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Core Topics => Drugs => Phenethylamines => Topic started by: SceneBG on September 19, 2015, 02:35:13 PM
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One day my best dope friend was with somebody that i do not know him and after short comunication he said, that he had decent quallity methamphetamines.My friends told that he used and it is very good(shooting with Methadone) and i can snorting this "priceless dope".
I had Rivotril and my friends told him take one with methadone and you will potentate methadone.I gave him one Rivotril and he gave me 2-4 thiny lines, but he told me-I have no money to produce and this is scrach from staff that i used to produce.
My friend told me again that if i shoot that with methadone will be very good.I rejected idea for shooting because of my veins and went home.I made 4 thiny lines and we split with bro.It's burn very bad, but furthermore we not felt nothing.My bro said that when he was on sea vacantion with 2 lines like ours he felt everything.
After one week same person came to spot and ask for methadone, but no one have/wants to selling, then he ask me for 1 pill and i offer him 4-5 Rivotril for some of the good stuff(he offer methamphetamines to all group 35$ per G and i saw that this time methamphetamineswere white no yellow/brown color)
We go to hide somewhere and he gave me same quantity, but he said this is reallly good quallity.He droped some and i gave him 4 Rivotril.I saw the glass bottle it contains white powder, but i am sure there was no crystals.
Went home again and same-burn like hell but after that nothing.My friend told me that when he is shooting with methadone he feel energy, power etc. but I know the answer is bad cooker.So what is your opinion and what need to expect when i get good methamphetamines?
The cooker smoke his stuff, but i remember that metamphetamines are for any kind of use, are they?
PS:I have some problems with this editor, change font, when i bold some word i continue to write in bold with many clicks i turn off bold but start writing in smallest font size and different font face.Can this happened when i removed to different tab and back again to D&U?
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my favorite subjects - methamphets and forums.
if the meth. is pure then 1/20 th. of a gram, IV, will give you a feeling of exhilaration.
we get purity levels up to 80% but I have no idea what you had.
there is a lot of HEAVILY cut meth. that looks and handles like the real thing and we will pay $AUD 300-500 a gram.
you will know when it works because you'll feel bulletproof and 10 ft. high.
as far as this editor goes, marking the text and BOLDing more than once will just confused you.
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I'm sorry but we are all suspicious of white powder - we use crystal here and being OFF-white and/or a bit oily is what you want.
you won't sleep for over 24-36 hours.
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That wasn't meth you snorted, you'd know if it was, your hair would stand up.
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Word. Your brain CANNOT ignore a decent hit (starting at 50mg- 1/20g) of methamp. You got bunk shit, sorry to tell you.
Happens to the best of 'em. Keep on fishing though.
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Oh yeah, you got bunk dude. I only did meth once. I freaked out too. I shot just a tiny bit and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Then I couldn't sleep for two days. It was awful... never again.
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Thx for answers.The guy who made it gave me one more time, but i didn't felt anything different but amphetamines.He just talk too much but he can't cook meth.My friend shoot them with methadone and told me that is very cool, but wait a minute 20% of junkies here shooting methadone and amphetamines and they love it.It seems the coocer learn how to cook from another pseudo coocer.
My bro said that when he made couple years ago a tiny line it's been something superior and that is not the same :(
I just want to try the last of the famous drugs, but may be in other life.
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This sounds more like that "speed paste" stuff they sell in parts of western and eastern europe, it is an inferior product that looks like a big plop of white flour thats been dampened with water; its usually sold wet and then either dried out to be snorted as is OR preferably further refined into actual crystal meth. It seems like the equivalent of the big flats of partially cooked opium products that they make in mexico (where they refine the raw opium halfway in the field and then send the results on to somewhere else to be further refined into heroin). You could maybe get high off that shit with no tolerance but you'd need a lot of it.
For future ref, crystal meth is obviously crystals, not powder, even if they have been crushed into tiny piece you can still see its crystalline material. Kind of like how flour and refined sugar don't look the same up close (although meth crystals are irregular spiky shaped unlike sugar, which is like tiny squares).
