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Core Topics => Opiates & Opioids => Drugs => Oxymorphone => Topic started by: OCKfromthePhile on August 19, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
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So I was able to obtain some 40mg opana ERs for $5 a piece.
They are the new formulation, and the ones I have have a 40 on one side and and E on the other, and are kind of a light yellowish in color.
I have read conflicting reports on how to prep these for IV, and if it can even be done.
I wish opiophile was still online right about now.
Please, someone chime in, point me in the right direction, or something.
I am getting sick, and have 10 of these to do something with. I know eating them is next to a waste.
Can these be crisped? If so, how, exactly, is it done?
Can I just soak in alcohol for 12 or so hours and then inject the remaining liquid?
These are basically crush proof, and take a Hella long time to grind up.
I have popped a few, in hopes to subside the withdrawals long enough until I can find an IV tek I trust.
And since Opiophile is down, you guys are the only ones I will take advice from when it comes to something like this.
Any information at all is helpful and more than welcome.
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PLEASE DO NOT INJECT THESE! they can cause an user to develope an illness called thrombocytopenia purpura
Without going into details of the studies it is very very dangerous and CAUSED directly from IV opana ER
the only thing I've heard to do with with is the grind them with a dremel tool in a large bowl and sniff the dust you create with that!
I know how worthless, the ONLY thing I could think of is this: if I didn't have a dog nail file tool or a dremel
I would soak them in coke (small amount like 10mL) and leave it there for 12 hours and plug that solution
I don't know if this works
I've never done it
I do know that the original 91% ISO extraction, DOES NOT WORK on the impax opana, I'm sorry to say
I also do not believe the can be crisped but maybe they can, but remember don't IV them at all!
You got them very cheap so take them orally, I've heard you cut them with razor and leave them in your mouth for a long while they disolve
I'm sorry looks like the new opana they finally got the abuse proof right
Take care
Be smart it's not worth the High to try to IV
ooao
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yeah ill second don't IV them. i had E 15's and honestly I don't even know how people managed to IV them (and i had opiophile to give me several methods to try) you cannot crush those fucking things. i ended up dremmeling a cpl of them and snorting them and getting nothing, but i will say i tried ISO and everything i could think of to try and shoot them (despite the warnings about ppl getting nasty blood clotting disorders from them) and i was not able to get a usable shot. dont waste your time trying
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Do you guys think these take the cake for "most worthless reformulation"?
OP's seem like a dream in comparison. Could just be b/c oc is way more active orally.
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proven way to iv opana and have crystal clear shots
Supplies- 2-1 cc syringes
epsom salt
dremel w/ a grinding bit
needle nose pliers
bench vise
pills to use
rag or shirt( to help remove coating)
spoon or other cooker
32 0z styrofoam cup
1) prep opana pills by sucking on them from 20-45 seconds, removing frequently and rubbing off the outer coating
2)once coating is removed, place pill in bench-vise or pliers and proceed to flatten the pill as much as possible (this will aid in grinding later)
3) de-attach the grinding wheel from dremel and use the base to poke a hole in the bottom of the cup, leaving the grinding wheel inside the styrofoam cup, and the base of the dremel on the cups underside.
4) grip your flattened panda in your needle nose pliers and turn on the dremel to high speed
5) insert pliers and pill into cup and begin to shave the pill with the grinding zone.
6)after pill is fully ground remove the grinding wheel and empty the contents of the styrofoam cup onto a dark colored plate or material ( i prefer a dark colored plate because it makes seeing all of the ground material much easier.
AT this point you can take the finely ground powder and mix it with either tylenol or benadryl and snort the mixture, which produces a pleasant high as oxymorphone's bio-availability inter-nasally is much higher then other R.O.A's besides IV'ing. The adding of the Benadryl or Tylenol helps prevent gelling in the nose and makes insuffilation much more enjoyable. ( sidenote: if snorting do smaller lines that stick in your nasal cavity as not to cause a drip, all drips enter your stomach and then are processed through first pass enzymatic function in the liver, as well as all other oral r.o.a's)
7) if iv'ing the mixture prepare 125ml of fresh water in your rigs ( this will be used momentarily)
8) after placing the desired amount of powder in the spoon sprinkle with roughly the same amount of epsom salt. (this will help defeat the tamper resistant matrix)
9) add 125 ml water and begin to heat the mixture till the water is simmering.
10) at this point remove from heat and begin to mix up all the pill gunk and water together to properly wash the oxymorphone out of the powder.
