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Core Topics => Needle & Syringe Programs => Topic started by: OxyOpanaAlphaOmega on August 19, 2015, 01:36:40 PM
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Most of Walmart follow their corporate policy
Which is to sell boxed syringes by the 100 count
Go her and use fresh rigs pins whatever you call them
Never share and don't reuse
Peace
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I always use Walmart...there brand called ReliOn are just over $12 for box of 100 while the brand name BDs are like $30+ ....walmart for the win!
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I've sort of heard some stuff about this supposed policy. Does this mean that if I go into a Walmart and ask for a box of 100 syringes, they're not giving me any static at all? Just sign the book and show ID? Bodda bing?
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Years ago in Pennsylvania you could only get them from the needle exchange. We used to all ways go once a month. Then one day like 4 or 5 years ago the law was changed where you can now buy them at any pharmacy.
Of course you all ways seem to run into some high and mighty pharm Tech who like to give you shit because you are buying needles. I have had a few ask me why I am buying them and if I am a diabetic.
anyways I have never had a problem at Walmart and they do sell me pack of 10 instead of having to buy the whole box but I'm sure it could be different at other branches.
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I've sort of heard some stuff about this supposed policy. Does this mean that if I go into a Walmart and ask for a box of 100 syringes, they're not giving me any static at all? Just sign the book and show ID? Bodda bing?
Hmmm. I wrote a post and hit submit but it didn't show up as a reply in the thread? Not sure what happened so here I am writing it again. If this shows up twice, I apologize and I'll do my best to delete one of them.
Anyway, I also wonder that same thing, Zoops. I live in CA which passed that law that allows any business to sell rigs to anyone over 18 without a prescription. However, I was frequently running into uppity pharmacists that wouldn't allow me to purchase syringes, even in LA county where it's supposedly easier than Ventura County where I live. I'd always go to this one specific Walgreens because it was "known" for always selling syringes. Most of the pharm techs new me because I would go in there every few days to get a new 10 pack but there were these two head pharmacists that were pricks. If they overheard anyone ask for syringes, they'd yell "We're out!" from the back of the pharmacy without even looking up. It was frustrating as all hell. I'd drive the 30 minutes or so into LA county but if either of those two head pharmacists were working, I knew I was pretty much screwed. Sometimes, if I needed rigs bad enough, I'd hang around the store waiting for them to go on break or far enough out of earshot to where I could order my rigs without them hearing me.
Anyway, for the last year or so I've been purchasing my rigs online because the site I get them from has good prices and they deliver within a single business day with standard shipping. However, it'd be nice to have a local place to purchase rigs and there are plenty of WalMarts around. Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend.
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My local walmarts in Texas seem to have differing levels of difficulty.
True, boxes are much easier to purchase.
One only sells shorts in 30 and 31 g
The other asks which type of insulin you take
Another wants you to consult with pharmacist.
I go for the 30g shorts
Sometimes harder to register but dont cause much damage.
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Never had a problem getting 10 packs ($1.35) reli ON's here in Mississippi, although the coast is a different animal entirely than the rest of this state.
No ID or log to sign, what kind of orwellian shit is that in CA.
Try a mom n pop and you may get crucified. I had a pharmacist tell me to go use my friends dirty needles.
And that was after I shot out that I use humilin R 70/30.
Junky detection level: Pro.
Man I found out I had HCV at rehab. I didn't have it 3 months ago and can't think of a vector. I'm not too upset about it, because, hey, now I can weaponize my blood!
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ive had walmarts hit or miss in FL. I dont know how the 'corporate policy' is disseminated; some places I couldnt buy any, then down the street its only 100 count, then a little further down the street you could buy singles.
man, as much as it isnt a big deal getting turned down for rigs, if the social justice warrior behind the counter takes joy in it, it just really kicks me in the balls.
I fucking hate buying needles at a pharmacy. Even if it's a sure thing, I hate buying them. the pharm techs whole demeanor changes the second you ask for them.
the woman who first turned me down for needles was also by far the most potent bitch I've ever seen behind a counter since.