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This sounds more like that "speed paste" stuff they sell in parts of western and eastern europe, it is an inferior product that looks like a big plop of white flour thats been dampened with water; its usually sold wet and then either dried out to be snorted as is OR preferably further refined into actual crystal meth. It seems like the equivalent of the big flats of partially cooked opium products that they make in mexico (where they refine the raw opium halfway in the field and then send the results on to somewhere else to be further refined into heroin). You could maybe get high off that shit with no tolerance but you'd need a lot of it.
For future ref, crystal meth is obviously crystals, not powder, even if they have been crushed into tiny piece you can still see its crystalline material. Kind of like how flour and refined sugar don't look the same up close (although meth crystals are irregular spiky shaped unlike sugar, which is like tiny squares).
Yes thats it!!!Smetimes is even yeiiow.It comes wet, but i am tried to made it close to powder and snoort it wet.It is like decent amphetamine :(
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That wasn't meth you snorted, you'd know if it was, your hair would stand up.
FOR ME AND THE ONE TIME I TRIED IT, THIS IS A SPOT ON ANALOGY!!!
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I got one more time is definetely feel strong amphetamines.It comes white, dry this time and my brain can remove this 2 days.I have two friend and see them like You Tube moviie for methamphetamines-red nouse, dry mount with wounds and of course the face like skeleton.
They start drink 20 mg Rivotril a day+200mg Methadone+Pico(Europian methamphetamines)and today they went to buy coce.Everything, but Rivotril are shooted with Methadone-gipsy-clinic-pico Speed or who give name to this danger combination.
I got some Xanax, Diazepam and of course Methadone.Tomorrow need to get some vitamins and minerals and will waiting 2-3 days to catch w/o.
I see every time more people, so go rock the junky comunity here here here here........
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Go back to the "Search History" on your computer from the day you used...
Is it full of some of the most depraved content you've ever seen?
Did you have an undeniable urge to peek thru your curtains/blinds for hours and hours on end?
Did you take ANYTHING apart, then put it back together... Or better yet, just leave it in pieces?
If you answered YES to ANY of the above, then you had you some Meth baby!!!
If no.... Try again.
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Yeah, when you get the real thing there is no question. I've smoked a lot of meth in my youth, but I only IV d it once , I thought my heart was gunna explode and I puked. My tweaked friends claimed they had prepped me a tiny shot and called me a pussy. Be careful, it's not a safe drug like BTH! HAha
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despite my own addiction to stimulants I still don't recommend trying the drug because it's easy to get a habit from it.
not to mention the cost.
go easy.
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That sucks man. I live in a spot where speed is just not around almost: Minnesota. I wouldn't want any speed that made it here either. I got some folks on the West Coast with the heaven. You won't grit your teeth and you'll sleep like a baby. And if you... Well now I'm just... Fiending sorry.
Meth is clear crystals. Any cloudyness is usually rat poison or something else horrible. The quality of meth from L.A. to the desert suburbs was staggering. It was apples and oranges. And most people, sadly for those of us who demand quality and performance from our drugs, don't notice. Sorry that I don't have any great suggestions for you, but just know that there are some places where you aren't going to find good meth.
Better luck next time. There is nothing worse on this earth, than to pay money for fake drugs. The thing that is worse is for whomever you got it from to duck you or not pay you back. There's a million jack moves and only one you. So look for the clear crystals of perfection whenever smoking, shooting, or burning your nose off with your finest quality methamphetamine. The comedown sucks. I suggest hamburgers for that.
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Not sure if this paste stuff smokes, but when in doubt about the quality of crystal, smoke a hit off aluminum foil or a glass pipe. Speed melts/smokes very nicely with a common core taste and the lung-uptake should hit you pretty good.
Wondering if that Rivotril thing might be fuzzing with your experience, especially on low doses of the meth.
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Snorting is my 2nd least favorite way of ingesting meth. Mixing with liquid and drinking is my least favorite. Snorting is so bad for your nose. It burns like hell, but it should get you high pretty much instantaneously still. Shooting is balls out wiggy insane. To say I get instantly horny after shooting would be a colossal understatement. Oh... I forgot to mention smoking. I too love smoking meth with friends, and talking non-stop; sometimes for days. But if I'm alone, or I just need to get my fix, I shoot it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but missing a vein with meth is dangerous as hell. Is it not? I believe that's what caused some pretty gnarly abcesses to burst while I was in California about a year ago.
