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Title: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 17, 2015, 11:35:24 PM
Since the demise of Opiophile, I've been splitting my time between this forum and the opiates section over at reddit.com. Does anyone else frequent that place? The more I post there, the less I can handle it. It has a very Bloolight feel to it. It could just be because I've spent so many years on Opiophile and, to me, Opiophile always seemed to have a much more intelligent user base than most drug-related forums which lead to more intelligent, deep conversations regarding drugs and this life we live.

Over the years, I've learned a ton from Opiophile not only about drugs but about doing thorough research before posting advice especially when you're discussing things such as dangerous narcotics that can potentially kill or harm someone. Spreading misinformation can be very dangerous and that's why I take harm reduction so seriously.

Over in the opiates section of Reddit, I find myself frequently butting heads with people because they post a lot of ignorant drivel and I go around in a futile attempt to help people by posting facts backed up by sources. Not everything that gets posted there is bad but it seems like quite a few posters constantly spread some bad misinformation. Has anyone else that has perused the opiates section over there gotten this feeling or am I the only one? By no means am I attempting to siphon users from this lovely community over to Reddit (quite the opposite, actually), I'm just curious if anyone here has had the same experience as I have over there.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: suboxstitute on August 17, 2015, 11:40:15 PM
Since the demise of Opiophile, I've been splitting my time between this forum and the opiates section over at reddit.com. Does anyone else frequent that place? The more I post there, the less I can handle it. It has a very Bloolight feel to it. It could just be because I've spent so many years on Opiophile and, to me, Opiophile always seemed to have a much more intelligent user base than most drug-related forums which lead to more intelligent, deep conversations regarding drugs and this life we live.

Over the years, I've learned a ton from Opiophile not only about drugs but about doing thorough research before posting advice especially when you're discussing things such as dangerous narcotics that can potentially kill or harm someone. Spreading misinformation can be very dangerous and that's why I take harm reduction so seriously.

Over in the opiates section of Reddit, I find myself frequently butting heads with people because they post a lot of ignorant drivel and I go around in a futile attempt to help people by posting facts backed up by sources. Not everything that gets posted there is bad but it seems like quite a few posters constantly spread some bad misinformation. Has anyone else that has perused the opiates section over there gotten this feeling or am I the only one? By no means am I attempting to siphon users from this lovely community over to Reddit (quite the opposite, actually), I'm just curious if anyone here has had the same experience as I have over there.

Yes.  I did.  Have the same experience you did over at reddit.com/r/opiates.   

Agree with the so much Blooolight feel.  Too frustrating for me to even start trying to debate/argue.

Frankly, it's only opiophile and this forum where I've found the user base (on all matters, not just re: opiates) to be intelligent and backed with data/sources.   
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 12:08:38 AM
Phew! I'm glad I'm not the only one. I've all but given up arguing with the dunces over there. I almost feel bad though because I feel responsible to share the correct information with those that need and/or seek it but it's not worth dealing with the assholes that try and argue the point when you know they're incorrect.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: nick on August 18, 2015, 12:08:57 AM
Taste in sites is subjective. I appreciate other drug user sites and they all have their plus points,but personally,I feel the problem with other sites is scale-they have so many  members that forming relationships is difficult and so they lose any sense of community.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Taste in sites is subjective. I appreciate other drug user sites and they all have their plus points,but personally,I feel the problem with other sites is scale-they have so many  members that forming relationships is difficult and so they lose any sense of community.

That's very true, nick. One thing I loved about Opiophile (and currently love about this place!) is the tight-knit sense of community it offers. However, with that opiates reddit section, it's not necessarily about community (some of the people there seem to know one another just as we do here at D&U/Opiophile) it's about the gross misinformation floating around and the wide acceptance of that misinformation.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Diacetylmorphinefiend on August 18, 2015, 01:35:18 AM
I post at both bluelight and reddit. I find them both enjoyable for different reasons. Reddit has some excellent writers who's blogs are on point.(morbo,Tracey, and a few others.). They also have loose rules on sourcing meet ups and stuff so that can be useful. As for bluelight I've been posting there forever and it just feels like home even though the site has gone a little flat over the years. 
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: neighbor on August 18, 2015, 02:26:13 AM
they all have their merits, nick's response was right on

though some websites glorify drug use a lot more than others, with reddit probably being the worst.

they just seem like the youngest or most naive drug users online, glorifying it the hardest. and since its just a subforum for a much more popular website, it gets a shitload of play.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 04:47:23 AM
they just seem like the youngest or most naive drug users online, glorifying it the hardest.

