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A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« on: December 01, 2016, 08:35:05 AM »
In my sick hast I did something so fucking retarded.  There's like .7cc of rubbing alcohol mixed with a fucking Dilaudid. Can I just let that shit evaporate and add the water to the "residue" or am I just fucked outa that shit.  God damnit.
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2016, 08:45:39 AM »
You got it.  Rubbing alcohol will evaporate in air.  You can speed it up with some gentle heating, but be careful of it setting itself on fire if that's the case.  If you can you should make sure it's bone dry before adding water.
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2016, 08:53:00 AM »
Thank God I had 2 so I'm not sick waiting.   I'm just hoping by the morning it's okay.  But it's so weird how differently it broke up in the alc.  Like for ppl not familiar with Dilaudid 8mg shields, they dissolve in water better than any other pill or substance I've ever seen its weird.  But in the alc it's like almost looks like oil and water.  Half is white and I'm guessing the alc is remaining clear and rising to the top. Sorry I was freaking out Incase I had to do sometging quickly but wasn't sure what.  I'm a relatively intelligent dude, but wow in a rush from being sick I can do the most retarded shit apparently...
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2016, 10:43:44 AM »
Youre fine dude. I used to do an iso tek on oxymorphone ERs. You can evaporate that off in less than 15 min very carefully with a candle. I used to have so many candles in my room I felt like a fucking witch or something. Lol I had this HUGE candle that would be burning for hours every day. The alcohol wont mix with certain parts of the pill but I believe it will absorb the opies, so yeah just evap then go like normal. I used to do iso > filter > evap > water > filter > shoot and sometimes even double filter. Took forever but was worth it to shoot oxymorph.
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2016, 10:47:58 AM »
If you're going to hold alcohol over a flame make sure that it's in a container with walls and start at least a foot over the flame.  You can lower it closer a bit to control the heat if you have to.  Having something like a lid to cover your container to put out the fire you will probably cause in your container the first time is a good idea.  Don't panic when it catches on fire.  Just cover it and starve the flame of oxygen.


EDIT: Take it off the heat if you're going to cover it obviously.  There are better options and I should have given them.  Read the whole thread.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2016, 10:26:21 PM by Z »
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 10:46:44 PM »
Least you didn't say fuck it and shoot it. Had a friend do that once and they got pretty sick .
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2016, 01:51:57 AM »
Having something like a lid to cover your container to put out the fire you will probably cause in your container the first time is a good idea.

How about just not boiling alcohol in a closed system? What you're talking about doing is basically constructing a bomb, in-situ.

Thit post is just flat dangerous - with those directions, someday someone is gonna lose an arm.

This board is safety oriented? Not with garbage like that it ain't -- I'm on my way out for a few hours, so if you reply it might take a bit -- in the meantime, no alcohol fires in closed systems, k?
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2016, 02:25:25 AM »
Having something like a lid to cover your container to put out the fire you will probably cause in your container the first time is a good idea.

How about just not boiling alcohol in a closed system? What you're talking about doing is basically constructing a bomb, in-situ.

Thit post is just flat dangerous - with those directions, someday someone is gonna lose an arm.

This board is safety oriented? Not with garbage like that it ain't -- I'm on my way out for a few hours, so if you reply it might take a bit -- in the meantime, no alcohol fires in closed systems, k?

You got a better idea to put an alcohol fire out? You can trash the idea, but I'd suggest an alternative to just panicking because there's a pot of alcohol on fire.

He isn't saying to boil in a closed system, he's saying to have something handy to put it out.

Wouldn't a wet towel work instead? I know you'd risk sucking up drug Saturated alcohol, so it's certainly not the best idea, but it's an alternative to using a lid (EA thinks it's gonna blow up putting fire out with a lid. I don't know, but do see why it could blow up) but a towel would let gas thru I think and still put fire out
I'm sure there's a better idea that won't run the risk of losing drugs but until someone suggest it, it's the best I got
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2016, 11:14:22 AM »
Having something like a lid to cover your container to put out the fire you will probably cause in your container the first time is a good idea.

How about just not boiling alcohol in a closed system? What you're talking about doing is basically constructing a bomb, in-situ.

Thit post is just flat dangerous - with those directions, someday someone is gonna lose an arm.

This board is safety oriented? Not with garbage like that it ain't -- I'm on my way out for a few hours, so if you reply it might take a bit -- in the meantime, no alcohol fires in closed systems, k?

