just because I'm a man and a select few men decided to act like boys.
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IF this is such an issue then get rid of it and direct women to a different women exclusive forum. I can give some links the mods or admin that are safe forums for women to go to and there are specific boards for drug users, just sucks having to go start in a different place...but I wouldn't want elevated to miss out on any problems us chicks are having. Lol
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As long as it isn't used as a place for encouraging hostlity toward women I don't se the problem.
Isn't it a little ironic that nobody abjected to the women-only board but opening a men's boardis such a tortured process.? Men an women are different. That's not a bad thing. I think most men would have something to discuss that they might not bring up if they knew women were reading and possible "judging" them if they are afrraid that their comments or questions make them look weak or insnsitive when they simply just don't know something.
I suspect most of the omments will have very little to do with women, especially in a critical way. I just pity the guy who ask "What's a clitoris?" (that was a joke)
Men are encouraged not to show weakness or uncertainty or "feminine" qualities. Yet, men have many of the same emotions and "insecurities" typically attributed towomen but for fear of looking "soft" they won't talk aout them. Having a web space where w could let our gaurd down or where the more experienced meale mebers could "school" the younger ones in a more private way would probably be on balance a net plus.
Again , as long as it doesn't allow misogyinistic talk, I am all for it.
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IF this is such an issue then get rid of it and direct women to a different women exclusive forum. I can give some links the mods or admin that are safe forums for women to go to and there are specific boards for drug users, just sucks having to go start in a different place...but I wouldn't want elevated to miss out on any problems us chicks are having. Lol
I'm not trying to cause problems, honestly. I like what you post, St. T. and you seem like a great person, I just feel a bit excluded unfairly - I'm sorry you find that funny. Women's issues are just as interesting as men's issues to me. Is that really so hard to understand?
This really underlines what I'm talking about - you act as if the problems you "chicks" are having are something that we shouldn't be allowed to see or read about. I don't feel that's the case. I would like to know about the issues you're having and I don't feel like being a man should exclude me from that.
Should we lock people out of the amphetamine forum if they don't use amphetamines?
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@ S & W, that comment that I made last night about women wanting their own subforum just so they can talk about UTIs was hyperbole (exaggeration), of course.
But really, who does it hurt to let men have a little place where they can talk about wet dreams or impotence, or ballsack pain, without having to be self-conscious about some random chick reading it and having a laugh? I mean if it doesn't ever even get used, that doesn't matter either because it's not like it would increase the hosting fees of this website.
Don't understand why the objection, even considering the manner in which the password-only women's subforum got instituted in the first place, because of a few bad actors making sophomoric comments. Lesson learned, then, don't let sex-exclusive subforums have co-ed access in the first place is the way I see it.
But all that aside, respect and peace S&W.
I can understand your point, Elevated, but the comparison of the quality of being of the female sex to amphetamine usage is inexact, because one represents a state of being, while the other is a behavior, which many would argue is completely voluntary (to some extent for sure it is).
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I understand my opinion means all of nothing in this thread, but I have to say two things: 1) it almost reads like more discord between the men on whether this is necessary or not, and 2) this is becoming almost painful to read. Why is this such a hard problem? Create the thing, put a password on it and vòila problem solved. Those who wanted it now have it and those who didn't think it was necessary have the bonus of griping about it behind closed doors. Or here where it's open. Can't we all just get along? That is all. ~ Lissa
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Im genuinely surprised that the "lock it up" option is the one competing with the "no need" option.
I would have bet my mustache that "keep it open" would have been the one competing with with No Need.
cmon brah dudes, we talk about things that border on misogynistic or the grotesque all the time.
and if anyone ever says something that crosses a line, they are always rightfully given shit for it.
in your neighbors humble opinion, no need for a mens board.
I cant help but think a lot of this stems from feelings of inequality or some weird form of prejudice
and as a community I think we should do our best to prevent and dissuade anything that fosters division
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The reason I am in favorof a mens' board is simply that ther eare some things men might be concerned about that are best discussed with other men. I know that I would not be using it (or tolerating) misogyistic or antagoistic posts that they can't get away with on the main board.
For instance epidiymitus hurts liike hell but can be quickly and easily treated in a doctor's office. But until you've had it, you probably never heard of it and not concerning women, uless they are health care professionals, they cant offer much help and its the kind of thing you don't talk about at cocktail party. When you get it, it isn't uncommon to think something is really, really wrong. But its also embarassing so many men wont go to an open forum for advice from other men who have had to deal with it.