This sums up my experience there extremely well. A good portion of the people who post in /r/opiates seem to be extremely young and naive. Not all of them of course, but a good majority of them. Over the last week or so (I just recently discovered /r/opiates) I've been posting there much more frequently attempting to spread good HR information but a lot of it seems to fall on deaf ears. Oh well.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: monkawat on August 18, 2015, 05:17:37 AM
Once the phile went down permanently I immediately went and checked out reddit's opiates area, hoping I'd find phile members or at least an intelligent, supportive community.

I read two threads.Then I left.

Tracey from Black Tar Heroin (HBO doc) seems to be the only real HR promoting individual on the whole site.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 05:58:25 AM
Once the phile went down permanently I immediately went and checked out reddit's opiates area, hoping I'd find phile members or at least an intelligent, supportive community.

I read two threads.Then I left.

Tracey from Black Tar Heroin (HBO doc) seems to be the only real HR promoting individual on the whole site.

I was wondering if it was THAT Tracey. I totally remember that doc and her in particular and heard she was on Reddit but I wasn't sure if she was the one posting in /r/opiates or not. That's pretty cool. I know how you feel, though. I was really underwhelmed by the topics of conversation on /r/opiates. As neighbor mentioned, it seems to be a collection of young, naive users. However, that's essentially why I stayed and started posting. I figured those kinds of people are the ones that need legitimate HR advice the most. There were quite a few people posting idiotic questions and stuff and the more I read, the more I felt inclined to help because they really, really need it. I get quite sick of it rather quick so I have to take long breaks from reading/posting but I can't stand when there's that much misinformation, especially regarding HR, being spread.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Güey on August 18, 2015, 09:30:33 AM
Ah, good old reddit. There are some cool, knowledgeable people there, don't get me wrong, but for the most part its a shit-show of epic proportions. I spend most of my time there laughing and cringeing... but in reality, there are lots of folks there that are in serious, dire, urgent need of some harm reduction advice...

On a side note, a really cool- but iñactive- sub is r/OurOverUsedVeins. It's geared towards IV heroin, and it has the best sub name ever, but its pretty much dead, unfortunately....
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Narkotikon on August 18, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
R/opiates does seem very juvenile in that a lot of members are still in that "love affair" stage of their addiction.  When you're still getting high after every single use.  The world / life seems great on opiates.  You've not gone through a ton of w/d yet.  You don't realize how anything bad could ever come from using.

A couple hard, cold-turkey w/ds will set them straight.  Or, their first time sucking dick for a bag (j/k).

There are some HR threads, but they're overshadowed by scoring stories, drug porn pics, etc.

Don't fight it Bhoris.  It will only frustrate you and drive you up a wall.  You can't help people who don't want it.  Hopefully they'll learn in time. 
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 10:46:21 PM
Ah, good old reddit. There are some cool, knowledgeable people there, don't get me wrong, but for the most part its a shit-show of epic proportions. I spend most of my time there laughing and cringeing... but in reality, there are lots of folks there that are in serious, dire, urgent need of some harm reduction advice...

On a side note, a really cool- but iñactive- sub is r/OurOverUsedVeins. It's geared towards IV heroin, and it has the best sub name ever, but its pretty much dead, unfortunately....

Precisely. It does seem like there are quite a few folks there who are in some serious need of legitimate HR advice which is why I thought I'd try and help out. Although, as Nark said, you can't help people who don't want it.

That is a BAD ASS subreddit name! I'll have to give it a browse. Maybe we can jump start it because it'd be a shame for a subreddit with that name to die out.

R/opiates does seem very juvenile in that a lot of members are still in that "love affair" stage of their addiction.  When you're still getting high after every single use.  The world / life seems great on opiates.  You've not gone through a ton of w/d yet.  You don't realize how anything bad could ever come from using.

A couple hard, cold-turkey w/ds will set them straight.  Or, their first time sucking dick for a bag (j/k).

