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Title: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 02:20:01 AM
Okay...has anyone else gone nuts thinking about the otherworldy shit they saw..?
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Snout on June 19, 2016, 03:18:29 AM
Fuck yes, I met the lizards in 3 piece suits at their
Meeting table and they said , " you again? In or out!" 
dMT is some weird shit, that's about as high as one can get.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 04:02:24 AM
Nonono... a perfect shot of dilaudid is as high as you can get. Maybe w/ coke if you were more stimulant addled than myself. DMT in interdimensional travel man
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 04:08:01 AM
FWIW i IVed a to this day,unknown massive dose whilst also high on pcp meth heroin crack powder cocaine and a bottle of wine im talkin srs business
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 04:10:40 AM
And now that i think about it..pcp is as high as you can get lmao
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: sk8phaze on June 19, 2016, 05:03:55 AM
FWIW i IVed a to this day,unknown massive dose whilst also high on pcp meth heroin crack powder cocaine and a bottle of wine im talkin srs business

Daaaaaaaaauuumm!

Am I late for the 5o'Clock Freee crack giveaway!?!

 most would not survive that, physically or mentally

you my friend are an OG soldier, we've been fightin' this drug war to long

got battle scars....or track marks.

call em what u so chooose

crazyness
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Snout on June 19, 2016, 09:32:07 AM
Having done a fair amount of pcp And a lot of dmt that's a tough call, but I would say for "otherworldly shit", which blows your mind, dmt wins every time.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 03:24:19 PM
To me, pcp is the most intense psychedelic experience that you can experience while remaining in this world, in your personal conciousness, however you want to describe it. Even though the sky is red and laser beams are flying out of your hands, you know who you are still.

DMT i really cant even call it a drug. Its a gateway to another dimension. Not a single other dimension mind you, i think its a tricky topic because each person has their own experience and not every trip is the same. People arent visited by the same entities, and i think some of them attempt to brainwash us the same as human/3rd dimensional/real world agencies. (Like the government mann)

And yea, idk how i survived that. I truly trusted the person handing me all those drugs telling me id be okay. In fact the only thing that freaked me was my lack of cigarettes lol
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on June 19, 2016, 04:04:35 PM
To me, pcp is the most intense psychedelic experience that you can experience while remaining in this world, in your personal conciousness, however you want to describe it. Even though the sky is red and laser beams are flying out of your hands, you know who you are still.

DMT i really cant even call it a drug. Its a gateway to another dimension. Not a single other dimension mind you, i think its a tricky topic because each person has their own experience and not every trip is the same. People arent visited by the same entities, and i think some of them attempt to brainwash us the same as human/3rd dimensional/real world agencies. (Like the government mann)

And yea, idk how i survived that. I truly trusted the person handing me all those drugs telling me id be okay. In fact the only thing that freaked me was my lack of cigarettes lol

Whoa I have never considered the spirits or entities could be trying to brainwash us. That is an interesting concept. Do you think that is limited to the DMT spirit world, or do you think there are entities/energy/spirits trying to brainwash us on other psychedelics?
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on June 19, 2016, 04:11:05 PM
Never met the lizard people, it's the space monkeys that visit me.  Never done pcp, but I love me some deems.   I'm already pre-disposed to hearing voices so it's almost a guarantee that I experience communication of some sort. Interesting that even though it's way more intense than acid I've never had a bad time on it.  Acid is about a 50/50 chance I'll wish I hadn't taken it.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
Man i think it possibly goes on all the time even if we are just in a normal waking state. Subtle influences on our emotions. Or that could be justification for me acting like a dipshit.

But as far as trips go, wouldnt it just be so perfect if we who had all these experiences were walking around thinking we had some higher knowledge, but because we met the wrong crowd in the spirit world, our behavior relative to whats 'good' was actually declining?

It would be the ultimate trick, specifically catered to us that feel misunderstood or invalidated already due to our search for truth
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on June 19, 2016, 04:23:49 PM
Once I had aliens (?) on sport bikes giving me the finger. I really wasn't in any condition to be smoking DMT, and they made sure I knew this. I put the pipe down after that.

