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Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« on: July 21, 2015, 03:56:12 AM »
NZ'ers are notorious for this ... thought it was interesting > http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?52-Codeine-Homebake
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 07:17:06 AM »
That first "recipe" is completely wrong in that it states the products comprise a significant amount of "3-O-acetylmorphine." There is no acetylation step in the procedure, it's just an O-demethylation of codeine to provide morphine.

But I'm sure some clever Kiwi has figured how to make H directly from codeine in one pot (obviously several steps).

It's also funny to see so much "swim' being slung around!


That thread over there is 10 years old!
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 10:20:14 PM »
No there's no simple 1 pot synth unfortunately.....not much codeine homebake gets done over here anymore due to cheaper morphine availablity (compared to the 90's, 2000ish) and pyridine has been locked down so tight that we cant get it very often at all.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 04:56:28 AM »
Do you guys get dhc? Dhc to dhm is supposedly a much easier cook... one step process with gaa in hbr or something... it's out there.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 05:38:09 AM »
I asked the guys on here about exactly that but its either bullshit or not that easy. It originated from one of Borohydride's posts on the Phile.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 06:49:16 AM »
I think the only hard part is dealing with the acid... and it's funes... and the reaction takes literally like a day unless it's in some pressurized contraption. I've read of someone doing it in some type of paint mixer or sprayer somehow. It was all detailed by a guy named beaker I think it was... it was on a drug forum that started with a "z". I can't think of the name right now... it used to come up on Google pretty easily when searching for dhm... I think it might be dead. Anyways, it's definitely technically harder than an aa cook but if you can do c to m I think it would be within your skill level... everything is easily available.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2016, 12:24:00 PM »
It was all detailed by a guy named beaker I think it was... it was on a drug forum that started with a "z". I can't think of the name right now... it used to come up on Google pretty easily when searching for dhm... I think it might be dead. Anyways, it's definitely technically harder than an aa cook but if you can do c to m I think it would be within your skill level... everything is easily available.
I asked the guys on here about exactly that but its either bullshit or not that easy. It originated from one of Borohydride's posts on the Phile.

lol - 'Beaker' is a pseudonym Boro used on some other dope and chem sites.

I've never seen it done but my understanding is that the codeine & pyridine route works if you're competent. Pyridine which is really stinky tho, hard to find and generally considered suspicious. I wouldn't fuck with it.

Isn't it a 'de-methylation' that turns codeine to morphine? I believe this is what russian krok cooks are doing - de-methylating codeine to morphine?

So maybe instead of pyridine, the C could be freebased, isolated and then de-methylated or whatever with RP/I and something a little cleaner than gasoline, cleaned up and then acetylated.

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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2016, 01:28:39 PM »
Hmmm... that's weird, I didn't know that. Do you remember the forum I'm talking about? For the life of me I can't remember the name... it was like zenith or zephyr or something with a z. He had a pretty detailed write up on there. And it was written in a kitchen cook format... not research paper style. He also supposedly cooked up some desomorphine the right way and had some down and out junkies test it for him...

The dhc to dhm cook is supposed to be easier than c to m. It doesn't require pyridine. Dhc to dhm doesn't require breaking whatever bond that's tough to break going from c to m. It's a one pot cook requiring hydrobromic acid and glacial acetic acid. Everything is easily obtained but the cool itself takes some skill.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2016, 04:27:47 PM »
DHC to DHM is NOT that easy. Trust me. It's not just HBr Fumes, there's so much to it. It has to be in a pressurized vessel, it has to be reacted over like 36-48 hours, it's a serious ordeal. Hot Hydrobromic acid / Glacial Acetic Acid, in a pressurized environment is fucking serious business. Also, point of fact, it's NOT hydrobormic acid AND GAA, it's Hydrobromic Acid IN GAA. There's a large difference there. Since Hydrobromic can't exist over like 55% purity, you end up with 45% water. And GAA means WATERLESS, so the HBr has to be formed IN the GAA. It's hardly easy...

Boro had a way of making terribly dangerous things sound like baking a pie.


I'm ALL over the DHC to DHM thing, and while I was able to do it successfully, and then turn it to DiHydroHeroin (3,6 Diacetyl Dihydromorphine), it was a serious PITA and not something someone worth it as I was never able to find a source of DHC by the kilo. Now, IF someone had that, the equation would change considerably.



And Esoteric, it's demethylated in the 3 position, but then there's nothing left to acetylate in the 6 position! I think the Russian cooks are doing a shitty version of a pseudoephed to meth, though I'm not sure how their actually doing the demethylation in it, but they're reducing that 6 alcohol, for sure...
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2016, 05:42:17 PM »
I was just saying that it's supposed to be easier than c to m... or at least less steps. And the chemicals are all easily obtainable. Didn't mean to make it sound like any kitchen chemist could do it.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2016, 06:11:55 PM »
And Esoteric, it's demethylated in the 3 position, but then there's nothing left to acetylate in the 6 position! I think the Russian cooks are doing a shitty version of a pseudoephed to meth, though I'm not sure how their actually doing the demethylation in it, but they're reducing that 6 alcohol, for sure...

This makes sense thx.

Hey Chipper, maybe we could have a chem-draw mod?
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2016, 06:24:41 PM »
EA, I searched but could not find but will ask Support later.

we have a test system so if anyone has the skills then I can give them a vanilla system to work with.

it sounds awfully difficult though.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2016, 06:43:21 PM »
I'd love a chemdraw mod. I wonder if we could incorporate something by way of pushing the work over to chemicalize or whatever and porting it in, idk if that makes sense but I think you know what I mean. Though they'd probably lhave to give us access to their server, and there's a fat chance of that happening.
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Re: Codeine Homebake (from Opiophile)
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 06:24:17 AM »
...I'm ALL over the DHC to DHM thing, and while I was able to do it successfully, and then turn it to DiHydroHeroin (3,6 Diacetyl Dihydromorphine)...

You did mention in another thread somewhere that you still had some of your notes on the formation of some of those Morphine-type esters - I would love to be able to go over some of them some time, if that's possible. :)
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