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The Wal-Mart where I get my Subs and other scripts filled apparently used to sell syringes. I noticed in Jan. 2014 they put a sign up though that read "we no longer sell syringes without prescription or without diabetic status on file."
I tried a Wal-Mart in the fall of 2013 that I don't normally go to. I had been told by another member that this store would sell to me no problem. I go in, ask for a 10-pack of 31 guage 1cc insulin syringes. First I got a pharm-tech who told me no, so I asked to speak to the pharmacist. Some uppity lady pharmacist comes out, tells me that unless I have a prescription for insulin on file with them, they can't sell to me. I reminded her that it was perfectly legal to sell anyone over 18 syringes if they asked for them. She gave me a dirty look and said "we don't do that here."
So yeah, seems to depend on the store, not just some corporate policy. Ironically I should have gone to the Wal-Mart I go to, as that was before their no-sell policy in Jan. 2014. But I figured it would be a big red flag to get syringes at the store I get my Subs filled.
If I had to get syringes again, I'd just order online. Much easier, and a great selection. No attitudes either. There aren't any needle exchange places here. At the time Planned Parenthood told me they would be starting a needle exchange program shortly, in a few months, but that didn't help me at the time. I don't know if they ever started that.
The pharmacist who told someone to use their friend's dirty needles should have their license pulled. That's incredibly fucked up, moreso b/c they're a supposed health-care "professional." ::)
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http://harmreduction.org/ (http://harmreduction.org/)
http://exchangesupplies.org/ (http://www.exchangesupplies.org/)
With companies,whatever the corporate policy,you're still dependent on the pharmacist on duty.
The two links above are to,firstly the harm reduction coalition.Their resource guide lists a whole bunch of services including NX.
If you don't have an NX near you the second link is to exchange supplies(who will ship globally) and they're about as good as an NX supply company can be-in the interests of transparency,I do some consulting for them.
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I'm actually diabetic and even with that on file I've had some pharmacy workers give me grief
BUT
it is corporate policy and under the pharmacist who works there control of they wish to sell them
It is very rare to have any trouble but it does happen
The policy is due to one of the Walmart owners son died of AIDS he got from sharing needles; its a lesser known fact but it is true.
Take care and good luck
Never use dirty needles and try to not even reuse them on yourself
I know that is hard sometimes but damn the risk is high for disease!
Take care
Also Rite Aid is also this way most places
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http://harmreduction.org/ (http://harmreduction.org/)
http://exchangesupplies.org/ (http://www.exchangesupplies.org/)
With companies,whatever the corporate policy,you're still dependent on the pharmacist on duty.
The two links above are to,firstly the harm reduction coalition.Their resource guide lists a whole bunch of services including NX.
If you don't have an NX near you the second link is to exchange supplies(who will ship globally) and they're about as good as an NX supply company can be-in the interests of transparency,I do some consulting for them.
my experiences with exchangesupplies has always been fantastic. I want to say the great guy Ive dealt with is named Andrew, but Im not positive. I'd second the recommendation for them for anyone looking for syringes or filters. the universal filters they have are absolutely fantastic. very cheap and very effective.
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Yeah,it's Andrew. It's a measure of the place that they were prepared to hire an our front addict like me as a consultant-you'd be surprised how so many harm reduction groups won't hire actual users.
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Where I live in s. Florida specifically Broward and Dade counties you absolutely must have a script for all synringes, even in emergency situationw any legitimate pharmacy won't hand over a few to hold u over, but if u drive 15 minutes north of your house and enter palm Beach county, you can buy your choice of needle and syringe.. stupid county ordinances.. and they had a bix expose about the uptick in aids cases and can't figure out why... hahah they shut down the pill mills and everyone went to herpin and eventually shooting...
Talk to yall soon
Edit: I'm diabetic aswell as a shit ton of other probs
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Where I live in s. Florida specifically Broward and Dade counties you absolutely must have a script for all synringes, even in emergency situationw any legitimate pharmacy won't hand over a few to hold u over, but if u drive 15 minutes north of your house and enter palm Beach county, you can buy your choice of needle and syringe.. stupid county ordinances.. and they had a bix expose about the uptick in aids cases and can't figure out why... hahah they shut down the pill mills and everyone went to herpin and eventually shooting...