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Snorting is my 2nd least favorite way of ingesting meth. Mixing with liquid and drinking is my least favorite. Snorting is so bad for your nose. It burns like hell, but it should get you high pretty much instantaneously still. Shooting is balls out wiggy insane. To say I get instantly horny after shooting would be a colossal understatement. Oh... I forgot to mention smoking. I too love smoking meth with friends, and talking non-stop; sometimes for days. But if I'm alone, or I just need to get my fix, I shoot it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but missing a vein with meth is dangerous as hell. Is it not? I believe that's what caused some pretty gnarly abcesses to burst while I was in California about a year ago.
not so, IME ... Meth is made with so much toxic shit, the drug tends to carry so little bacteria etc. that it shouldn't hurt or form an abcess.
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IMHO, whenever one "cook" teaches another "cook" teaches another "cook", the quality of the prepared product drops each time until eventually you have what I see around here (I know a few) where the stuff they make is more pseudo fed and trace lithium salts than meth that when they try the real deal they are confused and not sure what the fuck to think. I know this one girl did some of my shit after doing her man's shit for years, acted all disappointed started defending her man's shit, then promptly froze up and seized for five minutes and didn't sleep for forty eight hours (as, despite my advice, did a pile the size of what she was used to).
Most of these guys have no idea what they are doing chemistry wise and are for all intents and purposes "monkey see monkey do's". All they know is well swirl it around after you catch the ammonia with propane until it looks like gold. No work up, no pill extraction, a bunch of crap. When I did it, dropped water on the ammonium nitrate/sodium hydroxide mix with a tube going to a flask in a dry ice bath with another tube going to an empty flask with a second tube going into acidic water (to absorb any escaping ammonia so it can be done inside). The middle empty flask is a water trap for any pull back so it doesn't get in the anhydrous. Once done distilling the extracted PE base in toluene (or preferably THF) is added already cooled and the lithium pieces are added with swirling until the deep blue stays. One doesn't need anywhere near as much ammonia or lithium as these guys use, they use like five times too much. Then its taken outta the dry ice and the trap flask removed so the slowly boiling ammonia goes into the acid trap at the end. By the time its nearly evaporated (over half hour for 5 gram batch average) its golden liquid colored and pretty much totally reduced. But that's not the end. These guys just add hexanes/naphta/toluene and "gas" it out with HCl gas. NO! Add the hexanes and give it a water wash to get rid of any ammonia for fucks sake because gassing that will give you ammonium chloride and some of the lithium salts as well as unreacted PE and SOME meth. And it will be wet. After the water wash a salt wash then throw in anhydrous sodium sulfate and pour into another container to gas and then you can filter and rinse. Now one will have way over 90% pure shit and nearly quantitative yield.
When the day comes I decide to do some meth and buy it off the street instead of making it, please fucking shoot me!
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^^^And that's why most of what passes for "crystal" burns like hell when you sniff it, right? If it's pure meth it doesn't burn right?
I bought some of what someone was selling as "meth" at a rave once, and it was some shit that just got me all sorts of jacked up, with no euphoric rush at ALL. I don't know what it was but it sure kept me up all fucking night, heart pounding.
Might have been something cut with clenbuterol or some adrenergic agent or something.
Best speed I've ever taken was pharm. Desoxyn. Pure d-methamphetamine. When you cook from pseudoephedrine, you still get a racemic mixture as the product right?
And is there a difference in the product obtained from ephedrine vs. pseudoephedrine?
Dexedrine was my fave amp though. To me it was slightly better than the Desoxyn tablets I got hold of from time to time.
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Go back to the "Search History" on your computer from the day you used...
Is it full of some of the most depraved content you've ever seen?
Did you have an undeniable urge to peek thru your curtains/blinds for hours and hours on end?
Did you take ANYTHING apart, then put it back together... Or better yet, just leave it in pieces?
If you answered YES to ANY of the above, then you had you some Meth baby!!!
If no.... Try again.
I missed this before but lmao this time. Also look in your side yard. If you have come up on one or two sets of washers and dryers or some old cry tvs, it was crystal...