I really wonder, how common is it for people to either visualize or encounter other types of lifeforms whilst tripping on DMT, it seems really common. I've had really intense visuals of snakes and cats (both of which I'm really into) on DMT, again, it seems like almost everyone sees animals or beings at some point..

Fantastic "drug" (I'm also hesitant to call it a drug, I think I've heard it best described as a "portal" - maybe a "chemical portal").

I truly think EVERBODY should rip a dmitri pipe at least once, it should be a rite of passage into adulthood..
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 19, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
I personally had a telepathic conversation with Thoth at the height of the trip, the iv, but was flipping pages of a book in the hands of a really creepy non speaking alien figure when i had just ripped the pipe. So even dosages and methods of ingestion, on the same day, can vary the trip.

My deal is, I think taking it at all opened my mind to the existence and impact of spiritual things, so yes overall its done me good. But then i think the trips also have a kind of storyline that one needs to be wary of. Were not as skeptical in that state, which is both good and bad imo

So maybe a good analogy would be just because youve learned to read, it doesnt mean your always reading nonfiction

Interestingly enough, i remember learning to read with books made up of talking animals
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on June 22, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
@DiacetylKineval what kind of story line were you noticing with your trips?


I agree that there are energies around us constantly effecting our emotions and perspectives. Like when people do bad things, negative energies and spirits are attracted to that negative energy. Because I definitely think we output energy signals all the time. That's why you can feel someone looking at you behind your back, or while sleeping. It's like I can feel their energy projecting onto me.

Im starting to notice a weird storyline with my life. Like it seems planned out already or a giant mathematical algorithm

Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on June 22, 2016, 08:50:25 PM
Ive absolutely experienced that, the algorithm thing. But its more like deja vu for me. I did the dmt that caused the major trip(ive only done it 3 times, twice that night, and a much weaker dose on another day) about 2 years ago. Most of the storyline has been about my own life, ive just seen it before, and it has kind of a more magical purpose to it.

Most of what this drug has affected has been my dreams. I can more easily become lucid in my dreams, and rarely do i have an actual 'dream' like a fake trippy story. Typically when i sleep, believe it or not, i go back to the DMT world(however in my opinion its not just a 'DMT World') and speak to people/entities/higher selves, alot about my life and the world in real time. Of course, like a dream, i cant wake up remember it all and predict the future but i still recall it enough to know theres intense stuff out there beyond our perception.

However, these magical revelations have done nothing for my addictions, in fact id say theyre worse considering i have so much im thinking about. And its also these dreams that made me consider we may be being tricked, because for the most part I was visited by the girl i had the trip with, but ive since realized it could be anything pretending to be her.

And no, she doesnt talk to me about it IRL. Leading me to believe its either a trick/exaggeration, or some people are really afraid of what these entities can be capable of. Enough to not talk about it, but maybe still show it to someone else, as what happened in my case.

Maybe not neccessarily afraid. Maybe its like a space time continuum rule, or maybe im supposed to learn certain things on my own, thats certainly been the reasoning behind alot of things that seem bad in my life, and im more aware of that because of the trip/dreams. So even though my actual drug dependency isnt any better, thats not the point. I wasnt seeking that, and i am what i am supposed to be.

Not trying to paint a negative picture here, i think this drug caused an important breakthrough in my life. Its just not the purpose of life to have an easy answer, in fact i might suggest its being okay with the fact that theres no answer, coz we're still alive
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Chip on June 22, 2016, 09:09:50 PM
Once I had aliens (?) on sport bikes giving me the finger. I really wasn't in any condition to be smoking DMT, and they made sure I knew this. I put the pipe down after that.

I really wonder, how common is it for people to either visualize or encounter other types of lifeforms whilst tripping on DMT, it seems really common. I've had really intense visuals of snakes and cats (both of which I'm really into) on DMT, again, it seems like almost everyone sees animals or beings at some point..

Fantastic "drug" (I'm also hesitant to call it a drug, I think I've heard it best described as a "portal" - maybe a "chemical portal").

I truly think EVERBODY should rip a dmitri pipe at least once, it should be a rite of passage into adulthood..

it's drugs like DMT that make all the crappy aspects of being a user, worthwhile.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on June 22, 2016, 09:40:24 PM
My addiction was/is necessary for shaping a huge amount of my experiences, and fast tracked certain life lessons. It seems I was meant to go the path of addiction because of the people and places it's taken me. Like life's way of testing and teaching.

