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Title: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: clinton on March 29, 2016, 06:00:55 AM
 

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Suboxone bust at jail triggers investigation

By Andrew Oxford
The New Mexican | Updated 2 days ago

A corrections officer’s discovery of 170 Suboxone strips inside a pair of hair clippers at the Santa Fe County jail has spurred an investigation into drug smuggling at the facility, with detectives questioning staff and inmates.

Detention center personnel called deputies to the jail around noon March 19 after a Santa Fe woman delivered the electric clippers to the jail off N.M. 14.

A sergeant who had been monitoring inmate phone calls was suspicious that contraband might be concealed inside the clippers, according to an affidavit filed in Santa Fe County Magistrate Court.

The affidavit says an inmate called a woman and asked her to pick up Lauren Herrera, 31, to deliver the clippers.

The inmate instructed the woman to tell Herrera the clippers were to be delivered not for a particular inmate but for an entire pod.

The sergeant searched the clippers and found several packages of Suboxone, the affidavit states.

Also known as buprenorphine, the drug is used to treat opiate dependency.

Corrections staff counted 170 strips of Suboxone inside the clippers.

Personnel suspect the delivery was intended for several inmates inside the jail, the affidavit says.

Deputies arrested Herrera on Monday on suspicion of distributing a controlled substance, bringing contraband into a jail and conspiring to bring contraband into a jail. She remains in custody at the county detention center in lieu of a $10,000 bond.

The investigation continues.

Sheriff Robert A. Garcia said in a statement Friday that detectives are questioning jail inmates and staff.

“We’re investigating the possible involvement of other people,” Garcia said when contacted by phone Friday afternoon.

The sheriff said no else has been charged and referred a reporter to the county’s human resources department when asked if any jail staff had been placed on leave during the investigation. When a reporter contacted a county spokesperson, the human resources department had already closed for the Good Friday holiday.

Contact Andrew Oxford at 986-3093 or aoxford@sfnewmexican.com.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Guts on March 29, 2016, 11:15:17 AM
In lieu of a 10k bond? Does that mean she bonded out and they kept her? And that means her original bond amount is 10k or 100k? I've gotten a 5k bond (that I paid 500 on to get out) just for misdemeanor weed pos....
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Illadelph215 on March 29, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
All I know is if I actually end up getting time, someone better be smuggling some dope into that joint. I doubt it because it would be county but never been to any jail so I'm crossing my fingers on some kinda trade. It would suck if it's actually in Lancaster County as well, god damn Levi and the Amish Mafia will be crip walking up in that shit hole slanging pop rocks and gobstoppers.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: jonnyr3b on March 29, 2016, 12:12:21 PM
there's dope in county
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Illadelph215 on March 29, 2016, 12:38:39 PM
Well that's good to know, thanks. Never really thought about it until reading this thread for some reason. Figured County may be a long shot but I obviously don't know much about it, I'm sure every joint is different. Will be interesting, hopefully I don't find out though.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: DreamerOnTheRun on March 29, 2016, 04:12:24 PM
I remember hearin' about a chick who got busted mailing them to her boyfriend "hidden" behind the postage stamp on the envelope, haha.  On the real though, anybody else think it's kinda fucked people have to SMUGGLE in SUBOXONE?  Maybe I'm just a crazy stupid liberal who believes in a higher standard of life and a universal owrth of said lives, for ALL people.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Zoops on March 29, 2016, 05:54:25 PM
In lieu of a 10k bond? Does that mean she bonded out and they kept her? And that means her original bond amount is 10k or 100k? I've gotten a 5k bond (that I paid 500 on to get out) just for misdemeanor weed pos....

"In lieu of a bond" means that the suspect hasn't paid the bond and is therefore still in custody. And it would be a $10,000 bond that you'd have to pay $1,000 on to a bondsman to get out.

I once had a $10k bond once for Rx fraud. I thought that was excessive for telling some lies over the phone.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Indy on March 29, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
Definitely happens, and I'd be surprised if they'll be able to do anything to stop it. I mean a strip can sell for a couple hundred if you do it piecemeal and in the right jail. The jails I was at, well, not too many people in my area really get that into opiates, mostly just booze. There is dope in county but unless you're like, the rainman of spades you won't be able to support a decent habit. If you're looking at time, I would just have someone send it to you otherwise it's sooo expensive if you have any kind of tolerance. In fact if you have the benefit of a report date you can mail yourself a letter the day you report. I'm not going to go into detail about how it's done, but I wouldn't recommend the under the stamp method, even though the COs never actually bothered to check. Then again I actually didn't have anything sent in to me, I was too afraid to ask someone to do that for me because it is against the law obviously. There were a couple people I was really tempted to write to to ask though...