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my favorite subjects - methamphets and forums.
if the meth. is pure then 1/20 th. of a gram, IV, will give you a feeling of exhilaration.
we get purity levels up to 80% but I have no idea what you had.
there is a lot of HEAVILY cut meth. that looks and handles like the real thing and we will pay $AUD 300-500 a gram.
you will know when it works because you'll feel bulletproof and 10 ft. high.
as far as this editor goes, marking the text and BOLDing more than once will just confused you.
you can use Ctrl+z to undo your last text modification.
just keep practising and exploring - if you post something wrong then one of the staff will try to correct it for you.
I'm sorry but we are all suspicious of white powder - we use crystal here and being OFF-white and/or a bit oily is what you want.
you won't sleep for over 24-36 hours.
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great write up. thanks chipper.
you just blew my mind though. ~$215 USD per gram. how hard is it to get onto that massive island?? the price is less than 1/4 here
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That sucks man. I live in a spot where speed is just not around almost: Minnesota. I wouldn't want any speed that made it here either. I got some folks on the West Coast with the heaven. You won't grit your teeth and you'll sleep like a baby. And if you... Well now I'm just... Fiending sorry.
Meth is clear crystals. Any cloudyness is usually rat poison or something else horrible. The quality of meth from L.A. to the desert suburbs was staggering. It was apples and oranges. And most people, sadly for those of us who demand quality and performance from our drugs, don't notice. Sorry that I don't have any great suggestions for you, but just know that there are some places where you aren't going to find good meth.
Better luck next time. There is nothing worse on this earth, than to pay money for fake drugs. The thing that is worse is for whomever you got it from to duck you or not pay you back. There's a million jack moves and only one you. So look for the clear crystals of perfection whenever smoking, shooting, or burning your nose off with your finest quality methamphetamine. The comedown sucks. I suggest hamburgers for that.
Dude, are you serious? The cloudy spots in crystal method are not rat poison... just impurities from the cook. None of which is rat poison..
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Dude, are you serious? The cloudy spots in crystal method are not rat poison... just impurities from the cook. None of which is rat poison..
yeah, man, don't you know? You can make meth from just about any household chemical, bleach, dish detergent, charcoal litghter fluid, pop rocks, spray paint, rubber cement, super glue, borax (that's a good one), good old gasoline, aspirin tablets, Tylenol, and some bug spray helps to pump up the potency - that's what the real expert cooks use.
Just mix up a bunch of household chemicals and shit (yes, dog shit) in a bucket, bring it to a boil, then strain it out and evaporate the residue, then smoke that shit homie! You got some crystal meth right there!
Oh, and I almost forgot - it's something about batteries. You gotta throw in a couple ENERGIZER brand ALKALINE batteries. This is very important. Once you got the hang of it, it's pretty easy. I've done it a few dozen times... easy!
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Can we got some real numbers here? For U.S. crystal purity on average
It has to be at least moderately high concentration to form a crystal
ive gotten some stuff that looked like a piece of broken (untempered) glass
Other stuff was clearly crystal but a little cloudier
Any time anyone offered me powder as crystal, I passed
because that shit was like green or yellow at best
80% for average crystal? 85? 95?
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http://www.methproject.org/action/hawaii/details/news-story-2011-10-16.html
Hawai'i clocking in at over 98% AVERAGE for 2010
Im seeing other numbers like 66, 40, 51 for U.S. mainland overall
but those numbers are from the before times
i know the cartels have made a huge, concerted effort over the last 10 years
to get as much high purity meth into the u.s. as possible (and heroin)
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great write up. thanks chipper.
you just blew my mind though. ~$215 USD per gram. how hard is it to get onto that massive island?? the price is less than 1/4 here
in Australia, the current wholesale price of a kilo, according to our newspapers, is $95,000 for a kilo then sold on at $50 for a point on the street ($400 per gram etc.)
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Damn I just saw a guy buy an ounce for 350 us$ I guess the cartels don't care about oz enough.