 Coincidence is the universes way of staying anonymous.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Tainted on July 01, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
am i the only person who doesn't think that psychedelics project you into another dimension/doesnt think what you see has any basis in reality? they are fun as hell to take most of the time, they can make you think outside the box out of your normal comfort zone/linear thinking, but there isn't anything spirtual about them. ive tripped on acid shrooms dxm dmt K and some weird K analogue more times than i can count, but ive never seen anything that made me think it was anything more than a chemical causing that incredibly complex machine that allows us to see/think/live to misfire, the same way i dont give dreams any special meaning.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on July 01, 2016, 02:21:03 PM
I don't give dreams any special meaning either, honestly it kinda bugs me when people do. I never thought, or I guess "bought", that psychedelics could really potentially be spiritual, until DMT. That stuff is on a whole 'nother level. My very first BT hit was distinctly Mayan or Aztecan feeling, and maybe that's kinda what I expected on some level and that explains it, but boy it sure did feel like something a whole lot bigger than just a drug. It sounds like some hippy BS, but I think most people who have had a proper DMT rip know what I'm talking about..
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on July 01, 2016, 02:51:28 PM
Ironic to me that you can see special meaning in DMT but not dreams. Moreover that it bugs you. I only know that DMT is what made dreams have a meaning in the first place.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on July 01, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Ironic to me that you can see special meaning in DMT but not dreams. Moreover that it bugs you. I only know that DMT is what made dreams have a meaning in the first place.

Although I get why someone might think that, I think it's about the possibilty that spirituality could actually exist as a tangible substance, which I don't think is really that far fetched..

Maybe the mushrooms and the coral and the trees are trying to tell us something?

Maybe God is a chemical?
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 01, 2016, 05:50:10 PM
Sure I'm willing to admit all those things were creations of my own brains imagination.

But I also think there are things happening around us constantly that we just don't have the ability to perceive. It's a whole other world I become in-tune with on hallucinogens. Like it opens a portal I can see through.

When the body is dreaming supposedly it's the pineal gland that secreates DMT in REM sleep.
I don't think we fully understand dreams. I saw one study that said if you are learning something and then take a nap and dream about the thing you were learning, it actually helps you get better.

Another theory is dreams are our minds way of subtly preparing us for certain life events. For example in recovery people often have very realistic using dreams. I've seen them come into support groups acting guilty like they really relapsed. But the theory is that's the brain mentally preparing you for the event.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: DiacetylKineval on July 01, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
I think the issue is that when it comes to spirituality, our plane is really the only one that has tangible substances. Therefore, the DMT trip, our dreams, can perhaps align our matter based minds with the more transient realms.

Now i will say this: my dreams prior to the DMT, were regular, wtf was that or oh i know this place type dreams. And though a fragment of my dreams are still 'regular' after that trip, there is almost a clear amount of my dreams where i am a lucid version of myself, with awareness that on a certain plane i am lying in a bed, i know what happened the day before, whats going to happen the next day, and that i currently(in the dream) am somewhere else, yet somewhere oddly familiar. And talking to people that are very very oddly familiar. Sometimes ill even say things like "well yea that was in my human life, oh wait im still experiencing that arent I?" As if this whole life is just a fragment of the knowledge i apparently already have in some other dimension.

And the trip is I remember this stuff even sitting here now, i just dont have that same 'feeling of knowing' as I do on a trip or in the dream.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 01, 2016, 09:28:07 PM
I don't necessarily think dmt connects me to actual entities nor transports me to another dimension, but that is the way I experience it and the way I experience it is more significant to me in my life than what the actual truth (certainty unobtainable anyhow) might be .  I do believe I've learned things about myself and about existence from my trips but none of it is what I was shown at face value.  More on the level of metaphor that leaves a lot of room for interpretation, and more questions than answers.  Personally I consider the psychedelic experience entirely internal, a fun-house mirror type reflection of my own psyche.  But I don't discount the possibility there could be more to it & I don't have access to others' experiences.  It's definitely a thing that one needs to decide what, if anything, it means to them.