You got a better idea to put an alcohol fire out? You can trash the idea, but I'd suggest an alternative to just panicking because there's a pot of alcohol on fire.

He isn't saying to boil in a closed system, he's saying to have something handy to put it out.

Wouldn't a wet towel work instead? I know you'd risk sucking up drug Saturated alcohol, so it's certainly not the best idea, but it's an alternative to using a lid (EA thinks it's gonna blow up putting fire out with a lid. I don't know, but do see why it could blow up) but a towel would let gas thru I think and still put fire out
I'm sure there's a better idea that won't run the risk of losing drugs but until someone suggest it, it's the best I got

Like a dumbass I just od'd on valium again, which is what happened the last time I got into it with Z (like, major OD - I think I'm ok, but I'm kinda fucked for a couple days here). Similar situation almost killed me last week ( I can hear the cheering in the background).

I made that last post quickly as I was leaving the house, thought about it while I was driving and decided that I wished I would have waited and not rushed it, because it's not a very well-defined or simple scenario we're talking about.

Wet towels are kinda mandatory in that environment, and def. a good idea, but my fear -- more than fire -- is explosion. I'm not looking at this as a specific procedure or rxn, I haven't used ISO to pull HM before, I'm thinking about chemistry in general; so, oxygen may not be your only problem. Your biggest risk could be something being generated with or w/out your knowledge. It could be generated underneath the wet towel; my entire point here was: *avoid boiling alcohol (OH) with open flames* -- it's that simple. Many of them boil at temps less than water does.

Again, I feel like I posted too soon here, so I apologize to Z for being a dick. I don't have a lot of time or energy for arguments these days and I'm not here to troll.

That said, heating alcohol beyond it's boiling point using an open-flame is fucking *DUMB* unless you've got some proper glass and lab training.

The reason I commented about closed vs. open; is because of things like 'backdraft' occurences; basically starve a fire down to where it's barely burning at all, then open it to atmosphere -- do that right and *boom*

How about fuck open flames and alcohol and instead use things like.... hot: water, cooking oil, sand, steel shot, gravel, etc.... See how many options there are other than *OPEN* fucking flames? You know the wet towel is a nice after-thought, hopefully the hot, flying glass doesn't fux yer eyeballs before you get to the towel. I think it's probably better to just quash that explosion before you even conceive it tho..

Chemistry lab fires are scary animals, reactions create new and exciting species that can even react again, and again; sometimes with new and exciting properties every time!

So figure out how warm the OH you need, heat up some cooking oil a bit above the temp you need the alcohol to be, and use the oil bath to heat yer shit -- flame free. Messy, but much safer.

In order to emphasize my attitudes here, sincerely; I'm not looking for war. I read dumb shit and can't help reacting sometimes, which is my fault, not yours, and this time admittedly, probably too soon on my part -- *but* my primary point remains and I think it stands; heating alcohol with an open flame is *asking* for it brother, begging for it, right in the face.

I'd hate to learn about a lab accident that affected one of our own like this, that would suck :(
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2016, 11:56:55 AM »
Dumb old me was doing an iso extraction with pot and I thought I could hurry up the evaporation ...

Flames everywhere so I carried it outside and experienced the worst burns in my life, to my hand.

In retrospect I should've just waited until it stopped burning but the fiend in me wanted to save my THC.

Stupidity +++ !
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2016, 12:09:54 PM »
Sorry to hear about your Valium OD, that's why I'm always the annoying dude always warning ppl about benzos. As I just downed 7 bars & 2 zolpidem. 

Anyway, I just let the alcohol evaporate and added water to the residue and my shot was fine.
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2016, 04:17:25 PM »
Esoteric , I am happy we have very knowledgeable  peeps like you here. Very informative for me as I never thought to use the process you suggested. Thanks in advance friend...
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2016, 09:10:19 PM »
@Esoteric Anhydride   Yeah, im very glad you're still with us post Valium-OD.  I haven't had the honor of becoming closer friends with anybody on here I do appreciate the knowledge usually associated with many of your posts.  So I'm not gonna say corny exaggerated shit but I can say with all certainty you'd be greatly missed and with a personal struggle with not just a couple ODs under my belt but also a fight with depression accompanied by suicidal thoughts I love ya man and I'm glad you'e still stuck with us  :P
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2016, 10:24:03 PM »
Having something like a lid to cover your container to put out the fire you will probably cause in your container the first time is a good idea.

How about just not boiling alcohol in a closed system? What you're talking about doing is basically constructing a bomb, in-situ.

Thit post is just flat dangerous - with those directions, someday someone is gonna lose an arm.