There are some HR threads, but they're overshadowed by scoring stories, drug porn pics, etc.

Don't fight it Bhoris.  It will only frustrate you and drive you up a wall.  You can't help people who don't want it.  Hopefully they'll learn in time.

So, so true. Trying to help some of the people over there has already frustrated me quite a bit, to be completely honest. You're totally right, you can't help people who don't want it. That's why I'm going to stick mostly to helping those who actually ask or seek out HR advice instead of posting HR advice on every single post that has horrible misinformation through out it, which is the majority of them it seems. I don't know why I care so much but it irks me that there is so much horrible information being spread around that place and people actually accepting that misinformation as fact.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Zoops on August 18, 2015, 11:13:53 PM
I have tried to read through some of those inane posts, like "how do you smoke Percocet 30's [sic] the correct way?" But I can't see the story for all the SWIM's (specially on Bluelight).

These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on August 18, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.

Amen, brother!
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: OxyOpanaAlphaOmega on August 19, 2015, 12:57:18 PM
These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.

Amen, brother!



You are mother fuckin right on!

We are the old heads the long term the ones who know what it really all is,
We couldn't get high on a bottle of Vicodin
We wonder why the opana IV just feels like water
We know what stamps feel like
Black feels like
China white feels like
We know dilaudid
Some know diconal

We know methadone
We KNOW withdrawal
We know the potential era of new junkies coming and they think it's all cloud nine

I'm proud to be around all of you
I'm proud to see you all talking and conversing and using this forum
It's small but the people here
This isn't opio this isnt blue light this isn't any other place but

D&U
AND I don't even think we know what we have created here
What this will become
This will become the single most in depth drug forum on the net having to do with opiates
Just takes some time but no other community has such vetted members
Congrats to this place

Seriously
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Chip on August 19, 2015, 03:32:30 PM
These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.

Amen, brother!

the bulk of the forum members here are certainly professional, long standing mature users.

what we have is a very cool collection of drug users that think alike on many related subjects.

But the site is only tiny and I kind of like the coziness that comes with that.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: suboxstitute on August 20, 2015, 12:08:05 AM
These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.

Amen, brother!



You are mother fuckin right on!

We are the old heads the long term the ones who know what it really all is,
We couldn't get high on a bottle of Vicodin
We wonder why the opana IV just feels like water
We know what stamps feel like
Black feels like
China white feels like
We know dilaudid
Some know diconal

We know methadone
We KNOW withdrawal
We know the potential era of new junkies coming and they think it's all cloud nine

I'm proud to be around all of you
I'm proud to see you all talking and conversing and using this forum
It's small but the people here
This isn't opio this isnt blue light this isn't any other place but

D&U
AND I don't even think we know what we have created here
What this will become
This will become the single most in depth drug forum on the net having to do with opiates
Just takes some time but no other community has such vetted members
Congrats to this place

Seriously

WOW this is a poem!
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Z on August 20, 2015, 12:20:02 AM
There are some diamonds hidden away in r/opiates, but there is a lot of folks new to opiates etc.  In a way it is good.  If anyone needs hr advice it is the new users, and new injectors.

I dont get into wars there.  In fact I dont post much at all there.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: odd on August 22, 2015, 08:32:24 AM
Once the phile went down permanently I immediately went and checked out reddit's opiates area, hoping I'd find phile members or at least an intelligent, supportive community.

I read two threads.Then I left.

Tracey from Black Tar Heroin (HBO doc) seems to be the only real HR promoting individual on the whole site.

Yup this!
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: jdub on August 22, 2015, 01:56:52 PM
I started posting there a month or three back. I personally signed up just for the morbo stories.

Tracey's naloxone distro program over there is amazing. I believe she's distributed narcan that has been used to revive ~120 people at this point. That right there is fucking cool.

This happened: https://www.reddit.com/r/opiates/comments/3gz4oo/a_moral_hypothetical_question/cu3dq5g
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Chip on August 22, 2015, 02:03:51 PM
dont forget to drill deeper into our opiates subforum - we will be adding more boards as required or requested.

somebody must've pointed people to our forum because we keep getting more members.