  First time I did it, not knowing exactly what to expect, I had two friends (a couple) sit with me.  I had a row of these monkey creatures with bio-mechanical attachments staring at me saying nothing while another larger one who was in charge of them stayed behind me out of sight and told me "I can show you more if you want"  to which I replied out loud "Thanks but I think this is enough for now."  my friends, assuming I was talking to them about the dmt said "we put it away for you" or something to which I said "please shut up, I wasn't talking to you."  and with that interruption I was on my way home.  Afterwards they seemed as wierded out by this as I. 

Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Griffin on July 02, 2016, 03:37:26 AM
That's kind of interesting mr. p about dreams embracing you for the future, the first time I got clean it seemed every single dream was me chasing and never getting high, always dropping pills, not being able to open the bottle, or missing shots and shit, and then one time I had a super intense dream that I remembered vividly where I got extremely high and fell into a creek and drowned, it was the same creek I contemplated suicide in growing up, which still gives me the heebie jeebies to think about. I woke up in a cold sweat flipping out remembering the whole thing like it was real.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Snoop on July 04, 2016, 01:29:14 AM
I'm big on seeing faces and animals on Deems...

Mostly faces though.

Morphing in and out of focus like smoke.

Never interact with my visions though.

Maybe I'm not doing it right? I just like to watch until I return... maybe next time Ill reach out to the faces and pretty animals.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: thetalkingasshole on July 04, 2016, 10:01:26 AM
You guys should try smoking a bowl of passion flower with dmt in it

You'll definitely see all the faces, animals, and machine elves
Just make sure you don't don't have anything to do for the day
And have a babysitter
I almost ran through my campus butt-ass naked when I tried it
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Dopeless Hopefiend on July 04, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
My experience with psychedelics is pretty much limited to a lot of LSD & mushrooms when I was younger and PCP once taken unknowingly, (that was a total mindfuck. I almost jumped off a roof because I thought I could fly). I've never done DMT though. Isn't it the same thing as ayahuasca?
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 04, 2016, 06:38:33 PM
It is, something in the ayahuasca preparation slows down your body's process of the drug so it can be taken orally & lasts longer. I'd like to try it that way, smoked the rush is so intense that by the time I'm settled into the experience it's winding down.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Snoop on July 04, 2016, 08:05:48 PM
Man.... same here.

It seems like when I start to really get that "feeling" (physical) not (psychosomatic) that rising in my chest that spreads into my throat, and makes me swallow hard.

And the zooming balls experience ensues. Its like I run outta gas. And it's over. For the most part.

But such is the nature of DMT. And I kinda enjoy that it doesn't fuck with me long into the next day..... while I'm at work. Or around people you can't have frog eyes around. The folks, your bitches folks and the like.

Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 04, 2016, 08:23:23 PM
Can't imagine why anyone would want/need to shoot the stuff unless they want to get more into themselves than they can via smoking.  Rush from smoking is way more intense than the few things i've iv'd.  Anyone else smoke their deems off foil?  I swear by it, but always hear about people putting it on a bowl of weed or somthing.  I can't imagine I could get the same amount in me as quick (before I'm unable to smoke more) via pot-pipe.  If doing the foil route you gotta form it into a little bowl because it liquifies with heat, can't really "run a line" like tar on foil.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 05, 2016, 03:47:35 PM
My experience with psychedelics is pretty much limited to a lot of LSD & mushrooms when I was younger and PCP once taken unknowingly, (that was a total mindfuck. I almost jumped off a roof because I thought I could fly). I've never done DMT though. Isn't it the same thing as ayahuasca?

I wanna hear the PCP story and why you were gonna jump off a roof? I've often heard that story about someone thinking they could fly on certain drugs, and attempt flying off a balcony. Why wouldn't they test it out on the ground first? Did they just jump and flap their arms like a bird, or put their hands out like superman?

Maybe they thought they could only glide? so needed a high starting point like with hang gliders?

Can't imagine why anyone would want/need to shoot the stuff unless they want to get more into themselves than they can via smoking.  Rush from smoking is way more intense than the few things i've iv'd.  Anyone else smoke their deems off foil?  I swear by it, but always hear about people putting it on a bowl of weed or somthing.  I can't imagine I could get the same amount in me as quick (before I'm unable to smoke more) via pot-pipe.  If doing the foil route you gotta form it into a little bowl because it liquifies with heat, can't really "run a line" like tar on foil.

