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Title: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: traplord69 on July 30, 2016, 09:53:15 PM
I've often thought to myself how amazing it would be to have my own brick of nearly pure h.  Give me that and a bunch of cigs and I feel like I would be set.  Kind of sad that that is an actual aspiration of mine but then again all drugs should be legal and we should be able to decide what we put our bodies.  But anyways how long do you guys think a kilo of almost pure heroin would last you for?
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Esoteric Anhydride on July 31, 2016, 12:15:49 AM
The more you have, the more you do, the less you get from it -- "dealer habits" are overrated.

Duckfeet made a comment years ago about 60mg MD being about as much as he'd ever want, if he stayed at that level, then he'd still get a little lift in the mornings. Anymore than that, and it's just the same shit every day, drink the juice only cos you gotta drink it.. I totally heard him when he said that.

IME the bigger my habit, the less I enjoy it..
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Zoops on July 31, 2016, 12:50:26 AM
You're totally not weird for thinking that.

I have thought about that before too.

I think it would last me all of a year, maybe a little longer. I'd party with some, give some away, you know...

So about a year. Man your habit would be a monster at the end though.

It ain't no OTC diarrhea medicine gonna touch that.


Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Chip on July 31, 2016, 12:57:07 AM
That would just trash my taper, sadly.

I'd have to share it with some very happy friends because I don't want another habit ... but then again, I'd probably smoke a little bit, despite having never done so.

You know, just to see what it was like ;).

EA and Zoops are right on the money - you probably would turn into a Heroin monster.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: traplord69 on July 31, 2016, 12:59:44 AM
Yea those were pretty much my thoughts exactly, it would be amazing for the first week or two and then before you knew it you'd be blasting .5g or more at a time to the point that you'd be maintaining more than getting high. That was my over under threshold, about a year.  Wish there was some happy medium in between
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: DeadCat on July 31, 2016, 01:00:25 AM
Yeah, it doesn't take too long to get insane habits.I don't know wheer I exactly peaked in use but I remember along the way I'd buy bricks and dump bundles in the spoon to start and be lucky to leave a bag for a wake-up. Then I would buy 3 bundles and sell one to the people I would middle for at a price high enough to cover all 3 and be lucky to have a couple bags to wake up with. Or I'd buy fingers of solid brown dope tand drop huge chunks in the spoon and think nothing of it.

I almost killed myself when my dealer handed me a big coke rock by mistake and I shot most of it thinking it was dope. I remeber thinking that it smelled like coke in the cooker and..... then though my heart would explode or I'd have a broan embolysm while I spent about 30 monutes in a bathroom stall sure this would be where they found my  body...

Since then, I have heard a gram of coke IV will kill you so it had to be less than a gram..

To answer the question: I'd say within 2 weeks of using dope instead of buprenorphine and once all the bupe was out of my system, asssuming the kilo was good H, I'd be up to 2 grams a day in under a month. So after the build-up and IF I leveled off at 2/day it would take 50 days to do 100g and there are 1,000g in a kilo so 500 days?

One thing is for sure, however long it took to use it all, the first days after using the last crumbs is gonna suuuuck.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Chip on July 31, 2016, 01:08:19 AM
I have heard that amounts over 240 mg. Morphine are just wasted as your receptors are fully occupied but the risk of respiratory depression still rises.

Large amounts of Heroin would start to feel like Methadone and you'd lose the euphoria.

Bad idea, not to mention the high risk of OD.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Griffin on July 31, 2016, 07:37:54 AM
I have dreamed about this a lot, an unlimited supply on an island some to smoke, some to shoot, a kilo would probably last a year i'd hope. It makes me wonder about having an iv in 24/7 or what would be the easiest way to not have to poke myself ever so often. I think my dream would be to have oxym and oxyC in the mix as well as I get a different wonderful high from each, oxyc in the morning oxym in the afternoon and dope for bedtime.

I wish I could get a 50g drum of pure oxym powder that they use to make the pharms with. At least that is how I always imagined them making pharms, having a tub of filler and a tub of pure whatever and adding however many mgs of the goods to the filler and it being pressed into pills. More than likely its much more complicated and there isn't some factory full of 50 gallon drums full of pure oxy powder that I am going to stumble upon one day, but I can dream right.