Or, next time a resident peeping Tom "just happens" to look in a woman's house and see her "radiating" breasts the other men might disabuse him of the thought that that he has "a chance" with her because it iis coming from men, not women who the OP in that case clearly didn't "get."
In other words, a men's board need not be "anti-feminist" at all but instead feminism can be encouraged and shown that it isn't "anti-male."
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Ya know what fuck it
I grew up with out a dad what's that like guys?
I love to give women oral sex
But I hate the smell of fish.
Some times when I'm high and not even thinking about sex my penis gets hard. This is embarrassing because it happens at strange times
Some times when I am with a group of guys I think what would that dude do if I walked up to him and kissed him on the lips.
Any other guys have strange thoughts like this.
My arm pits smell less since I started shaving the hair off of them
I have blood in my stool some times.
Should I get a prostate exam.
Ya know coke a cola will eat the acid off a car battery.
It amazes mms that women are posting in this thread you asked us to back off of yours I apologized and did just that.
Please do the same
There are men mods who can handle this.
If any one thinks I want a thread where I can be little women
You are out of your Fukin mind.
I love women
They are life givers.
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Why don't we try an open forum category and see how it goes.
I also question if one thread was the best representation of men invading the womens forum. I know that I posted in it, and didn't realize where I was posting. When asked to stop I did. There are men who are mature enough to handle it, and might even have the occasional viewpoint that would be good to hear. I talk about female issues with my wife and women friends. I'm not a shy person, and have never had a problem with things like that. I don't remember me making catcalls, and whatever else was said.Obviously I can't look at the thread, but Riddick was apparently able to troll there? Is it possible that the password is just keeping out people who you don't need to keep out, and those who are interested will just find a way in anyways?
Starting an open mens forum seems like a good compromise for all sides. A place for men to talk, and a gentlemans agreement (gentlepeoples agreement?) that ladies find their own threads. Everyone is happy, and we can see how it goes. Maybe the password should even be taken off the womens forum. Obviously these are two separate issues.
Edit: There is an overwhelming lack of interest if anything. 34 people voting is less then 10% of the membership. It seems like most people couldn't care less.
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im really happy I cast the tie vote in favor of "Shit is pointless and not needed because culture at large and especially drug culture is Male Dominated"
I mean, it goes without saying pretty much most of the membership here consists of, straight, white, males. This sort of shit reeks of reactionary politics the same way creating a "White Student Union" would
"But I hate the smell of fish." - my girl has a theory (which I've affirmed from my own experience but you can already see how much this limits our shared hypothesis) that natural blondes have smellier vaginas. She also noted an episode of "Orange is the New Black", where the girls had some scheme to sell panties, and the brunettes had to keep the panties on for much much much longer than the blondes to get the desired musk of panty fetishists.
Now that I've been living away from my girl for the past few months, every time we meet up on the weekends, I request a new pair of dirty panties from her to sniff when I get lonely. true shit. Im not particularly into that sort of thing but to me it's her smell and I love her so I love her smell.
Also, I feel that if the Women gender specific board exist, why not make them accessible to ALL, but make posting restricted to women? Could this not allow us more understanding and insight as men, which is ultimately constructive? I really want to know and understand the female perspective on shit because this isn't by any means an equal society.
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if we have a tie then we go to an open mens' only board.
that takes into account the middle option.
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*bump* 2 more days to run.
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Picc lines and such fent Patch lalala
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Some times when I'm high and not even thinking about sex my penis gets hard. This is embarrassing because it happens at strange times
OMG OMG OMG
When I would fix up in Dunkin Donuts on my way back from coppin (You know the one right by the highway exit you Philly heads know which one I'm talking about) I would always get a hard on afterwards. Had nothing to do with sex or being horny it was almost like a physiological reaction. I was also new to fixing, and it would take me forever because I thrased my fucking veins so bad with being ignant; so everyone waiting for the bathroom knew I was fixing. But this sense of outrage soon is replaced by a sense of "WTF?" because I wear tapered leg jeans tight and shit and it was hard to hide I was walking out with a huge boner, looking all greasy and drugged out.
Jesus :o :o :o :o :o
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if we have a tie then we go to an open mens' only board.
that takes into account the middle option.
Only 4 people have voted for that option-there might not be a clear desire for a locked,men only forum or not,but it's pretty clear people aren't interested in an open men's board.
and it appears people don't have any problems talking about "sensitive" issues in this thread.
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Yea really not any reason to be shy
Just don't want to be embarrassed
@enduser
That's how I knew HeAd was for life
I love her fucking taste.