I watched a documentary called "the underground LSD palace" on youtube, and the girl being interviewed said her boyfriend would shoot up DMT. She claimed they set up IV bags of DMT with a dial to adjust the intake to more or less, to control your DMT trip intensity, and keep riding the peak. Tripping for days at a time.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Dopeless Hopefiend on July 05, 2016, 05:07:08 PM
Well @Mr.pooper, I was like 15 or 16 & went to an underage dance club. There was some older guy there handing out clove cigarettes to people & I took one and smoked it.  About 20 minutes later I realized I was really fucked up, but had no idea what the fuck I was on. I mean I'd smoked a ton of weed, dropped LSD, done speed a few times by that point, but this was a whole different ballgame. I found the dude with the cloves and tried to ask him what the fuck he gave me but I couldn't really get any words out. He just started laughing hysterically & said something like "Ooh the sherm done hit ya now huh?" I didn't even know what sherm was. So I was still staring at him like an idiot & he goes, "you know... Angel Dust baaaaabyyyyy." Seriously sounded like some fucking nefarious television "dope pusher" from an after-school special. Luckily I had some friends with me who weren't on it because I probably would've killed myself or something. I remember walking outside, in the middle of downtown and it felt like every step I took I was like bouncing 5 feet into the air when my foot went up, and then when I brought it down I would slam back down to the concrete. So I guess that's what made me think I could fly. I was just walking & had the sensation of almost flying so I figured, shit why not try the real thing? We were back at my friend's house by then & the people there talked me down off the roof by convincing me that I had to practice my flying skills from a lower launch point first. They suggested the porch which was maybe 4 or so feet off the ground. I tried.... Numerous times but was not successful in my attempts at flying. I did however wake up covered in scratches the next day from landing in the bushes a few times. Never had a desire to do pcp again. It was a little too much of an out of body experience for me.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Griffin on July 05, 2016, 11:56:23 PM
I graduated with a guy who took acid and was on the roof saying he could fly only to fall off and break his neck, I don't know or think that he meant it and that he legitimately just fell because he was drinking too, but people blew it way out of proportion and the dumb ass news caught on to it and did the typical acid kills kids series.

Didn't some musicians kid fall off a mountain on acid last year, damn that would suck. I had a few friends that took it when we went hiking, I have always disliked psychedelics so I didn't partake and only have taken shrooms, and ecstasy if you consider that close to a psychedelic. It was fun convincing them I saw a cougar, hah you'd never known junkies had such stamina until a cougar is mentioned.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Chip on July 06, 2016, 06:22:23 AM
DMT will literally change your life in the way you see psychedelics ... I don't really like tripping but DMT is just amazing.

Chipster highly recommends it.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Griffin on July 06, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
Yeah I figured if I ever tried them again, I'd do dmt because of the length of the trip, last thing I want is to convince myself I am dead, or now permenantly crazy, or in that state and freak out for a long ass trip. However taking shrooms help take away my suicidal ideation almost 100% for a few years, no lie. I used to hear kill yourself all day and think about different ways to do it constantly, my conscience would cause me a lot of anxiety because I couldn't stop it from constantly saying kill yourself all day it was horrible.

When I took it for the first time, I was with my best friends, we went to an awesome bonfire party on halloween so a ton of people in crazy costumes with a big fire, they lit a couch on fire. Fire is kind of the shit when your in that state, it was amazing. When we went home everyone was saying they were going to take more and trip all night and I was like hell yeah and ate another 2 g's, then when we got there everyone was like ahh nevermind we're going to sleep.

So I was up all by myself the whole entire night tripping balls, and I kept hearing that voice saying kill yourself and it just got louder and louder and I really thought about it, and I don't know why but the next day that voice was gone, and I didn't think about that shit for a few years after, I also didn't have any panic attacks for like 6 months afterwards. It sounds stupid but I don't know why it went away, it was like very spiritual and introspective and I felt like I came to an agreement with myself and I can't explain it but it truly helped me.

I ended up having a panic attack abou 6 months later because I was 19 and I got into a bar for the very first time because the band that was playing wanted me to audition for them. So on their bus I got really drunk with them, and one of the girls there was cool and her and her mom kept buying me drinks, and I got hammered. Well mid show the mom who is probably late 50s starts rubbing all over me.