11) push all of the pill gunk aside and your left with a nice crystal clear shot of oxymorphone, with a few possible extra washes left in the pill goo.
12) hit a sweet spot and nods away
there is another method as well that may provide slightly better results but i will only discuss them through p,
best of luck,
Hooley
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That method is for the older formulations or current new generics using said formulation.
Best method for the tamper proofs is to plug them in a solution.
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proven way to iv opana and have crystal clear shots
Supplies- 2-1 cc syringes
epsom salt
dremel w/ a grinding bit
needle nose pliers
bench vise
pills to use
rag or shirt( to help remove coating)
spoon or other cooker
32 0z styrofoam cup
1) prep opana pills by sucking on them from 20-45 seconds, removing frequently and rubbing off the outer coating
2)once coating is removed, place pill in bench-vise or pliers and proceed to flatten the pill as much as possible (this will aid in grinding later)
3) de-attach the grinding wheel from dremel and use the base to poke a hole in the bottom of the cup, leaving the grinding wheel inside the styrofoam cup, and the base of the dremel on the cups underside.
4) grip your flattened panda in your needle nose pliers and turn on the dremel to high speed
5) insert pliers and pill into cup and begin to shave the pill with the grinding zone.
6)after pill is fully ground remove the grinding wheel and empty the contents of the styrofoam cup onto a dark colored plate or material ( i prefer a dark colored plate because it makes seeing all of the ground material much easier.
AT this point you can take the finely ground powder and mix it with either tylenol or benadryl and snort the mixture, which produces a pleasant high as oxymorphone's bio-availability inter-nasally is much higher then other R.O.A's besides IV'ing. The adding of the Benadryl or Tylenol helps prevent gelling in the nose and makes insuffilation much more enjoyable. ( sidenote: if snorting do smaller lines that stick in your nasal cavity as not to cause a drip, all drips enter your stomach and then are processed through first pass enzymatic function in the liver, as well as all other oral r.o.a's)
7) if iv'ing the mixture prepare 125ml of fresh water in your rigs ( this will be used momentarily)
8) after placing the desired amount of powder in the spoon sprinkle with roughly the same amount of epsom salt. (this will help defeat the tamper resistant matrix)
9) add 125 ml water and begin to heat the mixture till the water is simmering.
10) at this point remove from heat and begin to mix up all the pill gunk and water together to properly wash the oxymorphone out of the powder.
11) push all of the pill gunk aside and your left with a nice crystal clear shot of oxymorphone, with a few possible extra washes left in the pill goo.
12) hit a sweet spot and nods away
there is another method as well that may provide slightly better results but i will only discuss them through p,
best of luck,
Hooley
Snorting Tylenol isn't really a great idea
Neither is snorting benadryl
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That method is for the older formulations or current new generics using said formulation.
Best method for the tamper proofs is to plug them in a solution.
Anyone have experience in epsom salt vs. iso extraction of the new generics? Might be worth its own thread, but I've love to hear if any of you have done both and what you prefer and why.
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Yeah j dub he is talking the trf opanas not the nice new generics. New generic ones are a dream and can be prepped like any easy as pie pill.
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No i use this method on the new endo bio-convex opanas, it works great. i just ran through 10 30's
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That method is for the older formulations or current new generics using said formulation.
Best method for the tamper proofs is to plug them in a solution.
Anyone have experience in epsom salt vs. iso extraction of the new generics? Might be worth its own thread, but I've love to hear if any of you have done both and what you prefer and why.
ive tried iso extraction, ive tried cooking the gel/water without salt as well and got a spoon of unusable snot, but i haven't tried adding salt into the mix. it didnt seem like there was any point since they seem so dramatically different from the mscontin's and i wasn't getting remotely close to something usable
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Yeah j dub he is talking the trf opanas not the nice new generics. New generic ones are a dream and can be prepped like any easy as pie pill.
No the new generic ER's (global pharma) require an iso or epsom salt extraction. The IR's are the really easy one's
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That method is for the older formulations or current new generics using said formulation.
Best method for the tamper proofs is to plug them in a solution.
Anyone have experience in epsom salt vs. iso extraction of the new generics? Might be worth its own thread, but I've love to hear if any of you have done both and what you prefer and why.
ive tried iso extraction, ive tried cooking the gel/water without salt as well and got a spoon of unusable snot, but i haven't tried adding salt into the mix. it didnt seem like there was any point since they seem so dramatically different from the mscontin's and i wasn't getting remotely close to something usable
I'm reasonably happy with the iso extraction, but I saw a vid on reddit of the epsom salt method, and it looked a little bit easier. Just wondering if the end results are similar in effect.