another interesting thing: in my state of WI, no bail bondsmen. if your bail is 10k it's cash money order or credit card with a huge ass fee tacked on. supposedly bail is less inflated because of it, and that might slightly be the case, but you still see 50k bonds for drug charges all the time.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: DeadCat on March 29, 2016, 09:06:11 PM
Well that's good to know, thanks. Never really thought about it until reading this thread for some reason. Figured County may be a long shot but I obviously don't know much about it, I'm sure every joint is different. Will be interesting, hopefully I don't find out though.

If you have to self-surrender find out what personal items you can bring in.

I was arrested in Miami and while in the holding cell met a young guy who was turning hisme;f inand he brought his own [flip-flops] but his where well made with good soles. He told me he had an 8-ball sewn in between the inner and outr sole by a frindly cobbler in Little Havana. We were all set to be getting high until at the last minute guards put us in separate blocs.

IF, if thre is dope in your county jail it ont be cheap so be sure to bring in plenty of cash to be credited to your commissary/canteen so you can pay for it. NEVER, ever, never get anything on credit in jail.

Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: DeadCat on March 29, 2016, 09:31:48 PM
"In lieu of a bond" means that the suspect hasn't paid the bond and is therefore still in custody. And it would be a $10,000 bond that you'd have to pay $1,000 on to a bondsman to get out.

I once had a $10k bond once for Rx fraud. I thought that was excessive for telling some lies over the phone.

Zoops, I think the world of you but every time you say  this I wince a little. "Telling lies over the phone" sounds a little ... self serving. Unless you just called in the bogus script and didn't act to pick it up (if that is you did then I apologize) but I'd think that would only be a conspiracy charge, if they even bothered to pursue it.

People have been scammed out of fortunes by people "telling lies on the phone" so getting some pills is certainly not the worst criminal lie on the phone but it is still fraud. In the bigger picture we've all done SOMETHING we aren't proud of so this isn't judgment. I just wonder if you owned it, it might help you feel less wronged by the law and less a "victim." In turn this MIGHT help you move up and on to better days.

As I sid, no judgement. I just want to see you get all that fully behind you.


Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Reezy on March 29, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
I remember reading about someone smuggling suboxone through letters, not under the stamp, but i guess they dissolved it in liquid and used it as a water painting their kid did.  Not sure if it was suboxone, i just remember it was orange, its been a while. Good idea lol
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: neighbor on March 29, 2016, 11:13:15 PM
good idea until the COs catch on when you keep eating all the artwork thats sent to you
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Indy on March 30, 2016, 12:59:51 AM
What, never heard of an art connoisseur?
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: dizzle on March 30, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Zoops, I think the world of you but every time you say  this I wince a little. "Telling lies over the phone" sounds a little ... self serving. Unless you just called in the bogus script and didn't act to pick it up (if you did then I apologize) but I'd think that would be a conspiracy charge, if they even bothered to pursue it.

People have been scammed out of fortunes by people "telling lies on the phone" so getting some pills is certainly not the worst criminal lie on the phone but it is still fraud. In the bigger picture we've all done OMETHING we aren't proud of so this isn't judgment. I just wonder if you owned it, it might help you feel less wronged by the law and less a "victim." In turn this MIGHT help you move up and on to better days.

s I sid, no judgement. I just want to see you get all that fully behind you.



I have to jump on this bandwagon. Zoops, I like you, I do, I enjoy your presence here, but I have to agree and had actually typed out a post the other day just like the one deadc just posted, but I didn't ahve time to finish it.


Telling lies over the phone isn't ALL you did. I mean, you called in with fake doctors license numbers, and called in fake scripts. Then you went and picked up those scripts. That is basically the DEFINITION OF PRESCRIPTION FRAUD. Don't get me wrong, I get it, and I'm not judging you, I've been there and worse, believe me I'm not turning up my nose at you. But "telling lies over the phone" is a DRASTIC understatement.


I think about "telling lies" and as it relates to my business (I'm a control valve engineer). I write programs and input functions to give out information and engineered specs to customers and the math and the equations that go into it are way way way out of the understanding of the customers, but I have to give them the right answers. As nice as it would be to lie and tell them the valve will perform better than it does, I can't do that. They'd probably never know the difference and certainly don't have the ability to prove me wrong easily, but there are consequences for lying and unfortunately you were met with one of those.