Talk to yall soon
Edit: I'm diabetic aswell as a shit ton of other probs
On time in the keys I had that very problem
Couldn't get anymore then the ten I had and had to reuse those for insulin while I was on vacation even though Walgreens had my insulin on file because of those county laws (dade)
I was shocked to say the least!
It's horrible that they follow some federal laws and then not others, pick and choose bastardized system!
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Well ya cant get 6 ml luer lock barrels at wally world. The internet it is for me. Hopefully never again last night was another "last shot" for the hudreth time but fuck, im trying here.
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I have never had a problem buying the 100 count boxes from any Walmart. I have run into trouble trying to just get a 10 pack before from the same Walmart I always got the boxes from for some stupid reason. The law in Alabama is that anyone over 18 can purchase syringes but none of the big chain pharmacys I have found will sell them without a script. It's actually become a big problem since needle exchanges are illegal in the state. I know that Jefferson county which includes the city of Birmingham has one of the highest STD rates in the country. I think it's even worse than advertised especially for Hep c since many residents don't have the means to get tested and it's a largely an asymptomatic infection.
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Lately stores have been making it up as they go. Even in states that state you just need ID. Maryland used to be that way now though in the burbs where i live the Heroin use has been a growing epidemic according to the powers that be. So now unless you have diabetic prescription you got nothing coming. I do have diabetes so i tend to buy them for my friends because as someone with Hep C i never want anyone to get this shit.
I think it is crazy that when they have a so called epidemic that is when they crack down on addicts buying syringes would that not be the time to allow people to buy them so that we do not have HIV and HEPC numbers growing like crazy again.
Rite Aids 100 box is 11.00 if you have a script for insulin.
Bay
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Just shaking my head at why ANYONE in a pharmacy ANYWHERE wouldn't want to sell needles, just knowing even the first basic thing about harm reduction.
What .. they REALLY fucking think that the ability to buy clean needles will make someone shoot up who wouldn't have before??? Oh - yay - I can buy needles now I'm going to decide to shoot up.
And conversely, if someone CANNOT GET CLEAN NEW NEEDLES what - then that will make them automatically stop being an IV drug user this very instant?
SOOOOO ridiculous. So F'd up. I've never been an IV drug user so I've never been exposed to this level of bullshit. However, I can relate just a teeeeny tiny amount to uppity pharmacists and personnel from when I was on suboxone. And I'm like the typical suburban looking mom (which I am, ha ha). Not one of those "dirty, filthy drug users".
But God, sometimes they'd look at you once you handed over your script like you were ordering up some poison to kill 10,000 kittens or puppies or something. And the look would change once they saw the script, so you'd know. God.
Whenever someone treated me well or kindly, I'd always look them right in the eye and say "Thank you. Thank you so much. This is not easy for me, and I want to tell you how much I appreciate you not making it harder."
I was hoping that I would reinforce their good behavior. I'm sorry for all of you that you're trying hard to be safe and these roadblocks are still there. PISSES ME OFF.
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^^^ Yes, yes, yes! I hate when you go in to get your sub script and they treat you like dog shit! Like mother fucker I'm doing this so I don't turn into a junkbox!
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Just shaking my head at why ANYONE in a pharmacy ANYWHERE wouldn't want to sell needles, just knowing even the first basic thing about harm reduction.
What .. they REALLY fucking think that the ability to buy clean needles will make someone shoot up who wouldn't have before??? Oh - yay - I can buy needles now I'm going to decide to shoot up.
And conversely, if someone CANNOT GET CLEAN NEW NEEDLES what - then that will make them automatically stop being an IV drug user this very instant?
SOOOOO ridiculous. So F'd up. I've never been an IV drug user so I've never been exposed to this level of bullshit. However, I can relate just a teeeeny tiny amount to uppity pharmacists and personnel from when I was on suboxone. And I'm like the typical suburban looking mom (which I am, ha ha). Not one of those "dirty, filthy drug users".