*crosses fingers*
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Z on August 22, 2015, 02:44:47 PM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: theSWPK on August 22, 2015, 05:22:21 PM
These folks here are the real heads, OGs and master dope fiends. That's. It.

Amen, brother!

Hold the fucking phone. Clearly you aren't doing IV opana correctly. Once you've been slamming the big boy doses of that shit, heroin feels like water.



And for the love of dog, nobody mention this site over in that shitshow

You are mother fuckin right on!

We are the old heads the long term the ones who know what it really all is,
We couldn't get high on a bottle of Vicodin
We wonder why the opana IV just feels like water
We know what stamps feel like
Black feels like
China white feels like
We know dilaudid
Some know diconal

We know methadone
We KNOW withdrawal
We know the potential era of new junkies coming and they think it's all cloud nine

I'm proud to be around all of you
I'm proud to see you all talking and conversing and using this forum
It's small but the people here
This isn't opio this isnt blue light this isn't any other place but

D&U
AND I don't even think we know what we have created here
What this will become
This will become the single most in depth drug forum on the net having to do with opiates
Just takes some time but no other community has such vetted members
Congrats to this place

Seriously
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: nick on August 23, 2015, 02:37:43 AM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.

We are ? Wow!

and thanks for sticking the link on Dizzle's reddit thread-I figure a fair few opiophile refuges will come through that.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Zoops on August 24, 2015, 02:38:08 PM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.

 What terms did you search to find that?

I searched "opiates forum" and didn't get anything close, then "opiate addiction forum," still no dice.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Chip on August 24, 2015, 02:47:30 PM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.

 What terms did you search to find that?

I searched "opiates forum" and didn't get anything close, then "opiate addiction forum," still no dice.

me too, no luck ... it's a nice thought though !
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Z on August 24, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
It was when I wrote it.  Not anymore apparently.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Chip on August 24, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
It was when I wrote it.  Not anymore apparently.

even momentarily gives me hope. thanks.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Diacetylmorphinefiend on September 16, 2015, 09:10:26 PM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.

 What terms did you search to find that?

I searched "opiates forum" and didn't get anything close, then "opiate addiction forum," still no dice.
Found it https://www.reddit.com/r/opiates/comments/3dcqp1/johnney_says_opiophile_closed_permanently/?


the link is in the comments.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: jdub on September 16, 2015, 09:30:58 PM
I know that I posted the address in dizzle's fuck you opiophile thread.

You are also top of the heap on google search for opiate forum.

 What terms did you search to find that?

I searched "opiates forum" and didn't get anything close, then "opiate addiction forum," still no dice.
Found it https://www.reddit.com/r/opiates/comments/3dcqp1/johnney_says_opiophile_closed_permanently/?


the link is in the comments.

They were talking about the forum showing up in google results.

GenEral question- Why would the forum show up once in the google search results for Z and never again.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Diacetylmorphinefiend on September 16, 2015, 10:00:59 PM
Oh my bad.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Bhoris on September 16, 2015, 10:32:06 PM
GenEral question- Why would the forum show up once in the google search results for Z and never again.

It wouldn't. Unless another site took over the top spot or top few spots. Z must have either searched for a different term that yielded different results or he just said that to make Chip feel good.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Z on September 16, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
I had searched for the site earlier thatcdllay.  It did pop up at the top of the search that time.  Maybe the search remembered some of the more specific yes I had used before and silently added them again as secret sauce.  The search  algorithm they use is largely unknow

Oh, and I'm not lying.  I can be many things, but a liar is not onef them.
Title: Re: reddit.com/r/opiates
Post by: Zoops on September 24, 2015, 08:05:19 PM
I had searched for the site earlier thatcdllay.  It did pop up at the top of the search that time.  Maybe the search remembered some of the more specific yes I had used before and silently added them again as secret sauce.  The search  algorithm they use is largely unknow

Oh, and I'm not lying.  I can be many things, but a liar is not onef them.

That's impossible. Everyone lies. Hey we have someone here who never lies, people! Let's get him!

Just bustin your balls there, Z. I believe that you weren't lying about that particular thing, but isn't it a bit grandiose to say you're "not a liar?" I mean how many times have you ever told a mistruth or left information out of what you were telling someone?

You just got repped, buddy.
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