I would cut my younger out
If I could never taste her agian
You know that dude from insx
He lost his taste and couldn't taste his woman
That's why he offed himself
I understand
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poll ends today so get those last votes in ... one more "no" and we have a tie.
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looks like secret men's business it's going to be, most likely.
PM staff for the password, if that's the case. I prepared the board already.
poll closes in less than 30 mins. and this thread will be the first candidate.
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"But I hate the smell of fish." - my girl has a theory (which I've affirmed from my own experience but you can already see how much this limits our shared hypothesis) that natural blondes have smellier vaginas.
This is like saying blond men have better smelling asses. IE, it's bullshit.
Your GF is jealous of natural blondes..
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"But I hate the smell of fish." - my girl has a theory (which I've affirmed from my own experience but you can already see how much this limits our shared hypothesis) that natural blondes have smellier vaginas.
This is like saying blond men have better smelling asses. IE, it's bullshit.
Your GF is jealous of natural blondes..
you guys crack me up ... Chops has a sixth sense when it comes to BS spotting. I'm with Chops on this.
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Women can be some FILTHY human beings. Men don't have to take care of the body all thst much. I remember from middle school, girls s don't shit, fart, burp etc. How foolish was that shit wow 6th grade even..
Mods pm me with the password if it does come abour,
Thanx
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Since I was one of the obviously intended examples in that "hypothetical" scenario by Sand and Water, I'll say this:
While "bitch" is literally defined as 1.) a female dog; or 2.) a spiteful woman, not everyone uses the word "bitch" in the same way.
Some use "bitch" to mean a person who complains a lot. A variant is using "bitching" to mean "complaining."
Some use it to mean a submissive person who is to be abused, as in the prison context.
Some use it as a variant of the literal definition, but expand it to spiteful people (i.e., men too, not just women).
Some use "bitch" in two or more of those ways, depending on context.
The point is that whenever someone on here uses the word "bitch," it's not necessarily directed toward women.
But, having said that, what is the correct way to refer to a woman who's being spiteful? Some women are bitches b/c they're spiteful. Some men are too, IMO.
This same opinion applies equally to words like "thundercunt," "cunt," etc.
I'd also like to say that since this board has been recently password-protected, I don't think it right that women be able to post here anymore. I understand some women have the password b/c of their position. But using the password to read to ensure nothing sinister (i.e., solicitation) is going on should be the only purpose for any woman's presence here.
I don't think they should be allowed to post simply b/c they have the password. Otherwise, if some women post, what's the point in a password at all? That would be like men who have the password to the women's board posting there. It goes against the point.
It's also being hypocritical to the women who don't have the password.
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Nark, would you be so kind as to keep an eye on this board - your experience with moderating needn't be wasted.
I just feel that these locked boards may also be subject to abuse.
just if you have the time and desire.
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Nark, would you be so kind as to keep an eye on this board - your experience with moderating needn't be wasted.
I just feel that these locked boards may also be subject to abuse.
just if you have the time and desire.
Sure Chipper. I'll help out. If I see anything amiss, especially solicitation, I'll let you know.
I'm planning on being around more regularly now, so I don't mind. I would have been on starting Saturday, but a new overhaul of Windows 10 came out recently and that took too much time.
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very much appreciated - you are a thorough and sharp operator ... it may seem that you do not have the title or power now but by proxy, you actually do.
we trust you and respect your vigilance ... that's the bottom line. the time and effort you have put in has not been in vain.
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like nick, he may seem like a Regular member, which he is but he is still the site's political champion ... BAU.
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very much appreciated - you are a thorough and sharp operator ... it may seem that you do not have the title or power now but by proxy, you actually do.
we trust you and respect your vigilance ... that's the bottom line. the time and effort you have put in has not been in vain.
Thanks for the compliments, Chipper. :)
I'll do my best to remain worthy of them.
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As far as I'm aware passwords aren't being given out to moderators and admins anymore, unless they would have them anyways. If older mods and admins were given them then maybe the passwords should be changed.
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I mailed all staff with the password to the men's board.
I want staff to have all passwords so if you don't know it then ask me.
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Honestly guys\gals i dont see the mens forum being used much except for a few questions that might arise where the op is embaresed about the question or feels it is entirely specific to that gender. I.e. fatherhood.
I dont forsee any bashing of the other gender.
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Bic....-comfort fit?---comfort three?---- either way it's got 3 blades and shaves close but is alot cheaper than the 5 or 6 blade jobs. And fuck electric shavers. I don't know if it was my beard or a dull shaver but the only time I tried one it felt like it was just ripping them out.