But God, sometimes they'd look at you once you handed over your script like you were ordering up some poison to kill 10,000 kittens or puppies or something. And the look would change once they saw the script, so you'd know. God.
Whenever someone treated me well or kindly, I'd always look them right in the eye and say "Thank you. Thank you so much. This is not easy for me, and I want to tell you how much I appreciate you not making it harder."
I was hoping that I would reinforce their good behavior. I'm sorry for all of you that you're trying hard to be safe and these roadblocks are still there. PISSES ME OFF.
Ditto on SMT discrimination by pharmacists for bringing in a Sub script. I've had that happen twice over the years.
The first time was with my first Sub doctor. He explicitly told me (and my sister; she went with me to my first appointment) that if the pharmacy couldn't fill the entire script, we were to ask the pharmacist for a written note stating that I was owed more. He said to do that b/c I asked him what happens if the owe me more, but they screw up and say they don't when I come back later? He said it's my responsibility, and that he wouldn't re-script.
So my sister and I took the script to the Kroger pharmacy close by. When we went back to get it, they said they could only fill part of it. She and I both asked them to write the note. They said they weren't going to do that. My sister then explained why we were asking, and that that's what the doctor said to do. They could call him to verify. NOPE! The bitch lady pharmacist said "you'll get them when you get them."
My sister was PISSED. She's not an addict, and hates drugs in general. So when the pharmacist was rude to her, she took it as the pharmacist trying to imply she was just some greedy junkie. Neither she nor I will ever go back to a Kroger pharmacy to this day.
The second example involved a Wal-Mart pharmacy. I had just started seeing my former Sub doctor in May 2012. He told me to take the script to be filled, them bring it back to the office, and he'd watch me induct. So I took it to the closest pharmacy around, which was a Wal-Mart a couple blocks away. I gave them the script, they said it would be ready in 45 minutes (they were busy), so I waited for 45 minutes.
When I went back up to the window, I asked if it was done. The pharmacist forcefully gave the script back to me, and in a loud voice said "we don't carry that narcotic here." Like he was trying to shame me. I said, you couldn't have told me that 45 minutes ago? I took the script, rolled my eyes, and left.
I went to another Wal-Mart pharmacy further away (the one I currently use), and they were kind and filled it with no problems. I've been going to them for 3.5 years now. They know me by name, and they always treat me kindly.
Healthcare "professionals" who do this type of shit should be held accountable IMO. I put professionals in quotes b/c they're anything but.
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When I lived in Vegas I had to buy rigs from WalMart. I was really surprised that there wasn't a NX. But apparently there are a lot of states without NX.
I was just working in Newark,Delaware a couple months ago and they didn't have one up there.
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Well ya cant get 6 ml luer lock barrels at wally world. The internet it is for me. Hopefully never again last night was another "last shot" for the hudreth time but fuck, im trying here.
I've never gotten 6ml, but I regularly get 5ml luer lock barrels for use as a cotton packed pressure fliter for $0.16 each. Even though I don't use them often, I make sure to get a 29 short to screw on in case I get some morphine. But anyways I don't see why they wouldn't sell something a with a little more capacity.
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When I lived in Vegas I had to buy rigs from WalMart. I was really surprised that there wasn't a NX. But apparently there are a lot of states without NX.
I was just working in Newark,Delaware a couple months ago and they didn't have one up there.
Was it the one on Boulder Hwy down from Sam's town?
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My main Walmart used to sell the 10-packs (no problems, questions, log signing, or IDing) but they now only sell the boxes. The bags were just under $2 each and the boxes of 100 were ~$12. I've been buying the boxes for a year or so now, and it's actually easier and cheaper. Still no problems, questions, logs to sign or having to hand over my ID. My only complaint is that the price is now over $13-- $13.88 IIRC, but that's still 3 extra bags for the money and fewer embarrassing pharmacy trips.