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the reddit iso extraction was in response to a question i had posted about when i got the new opana, the Epsom salt is the only 100% percent method that i have for the extraction, because the epsom salt prevents the gel matrix from forming. there is a method that combines the epsom salt and the crisping method, that i have had great success wtih and never once was left with a jelly mess.
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jdub do you have a link to that epsom salt video? I'm gunna try out the iso extraction tonight on some Global Pharm and some Actavis ones. I pretty much stopped buying opana because my tolerance got to the point where it was pointless because snorting the amount I needed just made my nose a mess of congealed gel. Think I might start getting them on the regular again though if this works out.
One question though - I assume it's possible to cut up the resultant product from the extraction to snort it, correct? I've tried shooting a couple of times, but it's so hard for me to hit a vein having never done it before and I don't have any friends who shoot up in the Bay.
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jdub do you have a link to that epsom salt video? I'm gunna try out the iso extraction tonight on some Global Pharm and some Actavis ones. I pretty much stopped buying opana because my tolerance got to the point where it was pointless because snorting the amount I needed just made my nose a mess of congealed gel. Think I might start getting them on the regular again though if this works out.
One question though - I assume it's possible to cut up the resultant product from the extraction to snort it, correct? I've tried shooting a couple of times, but it's so hard for me to hit a vein having never done it before and I don't have any friends who shoot up in the Bay.
I don't. I saw it 1x and haven't been able to find it again. It's basically a pinch of Epsom salt in a spoon w/ opana and water. I believe a lighter was used to cook the shot but I'm really not sure
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To those considering shooting up the plastic/trf formula of opana, be advised that bad shit can happen. I'm not talking about the blood disorder, I'm speaking of is what I believe to be a severe allergic reaction.
I was one of the unlucky few that had this reaction:
First time trying opana trf (plastic) I shot 2-4mg to test it out. I felt a small rush but a very odd rush followed immediately after. It became hard to breathe and I felt an immense pressure building in my head. My ears started popping in rapid succession and my eyes went heavily bloodshot. I honestly thought I was going to die.
This was NOT an overdose as I was normally shooting 12 times the amount I tested with.
This happened from the dremmel/pedal egg + Crisping method and again a few days later when I did a 48 hour acidic water soak follow by filtering the final clear product with .22ų wheel filter followed by a .02ų filter. Shot came out clear as water and without gel - still gave me the reaction.
I have only met 2 other people irl and a few online 6who experienced the same frightening results.
So please please please start small!
Just to be clear, I'm only referring to the brand name Endo Opana TRF (plastics), not the Actavis ERs (half moons) and Global Pharms ERs (G54/57 etc.). Those two can be extracted just like the stop signs and are just fine.
Anybody here get a bad reaction like me? Just curious.
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Bloody hell! That would have been pretty damn scary! Not often anything like that happens after a shot!
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anaphylaxis, I think it's called.
I had a buddy who would react to the binders in normal OTC pills - he had to get adrenaline before his airways closed completely.
his whole face would puff up - scary shit - straight to the medical fraternity or die from asphyxiation.
it wasn't random but might as well have been.
that's the worse case scenario and it's only the shit WITH the pills and not the drug itself.
what a freak out ! glad you survived. maybe you need an "epipen" or something to inject adrenaline when trying new meds ?
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It was horrifying, I wrote "NO NARCAN, NOT AN OVERDOSE" on my left arm for the paramedics who where one button away from coming. I quickly drove to my mother's house (few blocks away) and apologized for killing myself and how stupid it was and please give this note to the medics if I go unconscious.
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For those who grind the plastic concave trf opanas to snort, I mix the grind with B-12 vitamin powder to stop the gelling and get decent results.
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I've found that I can "crisp" them or use a 24 hour soak and can plug the solution along with 2cc water. The crisp'd shot is easier to administer and absorb.
"When both duration and intensity of analgesia are considered (total effect), rectal oxymorphone was 1/10 as potent as the intramuscular form; in peak effect, it was only 1/16 to 1/20 as potent."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/67128 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/67128)
I've had no I'll effects from rectal admin related to my past negative experiences with IV.
Shirring out that gel though... I have seen... things, h-horrible things.