Well right before the show is over she tells me to come to the bathroom and tells me to have sex with her when I got there. I like a drunken dumb ass hole thought it was a good idea or felt like I couldn't get out, even though it was horrible in a public bathroom with a chick who's daughter I was trying to go home with, bout mid way through I just couldn't and I ran out and my friends who were picking me up to take me home just got there and we left.

The next morning my dick burned and I convinced myself that this lady gave me something after she liquored me up and practically date raped me and my dumb ass didn't wear a condom. So I had a full blown panic attack went to the clinic that day got tested and was lucky I didn't have anything.

It grossed me out, a few weeks later her daughter sent me a friend request on facebook which was so weird cause she knew what happened. I don't know that shit messed with my head back in the day, I was grossed out, but at the same time felt like a complete asshole for just running out and not saying anything and leaving. My friends thought it was hilarious, I woke up that morning so hungover and my dick felt like I had pissed out jalapeno juice and I was piecing what happened the previous night together and they were filling in the gaps from what I told them on the car ride home while laughing at me, not one of my best days for sure.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Tainted on July 06, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
Can't imagine why anyone would want/need to shoot the stuff unless they want to get more into themselves than they can via smoking.  Rush from smoking is way more intense than the few things i've iv'd.  Anyone else smoke their deems off foil?  I swear by it, but always hear about people putting it on a bowl of weed or somthing.  I can't imagine I could get the same amount in me as quick (before I'm unable to smoke more) via pot-pipe.  If doing the foil route you gotta form it into a little bowl because it liquifies with heat, can't really "run a line" like tar on foil.

im gonna try it IV. i cant break thru just using tinfoil or a pipe. first time i did it was using tinfoil, but my hits werent big enough and the deems caught fire and lit the $20 bill i was using to inhale smoke on fire. next few times i used a pipe with a ton of ash and a screen, worked well but didnt break thru. most recently ive been using a bong with a screen and ash which works really well but im using amounts way larger than i need cause im sure some drips thru, im torching it and destroying it, etc. i wanna try injecting it cause the dose is much smaller, but i wont use lemon juice or vinegar and its my understanding that DMT isnt very water soluble so i havent gotten to try it yet, but i got a friend whos an organic chemist who said he'll get me some DMT acetate (i believe he said acetate, i could be wrong)
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 06, 2016, 08:07:16 PM
im gonna try it IV. i cant break thru just using tinfoil or a pipe. first time i did it was using tinfoil, but my hits werent big enough and the deems caught fire and lit the $20 bill i was using to inhale smoke on fire. next few times i used a pipe with a ton of ash and a screen, worked well but didnt break thru. most recently ive been using a bong with a screen and ash which works really well but im using amounts way larger than i need cause im sure some drips thru, im torching it and destroying it, etc. i wanna try injecting it cause the dose is much smaller, but i wont use lemon juice or vinegar and its my understanding that DMT isnt very water soluble so i havent gotten to try it yet, but i got a friend whos an organic chemist who said he'll get me some DMT acetate (i believe he said acetate, i could be wrong)

Have you tried using a "oil burner" yet? AKA Your typical meth pipe. Always works great for me, way better than some foil or direct flame on a weed pipe. Bout 3-4 fat hits out of a bubble gets me going haha
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on July 06, 2016, 08:31:56 PM
i wanna try injecting it cause the dose is much smaller, but i wont use lemon juice or vinegar and its my understanding that DMT isnt very water soluble so i havent gotten to try it yet, but i got a friend whos an organic chemist who said he'll get me some DMT acetate (i believe he said acetate, i could be wrong)