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I only buy my syringes at Walmart. Here in NC I don't have to sign a log or show my ID or anything. I have gone to 3 different ones in the area and never had an issue with them selling to me. The only place in the area that i have had any issue was walgreens. I even had a vile of insulin with me and out of state license and they refused to sell them to me.
On the other hand I have also used the 24 hour CVS, and gone in at 7 in the morning on the way to the dope mans house and they have sold them to me with no shit.
Back when I lived in Ohio I had an issue buying at Walmart one time and it was in a really small town so that may have had something to do with it.
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My main Walmart used to sell the 10-packs (no problems, questions, log signing, or IDing) but they now only sell the boxes. The bags were just under $2 each and the boxes of 100 were ~$12. I've been buying the boxes for a year or so now, and it's actually easier and cheaper. Still no problems, questions, logs to sign or having to hand over my ID. My only complaint is that the price is now over $13-- $13.88 IIRC, but that's still 3 extra bags for the money and fewer embarrassing pharmacy trips.
That's how we do
Buy em by the box
At Wal-Mart
For a lil over $12
No questions asked
But Michigan seems pretty
Liberal
When it comes to needles
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In Grand Rapids, there is also a needle exchange operating each day of the week in a different location. Its called "Clean Works", and they'll help you with whatever else you need too, like housing info or getting foodstamps info. We've been a few times, as have some friends, and they'll hook it up, give you supplies like antibiotic ointment, cottons, bleach, sterile waters, etc. as well as rigs by the box or by the case in whatever size and type you want. So, once I find that piece of paper with their hours and locations I'll post it cause I cant seem to find that info online, but usually its 6-8pm, and ive only been to one of the locations, on division towards downtown. Like I said, if someone else has the rest of the info feel free to update this or I will once I find it.
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Think it's Tues and Thurs
After 6.
Don't know if you brought it up
They give narcan out too
Or use to.
And if you donate 30 bucks you get a tee shirt. I got mine.
All the in-laws want to borrow it lol
Also I like b&d better then sure fine.
If you don't get it on the first poke
The sure fine are dull
The b&ds are great if I can't find that vein on the first poke.
They cost twice as much little under 4 bucks for 10.
We usually just but them by the box
But when I can get b&d I would rather them.
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Yes, good point. They do give narcan and teach you how to use it and do emergency breathing on someone, if you need to know. I felt strange first time I went to the needle exchange, went back in the room, and the person was offering me all the supplies. I felt overly greedy, but they were pretty much just asking "how much of these do you want" and giving me large handful of everything, cottons, alcohol pads, bandaids, few little bleach bottles, frickn case of points even, plus a few bags of other random kinds of them. I said I didn't live nearby, so I can't go there too often, not too far away either about 45 min. But anyway, after that statement the girl was overly generous with the supplies to the point of making me feel bad, kept saying, oh but you don't live in town..." So it was awesome.
I wish I could see the look on family's face wearing that shirt, and after the amount of stuff they gave me last time I'm making a donation next time I go. SO I may get a chance to see that on my family and inlaws, lol.
I don't know what town you are in, but me and a few friends in my town have been in touch with the people at the Grand RApids exchange about how they set it up, cause we are working on starting something up in my area too. Hopefully, because it's an extremely uptight area that walmart will not sell you needles in. One mom an pop pharm. in our town does, and thats it.
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Nobody else has ever purchased 3+ ml barrels and needles from walmart?
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I have, needles were 29th 1/2 inch. I've also gotten 5ml and 60ml all leurlock, the big 60 is for flushing my feeding tube when I'm not hooked up to the pump
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The WalMart's out here where I am in AZ have stopped selling the bags of 10 and now only allow you to buy the boxes of 100. Not a problem for me but I could see some people down to their last rig and with only $3 thinking they can get some new works and get shut down.
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Yes, good point. They do give narcan and teach you how to use it and do emergency breathing on someone, if you need to know. I felt strange first time I went to the needle exchange, went back in the room, and the person was offering me all the supplies. I felt overly greedy, but they were pretty much just asking "how much of these do you want" and giving me large handful of everything, cottons, alcohol pads, bandaids, few little bleach bottles, frickn case of points even, plus a few bags of other random kinds of them. I said I didn't live nearby, so I can't go there too often, not too far away either about 45 min. But anyway, after that statement the girl was overly generous with the supplies to the point of making me feel bad, kept saying, oh but you don't live in town..." So it was awesome.