Now, I will say that the system for prescriptions in this country is fucked, it would be great if the fucking DEA would keep their noses out of it, but they get on the cases of Dr.'s that are prescribing and therefore no one wants to prescribe, so we end up having to take other avenues to get our shit, since getting them legally has been FUCKED UP BAD and is out of the question.

But again, I'm not tryig to talk down to you, but you're severely downplaying the whole thing a bit, don't ya think?
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: KurtRambus on March 30, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
My dude hit me up had his girl hmu to get like 20 subs he is in there well I had the tex so when she texted she wasn't specific  she got em but they never ended up getting to him.. I told her it was a bad idea altho she could make a white paste out of them probably and dry it on a card and tie it in with some art, etc...
I do agree with what you guys are saying... but I took it as Zoops was joking about it.. And it made me laugh inside.. not literally, because im dead inside.... and on hold with the BMV >50 min now.. but if he was belittling what he did I think ya should own up to that one man..
Although the circumstances for addicts in this country can leave many of us in dire and desperate situations, and it was damn near a victimless crime... Gotta own up to it.  I think ya know that tho.   Hope this finds you well, whomever is reading this.  Been off the board for awhile... but coming up on a year clean no Heroin..  Just bupe.  and self medicating with benzo's and Good AsFuc ''Loud'' 
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Specter on March 30, 2016, 11:15:32 PM
My boy was a CO and got caught smuggling subs and dope in....

Shit, it's still going on I believe.

Crazy backstory on why but he got caught and fired.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Guts on March 31, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
Yeah I always read it like he was being sarcastic...
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Smacky-Doodle 2.0 on March 31, 2016, 12:37:07 PM
NEVER, ever, never get anything on credit in jail.

Whatever for?  Sounds like a great idea to me.....
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Zoops on April 02, 2016, 12:22:24 AM
Zoops, I think the world of you but every time you say  this I wince a little. "Telling lies over the phone" sounds a little ... self serving. Unless you just called in the bogus script and didn't act to pick it up (if that is you did then I apologize) but I'd think that would only be a conspiracy charge, if they even bothered to pursue it.

People have been scammed out of fortunes by people "telling lies on the phone" so getting some pills is certainly not the worst criminal lie on the phone but it is still fraud. In the bigger picture we've all done SOMETHING we aren't proud of so this isn't judgment. I just wonder if you owned it, it might help you feel less wronged by the law and less a "victim." In turn this MIGHT help you move up and on to better days.

I mean, can you actually identify a victim there? And don't say it was the doctor I was impersonating, because he didn't suffer any consequences from my crime.

In a perfect world, I wouldn't have had to do that to get the drugs I wanted...

As I sid, no judgement. I just want to see you get all that fully behind you.

I appreciate you taking the time to write that, but I DO most certainly own it. Although I still think I got a pretty raw deal. If that had happened in Europe, I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the 2 years and 10 months I had to serve. After all, nobody was defrauded of any money; I paid for all my scripts. I mean it was actually, literally, telling some lies over the phone. If you were in my shoes, you'd understand why I see it that way. I don't think my view of my crime and punishment for it is holding me back from "better days" any either.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: DeadCat on April 02, 2016, 02:35:16 AM
I appreciate you taking the time to write that, but I DO most certainly own it. Although I still think I got a pretty raw deal. If that had happened in Europe, I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the 2 years and 10 months I had to serve. After all, nobody was defrauded of any money; I paid for all my scripts. I mean it was actually, literally, telling some lies over the phone. If you were in my shoes, you'd understand why I see it that way. I don't think my view of my crime and punishment for it is holding me back from "better days" any either.

OK.  But we know that all of this drug stuff we do would be treated much differently in Europe and here there is a "War" on drugs, really a war on people who take drugs and it isn't just rhetoric. We are the enemy and they want us destroyed, they just don't say that out loud.

Yes. It is massively overly punative and unfair.

Just curious, did you know what the risks were when you were doing it? A lot depends on who arrests you, what jurisdiction you are in , even the prosecutor who draws your case.



Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: Z on April 02, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
I'm sure he knew intellectually, but it doesn't mean that he was actually prepared for the consequences.
Title: Re: suboxone smuggled into new mexico jail
Post by: _Enduser on April 04, 2016, 01:17:31 AM
Maybe I'm just a crazy stupid liberal who believes in a higher standard of life and a universal owrth of said lives, for ALL people.

except when that life comes from a womb, huh pinko?

Jk jk jk
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