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well @Thoms, today, on the news (my trusty cube AM radio), it was reported that they seized $AUD ONE BILLION worth of liquid methamphetamine (190 litres and then an additional 530 litres later) here in Australia.
wow ! ...see http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,2248
... and see what i mean about needing an easily accessible alternative "maint" type option to this drug ? it's everywhere by the looks of it ... i'd still give Dexamp Therapy a try ... a low cost and pure option for maintenance. whereas they way it is now, i try to back out but then they keep on pulling me back in
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If you did a acid/base cleaning
Would clean it up
But t to might end up with very little meth
That's the problem with these home based cooks is they don't clean the product enough.
More volume
More money
More crap in it
Meth is a horrible drug.
It is truly evil imho
And now that we have the net
Everyone that has a pirex plate
And a box of pusdophed
Is a cook.
I haven't done it in ten years
And have no desire to try any of
This home made crap
Go with some riddlin(sp)
Or adderall.
Be safe man
Unless it's pure crystals
Then don't fuck with it.
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Today, on the news (AM radio), it was reported that they seized $AUD ONE BILLION worth of liquid methamp. (190 litres) here in Aus.
see http://forum.drugs-and-users.org/index.php/topic,2248
... and see what i mean about needing an easily accessible alternative "maint" type option to this drug ? it's so prevalent.
Damn there must be a major market in your country
To set up a smuggling operation like that
You would easily need some major dollars
I don't think we get that Chinese meth here(but I'm in the middle of no where)
Yes there needs to be some sort of maintenance
But
Unlike opiates long term use causes major damage.
So any maintenance imho should be geared toward abstinence.
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hero 1, that is the current idea.
you just have to be aware of it's negative side effects and move to protect yourself.
tooth decay is a major issue because they all dry your mouth out, killing the good bacteria.
but yes, less is more. i know what you are saying but it may not be practical in all cases.
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Your Australian price points are OUTRAGEOUS! ~$500 an ounce here. High purity.
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I researching the keys and i am sure that i am sniffed jack shit.The real meth is not available in hole Europe.In Poland they made some chemicals and here we go we have Pico(nicita can say did she something see real cristals-like ice).So from there Pico come here, i remember when came for first time they all called Pico not methamphetamines.I have to close clients that take this shit and it seem like better amphetamines-more days you take them, more you look like shit and do crazy, stupid things.
I look one movie, Nikita was recommended before, where the Mexican national music comes in America and the police in Mexico.Until documentary was sooted 2000 people was killed, from 6-7 people squad stay alive just the policeman who told other side of the story(i was sure in the end of the film that he is so corrupted to talk about cartels).The musican Back in Mexico to shoot film how use pistols, kalashnikov and his mate open one closet and i saw exactly what is methamphetamines.I saw 3-4 big bags all full with differend form of ice or even diamonds.He told that this is 100% clean product.
I never saw this before, we do not have methamphetamines in Bulgaria, but i will let people to believe that they gave their money for real shit.The other point is who the fuck will transport from richest country to poor East Europe-even west.
Like awlays you guys have many drugs to choose what can be today.I can count on my hand what we have here-heroin, amphetamines, MJ, methadone and substitol/Morphine and that is.Forget for Rivotril but i meen real dope/drug.And the most sad part i see one thing if aaamerican heroin is good like now we have nothing, before 2000 we have good heroin you do not have good .But what i know?
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so I did some "meth" supposedly the other night. i paid $5 for it, so it was a really really small amount. a crystal chunk, maybe a little bit smaller than an american dime coin. it was actual crystal tho, was fairly clean looking, a little translucsent.
anyways, i shot it, did not feel much from it (had been smoking rock all night and i had shot 40mg of adderall a few hours earlier, granted i was mainly come down and tired when the meth appeared)
it definitely gave me energy. 3 of us in the house, i was the only person to try the meth, only person unable to sleep. too wired/energetic even though i was exauhsted.
ive done meth once before at a legit dose, LOVED IT, IV felt like ice running thru my veins followed by this warm MDMA type feeling all over and the speedyness of coke without any of the jittery/negative aspects. Tried getting it a couple times after that, and im 90% sure that what i was getting those times after the first was other stimulants, similar to meth, but not as pleasurable or fun, so i gave up on it.
i would love to try a real dose of real meth one last time though, for real.