Speaking as someone who worked for needle exchange for 8 years and ran my own small secondary exchange; DONT feel greedy about taking a lot of supplies for you and your friends who can't make it there. These places work on grants and donations and they keep track of what they give out: the more they give out, the more money they get to buy more supplies next week. The more you get, the more THEY get and the more people can be helped--that is how these things work.
I've never heard of an established exchange running out of points, and they would tell you if there was a limited amount.
I used to go once a month and take maybe 8-10 boxes of 100 each plus a shopping bag full of supplies like water, cottons, ties, cookers, etc. I would take one of those garbage sized sharps containers and bring it back full to the brim. And I was one of many who did that kind of thing for their local small using communities of like 10-30 people. So they have plenty and it's totally understood to be part of the way these things work best, so not everyone has to come individually.
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so yesterday a mate asked us to pick up some syringes from a pharmacy ... at first they were going to deny me then another lady intervened and gave us a very discreetly packed box of water, swabs, cotton, spoon and 4 syringes.
i did it as an experiment.
HR is still alive but you have to work at it.
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so yesterday a mate asked us to pick up some syringes from a pharmacy ... at first they were going to deny me then another lady intervened and gave us a very discreetly packed box of water, swabs, cotton, spoon and 4 syringes.
i did it as an experiment.
HR is still alive but you have to work at it.
Right on! Was this a chain place or a mom n pop?
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Son of a bitch!
Walmarts in my county no longer sell syringes w/o prescription. Now I have to spend $6 for a 10 pack at mom n pops. Walmart was $1.35 :(
Right now I have a 28g long, numbers rubbed off special scarring me up. I'm used to 31g shorts, ugh.
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I still like to spam stupid links.
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^^^^who is this fucktard and why is he spamming the board???
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I left a modified version so it doesn't look like you're talking to yourself dirtyjerzy. The funny thing is if he posted it once it probably would have been fine.
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I use the reli on brand myself. I get mine from wally world too. Everyone is super nice, it just makes me feel uncomfortable to go in and buy my rigs. I order them online and get them delivered now. I don't pay a shit ton either, with my military spouse benefit. So if you are military or a spouse or retired, you get a discount.
My husband is diabetic, so we wouldn't have issues, even though he isn't insulin dependant yet.
Some diabetic medications are prescribed for other purposes than diabetes, and not all needle use is diabetic dependant. There are many injectable meds out there. Get your doctor to send up information to allow you those. You can also bypass by ordering on the Wal-Mart website, pay online and then pick them up or delivery. Amazon has better deals anyways. Just bypass those assholes
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Sweet!!!
People like this keep my hope alive. At least someone cares!
I've been personally thinking about running a vacutainer line with double port. I'm debating it though. I'm a licensed piercer, and that is just a few wasted hours short of phlebotomy, so I know I wouldn't have issues starting it, just have to debate placement.
For those who are unaware of vacutainer, it's basically an IV line catheter and cannula, that uses vacuum to maintain saline suspensions and clean delivery, even without full bag saline. It's pretty handy for IV drug users, so long as it's maintained. Lowers infection and if your a patient, it's handy if you have to get blood specs done a lot.
If I get around to it, ill make a post on it, if it's allowed and anyone is interested. I can run ventricular, atrial, lymphatic and adrenal lines, as well as long term setups, if anyone wants to know. Basically, if there is a tube or a needle vessel use, I can show you how to get into it. Lol
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Black maiden, I am TOTALLY interested in this. Any info you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I've been an iv drug user for around 25 years now and I'm running out of places to use. I'm not ready to quit yet so this causes me quite a bit of frustration. The saying, "blood, sweat and tears" literally applies in this situation. Anyway, I for one, am interested in anything you might have to say on this subject. Thanks in advance! Kat