Freebase DMT isn't soluble in neutral or basic media, but it is soluble in acidic water. The acetic acid from tar is enough to get it in solution, I've unknowingly had freebase residue get into a solution of tar and wound up with VERY interesting dope shots. A little hcl or acetic is all that's needed to bang the freebase. Another option is the fumarate salt, which is water soluble and very stable, so it's great for storing DMT over time, which the freebase is *not* good for as it will oxidize rapidly. The fumarate salt may be what your friend was referring to, as again, it's a very easy to make, very stable and a very soluble form of DMT that can be sniffed or injected (or consumed orally with an MAOI); or even converted back into freebase and vaporised.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Chip on July 07, 2016, 05:59:29 AM
Freebase DMT isn't soluble in neutral or basic media, but it is soluble in acidic water. The acetic acid from tar is enough to get it in solution, I've unknowingly had freebase residue get into a solution of tar and wound up with VERY interesting dope shots. A little hcl or acetic is all that's needed to bang the freebase. Another option is the fumarate salt, which is water soluble and very stable, so it's great for storing DMT over time, which the freebase is *not* good for as it will oxidize rapidly. The fumarate salt may be what your friend was referring to, as again, it's a very easy to make, very stable and a very soluble form of DMT that can be sniffed or injected (or consumed orally with an MAOI); or even converted back into freebase and vaporised.

good to know but too late for me - a fair while ago, i tried to dissolve it in water but of course, i failed. i wish i had this resource (and your expertise) at the time !
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Griffin on July 07, 2016, 07:43:48 AM
Sorry to go off topic but has anyone used a meth pipe to smoke bth? I have always wanted to use a hash dab rig but never got the chance, I heard some people had good experiences some bad. I thought if you smoked with a rig that was a water pipe that when the smoke hit the water the H would get stuck in the bong water cause it's water soluble. I figured since weed isn't really water soluble that's why you can use water pipes, but for stuff like meth, coke, and H if you used one the dope would get stuck in the water when you try to smoke it, does that make sense?

This is what my last rig looked like it would have water in the bottom part which I always figured would trap the dope if I used it for that.
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On a side note if any of you guys like glass pipes and stuff like that and are in denver you should check out illusions, they have some $100,000 pipes that are insane. Like 4-5 feet of amazing intricate glass work.

This is one of my favorites that I have seen there, its all glass even where the sails are and the smoke travels through most all of it.
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Last time I went they didn't have that piece anymore but they had a new one that was a lemur skeleton it is one of the coolest I have ever seen. It kind of looks like reptile in the movie mortal kombat when it follows them through that cage if any of you remember that scene. The one behind it in the video is really amazing too, its probably 4 foot by 4 foot and all of its interconnected so you would smoke out of one side and fill the whole thing up with smoke.



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Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 07, 2016, 04:08:13 PM
@Griffin  Why do you think they invented dab rigs? To dab BTH!!

Use a dome-less titanium nail, or quartz banger on the rig. Also DONT PUT WATER IN THE RIG. Just "dry hit" the bong so nothing is lost in the water.

If you really wanna go hard, buy a e-nail that's always hot and ready. That way you can get the perfect temperature dab to maximize vaporizing.

I see all these videos on youtube titled "1 gram hash dab!!!"...time to change up the game and do a 1 gram dab of BTH! THAT RUSH!!

Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 09, 2016, 02:49:09 PM
Dig this I posted in the "how you doing" thread about this morning's visit to my psych-

    Check this out - right before leaving we'd been discussing amphetamines & how I'd never touch any without an opiate, instant bad voices, etc...  I asked him if he was at all familiar with dmt.  "Yeah." We had a sentence or two and I said "if i could ever afford to go to central america I would really like to do the ayahuasca.  He said "you know, you can do that right here in Colorado.  Boulder.  You can do it in a traditional spiritual setting with a shaman & all that or a more neutral/modern setting. So long as you don't think your spiritual beliefs would clash I think you'd dig the traditional type."  He asked if I'd ever read Strausman's "DMT: The spirit molecule".  "Yeah, read it at about 20 & didn't come across dmt until my late 30's."  "Well...   The study that the book was about...  I was in it."  No Bullshit. 

  Looks like Jesus and I are going to talk to the space monkeys.  My parents will flip, hahaha.  Likely won't happen for a time, I'm forever broke as shit.  Might not tell the folks either - could be a little unkind, they are very traditional Christians.   Anyhow, looks to me that my life is about to get very real again.  meant two ways - "heavy (kinda always is though) & that I am about to have a real, and really good life again. :)
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 09, 2016, 04:13:59 PM
See what I mean about life almost being pre-planned? If you would have never become a drug user, you would have never met this therapist, who just so happened to be part of the DMT culture, and has sent your mind/life in a certain direction. In this instance the ayahuasca trip seems to be calling to you.



Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 09, 2016, 08:24:14 PM
See what I mean about life almost being pre-planned? If you would have never become a drug user, you would have never met this therapist, who just so happened to be part of the DMT culture, and has sent your mind/life in a certain direction. In this instance the ayahuasca trip seems to be calling to you.

I'm of the same or similar mindset - I believe in pre-destination, even determinism.  Mine does include free will, i don't believe them to be mutually exclusive - time being the only dimension (that we experience) that we have limited access to.  This whole process of getting off the h has been full of unique "coincidences."
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 11, 2016, 01:53:50 AM
@MoeMentim when I detoxed that's when I really started noticing a sort of weird pathway that connected in weird coincidences. Even my nightmares I learned from. Which is interesting because when we sleep our brains release DMT. Maybe something higher than I can comprehend wanted me to realize certain things with the nightmares, like hidden messages that held great meaning.

Everything seems to be building up to something.

I think we can alter and control that pathway. Free will like you said. It's not just a strait path, there are many twists and turns to the path, and we can choose which to take. Everyone's life road map is unique to them.

You mentioned us only having certain access to time. I have a theory that when you take a certain path, time splits off and creates an alternate parallel universe where the other option was chosen. For example when you fix up, and OD. Get saved and hit by narcan...Then a split happens in time where you you didn't survive the OD.

Yet another theory. That alter time line where you die, you start over from the start because you didnt take the right way, and you keep repeating the life till you get to the ultimate reason we are each here. Then you evolve from 3rd density and go to another place called 4th density where the lessons and knowledge are takin to whatever is next.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Chip on July 11, 2016, 02:48:48 AM
man pooper, that's too deep for me but I wish it were true.
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 11, 2016, 02:47:01 PM
man pooper, that's too deep for me but I wish it were true.

Here's another one of my more fringe theories.

I think we are all gods, and have put ourselves in this ultimate game.

Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: MoeMentim on July 23, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
@MoeMentim when I detoxed that's when I really started noticing a sort of weird pathway that connected in weird coincidences. Even my nightmares I learned from. Which is interesting because when we sleep our brains release DMT. Maybe something higher than I can comprehend wanted me to realize certain things with the nightmares, like hidden messages that held great meaning.

Everything seems to be building up to something.

I think we can alter and control that pathway. Free will like you said. It's not just a strait path, there are many twists and turns to the path, and we can choose which to take. Everyone's life road map is unique to them.

You mentioned us only having certain access to time. I have a theory that when you take a certain path, time splits off and creates an alternate parallel universe where the other option was chosen. For example when you fix up, and OD. Get saved and hit by narcan...Then a split happens in time where you you didn't survive the OD.

Yet another theory. That alter time line where you die, you start over from the start because you didnt take the right way, and you keep repeating the life till you get to the ultimate reason we are each here. Then you evolve from 3rd density and go to another place called 4th density where the lessons and knowledge are takin to whatever is next.

  Pretty sure I typed out a whole detailed response to this before, most likely drunk & decided to delete.  Anyhow, check out the new-ish "multiverse theory" it's basically exactly what you're talking about.  I'm a little apprehensive about it because it seems to me that it would simultaneously answer/destroy all questions. 

  This morning's sunrise was immaculate.  right now it's raining cats & dogs with close lightning and dark clouds, might see some hail. This world is a trip in itself, no?
Title: Re: the straight dope on DMT
Post by: 40mgtofreedom on August 07, 2016, 05:30:58 PM
i xtract my spice from mHRB and ACRB.

after drying on glass to crystal i dissolve 500mg per 1ml of 0mg PG sometimes adding slight flavor.  this will give you blast off in 1 hit, not even 3.

its all waiting for you, instead of complaining get out there and make it happen, especially you people in oz and New Z, its in all the grass and tree bark you see everyday.

theres a whole new world out there and tech is fueling it, evolve or get left behind. learn encryption. LSD is less than $1 for 98% and higher purity crystal at 120ug.  seek and find.

i am probably done posting here for a good while, i have given you the keys to what you seek.  fare thee well.

if you want to find me i will be on the majestic garden , use the codephrase price of freedom in weight.
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