Seriously though living on an island with a huge poppy and coca leave plantation on it next to the house with a few workers there to do all the work making it to whatever I desire, throw in a weed garden and make it far away from the US so they don't bomb me or kill me to protect me from hurting myself in a drug induced haze and I think it would be paradise, add zooey deschanel and the singer from lake street dive and I'd call it heaven maybe have a grape garden to make wine, and grow blue agave for tequila and all the other shit to make beer would be a nice little cherry on top.

The year there is a drought and no way to get off the island and all the drugs have ran dry would be hell. I can't imagine it getting worse than the 280 mg of done per day jailhouse kick I did last year, but wouldn't be surprised how deep the hole of w/d despair goes. Does anyone know if there is a plateau on w/d like if your shooting 100 grams of fent a day would it be the same kick as shooting 1 gram of fent a day? Like you can only flood your recepters so much and rip them clean so quickly that the w/d can't get worse. or does hell haveth no bounds.

I'd hate to be in clinical testing for that. Have they done clinical testing for shit like that, forcing people to w/d to see how bad it is?
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Anti-hero on July 31, 2016, 07:41:25 AM
I could easly go through 8 grams a day
So 125 days
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Z on July 31, 2016, 10:55:14 AM
The more you have, the more you do, the less you get from it -- "dealer habits" are overrated.

Duckfeet made a comment years ago about 60mg MD being about as much as he'd ever want, if he stayed at that level, then he'd still get a little lift in the mornings. Anymore than that, and it's just the same shit every day, drink the juice only cos you gotta drink it.. I totally heard him when he said that.

IME the bigger my habit, the less I enjoy it..


This is so true.  When I was selling and doing gram shots I barely felt it.  You'd get a rush and then meh.  It's like your body is so oversaturated that you just don't get the same out of it.  It's some crazy diminishing results.


Whenever I've had large amounts I start with small, measured doses.  By the end I'm shoveling in spoonfuls of dope.  Spoonfuls go pretty fast, so who knows how long it would last?!?
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Zoops on July 31, 2016, 02:24:55 PM


I wish I could get a 50g drum of pure oxym powder that they use to make the pharms with. At least that is how I always imagined them making pharms, having a tub of filler and a tub of pure whatever and adding however many mgs of the goods to the filler and it being pressed into pills. More than likely its much more complicated and there isn't some factory full of 50 gallon drums full of pure oxy powder that I am going to stumble upon one day, but I can dream right.



In my first semester of pharmacy school, in Richmond VA, we toured the AH Robins pharmaceutical plant, where they make Robitussin, Chapstick, and some prescription pharmaceuticals (quinidine tablets, and Pondimin).

We stopped at a place that had large stainless steel mixing cauldrons, which were about 11 feet high. There was a little stairway up to the top, where some white-jacketed workers were shoveling some white power with large scoops, out a tub of premeasured drugs. I asked the  guide what they were making and he told me that particular production run was for Robitussin AC, the cough syrup with codeine in it. I don't know that the stuff they were shoveling in at the time was, but it might have been codeine phosphate.

At another place in the plant, there was a large cage of chain link fence, inside of which were smallish cardboard drums (about the size of the ones ice cream comes in for like an ice cream parlor - like 20 inches high by 12 inches across), the guide said that inside that cage were controlled substances, that they had to keep locked by Federal regulations. One of these little drums had a label on it that said "Codeine Phosphate," another had "Fenfluramine" (active ingredient in the now-withdrawn diet pill called "Pondimin"). Those were the ones I could read, but there were a bunch inside that cage thing. So, yep, they have drums of that shit in pharmaceutical plants. That would be dream of mine, shit, even to have that drum of just codeine - must have been like 20 pounds or 10Kg inside it.

We also saw the Chapstick production line too. That was the coolest thing there. -------------- NOT!

Chapstick used to say "A.H. Robins, Richmond, VA" on the tube, but American Home Products bought them out that year (1994), which was later bought by Pfizer. Now Chapstick says Pfizer on it.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: candy on July 31, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
I can't say how long it would last. Not long enough that's for sure.
I know I would have a hard time knowing when too much was enough and then you
are left with really no high and the risk of OD.

