dopetalk
Core Topics => Drugs => GABAergics => Topic started by: Chip on March 08, 2017, 06:21:11 PM
-
Phenibut users often wonder how to dose.
I have been wondering this myself and after much research and experimentation, the golden rule is:
one day off for every gram you use ... eg.: use 2 grams on Monday ? then don't use it until Thursday.
that should keep tolerance and addiction at bay.
-
Welp broke that rule, been doing 3 days on 2 off and occasionally breaking that with 4 days on 1 day off
-
that's ok on a short runs but over months, I wouldn't recommend it.
-
FYI ... I always wondered how much Phenibut is TOO MUCH (*without a tolerance*, of course) so I took 9 grams with about 4 standard alcoholic drinks and got nauseous/sick. 7 grams may be ok but it depends on when you have eaten.
EDIT: 7 grams almost killed me on an empty stomach coupled with vigorous dancing for 6 hours !
felt good (somewhat like a moderate GHB dose but without the entactogenic euphoria) but it was an overdose - the type where you can at least lie down to feel better but I still don't recommend it.
typical high doses gabapentinoid issues with coordination present.
now I have to take 9 days off it to avoid addiction.
still feeling a hangover 12 hours later ! ugh. not good ... later: it took 19 hours to feel well.
-
Boohoo. We're you able to sleep and not see satanic writing on the wall? :o
-
Boohoo. We're you able to sleep and not see satanic writing on the wall? :o
yeah, you're experience of Phenibut withdrawal was shocking and it made me even more determined to keep my use heavily constrained.
I use it mainly for sleeping and enjoy the memorable vivid dreaming state as it puts me into deep REM sleep much like GHB/GBL etc. does and makes me feel loose and comfortable ... these are doses at 1 gram and under.
If anyone has an enduring problem with addiction then i advise them to possibly avoid this product BUT it does have medicinal and nootropic value at lower dosages.
the other main thing you should keep in mind is that it takes between 2-3 hours to kick in and that although it's half life is only 5.3 hours after that, it feels more like 12 hours.
-
Yeah, it really does feel like it's at least half a day on the half-life. You know I wouldn't mind trying it again at least if I knew I was going to be getting laid later on in the day, makes sex fantastic...but the idea of the hangovers or possibly getting strung out on it again. Ugh, no thanks.
-
How do you obtain it? I've gotten it in the hospital IV'd into my Saline bag and it was wonderful. Not asking for specifics, just as prescription or ordered as RC type deal or what?
-
You've got it in the hospital? Are you from Russia? Typically in most places its purely an OTC supplement that you can get online or at those work out supplement shops. The only place I've heard of it being prescribed as a pharmaceutical for anxiety is Russia. Even then you don't need a prescription for it really.
-
Florida in 2010... I went into the hospital throwing up and throwing up some more and finally seemed to be puking blood. I didn't admit to being a drug user and just told them I didn't know what was wrong (I was in withdraws but had naive family with me). I told them I had been throwing up for weeks and could no longer keep water down. They told me they were going to give it to me but couldn't inject it into my pic line because it would burn up my veins, so they shot it into my Saline drip. It was quite wonderful. My nausea went away, I fell asleep for the first time in well over a week and thats that. I've never heard of it since then.. It was kind of a sketchy brand spanking new hospital in the boonies. I also didn't see that particular "orderly" again now that I'm thinking about it. What the fuck.. Now you got me all wacked out from asking me?! hahaha!!
-
Florida in 2010... I went into the hospital throwing up and throwing up some more and finally seemed to be puking blood. I didn't admit to being a drug user and just told them I didn't know what was wrong (I was in withdraws but had naive family with me). I told them I had been throwing up for weeks and could no longer keep water down. They told me they were going to give it to me but couldn't inject it into my pic line because it would burn up my veins, so they shot it into my Saline drip. It was quite wonderful. My nausea went away, I fell asleep for the first time in well over a week and thats that. I've never heard of it since then.. It was kind of a sketchy brand spanking new hospital in the boonies. I also didn't see that particular "orderly" again now that I'm thinking about it. What the fuck.. Now you got me all wacked out from asking me?! hahaha!!
Sounds like "Phenergan" 'cause that shit definitely burns when IV'd and it'll knock you out good and it's used for nausea. Every time I've had it IV'd in the hospital, they'll bring in a huge 10 ml syringe and tell me that only 1 ml of it is Phenergan and the rest is saline solution because it burns when injected so bad that they have to dilute it and flush it. And it STILL burns.
-
Thank you!!! I've been reading too much.. I twas wrong :)
-
Oh yeah I forgot about Phenergan, I've had it plenty of times. I guess my nurses where good about diluting it as it never burned too bad, except once. Nurse had just got back from vacation and gave it to me undiluted. It blew out my vein completely it was so harsh. It felt like someone jammed a little match into my veins. I think he swiped my diliudid dose too next shif the, was supposed to get 3mg IV and it just tasted like saline and did nothing for my pain and I didn't feel anything which at that time it should have put me in nodding territory. He also didn't prep the shot from its ampoule in front of me which all the other nurses did.
-
Chipper
Dont know if you remember that vid
I posted of me fucked up on phenibut
I had only did about a gram with no tollerance
I think the thread is titled
Phenibut is no joke
I took the Vid down
But I was only on about a gram
I know that when you order the powder
The different brands come with different size spoons
500 mgs of that is a decent dose
There are 2 places in the USA that I order from
PC and LM
I just ordered some a few weeks ago
From another site
Came in 250 mg capsules
Shit was weak as fuck
Can eat about 4 grams and nothing.
So the strength of the brands differs
LM has the strongest
I dont want to post the web site nanes its not illegal
So I don't know the rules on that
If you want to know
PM me and I will let you know
As strong as that shit is I really find it hard to belive its legal
Guess the college students havent found out about it yet.
Phenergan you can get prescribed
They make a mix of it with codeine
Definitely good for a shit stomach
-
We have never talked about this substance, but don't try to use pm to get around solicitation rules. I'm not going to hunt people down over phenibut, but just a heads up. I feel like knowing good and bad sources for not illegal drugs is good harm reduction.
-
So I recently found out the OTC sleep supplement my naturopathic doc prescribed me has phenibut in it. I'm a bit pissed since I've been so careful to avoid any type of benzo/Gaba agonist dependence. It's got melatonin and trytophan in it too, but its 650mg of phenibut per pill. I've been taking it every night, with breaks now and then anywhere from a day or two to a week or more, and only at bedtime. But now that I've been tapering down off opioids I really need it to get good sleep.
Can you guys who have experience w it suggest how often and how long I need to take breaks from it, in order to keep my GABA receptors in good shape and avoid dependence/withdrawal? I need a fucking benzo-type monkey on my back like I need lung cancer.
-
The general rule of thumb that worked for me is, apart from the odd fortnightly (maybe even weekly) mega dose (up to 7 grams), one gram every second day will keep you out of trouble (500 mg a day is considered a non-addictive dose).
Never take high doses for days at a time.