This board is safety oriented? Not with garbage like that it ain't -- I'm on my way out for a few hours, so if you reply it might take a bit -- in the meantime, no alcohol fires in closed systems, k?

You got a better idea to put an alcohol fire out? You can trash the idea, but I'd suggest an alternative to just panicking because there's a pot of alcohol on fire.

He isn't saying to boil in a closed system, he's saying to have something handy to put it out.

Wouldn't a wet towel work instead? I know you'd risk sucking up drug Saturated alcohol, so it's certainly not the best idea, but it's an alternative to using a lid (EA thinks it's gonna blow up putting fire out with a lid. I don't know, but do see why it could blow up) but a towel would let gas thru I think and still put fire out
I'm sure there's a better idea that won't run the risk of losing drugs but until someone suggest it, it's the best I got

Like a dumbass I just od'd on valium again, which is what happened the last time I got into it with Z (like, major OD - I think I'm ok, but I'm kinda fucked for a couple days here). Similar situation almost killed me last week ( I can hear the cheering in the background).

I made that last post quickly as I was leaving the house, thought about it while I was driving and decided that I wished I would have waited and not rushed it, because it's not a very well-defined or simple scenario we're talking about.

Wet towels are kinda mandatory in that environment, and def. a good idea, but my fear -- more than fire -- is explosion. I'm not looking at this as a specific procedure or rxn, I haven't used ISO to pull HM before, I'm thinking about chemistry in general; so, oxygen may not be your only problem. Your biggest risk could be something being generated with or w/out your knowledge. It could be generated underneath the wet towel; my entire point here was: *avoid boiling alcohol (OH) with open flames* -- it's that simple. Many of them boil at temps less than water does.

Again, I feel like I posted too soon here, so I apologize to Z for being a dick. I don't have a lot of time or energy for arguments these days and I'm not here to troll.

That said, heating alcohol beyond it's boiling point using an open-flame is fucking *DUMB* unless you've got some proper glass and lab training.

The reason I commented about closed vs. open; is because of things like 'backdraft' occurences; basically starve a fire down to where it's barely burning at all, then open it to atmosphere -- do that right and *boom*

How about fuck open flames and alcohol and instead use things like.... hot: water, cooking oil, sand, steel shot, gravel, etc.... See how many options there are other than *OPEN* fucking flames? You know the wet towel is a nice after-thought, hopefully the hot, flying glass doesn't fux yer eyeballs before you get to the towel. I think it's probably better to just quash that explosion before you even conceive it tho..

Chemistry lab fires are scary animals, reactions create new and exciting species that can even react again, and again; sometimes with new and exciting properties every time!

So figure out how warm the OH you need, heat up some cooking oil a bit above the temp you need the alcohol to be, and use the oil bath to heat yer shit -- flame free. Messy, but much safer.

In order to emphasize my attitudes here, sincerely; I'm not looking for war. I read dumb shit and can't help reacting sometimes, which is my fault, not yours, and this time admittedly, probably too soon on my part -- *but* my primary point remains and I think it stands; heating alcohol with an open flame is *asking* for it brother, begging for it, right in the face.

I'd hate to learn about a lab accident that affected one of our own like this, that would suck :(


I agree with you but I think you're taking it a bit far.  I assumed that most people would take something with flames shooting out of it off the heat.  You're probably right that some wouldn't.  I didn't suggest heating it over a candle.  I just tried to give some safety tips since someone else talked about doing it over candles.  That's actually the definition of harm reduction I think.  If you're going to do it then be careful like this.


Suggesting an oil bath on a drug forum seems a bit much.  I would probably suggest a hot glass of tap water before that.  Let's be honest though and realize that most addicts would heat a spoon full of rubbing alcohol with a lighter and then wonder why there is liquid fire everywhere.  I just wanted to prepare people for what heating it over a candle was and give some super basic advice.  I'll add take it off the heat just for you.  My opinion of people's intelligence must be a bit too high.

Also, we aren't talking about lab work.  We are talking about less then a ml of alcohol that he wants to evaporate.  Nobody is doing that in boro labware on a drug users forum.  I think you lost perspective of the question while you were trying to explain your anger.

Stop trying to pick a fight with me man.  I'm really not interested.



« Last Edit: December 03, 2016, 10:28:31 PM by Z »
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Re: A straight up barrel of alcohol.. rubbing. Chem dudes help?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2016, 02:24:46 AM »
@Esoteric Anhydride  Great Post!
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