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I don't. I saw it 1x and haven't been able to find it again. It's basically a pinch of Epsom salt in a spoon w/ opana and water. I believe a lighter was used to cook the shot but I'm really not sure
Word, I think I'll stick to the iso extraction then. Just gotta wait til Monday so my gf isn't around the apartment so I can actually do the damn thing.
Fucking hell though that story is horrifying. I really cannot imagine shooting up anything that is extracted from those endos. They are impenetrable as far as I'm concerned. I've never met a more stubborn substance.
Also another Q - I have access to both the Global Pharm and Actavis ER's. Anyone know which would be better suited to an iso extraction? I just got an Actavis for the first time the other night and they crush up easy as pie, but still gel up a bit. I assume they're easier to deal with because the Global ones definitely gel up more IMO.
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Both are perfect. Actavis is ideal IMO.
Pack oral syringe with cotton, pre wet with 91% iso.
Break pill into 4s, drop in oral syringe and cover pill and then some with 91 iso. Stir with plunger. Squirt into a metal cup or, heaven forbid, a can bottom. Proceed to evaporate. I use an infrared stovetop. Others burn it off and have fine results.
Add water, drop cotton, and then you da real mvp.
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Both are perfect. Actavis is ideal IMO.
Pack oral syringe with cotton, pre wet with 91% iso.
Break pill into 4s, drop in oral syringe and cover pill and then some with 91 iso. Stir with plunger. Squirt into a metal cup or, heaven forbid, a can bottom. Proceed to evaporate. I use an infrared stovetop. Others burn it off and have fine results.
Add water, drop cotton, and then you da real mvp.
Yep, just did a little trial with both. He gave me 2 of the Actavis ones and 4 Global Pharm ones and I got almost the equivalent end product from the Actavis ones. Although I did slightly mess up with the cotton filter in the oral syringe for the Actavis ones, it was mostly pure product for the most part. Ended up snorting it this time... I have the teeniest veins and ended up just tearing up my arm last time I tried shooting. I really need someone to help me out IRL with it because I can't hit these veins for nothing >:(
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Watch out for cotton fever. These little bastards have a tryst going with that shit.
I just woke up on the couch sweating bullets under an electric blanket with ear muffs on and a heating pad under me. Soaked.
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i know it's been mentioned 1000 times but as a veteran of "cotton fever" i have had it many times.
ASPIRIN - stat !
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Yes yes yes on the aspirin. Around where I live you can buy a Goody's brand liquid headache shot that is comprised of aspirin, which is just perfect for fast cotton fever relief.
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guhh fuck some cotton fever!
aspirin would work great for the girl. Me, not so much. I mean it did help a bit, but for the most part all i could do was ride out the storm
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Ok so I seen this and would like to clear this up evrryone is so wrong and making it complicating. I am just trying save people time and get where they want to ne with pain relief.
Step 1 (and this is just anyyyy opana with E on them)
Put in water or damp paper towel to get coating off.. swirl around til can't see it hardly at all. Not very long.
Step 2 cut into fourths
Step 3 put on spoon.
Step 4 put about 40 50 cc water with one pill..
Step 5 put heat on with lighter not directly on spoon don't want all water evaporating.. cook til slight boil under each piece.. bout 2 3 min maybe. Draw up all under pieces... repeat til you have as much ccs as you want and how strong you want..
Fyi I do this been doing and its best pain relief and last longer than any I've done
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Ok so I seen this and would like to clear this up evrryone is so wrong and making it complicating. I am just trying save people time and get where they want to ne with pain relief.
Step 1 (and this is just anyyyy opana with E on them)
Put in water or damp paper towel to get coating off.. swirl around til can't see it hardly at all. Not very long.
Step 2 cut into fourths
Step 3 put on spoon.
Step 4 put about 40 50 cc water with one pill..
Step 5 put heat on with lighter not directly on spoon don't want all water evaporating.. cook til slight boil under each piece.. bout 2 3 min maybe. Draw up all under pieces... repeat til you have as much ccs as you want and how strong you want..
Fyi I do this been doing and its best pain relief and last longer than any I've done
It's been pointed out to us that this is definitely not a good idea. Prepping these tablets this way carries significant long term risk. Injecting the new opana formulation has led to severe problems. Including losing limbs to amputation and developing a blood disease called TTP that has serious consequences. Just because you can force something into a solution doesn't mean that it is a good idea to inject it. Please be careful and look for a safer way to get off.
I would encourage people to try rectal administration if they absolutely have to use this tek. Please don't inject it.