Yeah, I'll just stick with the chemicals I currently play with and forget about heroin.
Maybe a heroin habit when I am close to death at an old age. Then I doubt I would really care to much
about getting a habit again. Just enjoy the high and if I drop, well at least it will be on my own terms.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Mr.pooper on July 31, 2016, 07:31:02 PM
@Griffin I'm pretty sure the withdrawal rabbit hole just keeps going. I read about one chemist who was synthesizing his own opioid that translated to an insane amount of morphine. Supposedly 500mg of methadone wouldn't even stabilize him when he was busted, and he committed suicide rather than deal with the w/d any longer. I can't recall the guy's name, but I remember reading about it on the phile a few years back and looked into it further. I think I remember he had use like every couple minutes to not be in w/d.

Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: LoneRanger7 on July 31, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
@Griffin I'm pretty sure the withdrawal rabbit hole just keeps going. I read about one chemist who was synthesizing his own opioid that translated to an insane amount of morphine. Supposedly 500mg of methadone wouldn't even stabilize him when he was busted, and he committed suicide rather than deal with the w/d any longer. I can't recall the guy's name, but I remember reading about it on the phile a few years back and looked into it further. I think I remember he had use like every couple minutes to not be in w/d.

I remember that story!  I don't think I heard about the suicide,  though,  just the drug he made and that he got busted.  I'd love to refresh my memory on that story,  if anyone remembers the details.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: traplord69 on July 31, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
There's a guy here that I remember had a pretty similar story.  He was synthesizing basically unlimited quantities of fent and it sounded like it got pretty douchey from what I remember.  I hope he doesnt mind but I think it was robojunkie or something similar, he made a pretty interesting thread about it I think
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Z on July 31, 2016, 10:51:00 PM
I think that douchey is just about the last thing I would call robojunkie but the rest is true.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: traplord69 on August 01, 2016, 12:28:54 AM
I wasn't calling him douchey at all, I was saying that he got into a douchey situation with the limitless opiates, seems like an awesome dude
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Chip on August 01, 2016, 02:46:19 AM
Yeah traplord, I knew what you meant. I can't imagine the horror of withdrawing from all that fent.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: smalls on August 01, 2016, 10:41:28 AM
Wait, I'm confused...  what I think of when I hear "douchey" is frat bros with popped collars. A douchey situation, to my mind, would be a Las Vegas pool party. Is there another way to use the word?
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: traplord69 on August 01, 2016, 12:18:26 PM
Ha you pretty much nailed it.  Its just a word that I like to use for some reason I find it funny.  But yea I usually use it to describe an annoying or unfavorable experience.  You can ever stick super in front of it if you really want to make a point, like "last night got super douchey". 
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Z on August 01, 2016, 12:33:41 PM
It seems like I got old and didn't realize it.  I was thinking the same as smalls, and was trying to figure it out.

I'm trying to remember a line.  Something like: I used to be cool, and then thy changed what cool meant.  Now what I am isn't cool anymore, and what's cool doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Dopeless Hopefiend on August 01, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
There's a guy here that I remember had a pretty similar story.  He was synthesizing basically unlimited quantities of fent and it sounded like it got pretty douchey from what I remember.  I hope he doesnt mind but I think it was robojunkie or something similar, he made a pretty interesting thread about it I think

I actually met a guy when i was still going to the MMT clinic  who had more or less that same story. Given, he could've been totally full of shit but he seemed pretty knowledgeable about chemistry etc. Supposedly he was synthesizing his own fent or a fent analog for a while. Said it was great at first, but his habit got so high that it ended up being pretty fucked especially with fent's short half life. He said that at the end of his run he was having to shoot huge amounts pretty much hourly just to maintain. When he got on MMT he had to take about 300mg a day.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: MoeMentim on August 01, 2016, 06:08:47 PM
a kilo of dope would last me the rest of my life, easy.  my life would be considerably shorter but i'd put money on having some left behind when i'm knocking on the pearly gates.
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: Mr.pooper on August 05, 2016, 05:38:31 PM
a kilo of dope would last me the rest of my life, easy.  my life would be considerably shorter but i'd put money on having some left behind when i'm knocking on the pearly gates.

Wow an entire lifetime, with some left over!

Daily habit or chipper?(not the dancing bear)

How much do you use at a time? Daily average going hard at it?
Title: Re: How long do you think a kilo of heroin would last you?
Post by: MoeMentim on August 05, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
Wow an entire lifetime, with some left over!

Daily habit or chipper?(not the dancing bear)

How much do you use at a time? Daily average going hard at it?

I just meant that if I had a kilo at my disposal I'd most likely od before it ran out.  Presently opiate free, daily average used to hover around a gram a day, tar.
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